Games like this make me think wraiths COULD actually be useful, if not for anything else than causing chaos and supply blocks, but they're so dang flimsy
If they after would be microed to go that darkswarm with only hydras (and may be few lings, but no lurkers) in it near ramp - they would become not just heroes but legends)))
@czolgistta lol if u ever seen a good terran handle dark swarm, u see them getting irradiate. Vessels can easily erase units that cost 150 gas or 100, 250 ÷ 75 = 3,xx with 1 vessel u could kill 3 defilers , also storm is bounds more powerful than plague as they keep damaging overtime and has a bigger hitbox and go thru dark swarm.
I wanna see wrights more often. They are incredible usefull, it looks like Zergs can only use spores and overlords, cloaked wrights can kill mutas and hunt for drones. If you repairs them, it is.
@@FalconPaladin Well... I expected Flash to win aswell, mainly because how poorly the Dong has been playing (at least on your channel). Allthough Jaedong did put up a really good fight this time, much better then last couple of matches, but he lost his shine for sure.
@@FalconPaladin Nie, nie kolego ! To ja dziękuje! Odwalasz kawał dobrej roboty. SC BW to całkiem niezły epizod w mojej młodości. Łączenie PC z kumplami w garażu na kablu koncentrycznym :D . Nocki zarwane w kafejkach internetowych. Także dzięki wielkie ! Lubie, komentuje i subskrybuje, co tam tylko masz. Pozdrawiam z Berlina !
Wow, an epic TvZ struggle! The fields ran red with the blood of bugs and humans. I loved the early Wraith shenanigans and the Dong's Plagues were on point.
Really cool game. I'm glad Flash is back. I think it's going to help the scene overall. Random question though from a new viewer, do you always do a faster playback speed? It makes it kind of hard to watch for me.
That exactly why you need to go "bio + SV + tanks", instead of "bio + SV + BC" Also you can produce SV and tanks same time, while BC and SV can be produced "or those, or those" Yes, you need to do Factories for tanks, but since they are much cheaper than BC - exactly those resource difference just going to those Facs, also tanks producing much faster than BC And effectiveness vs Zerg ground stuff of tanks is just on another level than BCs ones, both for defending T bases and for attacking Z bses, also vs plague and darkswarm (and vs scourges, ofc))
"Still not nearly close to being cost efficient")) (if took only that moment, ofc - with rest of previoyus kills they were paid ofc for sure, those mutas, overlords and drones kill count was good enough for that investment)
I love how drones can chop up rocks with ease but can't melee worth shit. Actually, this bothers me about workers in many games. I get the design decision but it's just so absurd a hoard of organic power tools (or mechanical, in the case of SCVs) can only barely deal damage in a pinch. Like, yeah, you can totally chop up solid steel plates but boinking one guy takes a bazillion hits.
WTF is this map? The ability of Protoss and Terran to wall the natural is now an integral part of the game's balance and design. Not being able to do it is ridiculous!
BOTH players are getting rusty or trying to come back SPOILER BELOW but hidden to replies: Flash lost a recent game I BELIEVE against the Dong or Soma or another Zerg recently if I recall. Quite recently.
Games like this make me think wraiths COULD actually be useful, if not for anything else than causing chaos and supply blocks, but they're so dang flimsy
They are actually good, just micro intensive.
@@crewcutter2030 they should be medium units instead of large (more immune to explosive shots).
Honestly I loved them here.... Forced out hydras vs sk terrain is brilliant.
13:30 it looks like there was a nice catch on the minimap of 3 lurkers who wanted to go home:)
26:24 those hero firebats chasing and assassinating the the defilers was so cooll
If they after would be microed to go that darkswarm with only hydras (and may be few lings, but no lurkers) in it near ramp - they would become not just heroes but legends)))
The medic chased by that drone is like when people are chased by evil hornets.
Love seeing mass wraith, Flash is trying new metal clearly - but scivessel irraidate rush will typically play more dividends.
Such a banger, glad I saved this for a while.
I love maps where hard-walls are impossible, makes games more interesting.
drone chasing that medic had some tremmors vibes going
Flash v Dong??? LETS GO
Thank you!
Zerg is stupidely OP with that plage and cloud, it is disgusting that even sieged tanks can't do any damage in it, instead of half-damage at least.
Defiler is all that keeps zerg competive
@@TheInverseable then they should at least get rid of consume. Somehow other casters cannot recover mana any other way than "naturally".
Consume costs though
Splash damage is nothing to be sneezed at
@czolgistta lol if u ever seen a good terran handle dark swarm, u see them getting irradiate. Vessels can easily erase units that cost 150 gas or 100, 250 ÷ 75 = 3,xx with 1 vessel u could kill 3 defilers , also storm is bounds more powerful than plague as they keep damaging overtime and has a bigger hitbox and go thru dark swarm.
Whenever it is the heavy hitters like these two, I make sure I am good on snacks and junk food before watching 😆
What kind of snacks?
@@FalconPaladinmedics
@@FalconPaladin Doritos bbq and pistachio ice cream 🤤
@@Y_hass Sounds great! I don't know if I've ever seen Doritos BBQ.
@@FalconPaladin It's the purple bags, used to be grey.
I wanna see wrights more often. They are incredible usefull, it looks like Zergs can only use spores and overlords, cloaked wrights can kill mutas and hunt for drones. If you repairs them, it is.
The reverse bullying, Wraiths vs. Mutas, awesome game.
Jaedong vs Flash - Classic!
this wraith play is awesome
26:20 happy firebats vs defilers:)
More…more…more FlaSh!
00:02 and i already know flash gonna win…
How? Flash has about a 65% win rate on my channel, but it's far from 100%.
@@FalconPaladin Well... I expected Flash to win aswell, mainly because how poorly the Dong has been playing (at least on your channel). Allthough Jaedong did put up a really good fight this time, much better then last couple of matches, but he lost his shine for sure.
Nie ma jak porządna porcja Starcraft'a do wieczornej herbatki. Komentarz jak zwykle pierwsza klasa! Pozdrawiam !
Bardzo dziękuję!
@@FalconPaladin Nie, nie kolego ! To ja dziękuje! Odwalasz kawał dobrej roboty. SC BW to całkiem niezły epizod w mojej młodości. Łączenie PC z kumplami w garażu na kablu koncentrycznym :D . Nocki zarwane w kafejkach internetowych. Także dzięki wielkie ! Lubie, komentuje i subskrybuje, co tam tylko masz. Pozdrawiam z Berlina !
Wow, an epic TvZ struggle! The fields ran red with the blood of bugs and humans. I loved the early Wraith shenanigans and the Dong's Plagues were on point.
I like Wraiths! They fly and have Burst Laser! Pew pew!!
amazing!
Really cool game. I'm glad Flash is back. I think it's going to help the scene overall. Random question though from a new viewer, do you always do a faster playback speed? It makes it kind of hard to watch for me.
That exactly why you need to go "bio + SV + tanks", instead of "bio + SV + BC"
Also you can produce SV and tanks same time, while BC and SV can be produced "or those, or those"
Yes, you need to do Factories for tanks, but since they are much cheaper than BC - exactly those resource difference just going to those Facs, also tanks producing much faster than BC
And effectiveness vs Zerg ground stuff of tanks is just on another level than BCs ones, both for defending T bases and for attacking Z bses, also vs plague and darkswarm (and vs scourges, ofc))
Terran is too powerful when played by Flash...
16:36 the glorious sight of cloaked units assassinating defilers
"Still not nearly close to being cost efficient"))
(if took only that moment, ofc - with rest of previoyus kills they were paid ofc for sure, those mutas, overlords and drones kill count was good enough for that investment)
Ah nothing tops a Flash-Jaedong game. Flash's record on the channel goes to 101 wins and 52 losses
For the algorithm
Always fun to watch Flash!
13:28 I don’t know why Terran rarely cleanse & repair valuable mechanical units
that's not tanks supporting marines, but marines supporting tanks
Every 10 games of t vs z, Zerg wins like 2 out of 10 times… 😂😂😂
flash owning jaedong, whats new?
KERRIGAN INTRO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I love how drones can chop up rocks with ease but can't melee worth shit. Actually, this bothers me about workers in many games. I get the design decision but it's just so absurd a hoard of organic power tools (or mechanical, in the case of SCVs) can only barely deal damage in a pinch. Like, yeah, you can totally chop up solid steel plates but boinking one guy takes a bazillion hits.
WTF is this map? The ability of Protoss and Terran to wall the natural is now an integral part of the game's balance and design.
Not being able to do it is ridiculous!
Flash handled it beautifully
BOTH players are getting rusty or trying to come back SPOILER BELOW but hidden to replies:
Flash lost a recent game I BELIEVE against the Dong or Soma or another Zerg recently if I recall. Quite recently.
bro you gotta do a better job at 13:40 ish to catch the action.
26:20 hero firebats