Yeah thats like saying "Maxx C is bad because its dead against stun and Floo", like some decks being able to not get killed by a handtrap doesnt make it acceptable in the slightest
Crossout didn't do well in the TCG because maxx c is banned. In the ocg and master duel crossout is necessary because of maxx c. Dire seemed to forget about that
Its insane to me that one of the reasons people say its bad to main deck is because its a dead card going first. I guess dark ruler, evenly, and even kaijus/lava golem have never been in people's main deck in the history of competitive yugioh.
Also to add onto the insanity of Fuwalos is that the card isn't a hard once per turn so the card can stack onto itself. The restriction is that you can only activate one other Multcharmy card, not you can only activate one Fuwalos, so if you have two Fuwalos in your hand, you can activate both and draw 2 cards for every deck/extra deck summon your opponent does
let's not forget. TCG people thought the first mulcharmy card was ass but in the very next tournament where it was legal showed just how good it was despite it being 80% weaker than regular max "C" getting just 2 draws was enough to win or push through the opponents board. and if that card shaked the meta this one will crush it.
Dude, im a complete idiot when it comes to competitive yugioh, and even i know this card is. B R O K E N as fuck. I cant believe so many people are down playing this card, lol.
For those out there who are like “yeah but you can play around it and give your opponent a draw 1 maybe a draw 2”, do you realize how many decks would kill for a draw 1? Don’t get me wrong, I don’t think for a second this card is as broken as Maxx C, but like… I would never want to give my opponent any draws if I don’t have to and I already know what deck they’re playing and how much non engine it has. Like… this card only gets more broken if the deck you play already plays so much non engine.
The going-1st-player usually ends on 10-15 cards after his turn in his hand and field. But when the player going second draws 1 additional card it becomes broken?
Like you’re telling me the absolute worst this card could ever be is an upstart that forces my opponent to end on 0-1 interrupts? Yeah dude that’s still the best card in my deck
@@Jackinthebox1719 it also stops the person going first from extending or making interruptions. This is severely underplaying the actual impact it has in the game.
@@OlgaZuccati the thing is, going second sucks. It sucks really really hard. IMO going second cards nearly can’t be broken enough. Mulchummy is not perfect, but it helps the player going second.
Even Purulia sees some play and that’s generally worse than this card. Every card that comes out there’s always the people who think it’s overrated just for the sake of it. Stop
In prerelease in the UK, it sold out super quick at £100 ($131), I saw a store refresh their stock at £120 ($158) and sell out too. 100% this card is going to exist either main deck or mandatory side pretty much with no exceptions.
Fuwalos reads as if it was designed by a guy who thought the only issue with Maxx C was that it could be used after going 1st. It still has the major issue of if someone uses this against you, you either have to push on through and let your opponent draw into their whole deck (including more HT) which means they'll just play right through your board with board breakers. The other option is end on a smaller end board to try make sure they draw as little as possible but then they'll simply steamroll over your tiny end board with minimal effort. It's still the exact same problem as Maxx C but slightly weaker but it's still Maxx C at the end of the day (it also can be used multiple times in 1 turn to turn into a 2 draw).
Its just fundamentally a weaker version of maxx c. Ofc it slaughters decks that use ed cards as extenders, but that isn't unhealthy imo. Neither is punishing summoning from deck, which is also a very strong mechanic that deserves a counter. I probably would have printed a lancea like eff myself, but eh. A lot of decks can also play under it reasonable well.
@@shawnjavery nah I disagree there, if it had the DRNM clause "you can't kill me this turn" the card would be fine in my eyes, but even something like strikers special summons from the ED like twice, giving the opp a plus two when they can kill you that turn is crazy, second of all, it being able to be used twice is fucking bullshit, I shouldn't need two outs every time
It is a worse designed card than Maxx C because it just feels infinitely worse on both ends. If you go first, it is a dead card. If you go second and don't get it in your opening hand, it is a dead card. If you go first and your opponent plays it, you feel terrible and essentially got highrolled for 0 effort (but at least a lot of decks can play around it to some degree). In most games will just feel terrible for both parties and when it is played you don't feel outplayed or interacted with you just feel cheated and outlucked. It is insulting as a design. At least Maxx C is almost always a relevant for both players.
I think release phantazmay is a really good parallel to this card being released at this point in time. Basically every deck was improved by having it at least in the side deck if not main depending on the format. I remember being so irritated during that period of time that for like a year I was priced out of such a just generally good card where you could play without it but the deck was just objectively worse.
Even Purulia feels a bit too strong sometimes, frankly. I’ve been maining it in Tenpai and it often feels more busted than shifter. If your opponent gives you more than 1 draw your win rate goes up drastically. I think it has way more generic coverage than people give it credit for. It rarely runs into decks that draw you 1 or less.
Fuwaros should have had an effect like dogwood where if you didnt draw any cards you like half your hand or something, otherwise is just a braindead card that you throw is sp.
10:00 angwitch - horse - pop horse send sheep + goblin + mace - take mace add fusion - fusion summon conqueror (first draw) - send other conqueror + gattic + combined - gattic summon add sheep - add and activate field spell - banish fusion add bone party pop gattic - field summon goblin - goblin send 2 names and in the end you can destroy sheep from hand with the party to add dragon (or mace, if you don't play dragon) and trigger sheep on gy, endboard is dragon + conqueror + combined + fieldspell + any spell/trap of your choosing giving a single draw, 2 if you started with dark blade. Now think about this deck playing around maxx c... Yeah, that's a lot different
@@renaldyhaen you can copy paste the spreadsheets onto a board, but that doesn't really mean you can play well if it goes to turn 3 or 5, mad respect to the people who main a singular deck, they probably have so much experience with playing around specific game states that goes beyond, step 1: do combo
Giving a little update: if you use gattic to add a bone party that you sent with creation you can pop gattic to add sheep with it before bringing back goblin (using the fusion destroying the sheep you added), so you can end on 2 spell/traps, you wouldn't have a name in hand to recover a Nibiru but seems worth it
I can't believe he had to make a video just to explain why maxx c is good. Also important point made at 12:00 about how the difference btwn mulcharmy's make them uniquely shitty compared to maxx c.
"This card makes going second finally broken" Oh god. It means that now konamy is gonna print cards that let you play under fowaross, MEANING going first is gonna become even more strong in the following years...
This can unironically be a good strategy depending on your deck! For example, the malice deck in the OCG only has a single in-archetype search (ransom search field spell) and it's not usually mandatory for your combo. Main decking droll at 3 is very solid for this deck for this reason, if you get maxx c or fuwaross'd you instantly droll after first draw and you're probably fine.
@@lucasg7720 yeah 100% I think certain decks HAVE to droll themselves for this shit, which I hate to see, but it is intresting counterplay, Imagine Pendulum tho
@@funz6491as an infernoble player I'll often droll myself before even normal summoning or my opponent activating a maxx c/mulcharmy. rota/ any other searcher resolves and I droll myself because genuinely the deck does not care if it's drolled and so I'm not gonna risk my opponent even being able to cycle 1 card
I think it will eventually fade out of main decks because people will get sick bricking on it but it will be mandatory in the side. Some exceptions are Flunder because of Advent, Snake Eyes because of Witch/Deception, and obviously Tenpai and other blind second decks.
Tbh this is why I think mimighoul is a solid pick next format. You literally give them a monster to hard shut off mulcharmies (so they have to shotgun them or risk getting punished), you main talents/trust to help deal with such issues, you play a couple silly floodgates that are backup gameplans when your lines through the charmies are mediocre, and the conservative mimighoul lines usually dont draw the opponent too many cards for fuwalos.
@@scorpioncox8978 i mean.... you just give them a ghoul first so they cant activate it. And sure there will be hands where you cannot play around it and you have to start maker but you either get dragon to get trap/fieldspell (1 draw) or you get fiend into get dragon into xyz to get trap/fieldspell (2 draws) before you just set your backrow use your handtraps to get through the opponent turn.
player will shotgun mulchummy in the draw phase anyway, it's bad to hold it since talent exist and no reason to keep it until your turn unless you know they play lab
@@thanatosxmesiah thats a fair point, though if they do that and they have trap/dragon/fieldspell in hand they can just pass usually without giving any draws. However I will say the hand summon charmie is insanely strong against ghoul (and the new trap that cuts off earth effects) though im not sure how many people will play it next metagame.
I'd argue this thing is better than maxx c cuz it has 2 layers of protections protecting the user from being decked out (draws only on some ss and shuffles cards to deck during end phase)
For sake of argument, I'll argue that Fuwalos isn't as good as it's being hyped to be. This does not mean it's a bad card, it's still broken. It can be worked around by some decks by searching then summoning from hand or grave. But then it runs into the other Mulcharmy, or the potential next one. That being said, most decks don't have the option to modulate where they're summoning from.
While summoning from hand and graveyard does avoid the better mulcharmy, what do actually do with the material? You're still going to summon with that material and give your opponent more draws. So unless you can summon a boss monster from Hand or GY, you're just saying "Just play around Maxx C" by skipping your turn and proceeding to get OTKed.
It’s a good card but none of them are main deck staples. In my experience playing in the OCG they’re much better played in the side deck and selected based upon what deck you are up against. None of them are generically good against every deck you could face.
@@AristotleOfGreeceIn the TCG, we have less viable deck choices due the banlist. So it's going to be better against most of the good decks we have access to and play here.
±3 open disruptions are an ideal number for me. This is the sweet spot because if the player can make a good decision and use their skill, this will be enough to slow down or stop the opponent. I don't think it is skillful if you have 6 disruptions and your opponent has 6 cards. It is just either "Yes turbo" or your opponent luckily draw the unsearchable counter cards to break your boards. Yes, some "good decks" can make crazy boards under 3 disruptions, but I think it better to "adjust" those decks instead. Don't forget there are a lot of rogue decks that cannot play optimally under 3 disruptions too. Also, don't forget in handtraps heavy format, the players should have handtraps too.
Listening both sides of the argument makes me conclude it completely ruins any opening hand when going first, but is so good when reacting to your opponents turn you actually just pass without playing anything if you draw it going first.
5 tears ago it might have been ok, but now the individual power of single cards makes it where you can't give your opponent the plus 1 without all guaranteed losing. Just play a match against tenpai and have them resolve it once and they'll understand
The fact the OCG who have a better version of this card in Maxx C are running this card at 3 means it will absolutely be meta warping. Ash blossom can also be played around, but it’s still a 3 of in 95% of all deck lists.
Fun fact the card is also absolutely perfect in raidraptors since it's a level 4 winged beast even if you're going first with it you can use swallows cowrie to replace it for one of your engine cards
Idk how anyone could be so stupid to argue that Fuwalos is a bad card. At absolutely worst its a card you will want to side in 100% of the time you go second with any deck in yu gi oh against 99.98% of all yu gi oh decks.
The other thing about new maxx-c-lite is the fact you can play the cards you draw so any ht's can just be used and more importantly if you are playing a deck with garnets you don't wanna draw into it lets you reshuffle randomly so you only have 6 cards...thats still pretty strong because now the garnets can be even more of a non-factor. The fact that this maxxc and the other mulcharmy is being played in the ocg speaks volumes. At this point the game doesn't need to go down 2 steps it needs to go down like 3 flights of stairs.
It's a buff to decks that don't summon from the main. Unfortunately, hard to avoid the extra, but there are decks that primarily play on opponents turn.
card is omega broken, yeah its worse maxx c, but not by that much. obviusly u would rather play against this than the earth insect but it still has the most problematic things about maxx, the fact that u still have 2 options, pass on nothing and lose, or combo and still lose to a 15 card hand. i would be shocked if this card didnt warp the whole meta around itself like maxx c
as Hardleg Gaming once put it (his 16 arguments debunking Maxx "c" video - 90k views I believe) - "you either have the most broken trap in the game (Vanity's) or the most broken draw spell in the game (Pot of Greed), like why create this cards when u have fucking Evenly at 3 and SEARCHABLE off Thrust, hate it man, I really do, hope Hardleg keeps making videos tho (as he and we all hate the bug)
It will wrap the meta around it, but it's not the same as maxx c. The problem with maxx c isn't that it's centralizing, it's that despite being 95% playrate, it still autowins half the games it appears in. You can't really build around Maxx C. You just hope to draw ash or called by. Fuwalos on the other hand will definitely warp the viability of decks in the meta towards those that can build boards with minimum extra deck span, but tbh that's probably for the best. People will need to focus on routes that minimize what is currently the dominant strategy. Unlike Maxx C though, you actually have room to build around it.
@@JumbaJumby From the data in Master Duel world. Maxx "C" increase only 10% win. Go 2nd without Maxx "C" ---> with Maxx "C" = 37% --> 47% Go 1st without Maxx "C" ----> With Maxx "C" = 59.8% ---> 62.5% . Maxx "C" can only increase the chance by 10% at best. Fuwalos should be lower than that. Also, we can see how strong going 1st by looking the winrate, even without Maxx "C" involved. There should be something meaningful to balance the going 1st in YGO. And I think Fowallos is good for this. I don't think the players have the right to complain about Fuwalos, when going 1st already too strong in this game.
Ocg: Prints copies 4-6 of Maxx C Ocg: That's a little too much Maxx C, let's limit it to 5 copies per deck that should be fine. Tcg: ITS THE FUCKING DEVIL
No Multcharmy that draws off summons of tokens, from GY, banishment, backrow or normal summons from anywhere but hand yet? (normal summons from Extra Deck coming soon to counter Fuwalos)
Why are people arguing about how it’s not as good as Maxxx C? Even if it’s half as good as Maxx C it’d be be busted as fuck. In what world is a card that’s “only useful going second” bad? Statistically you’ll be going second roughly half the time when you play.
Exactly , the worst thing about maxx c was facing it going first and basically skipping your turn and insta losing the game , that's the exact same effect they gave this .
Hand traps that punish drawing cards like "every time your opponent draws a card, inflict x ammount of damage" or "everytime your opponent draws a card, draw a card" might be the future of Yu-Gi-Oh's card design... ...or maybe not
It's a more balanced Maxx C but it's still really good. Card advantage is crazy. Still is kinda bricky if you play it in main since you will add 3 garnets to your deck the moment you start playing it. I would only play it in side though. Also, slower backrow heavy or SS from GY or banish decks could see a resurgence.
fuwaross is better max c because if you think about it, you cant actually do the funny thing of decking out your opponent. its logistically impossible sadly.
'crossout is bad' hey dire Crossout now has a target to keep the other problem cards 'in check' so is it really as bad as you'd think? Like crossout seems bad until you realize that it helps you deck thin when you don't need that 3rd ht you wouldn't wanna draw.
These days I don’t care if main decks are too expensive, I can play something rogue whatever with a ton of hand traps and get by, but thanks to this that’s impossible cause now there’s another mandatory hand trap to play. Dire is kind of a moron.
Snake eye is probs the best when playing around that card because they can end on 5 disruption and only give your opponent 3 cards (which is still insane) or end on I:P with temple and oak into S:P + follow up and only give them 1 draw.
Can't wait to see Mulcharmy and that other card just be used with Maxx C in Master Duel cause Konami's will just forever think Maxx C is a Necessary Evil making it a Draw your Entire Deck unless you just Skip Turn.
It’s to the point where the next deck I consider playing is one that can realistically combo while only giving 1-2 draws to the opponent (shout out Drytron)
Until I could afford Fuwaross, I'm thinking of playing Salamangreat with maining Droll. Salad can play through Droll and with playing playsets of Ash and Droll (and possibly 1 Called By), it may give a better chance of playing
As someone who plays memento in MD: when I have no counter to maxx c I just yolo (I'll summon way more than 5x btw to do the full combo) and pray that my opponent gets intimidated by Combined Creation and scoops/get bored by the huge ass combo and scoops/somehow ends with a bricked hand and scoops lol
It’s an amazing card, especially since we don’t have MaxC. However, it’s definitely NOT MaxC. People keep saying it basically is but it’s not. MaxC is so much better, for many reasons. The first thing to note is that Fuwalos is ONLY good turn one, AND ONLY if you’re NOT the turn player. It is useless past that point. It will feel really bad as your 6th draw or in your hand and going first. And you can’t compare this to other hand traps. Other hand traps can be used later, some even right away to interrupt your opponent. Fuwalos is actually just pure dead weight after turn 1. MaxC can be used at ANY point in the duel and can be used even if you went first, making your end board even crazier. The next reason, is that it can be played around by a fair amount of other decks, which btw runick WF can actually play around it pretty well by just using runick cards and turning Fuwalos into a upstart goblin. Another reason is that it actually does prevent you from drawing a ridiculous amount, which yeah isn’t that relevant most of the time.
Good to see someone understands yugioh 😂 so many bad players are in the yugioh community. However the fact it's a going second card is key! Regardless players will run it at 3
Dire has to be farming engagement, because wow...what an inflammatory take. To say that you're a bad player for playing Maxx C lite is just stupid. Not even saying it's an overhyped card like Crossout, but flat out saying it's garbage is just objectively wrong as well. When the OCG is playing this card at 3 in the main in a format WITH Maxx C, then you know this card is cracked. I also like how Dire's arguement for playing around it is the same people have for Maxx C. Just don't summon forhead lol Dire smoking premium bro, they definitely tryna lower the price lol
It's only *_extremely_* good going second. If you draw it going first or on turn three onward where you already have an established board it does absolutely nothing. Granted Maxx c is similar in that it gets worse in most of those exact scenarios, but if you draw it going first you still get to activate it on your opponent's turn.
arguing with dire is top 3 biggest waste of time moments, recently she posted that singles sellers are at fault for card prices and not konami, and now we need to explain why maxx c is a strong card and everyone in ocg has been running it at 3 it has got to be just trollposting and farming reactions methinks actually brilliant
This just puts into perspective how broken Maxx C is again I feel like. Everything everyone is hyping about Fuwalos, Maxx C does and it does it better.
I still think that Fuwa is still not worth maindecking unless you're Tenpai (or any blind second) or can generate value off it being a dead card in your hand.
My biggest issue is that this card "will" force you to make a weaker board and then your opponent will simply kill you because every Yu-Gi-Oh deck now can drop 12000 damage at a drop of a hat. Personally, I think the major issue is decks power output more than this card but of course we already know this. Better would be how do you deal with that.
it is a broken card. I do think it is slightly overhyped it is a really good card but it isn't like you just pass when it is dropped on you. it is something that if you want to compete at the highest level you will need and that is about it. it is a good card that if it was affordable it would be at near 100% play rate if not 100% play rate
Oh no! I got hit by Fuwalos! Anyway, normal sumon robina. This is such a problem for yugioh man. The only decks that don't care about this card is Floo, stun decks and I guess branded if they open a nadir servant, and at that point their board is much weaker.
It is slightly easier to play around than maxx "c" The ceiling is slightly lower than maxx "c" because the player drawing will end on fewer cards if the player going first full combos (though this is arguably better sometimes in case you draw too many things you wanted to summon from deck with maxx "c") It is a lot worse against slightly more decks like voiceless voice But largely, this is maxx "c" two that's only for the player going 2nd. Most of the arguments people are making for why this "isn't that good" would also apply to maxx "c" like "if the opponent is on floowandereeze or stun it's just a dead card that does nothing" or "you can just choose to not special summon so much" and then end on a board of 1 interraction and 1 handtrap against tenpai I really like the idea of boosting the power the player going 2nd has. I think it is way too frustrating to stare down a full power yubel board and not draw your board breaker or draw too many board breakers and not enough engine. But I genuinely don't think these lingering floodgates like shifter or absolutely insane draw cards like mulcharmy or maxx "c" are the way to do it. I think they should just start making more decks that can play while the opponent going first is playing because that's a lot more fun and engaging than putting in 15 non engine cards and hoping you draw them or praying you get enough board breakers
R-ace is the deck that loses and beats the mulcharmy cards. They can more or less take or leave summoning from hand or deck depending on how they open. Also one of few archetypes that you do use fuwaross when you go first against them lmao
For normal Lab / unchained Lab, i would say fuwalos is good against it, but for the trap heavy/math lab, i would say its not great cause its usually a +1/2 at best and useless at worst cause set 5 pass
Konami re-released Maxx C for a reason, Maxx C is legal on MD and OCG por a reason… they clearly intend for this card to break the game a part and fuck everything up
Diet Maxx C is definitely a good card. The fact that SOME decks can play around it doesn't make it bad
Yeah thats like saying "Maxx C is bad because its dead against stun and Floo", like some decks being able to not get killed by a handtrap doesnt make it acceptable in the slightest
Crossout didn't do well in the TCG because maxx c is banned. In the ocg and master duel crossout is necessary because of maxx c. Dire seemed to forget about that
A lot of the people popular or known in the yugi space really forget context on why things played out the way they did at the time.
There's a reason Crossout is limited in the OCG
@@Shrimp4Gura same with master duel
@@Lightstation_ yep, but we get Called By limited in the TCG while the OCG had it at 2
the fact that u can crossout for crossout. negating the oponent crossout its nuts
Its insane to me that one of the reasons people say its bad to main deck is because its a dead card going first. I guess dark ruler, evenly, and even kaijus/lava golem have never been in people's main deck in the history of competitive yugioh.
Also to add onto the insanity of Fuwalos is that the card isn't a hard once per turn so the card can stack onto itself. The restriction is that you can only activate one other Multcharmy card, not you can only activate one Fuwalos, so if you have two Fuwalos in your hand, you can activate both and draw 2 cards for every deck/extra deck summon your opponent does
*gets decked out turn 1
You can't get decked out with mulcharmies. You have to return cards from hand to deck during end phase
@@easyygo3008But the effect itself will deck you out before the end phase
This is how I find out that Dire edits for Nuxtaku? Man, I feel for her.
Why? They make bank.
Nux is a...goofy goober @@mrbubbles6468
@@mrbubbles6468 Good money or not, Nux just sucks as an individual
@@DarkusFireBlaze3582 How?
ew gross, but i mean, gotta get the work where it exists :/
let's not forget. TCG people thought the first mulcharmy card was ass but in the very next tournament where it was legal showed just how good it was despite it being 80% weaker than regular max "C" getting just 2 draws was enough to win or push through the opponents board. and if that card shaked the meta this one will crush it.
This speaks to how insanely broken Maxx c is btw
Dude, im a complete idiot when it comes to competitive yugioh, and even i know this card is. B R O K E N as fuck. I cant believe so many people are down playing this card, lol.
You’ll never go broke underestimating people’s stupidity
They are trying to convince theirselves that isn't necessary and they are not at a disvantage
For those out there who are like “yeah but you can play around it and give your opponent a draw 1 maybe a draw 2”, do you realize how many decks would kill for a draw 1?
Don’t get me wrong, I don’t think for a second this card is as broken as Maxx C, but like… I would never want to give my opponent any draws if I don’t have to and I already know what deck they’re playing and how much non engine it has. Like… this card only gets more broken if the deck you play already plays so much non engine.
The going-1st-player usually ends on 10-15 cards after his turn in his hand and field. But when the player going second draws 1 additional card it becomes broken?
Like you’re telling me the absolute worst this card could ever be is an upstart that forces my opponent to end on 0-1 interrupts? Yeah dude that’s still the best card in my deck
@@Jackinthebox1719 it also stops the person going first from extending or making interruptions. This is severely underplaying the actual impact it has in the game.
@OlgaZuccati just keep summoning take the "max c" challenge
@@OlgaZuccati the thing is, going second sucks. It sucks really really hard. IMO going second cards nearly can’t be broken enough. Mulchummy is not perfect, but it helps the player going second.
Even Purulia sees some play and that’s generally worse than this card. Every card that comes out there’s always the people who think it’s overrated just for the sake of it. Stop
In prerelease in the UK, it sold out super quick at £100 ($131), I saw a store refresh their stock at £120 ($158) and sell out too.
100% this card is going to exist either main deck or mandatory side pretty much with no exceptions.
Fuwalos reads as if it was designed by a guy who thought the only issue with Maxx C was that it could be used after going 1st.
It still has the major issue of if someone uses this against you, you either have to push on through and let your opponent draw into their whole deck (including more HT) which means they'll just play right through your board with board breakers. The other option is end on a smaller end board to try make sure they draw as little as possible but then they'll simply steamroll over your tiny end board with minimal effort.
It's still the exact same problem as Maxx C but slightly weaker but it's still Maxx C at the end of the day (it also can be used multiple times in 1 turn to turn into a 2 draw).
Its just fundamentally a weaker version of maxx c. Ofc it slaughters decks that use ed cards as extenders, but that isn't unhealthy imo. Neither is punishing summoning from deck, which is also a very strong mechanic that deserves a counter. I probably would have printed a lancea like eff myself, but eh.
A lot of decks can also play under it reasonable well.
I personally feel that if they had split the extra deck and main deck it would have been fine
@@shawnjavery nah I disagree there, if it had the DRNM clause "you can't kill me this turn" the card would be fine in my eyes, but even something like strikers special summons from the ED like twice, giving the opp a plus two when they can kill you that turn is crazy, second of all, it being able to be used twice is fucking bullshit, I shouldn't need two outs every time
@@funz6491Those are changes actually perfect ngl
It is a worse designed card than Maxx C because it just feels infinitely worse on both ends. If you go first, it is a dead card. If you go second and don't get it in your opening hand, it is a dead card. If you go first and your opponent plays it, you feel terrible and essentially got highrolled for 0 effort (but at least a lot of decks can play around it to some degree).
In most games will just feel terrible for both parties and when it is played you don't feel outplayed or interacted with you just feel cheated and outlucked.
It is insulting as a design. At least Maxx C is almost always a relevant for both players.
I think release phantazmay is a really good parallel to this card being released at this point in time. Basically every deck was improved by having it at least in the side deck if not main depending on the format. I remember being so irritated during that period of time that for like a year I was priced out of such a just generally good card where you could play without it but the deck was just objectively worse.
If you think about it hard enough, Drytron could get away with not summoning from deck or even extra. Shout out to my boys DAD and Nids.
Gotta pray you open well and hope opponent doesn't open breakers
And that's the matchup where they side it out in
let alone the fact that the shuffling back into the deck can even be a benefit if you opened some bricks, you can put those back.
It’s random though
It is random, what if it shuffle your starter and keep your brick?
If you keep your brick then its just like maxxC
Even Purulia feels a bit too strong sometimes, frankly. I’ve been maining it in Tenpai and it often feels more busted than shifter. If your opponent gives you more than 1 draw your win rate goes up drastically. I think it has way more generic coverage than people give it credit for. It rarely runs into decks that draw you 1 or less.
Fuwaros should have had an effect like dogwood where if you didnt draw any cards you like half your hand or something, otherwise is just a braindead card that you throw is sp.
10:00 angwitch - horse - pop horse send sheep + goblin + mace - take mace add fusion - fusion summon conqueror (first draw) - send other conqueror + gattic + combined - gattic summon add sheep - add and activate field spell - banish fusion add bone party pop gattic - field summon goblin - goblin send 2 names and in the end you can destroy sheep from hand with the party to add dragon (or mace, if you don't play dragon) and trigger sheep on gy, endboard is dragon + conqueror + combined + fieldspell + any spell/trap of your choosing giving a single draw, 2 if you started with dark blade. Now think about this deck playing around maxx c... Yeah, that's a lot different
Combo players when they need to create a new combo line and cannot copy-paste the spreadsheets.
@@renaldyhaen you can copy paste the spreadsheets onto a board, but that doesn't really mean you can play well if it goes to turn 3 or 5, mad respect to the people who main a singular deck, they probably have so much experience with playing around specific game states that goes beyond, step 1: do combo
Giving a little update: if you use gattic to add a bone party that you sent with creation you can pop gattic to add sheep with it before bringing back goblin (using the fusion destroying the sheep you added), so you can end on 2 spell/traps, you wouldn't have a name in hand to recover a Nibiru but seems worth it
I can't believe he had to make a video just to explain why maxx c is good.
Also important point made at 12:00 about how the difference btwn mulcharmy's make them uniquely shitty compared to maxx c.
It’s Maxx-C against anything but a handful of decks? Seems pretty damn strong to me.
"This card makes going second finally broken"
Oh god. It means that now konamy is gonna print cards that let you play under fowaross, MEANING going first is gonna become even more strong in the following years...
Bro multcharmy will totally keep combo decks in check bro trust me bro
I will Droll my self
This can unironically be a good strategy depending on your deck!
For example, the malice deck in the OCG only has a single in-archetype search (ransom search field spell) and it's not usually mandatory for your combo. Main decking droll at 3 is very solid for this deck for this reason, if you get maxx c or fuwaross'd you instantly droll after first draw and you're probably fine.
@@lucasg7720 yeah 100% I think certain decks HAVE to droll themselves for this shit, which I hate to see, but it is intresting counterplay, Imagine Pendulum tho
@@funz6491as an infernoble player I'll often droll myself before even normal summoning or my opponent activating a maxx c/mulcharmy.
rota/ any other searcher resolves and I droll myself because genuinely the deck does not care if it's drolled and so I'm not gonna risk my opponent even being able to cycle 1 card
Ban fuwaross and droll, easy
I think it will eventually fade out of main decks because people will get sick bricking on it but it will be mandatory in the side. Some exceptions are Flunder because of Advent, Snake Eyes because of Witch/Deception, and obviously Tenpai and other blind second decks.
Tbh this is why I think mimighoul is a solid pick next format. You literally give them a monster to hard shut off mulcharmies (so they have to shotgun them or risk getting punished), you main talents/trust to help deal with such issues, you play a couple silly floodgates that are backup gameplans when your lines through the charmies are mediocre, and the conservative mimighoul lines usually dont draw the opponent too many cards for fuwalos.
That is until they chain the charmy to maker and they get to draw anyway.
@@scorpioncox8978 i mean.... you just give them a ghoul first so they cant activate it. And sure there will be hands where you cannot play around it and you have to start maker but you either get dragon to get trap/fieldspell (1 draw) or you get fiend into get dragon into xyz to get trap/fieldspell (2 draws) before you just set your backrow use your handtraps to get through the opponent turn.
player will shotgun mulchummy in the draw phase anyway, it's bad to hold it since talent exist and no reason to keep it until your turn unless you know they play lab
@@thanatosxmesiah thats a fair point, though if they do that and they have trap/dragon/fieldspell in hand they can just pass usually without giving any draws.
However I will say the hand summon charmie is insanely strong against ghoul (and the new trap that cuts off earth effects) though im not sure how many people will play it next metagame.
Feel like he said it best in the begining, its 10 percent worse then max c, but thats still amazingly good
I'd argue this thing is better than maxx c cuz it has 2 layers of protections protecting the user from being decked out (draws only on some ss and shuffles cards to deck during end phase)
@@dhanyl2725 id say decking out from max c is a bit niche to put it above it but thats certainly an advantage
Dire really knocked it out of the park with their Skarlon impersonation
Ocg really went "You tcg players will have maxx c, like it or not"
For sake of argument, I'll argue that Fuwalos isn't as good as it's being hyped to be. This does not mean it's a bad card, it's still broken. It can be worked around by some decks by searching then summoning from hand or grave.
But then it runs into the other Mulcharmy, or the potential next one.
That being said, most decks don't have the option to modulate where they're summoning from.
While summoning from hand and graveyard does avoid the better mulcharmy, what do actually do with the material? You're still going to summon with that material and give your opponent more draws. So unless you can summon a boss monster from Hand or GY, you're just saying "Just play around Maxx C" by skipping your turn and proceeding to get OTKed.
It’s a good card but none of them are main deck staples. In my experience playing in the OCG they’re much better played in the side deck and selected based upon what deck you are up against. None of them are generically good against every deck you could face.
@@AristotleOfGreeceIn the TCG, we have less viable deck choices due the banlist. So it's going to be better against most of the good decks we have access to and play here.
@@UncleJrueForTue That’s a fair point.
±3 open disruptions are an ideal number for me. This is the sweet spot because if the player can make a good decision and use their skill, this will be enough to slow down or stop the opponent. I don't think it is skillful if you have 6 disruptions and your opponent has 6 cards. It is just either "Yes turbo" or your opponent luckily draw the unsearchable counter cards to break your boards. Yes, some "good decks" can make crazy boards under 3 disruptions, but I think it better to "adjust" those decks instead. Don't forget there are a lot of rogue decks that cannot play optimally under 3 disruptions too. Also, don't forget in handtraps heavy format, the players should have handtraps too.
Listening both sides of the argument makes me conclude it completely ruins any opening hand when going first, but is so good when reacting to your opponents turn you actually just pass without playing anything if you draw it going first.
As a Memento player, please tell me how you’re summoning Combined Creation from the deck, because that sounds busted as fuck.
5 tears ago it might have been ok, but now the individual power of single cards makes it where you can't give your opponent the plus 1 without all guaranteed losing. Just play a match against tenpai and have them resolve it once and they'll understand
The fact the OCG who have a better version of this card in Maxx C are running this card at 3 means it will absolutely be meta warping. Ash blossom can also be played around, but it’s still a 3 of in 95% of all deck lists.
I agree with the conclusion. 😂 Great content as usual.
Fun fact the card is also absolutely perfect in raidraptors since it's a level 4 winged beast even if you're going first with it you can use swallows cowrie to replace it for one of your engine cards
@@Burn2themall RR will be losing to 1-2 handtraps anyway still, more support needed
Idk how anyone could be so stupid to argue that Fuwalos is a bad card.
At absolutely worst its a card you will want to side in 100% of the time you go second with any deck in yu gi oh against 99.98% of all yu gi oh decks.
My Spirit Psy-Frame deck is eating good
The other thing about new maxx-c-lite is the fact you can play the cards you draw so any ht's can just be used and more importantly if you are playing a deck with garnets you don't wanna draw into it lets you reshuffle randomly so you only have 6 cards...thats still pretty strong because now the garnets can be even more of a non-factor.
The fact that this maxxc and the other mulcharmy is being played in the ocg speaks volumes.
At this point the game doesn't need to go down 2 steps it needs to go down like 3 flights of stairs.
It's a buff to decks that don't summon from the main. Unfortunately, hard to avoid the extra, but there are decks that primarily play on opponents turn.
Little knight stood at 130 for months this is a 150+ card. You needed 1 sp you play 3 or this card
If the restriction on the card was like +3 instead of +6 it would have been so much balanced and fun
This is a turn ender, except exactly tenpai or VV
Skull guardian, protector of the voiceless voice my GOAT, as a VV main, I cannot wait for my opponents to minus 1 themselves
Centur-Ion too lol, if this shit is what I need to make my deck popular, I will be sad bc I suck at the mirror
This just in, a slightly shorter bastard sword is still sharp and scary.
card is omega broken, yeah its worse maxx c, but not by that much. obviusly u would rather play against this than the earth insect but it still has the most problematic things about maxx, the fact that u still have 2 options, pass on nothing and lose, or combo and still lose to a 15 card hand. i would be shocked if this card didnt warp the whole meta around itself like maxx c
as Hardleg Gaming once put it (his 16 arguments debunking Maxx "c" video - 90k views I believe) - "you either have the most broken trap in the game (Vanity's) or the most broken draw spell in the game (Pot of Greed), like why create this cards when u have fucking Evenly at 3 and SEARCHABLE off Thrust, hate it man, I really do, hope Hardleg keeps making videos tho (as he and we all hate the bug)
It will wrap the meta around it, but it's not the same as maxx c. The problem with maxx c isn't that it's centralizing, it's that despite being 95% playrate, it still autowins half the games it appears in. You can't really build around Maxx C. You just hope to draw ash or called by. Fuwalos on the other hand will definitely warp the viability of decks in the meta towards those that can build boards with minimum extra deck span, but tbh that's probably for the best. People will need to focus on routes that minimize what is currently the dominant strategy. Unlike Maxx C though, you actually have room to build around it.
@@funz6491tbf evenly matched kinda sucks, I feel like drnm or lightning storm are both better going second cards
@@JumbaJumby From the data in Master Duel world. Maxx "C" increase only 10% win.
Go 2nd without Maxx "C" ---> with Maxx "C" = 37% --> 47%
Go 1st without Maxx "C" ----> With Maxx "C" = 59.8% ---> 62.5%
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Maxx "C" can only increase the chance by 10% at best. Fuwalos should be lower than that. Also, we can see how strong going 1st by looking the winrate, even without Maxx "C" involved. There should be something meaningful to balance the going 1st in YGO. And I think Fowallos is good for this. I don't think the players have the right to complain about Fuwalos, when going 1st already too strong in this game.
Ocg finally hits maxx c, Immediately makes maxx c 2 electric boogaloo
You have it backwards, friend. Maxx C 2 was printed well before they hit the bug
Ocg: Prints copies 4-6 of Maxx C
Ocg: That's a little too much Maxx C, let's limit it to 5 copies per deck that should be fine.
Tcg: ITS THE FUCKING DEVIL
The thing is it makes such a huge difference that you almost HAVE to buy it
No Multcharmy that draws off summons of tokens, from GY, banishment, backrow or normal summons from anywhere but hand yet? (normal summons from Extra Deck coming soon to counter Fuwalos)
Fuwalos works on normal summon from deck and extra deck.
Why are people arguing about how it’s not as good as Maxxx C? Even if it’s half as good as Maxx C it’d be be busted as fuck.
In what world is a card that’s “only useful going second” bad? Statistically you’ll be going second roughly half the time when you play.
Exactly , the worst thing about maxx c was facing it going first and basically skipping your turn and insta losing the game , that's the exact same effect they gave this .
Hand traps that punish drawing cards like "every time your opponent draws a card, inflict x ammount of damage" or "everytime your opponent draws a card, draw a card" might be the future of Yu-Gi-Oh's card design...
...or maybe not
So the counter is flunder again. Birds op
Robina can even search Fuwaross
@@PerfectImperfection64 it was meant to be
Should’ve played BUUUUUURDS
@@PerfectImperfection64 does fieldspell need a body on board?, if not then I might become a Flunder player
@@funz6491 No but Fuwalos requires you to control no cards
Good discussion video. Ty for spreading critical thinking in the community.
It's a more balanced Maxx C but it's still really good. Card advantage is crazy. Still is kinda bricky if you play it in main since you will add 3 garnets to your deck the moment you start playing it. I would only play it in side though. Also, slower backrow heavy or SS from GY or banish decks could see a resurgence.
fuwaross is better max c because if you think about it, you cant actually do the funny thing of decking out your opponent. its logistically impossible sadly.
'crossout is bad' hey dire
Crossout now has a target to keep the other problem cards 'in check' so is it really as bad as you'd think?
Like crossout seems bad until you realize that it helps you deck thin when you don't need that 3rd ht you wouldn't wanna draw.
Congrats Konami, you broke it. The best counter to Fuwa…. Is stun…..
The best counter is playing better and not stupidly overextending
@@mrbubbles6468stupidly overextending is when you make an end board so you don’t immediately get otk’d
@@mrbubbles6468 Stevie showed in his video why that’s bullshit lol
Time to figure out that stun is bad for the 2000th time!😊
These days I don’t care if main decks are too expensive, I can play something rogue whatever with a ton of hand traps and get by, but thanks to this that’s impossible cause now there’s another mandatory hand trap to play. Dire is kind of a moron.
Personally I think a Maxx “C” style card should exist since practically nothing else makes people stop their turn.
HERO mentioned 🗣️🗣️
Snake eye is probs the best when playing around that card because they can end on 5 disruption and only give your opponent 3 cards (which is still insane) or end on I:P with temple and oak into S:P + follow up and only give them 1 draw.
Jesus Dire. You’re really doing your best to keep the Dire L meme alive.
Can't wait to see Mulcharmy and that other card just be used with Maxx C in Master Duel cause Konami's will just forever think Maxx C is a Necessary Evil making it a Draw your Entire Deck unless you just Skip Turn.
It’s to the point where the next deck I consider playing is one that can realistically combo while only giving 1-2 draws to the opponent (shout out Drytron)
Wont voiceless be better? Dont think they summon from extra nor main deck. Centurion works as well since they give a +1.
@@Yami0to0hikari I’ve been thinking about Centurion also. I just sold my voiceless deck last format and don’t want to re buy it. 😂😭
@@Yami0to0hikari yeah, as a Cent player it's mostly fine, but as a Pend player, I'm cooked
When the engagement-baiting is so obvious you have to tell people you’re not engagement-baiting. 🙄
My question is: Is going second now going to be better than going first?
Until I could afford Fuwaross, I'm thinking of playing Salamangreat with maining Droll. Salad can play through Droll and with playing playsets of Ash and Droll (and possibly 1 Called By), it may give a better chance of playing
Resolving Maxx C against plant link is basically self mill, Mulcharmey won't be much different.
Memento plays around fuwalos pretty well, if yoir starter isnt dark blade you can still end on a solid board and only give them 1 draw
As someone who plays memento in MD: when I have no counter to maxx c I just yolo (I'll summon way more than 5x btw to do the full combo) and pray that my opponent gets intimidated by Combined Creation and scoops/get bored by the huge ass combo and scoops/somehow ends with a bricked hand and scoops lol
at best, it provokes a turn skip. other than that it becomes a dead draw.
It’s an amazing card, especially since we don’t have MaxC. However, it’s definitely NOT MaxC. People keep saying it basically is but it’s not. MaxC is so much better, for many reasons. The first thing to note is that Fuwalos is ONLY good turn one, AND ONLY if you’re NOT the turn player. It is useless past that point. It will feel really bad as your 6th draw or in your hand and going first. And you can’t compare this to other hand traps. Other hand traps can be used later, some even right away to interrupt your opponent. Fuwalos is actually just pure dead weight after turn 1. MaxC can be used at ANY point in the duel and can be used even if you went first, making your end board even crazier. The next reason, is that it can be played around by a fair amount of other decks, which btw runick WF can actually play around it pretty well by just using runick cards and turning Fuwalos into a upstart goblin. Another reason is that it actually does prevent you from drawing a ridiculous amount, which yeah isn’t that relevant most of the time.
Good to see someone understands yugioh 😂 so many bad players are in the yugioh community.
However the fact it's a going second card is key! Regardless players will run it at 3
You usually have to play into it because your opponent might double drop fuwaros so no ash or designator etc
Yet people main deck Evenly, the most blowout card in the game, wtf is ur point?
Upstart is dogshit bc it draws into dead handtraps, not live ones, unlike Mulcharmy
Some deck in tcg main decking dark ruler no more and evenly for going 1st deck, idk bud, you can just discard it without an issue
If a Generaider one-trick thinks a card is bad, it's probably great
Dire has to be farming engagement, because wow...what an inflammatory take. To say that you're a bad player for playing Maxx C lite is just stupid. Not even saying it's an overhyped card like Crossout, but flat out saying it's garbage is just objectively wrong as well. When the OCG is playing this card at 3 in the main in a format WITH Maxx C, then you know this card is cracked. I also like how Dire's arguement for playing around it is the same people have for Maxx C. Just don't summon forhead lol Dire smoking premium bro, they definitely tryna lower the price lol
TLDR: Common dire L
I think that a lot of people are just coping after they saw the price tag.
And I can´t blame them too hard for that.
Huh sounds like floo doesn’t lose to it. Oh no I’m gonna be playing against more floo now here we go
It's only *_extremely_* good going second. If you draw it going first or on turn three onward where you already have an established board it does absolutely nothing.
Granted Maxx c is similar in that it gets worse in most of those exact scenarios, but if you draw it going first you still get to activate it on your opponent's turn.
It's still a mandatory 3 of, but I see where they're coming from since most other hand traps have a use on an established board.
arguing with dire is top 3 biggest waste of time moments, recently she posted that singles sellers are at fault for card prices and not konami, and now we need to explain why maxx c is a strong card and everyone in ocg has been running it at 3
it has got to be just trollposting and farming reactions methinks actually brilliant
This just puts into perspective how broken Maxx C is again I feel like. Everything everyone is hyping about Fuwalos, Maxx C does and it does it better.
bc we're not getting Maxx "C" back???
@@funz6491 thats not what i mean lol I'm saying it shows how ludicrous it is that theres *any* format that allows it
I still think that Fuwa is still not worth maindecking unless you're Tenpai (or any blind second) or can generate value off it being a dead card in your hand.
My biggest issue is that this card "will" force you to make a weaker board and then your opponent will simply kill you because every Yu-Gi-Oh deck now can drop 12000 damage at a drop of a hat. Personally, I think the major issue is decks power output more than this card but of course we already know this.
Better would be how do you deal with that.
Finally, chain burn is meta-
I think Crossout Resignator is gonna be a 2 to 3 of in these decks.
Dire gaslighting everyone as always
sold my grandmas catalytic converter for one fuwalos
That's muck-rake-er to you
ngl 1 thing that i know is cross out is about to get limited to 1
thank god, make Nib good again
it is a broken card. I do think it is slightly overhyped it is a really good card but it isn't like you just pass when it is dropped on you. it is something that if you want to compete at the highest level you will need and that is about it. it is a good card that if it was affordable it would be at near 100% play rate if not 100% play rate
Didn't someone specifically quit the TGC due to specifically it along with Shifter?
I can't believe how people who ACTIVELY PLAY Yu-Gi-Oh can't see how busted this card is.
love dire, but what is she even thinking
Next meta deck is going to mill/banish from the deck then summon from there.
You have to have zero cards in hand for the effect even work in the first place right? How often do you have zero cards in your hand
No you only need 0 cards on field to activate Fuwalos
@@ronelm2000 thats crazy
Oh no! I got hit by Fuwalos! Anyway, normal sumon robina.
This is such a problem for yugioh man. The only decks that don't care about this card is Floo, stun decks and I guess branded if they open a nadir servant, and at that point their board is much weaker.
Unironically, shifter + mulcharmy is such a point, Yataloked will be happy, but no one else
In what universe do they ever print this barely nerfed Maxx C... Literally fire everyone that was involved and thought this was okay.
It is slightly easier to play around than maxx "c"
The ceiling is slightly lower than maxx "c" because the player drawing will end on fewer cards if the player going first full combos (though this is arguably better sometimes in case you draw too many things you wanted to summon from deck with maxx "c")
It is a lot worse against slightly more decks like voiceless voice
But largely, this is maxx "c" two that's only for the player going 2nd. Most of the arguments people are making for why this "isn't that good" would also apply to maxx "c" like "if the opponent is on floowandereeze or stun it's just a dead card that does nothing" or "you can just choose to not special summon so much" and then end on a board of 1 interraction and 1 handtrap against tenpai
I really like the idea of boosting the power the player going 2nd has. I think it is way too frustrating to stare down a full power yubel board and not draw your board breaker or draw too many board breakers and not enough engine. But I genuinely don't think these lingering floodgates like shifter or absolutely insane draw cards like mulcharmy or maxx "c" are the way to do it. I think they should just start making more decks that can play while the opponent going first is playing because that's a lot more fun and engaging than putting in 15 non engine cards and hoping you draw them or praying you get enough board breakers
yeah, I feel like they need to get rid of NIB counters instead, the card actually does what they want the bug to do if they cut King Caeser
Floowandereeze anyone? Me too.
yet another reason why im playing mimighoul
Have fun autolosing to Impulse I guess
@@Dylligraphy Huh? Impulse aint nothing to mimighouls dude what are you on about. Go read the new support.
Keep yourself safe mimighoul player
@@gamakujira64e23 aww thnx! say hi to yah mother for me.
@@MrZacdeath I will :)
Konami is just the riot games of the tcg world
Are we forgetting rescue ace don’t really do that just special summon turbulence then pass
R-ace is the deck that loses and beats the mulcharmy cards. They can more or less take or leave summoning from hand or deck depending on how they open. Also one of few archetypes that you do use fuwaross when you go first against them lmao
For normal Lab / unchained Lab, i would say fuwalos is good against it, but for the trap heavy/math lab, i would say its not great cause its usually a +1/2 at best and useless at worst cause set 5 pass
This card WILL BE LIMITED TO ONE on the next ban list guaranteed..
This card wont be touched for the next 2 years
Konami re-released Maxx C for a reason, Maxx C is legal on MD and OCG por a reason… they clearly intend for this card to break the game a part and fuck everything up
I too am a coper
@@aim-for-greatn3z947 limiting it would only make it more annoying because you will feel even worse when used against you