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  • @vance12341234
    @vance12341234 4 роки тому +2

    Great Vid, new starter, battery and solinoid. 12.6 at line side of sol 4.6v on load side of sol.
    Clicks, switched out to another solinoid same problem. Neutral light flickers...(Aprilia SVX-450 2008)

    • @TheWizechatmgr
      @TheWizechatmgr  4 роки тому

      What happens if you engage the coil to the solenoid by jumpering it? Sorry for the late response, been crazy lately.

    • @vance12341234
      @vance12341234 4 роки тому +1

      @@TheWizechatmgr Still 9v at starter positive. I even did a upgrade on wires (POS and neg) still won't crank. 9v out of Solinoid and to the starter.
      Gonna roll it backwards tomorrow make sure engine rotates. If it does I'm going to out a car starter solinoid on it. New starter, batt, solinoid, and wires.

    • @TheWizechatmgr
      @TheWizechatmgr  4 роки тому

      @@vance12341234 I'd pull the starter, run a ground to it and see if it spins. You could have a flat spot.

  • @jboy680
    @jboy680 3 роки тому +2

    Would be REALLY nice if u happened to mention what contraption you were workin on. ex: quad , motorcycle, snowmobile ??? It makes a HUGE difference in case you didnt think of that.

    • @TheWizechatmgr
      @TheWizechatmgr  3 роки тому +1

      You raise a good point. While the engineering is the same, I guess it could confuse some. I plan on redoing most of the content I have up, so I'll try to incorporate that change. =)

    • @jboy680
      @jboy680 3 роки тому

      @@TheWizechatmgr thank you !

  • @hubbabubba426
    @hubbabubba426 6 місяців тому +1

    starter wont turn over until you shake the handlebars and then the starter kicks in.

    • @TheWizechatmgr
      @TheWizechatmgr  6 місяців тому +1

      Sounds like you may have a short in the wiring loom going to the handle bars. Take the tank off and see if you can locate the issue...

    • @hubbabubba426
      @hubbabubba426 6 місяців тому

      @@TheWizechatmgr thank you I will do that. thanks for the help

  • @edwardcampbell3420
    @edwardcampbell3420 Рік тому +1

    Can a bad clutch diode, located near stater relay, keep bike from starting?

    • @TheWizechatmgr
      @TheWizechatmgr  Рік тому

      Potentially yes, but if you put the bike in Neutral it should bypass that interlock -- if I remember correctly...

    • @edwardcampbell3420
      @edwardcampbell3420 Рік тому

      @@TheWizechatmgr thanks

  • @MrDragon013
    @MrDragon013 5 років тому +8

    Clutch safety was my problem, wore down where the lever wouldn’t grab it

  • @derpityderp8335
    @derpityderp8335 3 роки тому +3

    I have a 2004 raptor 660 won't crank all the way and smoke comes out of the cylinoid and gets really hot on red cable . Already replaced the decompresser, starter clucth, battery and cylinoid. Still having the same problem, dont know what it could be help.

    • @TheWizechatmgr
      @TheWizechatmgr  3 роки тому +1

      Check the power lead going down to the starter and the starter itself. You likely have a short. Also verify you have a good ground.

    • @derpityderp8335
      @derpityderp8335 3 роки тому

      @@TheWizechatmgr ill check, thanks for the info 😊

  • @johnmiddleton726
    @johnmiddleton726 3 роки тому +1

    I have an 03=Yamaha XVS1100 and I think the starter relay is bad. How do I get the old one out? Thanks

    • @TheWizechatmgr
      @TheWizechatmgr  3 роки тому

      Unhook battery, remove bolts from solenoid, unplug harness connector and Remove solenoid, installation is the reverse :)

  • @toccoultra
    @toccoultra 6 років тому +4

    Hi thanks for the video... My bike doesn't start at all. The electrics don't turn on and I'm not sure if the starter relay isn't working or if it's the ECU that doesn't work .. but my bike don't even make a noise or even the electrics don't turn on. What could be the problem ? I broke down 2 weeks ago and and realised the front coil pack was split in half, could that have fused/earthed anything else in the process?

    • @TheWizechatmgr
      @TheWizechatmgr  6 років тому +1

      Have you verified the battery isn't flat? I'd start there and work my way outwards.

    • @toccoultra
      @toccoultra 6 років тому

      @@TheWizechatmgr it's a brand new battery and it 100%works

    • @TheWizechatmgr
      @TheWizechatmgr  6 років тому +1

      Test the ignition switch and make sure all fuses aren't burnt. Which make/model/year?

    • @toccoultra
      @toccoultra 6 років тому

      @@TheWizechatmgr it's a Suzuki Intruder 125cc 2003. I took it to a garage last week and the guy couldn't fix it but he thinks it's the ECU. If all the electrics stopped working do you think it's the starter relay?

    • @TheWizechatmgr
      @TheWizechatmgr  6 років тому +1

      See if you can find a schematic and then trace the wiring. Even with the ECU shot you should at least be able to get your 4 ways to work typically with the key on...

  • @dronzerbikemodifications-p605
    @dronzerbikemodifications-p605 5 років тому +4

    Starting problem in my bike... and starting relay sound like tik tik tik when press self start button and all lighting in bike blinking with tik tik sound ?.. is starting relay foult or damage ?pls answer

    • @TheWizechatmgr
      @TheWizechatmgr  5 років тому +1

      Check voltage at battery while cranking and without cranking. Could be a bad starter or a flat battery. Would highly recommend you take the battery out and have it load tested.

    • @dronzerbikemodifications-p605
      @dronzerbikemodifications-p605 5 років тому

      Battery is okay.. what is do now

    • @TheWizechatmgr
      @TheWizechatmgr  5 років тому

      @@dronzerbikemodifications-p605 how did you determine it is okay? Chargers can indicate they are okay even when they are not.

  • @04poppop
    @04poppop 5 років тому +2

    My Honda SH 125 stops starting after couple stops and go. It just clicks. Wait for 15 min and it start ok. Battery is fully charged, original started motor is tested and spinning but I still bought new and installed. When I skip relay and connect battery plus and started motor minus with screwdriver it just sparks. Used to start normally on first start but now wont even on first start. Clutch wheels are moving. I also replaced the plug. Could it be something wrong with engine, problem started after like 15 miles, on cold start, biket used to start without problems. Thank you

    • @TheWizechatmgr
      @TheWizechatmgr  5 років тому

      I see you note that the battery is fully charged - is it a newer battery and has that battery ever been flat? The reason I ask is occasionally a battery can show fully charged on many instruments but still be a bad battery. Take it down to something like an Autozone and have them do a load test. You could also have a flat spot on the starter that could cause something similar - assuming the solenoid is good...

    • @04poppop
      @04poppop 5 років тому +1

      I have tested battery, its fully charged, original started is spinning when I took it off and tested, but I bought new started motor and its same, spinning like old one but wont move the engine to start

    • @TheWizechatmgr
      @TheWizechatmgr  5 років тому

      @@04poppop what happens if you pull the spark plug and crank it? Does it crank easier (it should...)

    • @04poppop
      @04poppop 5 років тому

      @@TheWizechatmgr I just change old one for new one its same. Didn't try with spark plug out

    • @10minlaterugotdropoed88
      @10minlaterugotdropoed88 4 роки тому

      BublakVTX did you resolve this problem and how ?? Pls reply I got the same

  • @aaronwilkins3373
    @aaronwilkins3373 5 років тому +1

    Hey I got 2013 ninja 650 and my bike doesn’t even attempt to start but if you get lucky it starts no problem usually after like 20 attempts but when it tries it does it no problem

    • @TheWizechatmgr
      @TheWizechatmgr  5 років тому

      First thoughts would be bad starter button, bad solenoid or bad starter - assuming battery and wires are okay.

  • @chrisrippz
    @chrisrippz 5 років тому +2

    Starting problem in my bike. I click the start button and all I get is a single click noise and the lights dim. I can push start the bike and it will start up and but the bike is draining battery as well. Please help

  • @felicianoibardolaza5253
    @felicianoibardolaza5253 3 роки тому +1

    I have a problem with my 2009 gsxr 600 its cranking or winding but not starting.it started after 2 weeks that i havent started i,but it slowly died off after just running for about 30 seconds.then it wouldnt start after that..checked battery,changed sparkplugs,checked fuses,starter motor,fuel pumps working.not showing any code fault aswell..i do really need helppp!:(

    • @TheWizechatmgr
      @TheWizechatmgr  3 роки тому +1

      Do you smell unburnt gas from the exhaust while cranking?

    • @felicianoibardolaza5253
      @felicianoibardolaza5253 3 роки тому +1

      @@TheWizechatmgr not really mate.nothing at all.i had a go at checking tip over sensor too but still just winding and not starting the bike.checked kickstand ,clutch ,on off kill switch too.😫

    • @TheWizechatmgr
      @TheWizechatmgr  3 роки тому +1

      Check your carbs or ful injectors, you must have a fuel or spark issue.

  • @city7053
    @city7053 6 років тому +2

    Tested my starter motor ,also solenoid (even bought a new one and installed it ) she tested good also i found a short to ground checked the cables continuity it beeped so its good i sealed it and reconnected everything and now my starter button is not giving any signals if i put wrench to bypass solenoid motor starts right away And my battery voltage drop to 12.6 from 13.4

    • @city7053
      @city7053 6 років тому +1

      Help please

    • @TheWizechatmgr
      @TheWizechatmgr  6 років тому +1

      Check for continuity from starter button when pressed.

    • @city7053
      @city7053 6 років тому +1

      @@TheWizechatmgr im only geting 12 volt from the wire that goes to the battery and he relay the other one is that got the starter is on zero when start is pressed and wen is not

    • @TheWizechatmgr
      @TheWizechatmgr  6 років тому

      @@city7053 That means you need to check the starter button. See if it has 12v across both terminals when the button is pressed.

  • @Manup2day
    @Manup2day 4 роки тому +2

    CHARLIE SHEEN NARRATING! 😁😎👌

  • @stockton350
    @stockton350 7 років тому +2

    Helpful video. Thanks for sharing.

    • @TheWizechatmgr
      @TheWizechatmgr  7 років тому

      A newer and potentially better one will be on its way in the next week or two. If you're stuck, let me know and I'll give you access to the raw video.

    • @stockton350
      @stockton350 7 років тому +1

      TheWizechatmgr Thanks. I'm working on a 78 kz400 at the moment. Bike starts when I jump the solenoid with a screwdriver, but the start button doesn't seem to be working. I'm not getting 12 volts coming from the harness into the solenoid. There are no kill switches elsewhere so I want to test if it's the button only or the button and a faulty solenoid, since a number of the other components have failed.

    • @tawnywillson945
      @tawnywillson945 7 років тому

      P

  • @imranhussain9963
    @imranhussain9963 3 роки тому +1

    Please help me I have cb 400 aero my bike getting start easily but after it's getting hot fan start bike it's not working than it take 30 min after that it get start easily any body can advice me what I have to do in this situation

    • @TheWizechatmgr
      @TheWizechatmgr  3 роки тому

      Let me make sure I understand this correctly. You start the bike fine when it's cold. After the engine is up to temp it won't start again until it is cool. Is this correct?

  • @IndianaDundee
    @IndianaDundee 4 роки тому +1

    I have an 85 Honda Shadow VT500c. I’m getting a click when I try to start the bike from the (name ?) starter relay, located under the seat, but the bike will not turn over. I have the right Battery and it is new and good. All fuses are good, unless there are fuses I am unaware of.
    Anyone have any ideas???

    • @TheWizechatmgr
      @TheWizechatmgr  4 роки тому +1

      Are you able to turn it over manually by using a wrench on the crank shaft? If so, check the starter motor. If not, you have an internal engine issue that locked it up, and that's no fun.

    • @IndianaDundee
      @IndianaDundee 4 роки тому +1

      TheWizechatmgr I appreciate your reply. I can pop the clutch while the bike is rolling and it will start right up. I’m not very electrically incline but I tried checking the starter relay and I (not to sure of voice) think it’s good. Tried touching the hot to the top post that comes out of my starter and got nothing. Not sure if I’m doing it correctly but I got nothing. So starter, maybe.? Any tips? I know how to use jumper cables to touch start a car starter but I worry I’m doing something wrong with the bike.

    • @TheWizechatmgr
      @TheWizechatmgr  4 роки тому +1

      @@IndianaDundee that's a good sign. That leaves you with the starter most likely being bad. There are youtube videos on how to remove and potentially even repair a starter. My personal opinion is I'd replace it with a new one as that one is likely rather old and ready to die in other ways.

    • @IndianaDundee
      @IndianaDundee 4 роки тому +2

      TheWizechatmgr Again your advice is appreciated. After testing... I tried using an old wrench to jump...across the relay. No action from the starter. Not even a zzzzzing. Lol. It’s sounding like the starter is my culprit for sure. Be safe riding and good luck with your channel. I’ll be hitting the sub after I hit send.

    • @TheWizechatmgr
      @TheWizechatmgr  4 роки тому +1

      @@IndianaDundee Good luck with the repair. Currently fighting with a cylinder with no compression myself. May replace the head and head gasket just to get riding this year.

  • @grantwasham6620
    @grantwasham6620 4 роки тому +2

    OK IF YOUR SO GOOD TRY TO EXPLAIN WHY MY YAMAHA VS 1300 WONT START NO MATTER WHAT I'VE DONE. I JUST GOT BACK FROM A TOUR OF 18 MONTH AND MY DANM BIKE WONT START. A 50 YR OLD U S ARMY LT ASKING FOR HELP BEFORE I START CRYING LIKE I DID A 5 WHEN SOMEONE TOOK MY NOSE RIGHT OFF MY FAC

    • @TheWizechatmgr
      @TheWizechatmgr  4 роки тому +1

      I left you a VM on the number you put in another post. It has a different number to call back on.

    • @grantwasham6620
      @grantwasham6620 4 роки тому +1

      @@TheWizechatmgr SORRY I MISSED YOUR CALLS. I CALLED YOU BACK AND LEFT A MESSAGE .
      AND I DELETED WHAT YOU ASKED, I'VE GOTTEN 49 CALLS TO DO WITH NOTHING BUT WAR QUESTION. TEXT FIRST IF POSSIBLE. THANK YOU AGAIN AND FOR THE FUTURE TOO, BE BLESSED

    • @TheWizechatmgr
      @TheWizechatmgr  4 роки тому

      @@grantwasham6620 how late will you be up? I don't expect to get home until 10 PM Eastern

    • @grantwasham6620
      @grantwasham6620 4 роки тому +1

      @@TheWizechatmgr I got it started. The mice or rsts in our area eat through a set of wires that ofcourse had to be the wires for the kill switch that ran under the gas tank. They grounded out on them selve. But do know I appreciate that someone out there still has old valves and the cooth I was raised on. My father was a 33 yr Navy vet who was born into the true war of our time . WWII , he was 16 and lied to join because of the times, and he said the only thing that a man has to give away to a stranger is advice and a helping had. You are the first person who has shown me this in over 30 yrs who I've never met. Thanks again

    • @TheWizechatmgr
      @TheWizechatmgr  4 роки тому

      Try calling me Monday at ~10 AM. I'd love to have a chat.

  • @Lazaro-138
    @Lazaro-138 6 років тому +2

    Can some one please help me, I am only getting twelve volts from one of the two I bought a new battery new relay start and still only getting 12v from one of the terminals. The other one don't do nothing. My bike used to do one click with the old now it does multiple clicks but no turn over

    • @TheWizechatmgr
      @TheWizechatmgr  6 років тому

      +Walter V could be a bad starter or bad solenoid. Have you tested the resistance on the coil of the starter solenoid?

    • @TheWizechatmgr
      @TheWizechatmgr  6 років тому

      Did you have any luck figuring out if it is the solenoid or the starter button?

    • @toogoodderek1010
      @toogoodderek1010 5 років тому

      Walter V this is exactly what my bike does, when I got my new starter relay I don’t know what to do.

    • @sebastianklapprat9964
      @sebastianklapprat9964 4 роки тому

      TheWizechatmgr my bike clicks once when trying to start sounds coming from the relay I think is their any way to start it without it working

    • @benjamindickey9431
      @benjamindickey9431 3 роки тому

      Check brushes in motor, maybe worn out

  • @t.a.kalsekar
    @t.a.kalsekar 6 років тому +2

    My Ninja250 just makes a tick noise when I press the button. Battery is fine, tried another battery. Tested the starter motor by jumping it directly. Relay also seems to be fine. Can someone guide me on this?

    • @TheWizechatmgr
      @TheWizechatmgr  6 років тому

      Sounds like the starter may be bound up. I'd remove it and then try activating it while it is not in place. Make sure to run a ground wire between it and the chassis or negative terminal of the battery. If it spins then it's likely the mechanical portion of the starter that engages it to the flywheel. If it doesn't you likely need a new starter. Good luck =)

  • @janusschutte
    @janusschutte 3 роки тому +1

    do one more please, but this time, hold still your camera

    • @TheWizechatmgr
      @TheWizechatmgr  Рік тому

      This may finally be happening in the next year or so.

  • @ItsAlwaysTech
    @ItsAlwaysTech 6 років тому +3

    Anyone have problems with starter relay solenoid?

    • @TheWizechatmgr
      @TheWizechatmgr  6 років тому

      Cvpi Kid hopefully not :)

    • @toogoodderek1010
      @toogoodderek1010 5 років тому +1

      I think I do, all I hear is tik tik tik when I try to start it and the lights get dim when I press the start button

    • @TheWizechatmgr
      @TheWizechatmgr  5 років тому

      Solenoid may not be allowing proper current through or the battery may be on its way out - assuming no mechanical issues

  • @123gazs
    @123gazs 7 років тому +1

    What happends if you don't have any fuses on your relay ?

    • @TheWizechatmgr
      @TheWizechatmgr  7 років тому

      +Lifeintheslowlane unsure, haven't run into that yet.

    • @123gazs
      @123gazs 7 років тому +2

      Cheers im having issues with my 125 when i click the starter buttion nothing happends other than a zapping noise,

    • @TheWizechatmgr
      @TheWizechatmgr  7 років тому

      Is the zapping noise happening at the solenoid/relay or at the starter? If at the relay you "could" try straight baring it with a screwdriver. I don't cover how to do this as someone may not know how to do it and cause a fire on their bike. Is the battery in good or new condition as a weak battery may sound like that as well, though usually you'll just get a click or a buzz.

    • @123gazs
      @123gazs 7 років тому +1

      The battery is sitting just between the low and high levels, its coming from the Relay, has a black cable and red cable and it goes to a fuse. will take a video tomorrow buddy

    • @TheWizechatmgr
      @TheWizechatmgr  7 років тому

      Cool, I work nights & weekends on Eastern US time. I'll make sure to look for it.

  • @steviepii
    @steviepii 4 роки тому +8

    Starter switches:
    Sidestand
    Neutral
    Kill
    Clutch

  • @businessman953
    @businessman953 5 років тому +1

    I want to ask you can eliminate the stater solenoid?

    • @TheWizechatmgr
      @TheWizechatmgr  5 років тому +1

      No, too much current draw for the switch...

  • @leemorley5610
    @leemorley5610 3 роки тому

    If all of these things are ok what else could it be

    • @TheWizechatmgr
      @TheWizechatmgr  3 роки тому

      Depends on the year, make and model of the bike.

    • @leemorley5610
      @leemorley5610 3 роки тому

      @@TheWizechatmgr 1998 Suzuki bandit mk1 it just cut out while riding and everything electric wise works on the bike but the electric start

    • @TheWizechatmgr
      @TheWizechatmgr  3 роки тому

      @@leemorley5610 Do you get power to the actual starter when you hold the start button down with all the safeties satisfied?

    • @leemorley5610
      @leemorley5610 3 роки тому

      @@TheWizechatmgr no all the safety switches all working correctly but no power to relay for starter

    • @TheWizechatmgr
      @TheWizechatmgr  3 роки тому

      @@leemorley5610 you've tracked the power for each of the safety switches? If so, then it's a break or short from the final safety switch in the harness to the starter solenoid.

  • @hubbabubba426
    @hubbabubba426 6 місяців тому

    my bike is a 02 suzuki marauder

  • @mr.partyinaboxxx4560
    @mr.partyinaboxxx4560 5 років тому +1

    Im only getting 5 volts to the starter with the start button depressed. everything ive check over twice, even put a new harness on. checked the switches, grounds, a new battery.. im lost on what it could be, the entire starting system has been replaced to confirmed to work, anyone have any advice ?

    • @TheWizechatmgr
      @TheWizechatmgr  5 років тому

      Can you elaborate as to what and how you have previously tested the components?

    • @mr.partyinaboxxx4560
      @mr.partyinaboxxx4560 5 років тому +1

      TheWizechatmgr I followed the diagnosis tests in the service manual A-Z.

    • @TheWizechatmgr
      @TheWizechatmgr  5 років тому

      What voltage do you get at starter with starter disconnected at the positive wire?

    • @mr.partyinaboxxx4560
      @mr.partyinaboxxx4560 5 років тому +1

      TheWizechatmgr with the wire disconnected from the starter I get 12v to the connection. Is Something inside the starter causing resistance? I’ve switched the starter, which was used to start another bike and works fine. So why when installed on this bike it reads 5v?

    • @mr.partyinaboxxx4560
      @mr.partyinaboxxx4560 5 років тому +1

      TheWizechatmgr is it possible that it could be mechanical? I can jump the starter on my other vfr.. the motor cranks strong. With jumper cables and a battery I connect the leads to the starter connected on the (problem bike) and nothing.. I can hear a small click. Like if it’s hitting the gears but not enough to spin the motor.. I’ve cranked the motor by hand it’s not seized and just a few months ago it turned over just fine.. I did take the oil cover off on the right side. Did I reinstall it incorrectly or does the starter motor gear need to be specifically lined up with the starter clutch? I took the spare starter motor and connected the main starter wire to it. With the starter motor outside the case.. and connected it spins right up with lots of torque. Also it’s around 10 volts under load (battery was a little undercharge 12.2 volts) so the starter won’t work under load? Or is it locked up and the load is too much?

  • @loganqc1309
    @loganqc1309 4 роки тому +2

    How to bypass a starter

    • @TheWizechatmgr
      @TheWizechatmgr  4 роки тому +3

      If you can get directly to the positive side of the starter you can directly power it from the battery bypassing the solenoid. Otherwise, you can attempt a run and bump-start by running the bike down the street in 1st gear with the clutch in, when you get as fast as you can with the bike in the on position, pop the clutch and hope to god it starts. Safety should be evaluated before doing any of these methods.

    • @loganqc1309
      @loganqc1309 4 роки тому +1

      Alright perfect, but to bump start a really heavy Yamaha Virago 1100Cc that's suicidal xD,,,, plus I'm only 18 so to run start it I gotta be way stronger, but the first option can I get more information please ?

    • @TheWizechatmgr
      @TheWizechatmgr  4 роки тому +1

      @@loganqc1309 not sure about your exact bike but typically the starter only has one or two leads going to it (heavy electrical wire.) If you only have one it's going to be the positive - if you can get a large thick wire similar to it, sometimes you can jumper it to the positive side of the battery to where the existing wire comes from the solenoid to the starter.

    • @loganqc1309
      @loganqc1309 4 роки тому +1

      @@TheWizechatmgr Alright Man thanks, I really appreciate your help and support

    • @TheWizechatmgr
      @TheWizechatmgr  4 роки тому +1

      @@loganqc1309 let me know how it goes... If the starter is bad, it won't help most likely...

  • @jamilettportillo9960
    @jamilettportillo9960 6 років тому +2

    You only will have 12volts from one cable the one than come from the battery the other goes to the stater you can't have voltage all the time. Because the bike will be craning all the time. He don't know what he's talking about

    • @TheWizechatmgr
      @TheWizechatmgr  6 років тому

      It says when the starter button is depressed. Then it goes into checking the coil on their solenoid...

  • @jessemartinez3825
    @jessemartinez3825 3 роки тому

    This video pisses me off I don’t know what side of the damn bike