Couple of facts you may want to take on board. The owners of Worcester City and Sixways wanted Worcester City to become tenants of Sixways, but it fell through when it was somehow leaked. They approached Worcester Raiders instead. Warriors owners also became joint owners of Raiders for a while. The owners also own Morecambe FC. When Warriors went bust, Raiders signed an agreement to rent Sixways for a period while new owners were found. The ongoing legal wranglings are well documented. Sixways Holdings Ltd now have no connection to the former owners Whittingham & Goldring, and the Sixways pitch is used by Raiders (average gate 200), Worcester City Women FC (average gate 150) and has been used on occasion by Worcester City (biggest gate so far 3189 for the FA Vase semi final first leg). While the old capacity of Sixways was 12000, there are presently no safety certificates for either end of the ground, and the ground is capped at 4999 (whereas the big East stand actually holds 7200). When Raiders and City met in the league back in August, the gate was 2475. Despite this, Raiders still only average 200 or so. The second local derby of the season will be this coming Tuesday, and is also being played at Sixways as Worcester City's home ground at the County FA HQ is waterlogged. Hellenic League Champions City are expecting the biggest crowd of the season, unsurprisingly. There were rumours that Raiders were planning to leave Sixways due to the rent cost, but they have agreed a new two year lease. Where promoted City will be playing next year is anyone's guess, the County FA HQ is nowhere near the standard required at Step 4.
Coventry City used to regularly have a pre-season friendly against Worcester City. And always, without fail, lost! A loss which was repeated at the Ricoh in the FA Cup First Round of 2014, a youthful James Maddison finding himself amongst those vanquished. How times have changed.
Not that simple. County FA can't afford a bag of crisps let alone a multi million stadium, they can't even afford adequate drainage at the ground they own, hence City having to play four games at Sixways lately. Raiders can't justify the rent they pay on 200 gates, and City have refused to consider a move to Sixways as they would lose all the off-pitch revenue from food/beer on match days. It's also a horrible artificial pitch that isn't like your usual 3G/4G pitch but made of coconut crumb with longer "grass" so as not to graze rugby players knees. Half of Sixways is also without safety certs, capacity is 4999 and even with a gate the size that City drew for the FA Vase semi there (3189) it was still very big and very empty.
Rather than Worcester City FC build another stadium, surely it would be simpler and possibly beneficial to all parties to share the ground with the Raiders?
I’ve just moved to the area and I want to have a local team and I’m choosing Worcester city because they had a bright past and they are on the up now, did I make the right decision? ,also you said there’s uncertainty on the raiders ground and I don’t want to start supporting a club that’s in loads of bother, did I make the right decision
Either team is fine, City has history, and Raiders have the stadium. The uncertainty over the stadium is more about whether rugby will return in the form of the Worcester Warriors but for the Raiders they have an agreement in place for the stadium. The difference between the club is that Worcester City have a long history and is the traditional club. Worcester Raiders is just a club that focused on youth football that developed a senior team.
City have just won the league, have played a few games at six ways, last one against Raiders, 1600 turned up for that. City are probably going to go up a few leagues if they can keep the players they currently have. City beat Raiders 4 . 0 last time at 6ways.
@TheFootballFansShow I think the 6ways situation is complicated. City need a permanent solution, at least a 10k capacity ground, the original one could manage 15k until rules changed. Heyho. For a non league club they have occasionally almost been able to advance but got let down by not having the correct turnstiles for instance. City board turned down Duckworths money apparently....
You really skimmed over a lot of important information. Worcester has been top flight in every sport except football within the last 10 years so im confused on your takes about worcester sporting wise?
My take is that Worcester Rugby was nothing without Cecil Duckworth. In the same way, Newcastle would be nothing without the Saudis. Worcester were never, and do feel free to correct me. They were never a top flight rugby team, and there's no history of being a top rugby team before Cecil Duckworth turned up. I'm no rugby fan, but I'm surrounded by Bath, Bristol, and Gloucester fans who have the take that the warriors were inflated beyond their level. I didn't mention cricket, which should have been mentioned as Worcestershire has always excelled at that sport.
Correct. Worcester RFC were a lower league team that Cecil Duckworth invested in, there was never any history of success. There was always this sense of nouveau riche about the place, no pedigree or tradition. Always felt very artificial. Great facilities but no identity.
So sorry for Worcester City, Worcester raiders sounds like a rugby league team,I don't get it, honestly why don't Worcester City the real Club for Worcester get more respect Worcester was never a rugby City in the firrst place, I remember the Southern league Champions,if only the council fought for the club like them,it's heartbreaking
Worcester Warriors were liquidated in 2023!
Couple of facts you may want to take on board. The owners of Worcester City and Sixways wanted Worcester City to become tenants of Sixways, but it fell through when it was somehow leaked. They approached Worcester Raiders instead. Warriors owners also became joint owners of Raiders for a while. The owners also own Morecambe FC. When Warriors went bust, Raiders signed an agreement to rent Sixways for a period while new owners were found. The ongoing legal wranglings are well documented. Sixways Holdings Ltd now have no connection to the former owners Whittingham & Goldring, and the Sixways pitch is used by Raiders (average gate 200), Worcester City Women FC (average gate 150) and has been used on occasion by Worcester City (biggest gate so far 3189 for the FA Vase semi final first leg). While the old capacity of Sixways was 12000, there are presently no safety certificates for either end of the ground, and the ground is capped at 4999 (whereas the big East stand actually holds 7200). When Raiders and City met in the league back in August, the gate was 2475. Despite this, Raiders still only average 200 or so. The second local derby of the season will be this coming Tuesday, and is also being played at Sixways as Worcester City's home ground at the County FA HQ is waterlogged. Hellenic League Champions City are expecting the biggest crowd of the season, unsurprisingly. There were rumours that Raiders were planning to leave Sixways due to the rent cost, but they have agreed a new two year lease. Where promoted City will be playing next year is anyone's guess, the County FA HQ is nowhere near the standard required at Step 4.
Coventry City used to regularly have a pre-season friendly against Worcester City. And always, without fail, lost! A loss which was repeated at the Ricoh in the FA Cup First Round of 2014, a youthful James Maddison finding himself amongst those vanquished. How times have changed.
Would make sense for all involved if both Worcester clubs ground shared the 12,000 seater and the Worcester FA moved their base to the same stadium
Not that simple. County FA can't afford a bag of crisps let alone a multi million stadium, they can't even afford adequate drainage at the ground they own, hence City having to play four games at Sixways lately. Raiders can't justify the rent they pay on 200 gates, and City have refused to consider a move to Sixways as they would lose all the off-pitch revenue from food/beer on match days. It's also a horrible artificial pitch that isn't like your usual 3G/4G pitch but made of coconut crumb with longer "grass" so as not to graze rugby players knees. Half of Sixways is also without safety certs, capacity is 4999 and even with a gate the size that City drew for the FA Vase semi there (3189) it was still very big and very empty.
So Wocester wasnt a Rugby county, and Worsester isnt a football county? What the fuck do they actually do in Wooster?
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Rather than Worcester City FC build another stadium, surely it would be simpler and possibly beneficial to all parties to share the ground with the Raiders?
Pffftt no thanks lad.
I’ve just moved to the area and I want to have a local team and I’m choosing Worcester city because they had a bright past and they are on the up now, did I make the right decision? ,also you said there’s uncertainty on the raiders ground and I don’t want to start supporting a club that’s in loads of bother, did I make the right decision
Either team is fine, City has history, and Raiders have the stadium. The uncertainty over the stadium is more about whether rugby will return in the form of the Worcester Warriors but for the Raiders they have an agreement in place for the stadium.
The difference between the club is that Worcester City have a long history and is the traditional club.
Worcester Raiders is just a club that focused on youth football that developed a senior team.
City have just won the league, have played a few games at six ways, last one against Raiders, 1600 turned up for that.
City are probably going to go up a few leagues if they can keep the players they currently have.
City beat Raiders 4 . 0 last time at 6ways.
Can they buy or lease the stadium?
@TheFootballFansShow I think the 6ways situation is complicated. City need a permanent solution, at least a 10k capacity ground, the original one could manage 15k until rules changed. Heyho. For a non league club they have occasionally almost been able to advance but got let down by not having the correct turnstiles for instance.
City board turned down Duckworths money apparently....
Come on wrfc
You really skimmed over a lot of important information.
Worcester has been top flight in every sport except football within the last 10 years so im confused on your takes about worcester sporting wise?
My take is that Worcester Rugby was nothing without Cecil Duckworth. In the same way, Newcastle would be nothing without the Saudis. Worcester were never, and do feel free to correct me. They were never a top flight rugby team, and there's no history of being a top rugby team before Cecil Duckworth turned up. I'm no rugby fan, but I'm surrounded by Bath, Bristol, and Gloucester fans who have the take that the warriors were inflated beyond their level.
I didn't mention cricket, which should have been mentioned as Worcestershire has always excelled at that sport.
Correct. Worcester RFC were a lower league team that Cecil Duckworth invested in, there was never any history of success. There was always this sense of nouveau riche about the place, no pedigree or tradition. Always felt very artificial. Great facilities but no identity.
So sorry for Worcester City, Worcester raiders sounds like a rugby league team,I don't get it, honestly why don't Worcester City the real Club for Worcester get more respect Worcester was never a rugby City in the firrst place, I remember the Southern league Champions,if only the council fought for the club like them,it's heartbreaking
we’re on our way back mate, need our new ground built and one or two more promotions and all will be normal again
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It’s so sad that the Warriors folded, Worcester is a Rugby county, hopefully they’ll return one day
What happened to Stourbridge becoming Sixways Rugby? I remember that being a rumour a couple of months back.
Stourbridge RFC got relegated and it ceased to be commercially viable.