In my opinion Type 57 is better than premium version. -12 gun depression without hydropneumatic suspension is just epic, gun is good even without fully aiming as well 4 stars for me
the premium version has no weakspot on the turret ond great heat pen, making it idiotproof to play the ridgeline with. Since both tanks suck when not hulldown i guess premium is better
I have the feeling people undervalue these heavies. Sure their hull armor is not the best. People say they are "slow" but their speed is plain average. They seem to forget their guns are great in all values like pen, shell velocity and gunhandling. You have to trade dpm for the accuracy. But we are talking about 0.25 accuracy here that goes along all the tanks. We are talking about the highest accuracy values in the game next to the strv and leo. Just to also be silent of how much of a value -12 depression is. Having to pay that for having worse hull armor only seems natural.
A downside to the mechanic is that nothing speeds up the gun cooling. You can increase your reload in a few ways, but that just means you have a bigger gap between reload and accuracy mode. Maybe they should have let reload mods, or at least crew skill, apply to cooling time too. I also think they should have made your accuracy increase gradually over the cooling period, not all at once at the end.
Why? Autoloader can't mount gunrammers for good reason. Intraclip for every autolaoder can't be influenced for a good reason Idle-time after firing a double shot with every double-barrel can't be influenced for a good reason. So why must cooling down time be able to be influenced? "....gradually over the cooling period, not all at once at the end." its exponential to my knowledge, meaning it IS gradual, just ramps up near the end.
ya can't train ur cooling systems to cool faster like you can train crew to reload faster.. though wg could add consumables like better coolant (just as there is fuels to increase speed) but nobody would use them I guess
Open maps are extremely rare. Played 6 hours and had only one malinovka or similar map. Type63 has same ssht but its kaku.. Its ghost shell producing tonk
@@fencer39he was at the flank of the type 57, what do u expect. Front armor is weak but the overall armor is decent, especially it has diamond shaped hull which may have extra spaced armor
Basically a TD with more armor and some speed. This tank is awesome for modes like Frontline. :) 12 degrees of gun depression is awesome. The meta now isn't DPM but poke a ridge, fire, retreat, poke again. 1-2 seconds longer reload and SRV-103B troll bounce angles at your angled turret - lovely stuff. :) Just... do NOT NOT NOT play it like a heavy and face-hug. Think of it as a very fast TD like if the UK or American lines had a turret and didn't go 20kph. :)
I play this line with turbo, stabs, and hardening and it fits my play style. Had +55% wr on this tank. I feel like this tank is much better than the t9 only on the fact that this can somewhat side scrape with its design of its side hull, given that they don’t shoot gold. But the turbo was a must, if you get on the hull down before the other heavies its gg for them
this stock tank is way better than majority of every other tier 8 stock which is crazy most start with a garbage gun that doesn't belong in said tier making grinding way harder than it should.
Only the tier 9 is the gem. Tier 10 has same accuracy as tier 9. The DPM being garbage is what makes the line not worthy to invest. You can simply do better with the british heavies all the way from tier 7 to 10 having great gun handling. If WG buff the DPM of the tiers 8, 9 and 10 I might give it a try though but it will take years like the buff to the british wheelies.
The 703 is very good, great gun handling, great armour, decent mobility, my biggest problem is 5 degrees of gun depression but it's still an amazing tank. I got the 122tm from the trade-in tonight and I love it, terrible DPM and is quite slow, but it's accurate and has great pen and shell velocity, with very good armour for a medium tank. Those would be my two picks, if you want Skill's opinion he has rated every tank he's played on his website, just look up Skill4ltu index and on the website filter by tier 8 premiums.
I think you have to use rammer and vents as the dpm is so bad, just to be able to kill some tier 10s, before the game runs out of time, I struggled to kill a full health Maus in 3 minuits before the battle timer ran out 😂
I havent played with this tank but it certainly does not appear to be well armored. Its easily penetrated by 200mm of pen. It seems no matter how this tank is positioned you are showing a weak armor zone. Turret frontaly looked ok but even a slightest angle and its easily penetrated.
Type 63 has no turret weak spots/ way smaller ones, overall it fits the play style of the tier 9 and 10 since they don’t have good hill armor and have 10 degrees with hydo suspension for extra 2 vs 12 degrees gun depression
Because the DPM is utter garbage. This tank, compared to the vast majority of heavies, needs open maps to snipe, with ridges that help to work with the gun depression. In a city map it will get overrun by any other heavy. A Caernarvon with massive DPM will eat it alive. The tier 9 and 10 have the same gun accuracy and the jump in terms of DPM isn't really that big. Now they are popular because they are new but eventually players will realize you can pretty much do the same with a S. Conqueror having like 50% more DPM.
It's actually funny how much harder people try to win once you claim the game is a loss, like why not just do that from the beginning of every match lmao
For a tank that weighs 50T, doesn't have much hull armor. It's slow, view range isn't great and poor DPM. Works well on a ridge, but good luck fighting in a city map.
Rubish tank. Have only one place - nice hull down.. but if there is no space for that its completly usless with his not existing armour and fake accuracy. I tried with 0.24... still renegade with his 0.35 is waaaay more accurate. DPM is very low.. if you want to have better fake accuracy - its tragic. Slow, turn and turret turn like in superheavy. Just another rubish.
Hey User - after having played a fair amount in this tank, i don’t think so. The low DPM and somewhat sluggish speed limits its ability to really dominate a battlefield. But it is a solid tank. The tier 9 really seems like the gem of the line to me.
In my opinion Type 57 is better than premium version. -12 gun depression without hydropneumatic suspension is just epic, gun is good even without fully aiming as well
4 stars for me
and it really looks cool.
this is the worst tank in the new tech tree dude...
Also because it doesn’t rely on the suspension to reach maximum gun depression, means it has -12 gun depression on atleast 270 degrees left and right.
@@КаменьКустMitsu and Ju-To are going for take the place on the bottom truly.
the premium version has no weakspot on the turret ond great heat pen, making it idiotproof to play the ridgeline with. Since both tanks suck when not hulldown i guess premium is better
I have the feeling people undervalue these heavies. Sure their hull armor is not the best. People say they are "slow" but their speed is plain average. They seem to forget their guns are great in all values like pen, shell velocity and gunhandling. You have to trade dpm for the accuracy.
But we are talking about 0.25 accuracy here that goes along all the tanks. We are talking about the highest accuracy values in the game next to the strv and leo. Just to also be silent of how much of a value -12 depression is. Having to pay that for having worse hull armor only seems natural.
Eh 9 seconds for 360 is ok to me Skill.
Ancient IS3 reloads 10 seconds with all skills,bond stuff and food.
I thought the same thing. I remember long before the game went HD when my KV-4 had a 10.8 second reload... for 320 alpha damage lol
@@psnmadracer27 Yeah and from some reason garbage 110 can have 3k dpm thats balanced too:):)
@@joe125ful110 was like the best tier 8 heavy when it went in the game , they had to nerf it
@@mihaicostel5883 Well it dont have best armor and mobility is bad too.
But gun can work well on paper?
Yea, meanwhile Lowe has 9-10s reload just for a 320 alpha dmg gun
For what its worth, this tank looks beautiful
I'd love to see more maps instead of more and more tanks.
THIS.
I’ll tell you, if you like the tier 8 you should love the 9. The dpm is much higher and still has a fantastic gun.
I’m very happy with it
This was the only tank on the line including the premium that I had fun with. I genuinely enjoyed playing it.
This tank is awesome. My favorite tier 8 at the moment . I don't have the BZ-176. I think that would probably be the best.
It is, but I have a gut feeling WG won't be selling it again😂
A downside to the mechanic is that nothing speeds up the gun cooling. You can increase your reload in a few ways, but that just means you have a bigger gap between reload and accuracy mode. Maybe they should have let reload mods, or at least crew skill, apply to cooling time too. I also think they should have made your accuracy increase gradually over the cooling period, not all at once at the end.
Why? Autoloader can't mount gunrammers for good reason.
Intraclip for every autolaoder can't be influenced for a good reason
Idle-time after firing a double shot with every double-barrel can't be influenced for a good reason.
So why must cooling down time be able to be influenced?
"....gradually over the cooling period, not all at once at the end." its exponential to my knowledge, meaning it IS gradual, just ramps up near the end.
ya can't train ur cooling systems to cool faster like you can train crew to reload faster.. though wg could add consumables like better coolant (just as there is fuels to increase speed) but nobody would use them I guess
Putting Skill4tu in my T67 is worth it
It's like winning while losing.
Open maps are extremely rare. Played 6 hours and had only one malinovka or similar map. Type63 has same ssht but its kaku.. Its ghost shell producing tonk
Best of the new japanese heavies including the premium. The only tank with actual hull armor
you saw how tier 6 TD damge him in 2nd game?
@@fencer39 Yes. Doesn't change my opinion
@@fencer39he was at the flank of the type 57, what do u expect. Front armor is weak but the overall armor is decent, especially it has diamond shaped hull which may have extra spaced armor
@@fencer39 Well it's not VK100... Flat side and rear shots.
Basically a TD with more armor and some speed. This tank is awesome for modes like Frontline. :) 12 degrees of gun depression is awesome. The meta now isn't DPM but poke a ridge, fire, retreat, poke again. 1-2 seconds longer reload and SRV-103B troll bounce angles at your angled turret - lovely stuff. :) Just... do NOT NOT NOT play it like a heavy and face-hug. Think of it as a very fast TD like if the UK or American lines had a turret and didn't go 20kph. :)
If the tier 9 and 10 had armor like this one, at least you can anglethe hull
I play this line with turbo, stabs, and hardening and it fits my play style. Had +55% wr on this tank. I feel like this tank is much better than the t9 only on the fact that this can somewhat side scrape with its design of its side hull, given that they don’t shoot gold. But the turbo was a must, if you get on the hull down before the other heavies its gg for them
Playing the tank with the stock gun and i already liked it.
Hi skill! Where can i find the mod for MoE what you are using?
Skill, how can I see both reticles at the same time?
I have the same problem.. Only have one reticle even I waited more them 16-17 second it only gets smaller without outlines of the reticle./
Unlocking the tier 8 today,,GG👍
Plase can tell me how use 5Xp and where are because i dont see în mi acount and i have some
this stock tank is way better than majority of every other tier 8 stock which is crazy most start with a garbage gun that doesn't belong in said tier making grinding way harder than it should.
I so love my Type 57. Preetey good tank.
Day 4: Request for AT 8. There are no recordings for this tank yet.
best tank from that line.
First good tank in the line but I feel the tier nine is a little better ...... now the ten is different story
@@randytessman6750 if 10 is dogshit then whats the point af all line
Only the tier 9 is the gem. Tier 10 has same accuracy as tier 9. The DPM being garbage is what makes the line not worthy to invest. You can simply do better with the british heavies all the way from tier 7 to 10 having great gun handling. If WG buff the DPM of the tiers 8, 9 and 10 I might give it a try though but it will take years like the buff to the british wheelies.
Cooling mechanic should be max 2 seconds
Ay skill nice haircut, thx for the content 💯
Fully aimed shots miss? Ghost shells? Premium ammo that hugs the dirt? You are going to lose.
Skeeeeeeel! There are new tanks for trade-in, could you give some advise?
The double gun rashan tank, obviously .
@@Kohagaan 122tm seems very tasty with its high pen
@@vitalymakurin5667 then enjoy that horrible DPM, that is even worse than T-34's DPM.
The 703 is very good, great gun handling, great armour, decent mobility, my biggest problem is 5 degrees of gun depression but it's still an amazing tank.
I got the 122tm from the trade-in tonight and I love it, terrible DPM and is quite slow, but it's accurate and has great pen and shell velocity, with very good armour for a medium tank.
Those would be my two picks, if you want Skill's opinion he has rated every tank he's played on his website, just look up Skill4ltu index and on the website filter by tier 8 premiums.
@@Kohagaan It has great armor though, something the T34 can't really show off.
Love ur second shirt.
I think you have to use rammer and vents as the dpm is so bad, just to be able to kill some tier 10s, before the game runs out of time, I struggled to kill a full health Maus in 3 minuits before the battle timer ran out 😂
I havent played with this tank but it certainly does not appear to be well armored. Its easily penetrated by 200mm of pen. It seems no matter how this tank is positioned you are showing a weak armor zone. Turret frontaly looked ok but even a slightest angle and its easily penetrated.
The shape is annoying too , if you shoot right under the gun the shells ricochet down into the hull
Good, you also provide negative features, that makes it interesting.
Kam tu kalbi su tokiu stipriu akcentu? :D
best tank in this line i would say
Yeah the armor models somehow just got worse at tier 9 and ESPECIALLY 10....
SKIEEEL what a haircut
Positive things: the Tank look good
Negative things: everything else
Why does it look better than type 63?
Because thats how it should be
Type 63 has no turret weak spots/ way smaller ones, overall it fits the play style of the tier 9 and 10 since they don’t have good hill armor and have 10 degrees with hydo suspension for extra 2 vs 12 degrees gun depression
The way that tier VIII, IX, X look, tier X should look like tier X, tier VIII has the best look
totally agree
Tier 8 looks głos, but tier 10 to compare its like diable person
Edit:Itsgreat fot sniping copulas in higher mm.
no japanese HT premium ? is this wot anymore 🤨
Huh? what are you talking about? Tye 63 exists.
@@skorpion7132 i didn't saw it on tech tree that's why... i knew something was wrong 😂😂😂
This tank seemed OP on paper and armor layout but in reality it isn’t surprisingly
Because the DPM is utter garbage. This tank, compared to the vast majority of heavies, needs open maps to snipe, with ridges that help to work with the gun depression. In a city map it will get overrun by any other heavy. A Caernarvon with massive DPM will eat it alive. The tier 9 and 10 have the same gun accuracy and the jump in terms of DPM isn't really that big. Now they are popular because they are new but eventually players will realize you can pretty much do the same with a S. Conqueror having like 50% more DPM.
Yeah but in Blitz is great.
1st enemy team was full of muppets.
400 damage per shot is waay too low ( still getting tier X )
New line to run down thanks skill
AP Shellvelocity fells sluggish Do you guys fell the same?
It's actually funny how much harder people try to win once you claim the game is a loss, like why not just do that from the beginning of every match lmao
This tank is kaku. Even fully upgraded
dynamic replay ___BLACK__PANTHER___ Мой бой 😊
i think t32 is much better than this, as a hull down heavy
Better Tiger 2, better gun, turret, gun dep and faster platform..
make it 3
For a tank that weighs 50T, doesn't have much hull armor. It's slow, view range isn't great and poor DPM. Works well on a ridge, but good luck fighting in a city map.
If you reverse side scrape it’s fine. The side armor is also kinda troll
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Gun is better then type 63, is more accurate
Rubish tank. Have only one place - nice hull down.. but if there is no space for that its completly usless with his not existing armour and fake accuracy. I tried with 0.24... still renegade with his 0.35 is waaaay more accurate.
DPM is very low.. if you want to have better fake accuracy - its tragic. Slow, turn and turret turn like in superheavy. Just another rubish.
Without a doubt this tank will get nerfed
Hey User - after having played a fair amount in this tank, i don’t think so. The low DPM and somewhat sluggish speed limits its ability to really dominate a battlefield. But it is a solid tank. The tier 9 really seems like the gem of the line to me.
Too late now skill.
Ggs
360 Alpha? More like 300
Pls write something useful...
2+2=4
@@AC-rx6fr - 1 thats 3 QUICK MATHS
something useful...
something useful...
Wargaming should nerf arty or put 1 only for team is garbage and op
Nonsense
@@skorpion7132 yes sense
4th 🙂
Second babonn
In my opinion T-57 is week . For minus armor even turret, engine and horsepower. For plus depression and aiming. In overall it is heavy slow med
third
First! :D
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