CW I have noted this before, once when you were with Lester and instructing with the ifr stuff, and now with your police buddies. You are a fish in water when you are "instructing" and teaching, very calm and focused. You are a natural
Really important lessons. Despite Movers minimal time in rotary he has important knowledge from his military career and training with Lester to remind you check, check and check again and if its not looking right it’s time to stop and evaluate.
So many people commenting without watching the full video. He's not instructing, he's acting as a safety pilot and they are testing a device for training how to respond to IMC conditions. He has a CPL H, and is perfectly qualified to act as a safety pilot.
CW I hope you worked a deal with this company because your real world demonstration with police, etc is invaluable. They need to write you a check or have you on payroll
Very interesting device. Wish we had something like that when I learned back in the day. Also, great discussion during the flight. Thanks Mover, very informative. Take Care!
That hood is awesome. I just first saw a video on it posted 3 days ago by helicopter online ground school and now watching other videos of yours, came across this one and see it from 2 years ago lol. Weird how it wasn’t random, but still ended up being related.
I'm curious about the discussion that ensued when Greg encountered the inadvertent IMC. From my perspective you have two options. First, you can take immediate action to regain VFR (descend, IF SAFE to do so or turn back.) Failing that, I THINK the only reasonable option is the one Greg took. Climb and declare an emergency as soon as you've established good instrument control. If you're in the clouds without a clearance, it's either an emergency or a violation....and I think we all prefer the former :o). I've had this happen to me a couple of times on SAR missions, flying fixed wing in marginal weather, and practicing in advance like you guys are doing here really helps. I have found that ATC is pretty understanding when you are doing something important (like SAR) and you get yourself into the crud inadvertently. I like this electronic "hood" a lot. Is it something relatively affordable? My own organization might be convinced to get one for the troops to use. Great video! Thanks, Mover! Edit: When you initiate that climb, my theory of the situation is to go to the lowest safe VFR altitude, because ATC won't likely have IFR traffic assigned there. You could still hit an aircraft that is climbing or descending, but a VFR altitude will likely give you more time to get a plan together without much danger of a collision.
There is no such thing as a lowest safe VFR altitude. You are either under the VFR where you see and avoid obstacles and terrain visually, or you are not. If you are not VFR you must be at or above the lowest safe altitude for that sector unless you are carrying out a published procedure. This is where pilots screw up a lot, when they try to mix VFR and IFR under some hybrid rules of their own making that do not exist. EDIT: I think you are suggesting climb to a VFR cruising altitude, al-be-it in cloud, right? Maybe, that's legal once you declare an emergency you can do whatever you want.
Spent about half my instrument training on this device pre-launch beta. It was a breath of fresh air for someone like me who doesn't like the whole transition to foggles. This is way more immersive. I appreciate my school for seeing the benefit and investing in the development of this product. Very much looking forward to my CFII with it. Thanks for the video Mover. This is great content.
I like the conversations between fellow pilots about how they might react given different stressful situations while in the air. Simulating what IFR could do to you while discussing with other pilots, can only help each other by exploring ideas and sharpening how they might think to approach those situations. That should help when y'all ACTUALLY talk to your certified flight instructors about the instructed ways to deal with those scenarios vs what pilots think are the right things to do. ;) Thanks for sharing this, Mover!
HC just has such a great air crew - talk about NOT being a douche! That was interesting as it seems to take qualified pilots back to earlier in their training. I thought Steph was more experienced than you Mover, yet you seemed to be in control, so to speak, tho it wasn't your ship and you weren't wearing the helmet. I really like this style of vid. Cheers mate.
I'd just mention, during the 2nd instrument approach the pilot said she would use a higher MDA than published. If I'm not mistaken 200' was briefed by Mover as the MDA and I think the pilot nominated not below 300' in her approach brief. I don't think this is a good plan. Firstly, it's not giving you the best opportunity to get VFR if you are staying 100' higher than the MDA. And secondly, the practical test standard requires you to be no higher than 50' above the MDA at the MAPT. If she only got to 300' at MAPT that would be a fail on a check ride. I was pleased to hear of fuel/endurance by the 2nd pilot in the plan for IIMC, the 1st pilot made no mention of fuel in his IIMC plan. And finally, nobody mentioned the chartered LSALT during their IIMC action plan. You should climb to LSALT at Vbroc on IIMC, not to some random height of your choosing. Mover was pretty good in his role on this sortie.
There is nothing wrong with having higher minimums than the published ones. Most commonly yes, this would be a decision that you make on the ground looking at whatever the conditions are wind, ceilings, proximity of severe whether or what not. But this scenario is definitely not for the perspective of an IFR current pilot flying a current tech IFR equipped aircraft. This was for someone with no instrument training or as Stephanie seemed to indicate, no currency and rusty skills. That lack of willingness to push it to the limits could be the difference between life and death in a real situation. Its apparent that both of these HCSO pilots have IFR training...Mover didnt have to explain anything to them and they more or less could fly the approaches but I don't get the feeling they were current (or the bird certified or itself current for it maybe).
@@evlgamr Not getting to MDA might keep you in a life or death IIMC situation. Get to MDA, get visual, is the safest option. As I mentioned, 100' above MDA on an IFR check ride is a fail.
You can have higher minimums than published. The Air Force does this. 700-2, 500-1.5, 300-1 based on experience. MDA is also for a non-precision approach (non-ILS in airline speak), a precision approach would use decision height/decision altitude - which is what they were doing. You can certainly decide to go around early. No, you won't fail a checkride.
@@CWLemoine The FAA ATP PTS pass/fail criteria, at the MAPT you must be at the MDA -0 > +50' tolerance. The examiner is not going to give you better weather than that. In any event, if IIMC you want to be at the MDA and not above (or below) it at the MAPT to get visual. It's silly doing a GA just because you are 100' higher than you might otherwise be to get out of IIMC. The best plan to find VMC once establish on an approach is always to get to MDA as early as possible on the final approach profile. But if you've declared an emergency you can do whatever you want, of course.
Hey mover can you do a review of the new top gun Maverick trailer that came out yesterday? I could swear towards the end of the trailer @ 2:02 mark Maverick is going up against an F-22 or SU-57?
@@CWLemoine forgive me sir you didn’t I do know you are a Safety Pilot though and I just did an assumption and we all know what happens when that goes on 😉.
I think I made it pretty clear that it isn't. That being said, there's nothing wrong with it either. No one is logging dual or using this training for an additional rating. There is no requirement to sit in silence as a safety pilot.
@@CWLemoine you may not be a Instructor Mover, BUT damn you sounded good and professional. I would happily have you as my instructor any time. Absolutely love following your journey.
Nothing's going on. They used it once. I sent it back. The next event that I may participate with them is spring break where they do a lot of flying for law enforcement missions.
Most of the mask requirements have been dropped here in the US. Also mover lives in the southern Part of the US as do I and they was one the first areas of the country to drop the mask requirements
CW I have noted this before, once when you were with Lester and instructing with the ifr stuff, and now with your police buddies. You are a fish in water when you are "instructing" and teaching, very calm and focused. You are a natural
Well done Mover. It's nice seeing Stephanie again - she's a natural, an excellent communicator.
I agree!
Really important lessons. Despite Movers minimal time in rotary he has important knowledge from his military career and training with Lester to remind you check, check and check again and if its not looking right it’s time to stop and evaluate.
Over 1500 hours flying Kiowas...great bird!
Air Cav!
What a cool IMC training hood! Man…technology has moved in leaps an bounds since I got my Instrument ticket waaaay back in ‘82.
Just enjoy seeing frank discussions between experienced pilots from different perspectives.
So many people commenting without watching the full video. He's not instructing, he's acting as a safety pilot and they are testing a device for training how to respond to IMC conditions. He has a CPL H, and is perfectly qualified to act as a safety pilot.
CW I hope you worked a deal with this company because your real world demonstration with police, etc is invaluable. They need to write you a check or have you on payroll
Very cool, the Sheriff pilots were pros who saw the training advantage.
Very interesting device. Wish we had something like that when I learned back in the day. Also, great discussion during the flight. Thanks Mover, very informative. Take Care!
That hood is awesome. I just first saw a video on it posted 3 days ago by helicopter online ground school and now watching other videos of yours, came across this one and see it from 2 years ago lol. Weird how it wasn’t random, but still ended up being related.
Excellent video Mover! One can never have enough practice...
Great video Mover, very interesting to see how the two pilots react differently to reduced visibility, seem like a great device for training!
I'm curious about the discussion that ensued when Greg encountered the inadvertent IMC. From my perspective you have two options. First, you can take immediate action to regain VFR (descend, IF SAFE to do so or turn back.) Failing that, I THINK the only reasonable option is the one Greg took. Climb and declare an emergency as soon as you've established good instrument control. If you're in the clouds without a clearance, it's either an emergency or a violation....and I think we all prefer the former :o). I've had this happen to me a couple of times on SAR missions, flying fixed wing in marginal weather, and practicing in advance like you guys are doing here really helps. I have found that ATC is pretty understanding when you are doing something important (like SAR) and you get yourself into the crud inadvertently. I like this electronic "hood" a lot. Is it something relatively affordable? My own organization might be convinced to get one for the troops to use. Great video! Thanks, Mover!
Edit: When you initiate that climb, my theory of the situation is to go to the lowest safe VFR altitude, because ATC won't likely have IFR traffic assigned there. You could still hit an aircraft that is climbing or descending, but a VFR altitude will likely give you more time to get a plan together without much danger of a collision.
There is no such thing as a lowest safe VFR altitude. You are either under the VFR where you see and avoid obstacles and terrain visually, or you are not. If you are not VFR you must be at or above the lowest safe altitude for that sector unless you are carrying out a published procedure. This is where pilots screw up a lot, when they try to mix VFR and IFR under some hybrid rules of their own making that do not exist.
EDIT: I think you are suggesting climb to a VFR cruising altitude, al-be-it in cloud, right? Maybe, that's legal once you declare an emergency you can do whatever you want.
It's always cool how much people aren't prepared and how much they appreciate the experience.
Spent about half my instrument training on this device pre-launch beta. It was a breath of fresh air for someone like me who doesn't like the whole transition to foggles. This is way more immersive. I appreciate my school for seeing the benefit and investing in the development of this product. Very much looking forward to my CFII with it. Thanks for the video Mover. This is great content.
Glad to hear it Jordan!
I like the conversations between fellow pilots about how they might react given different stressful situations while in the air. Simulating what IFR could do to you while discussing with other pilots, can only help each other by exploring ideas and sharpening how they might think to approach those situations. That should help when y'all ACTUALLY talk to your certified flight instructors about the instructed ways to deal with those scenarios vs what pilots think are the right things to do. ;) Thanks for sharing this, Mover!
This is soooo awesome. I could watch this for hours!!!
17:04 "I'm not getting out of this. But I'm not gonna pull a Kobe". Duuuuude. :D
That's when I punched the 'like' button. :D
Damn, you are at home in anything in the air. Be competent. Be confident. Don’t be a douche.
Love it.
Anything with HCSO is always good content. They got them fancy helos 🚁🚁 Great video Mover
I sense a Top Gun 2 trailer reaction coming soon.
You just keep flying over my house but never stopping in to say hi.
love these videos with the heli crew
LEO here love our eyes in the sky folks!
Hi Stephanie nice to see you again! Mover you are in your element!
Glad we got another video to watch. I was getting worried….“what’s up with Mover, it’s been awhile“?
My boi Greg doing me proud!!! Love that guy!!!
Still the best looking helicopter ever made
That's an AWESOME tool!
HC just has such a great air crew - talk about NOT being a douche! That was interesting as it seems to take qualified pilots back to earlier in their training. I thought Steph was more experienced than you Mover, yet you seemed to be in control, so to speak, tho it wasn't your ship and you weren't wearing the helmet. I really like this style of vid. Cheers mate.
Good Stuff dude...the cover your ass “Oh and This is definitely NOT instruction” part had me laughing 😂 SO when are you starting CFI/CFII training ? 😆
Ah, the 58A. Slow, cramped, and reliable.
I'd just mention, during the 2nd instrument approach the pilot said she would use a higher MDA than published. If I'm not mistaken 200' was briefed by Mover as the MDA and I think the pilot nominated not below 300' in her approach brief. I don't think this is a good plan. Firstly, it's not giving you the best opportunity to get VFR if you are staying 100' higher than the MDA. And secondly, the practical test standard requires you to be no higher than 50' above the MDA at the MAPT. If she only got to 300' at MAPT that would be a fail on a check ride. I was pleased to hear of fuel/endurance by the 2nd pilot in the plan for IIMC, the 1st pilot made no mention of fuel in his IIMC plan. And finally, nobody mentioned the chartered LSALT during their IIMC action plan. You should climb to LSALT at Vbroc on IIMC, not to some random height of your choosing. Mover was pretty good in his role on this sortie.
There is nothing wrong with having higher minimums than the published ones. Most commonly yes, this would be a decision that you make on the ground looking at whatever the conditions are wind, ceilings, proximity of severe whether or what not. But this scenario is definitely not for the perspective of an IFR current pilot flying a current tech IFR equipped aircraft. This was for someone with no instrument training or as Stephanie seemed to indicate, no currency and rusty skills. That lack of willingness to push it to the limits could be the difference between life and death in a real situation. Its apparent that both of these HCSO pilots have IFR training...Mover didnt have to explain anything to them and they more or less could fly the approaches but I don't get the feeling they were current (or the bird certified or itself current for it maybe).
@@evlgamr Not getting to MDA might keep you in a life or death IIMC situation. Get to MDA, get visual, is the safest option. As I mentioned, 100' above MDA on an IFR check ride is a fail.
You can have higher minimums than published. The Air Force does this. 700-2, 500-1.5, 300-1 based on experience. MDA is also for a non-precision approach (non-ILS in airline speak), a precision approach would use decision height/decision altitude - which is what they were doing. You can certainly decide to go around early. No, you won't fail a checkride.
@@CWLemoine The FAA ATP PTS pass/fail criteria, at the MAPT you must be at the MDA -0 > +50' tolerance. The examiner is not going to give you better weather than that. In any event, if IIMC you want to be at the MDA and not above (or below) it at the MAPT to get visual. It's silly doing a GA just because you are 100' higher than you might otherwise be to get out of IIMC. The best plan to find VMC once establish on an approach is always to get to MDA as early as possible on the final approach profile. But if you've declared an emergency you can do whatever you want, of course.
We weren’t flying an MDA.
boy @mover, moving on up huh?, first pilot in training to instructor for shierff helicopter and you move fast too man!. 👏 👏 👏 🚁 🚓 💯
Great videos.
Thank you!
@@CWLemoine which gives you more thrill?
Helicopter, F18 or F16?
Another nice one my friend, please keep em coming.
thanks mover
Weird seeing an OH-58 without the MMS
Awesome stuff!! that icarus awesome
It must be a bit weird for them to have Mover as an instructor - when he was a learning pilot hanging with them just a while ago . :P
I wish there was a way to see what the pilot is seeing through the Icarus device.
Check out my other video on it.
You’ve got a WIZZO!
Very cool..
Mover, the Icarus device looks like a great step forward in IMC training. How comfortable is it to wear? Sure beats Foggles.
Damn $2k for that hood. But the ability to do what that hood does is cool. That would be interesting to try one day.
Just the pilot helmet for the F35 military jet is 400k
*$1,500
@@ICARUSDevices for the full setup they are using is $2k.
Hahaha Great acronym!
Are you going to do a mishap video on the Rowlett Texas helicopter incident?
Hey mover can you do a review of the new top gun Maverick trailer that came out yesterday? I could swear towards the end of the trailer @ 2:02 mark Maverick is going up against an F-22 or SU-57?
wait, so is mover an instructor now? im confused. i thought he just got hiis commercial :|
Have him do that near buildings
Never a dull Mover Video I am totally impressed by this. How did you become an instructor though?
Where did I say or indicate that I'm an instructor?
Safety pilot....
@@CWLemoine it certainly looks like instruction
@@CWLemoine forgive me sir you didn’t I do know you are a Safety Pilot though and I just did an assumption and we all know what happens when that goes on 😉.
I think I made it pretty clear that it isn't. That being said, there's nothing wrong with it either. No one is logging dual or using this training for an additional rating. There is no requirement to sit in silence as a safety pilot.
Good morning
Good evening, I hope you like dreaming. You live to learn, and you learn to live, it's positive and negative. I can't sleep, but I dream big!
You are an instructor already ... Wow .. rock on
I am not an instructor.
@@CWLemoine Ah! This was a coop training. Got it. Great video and presentation. Fly safe!
The thing that's coming up with lots of flight time? Hmm, interestin'
I don't follow.
@@CWLemoine 27:00 Unless I'm jumping to conclusions?
What’s interesting?
@10:54 DYING hahaha
Did you pass The Bag?
Im intrested in how these fog visors, fog up. What kinda tech is behind these simple looking things
Polymer Dispersed Liquid Crystal, PDLC Film
Is inadvertently entering IMC conditions more dangerous in a plane or helicopter?
Helicopter
Wait so are you know working for the Sheriff and flying for them?
Nope.
I don't know mover. Last time I took my dog to the vet he sent him home with one of those ICARUS thingies around his neck.
Jokes aside, they looked like they enjoyed that "discussion", not training. I'm always impressed by those HCSO pilots, especially Stephanie.
Sir can you react to the FA50 Golden Eagle. Watching from Philippines
I didn't realize you were an instrument instructor for helicopters? I would love to earn my PPL from Mover lol.
I'm not. Where did you get that?
There is a new top gun trailer they are saying this may is the movie release let’s hope lol
Are you a CFI?
Nope.
I'm a little confused I thought you were in training, are you training people now? I think I may be a little behind on what you are up to now.
I took my commercial checkride in February. I am not an instructor. Nor did I claim to be.
@@CWLemoine you may not be a Instructor Mover, BUT damn you sounded good and professional.
I would happily have you as my instructor any time.
Absolutely love following your journey.
@@CWLemoine I'm not trying to insinuate anything just wondering what's going on with the device you're using with the sheriff's department pilot
Nothing's going on. They used it once. I sent it back. The next event that I may participate with them is spring break where they do a lot of flying for law enforcement missions.
The pilot's Covid mask doesn't look very effective to me
Most of the mask requirements have been dropped here in the US. Also mover lives in the southern Part of the US as do I and they was one the first areas of the country to drop the mask requirements
Training Pilot Mover? Cool
UA-cam channel One Media have a new topgun trailer called top gun 2 trailer 3 new 2022.
way to not be an instructor, i guess good safety training can be translated to any situation
How did you become an instructor so fast ? Wow !
I am not an instructor in helicopters, nor did I claim to be.
Let's go Brandon indeed
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