Kurt Cobain was a rare genius. It’s simple and not hard to understand. Listen to him in interviews. He was 27 years old speaking with so much wisdom. It’s not complicated. Nirvana is amazing band that will be remembered 100 years from now.
All his Demos tell a story too, if they had fully released songs like Do Re Mi, Burn the Rain or She only Lies he wouldve had another hit album, such a great artist.
The thing that still amazes me about Kurt Cobain was how good he was at expressing himself. Whether spoken or written, Kurt always had something to say that was interesting. He was clearly extremely intelligent and more perceptive than anybody his age had a right to be. The fact he was driven to self-destruction at such a young age, is a sad loss to the whole world.
@@folksurvival I grew up in the 1960's and '70's, was the 1990's really that long ago? It might be true that more people had slightly better "people skills" in those long lost days of yore pre internet (it only existed c. 1995 after all) but I hadn't noticed how much more thoughtful the 20'ish folk were than they are now.
What Nirvana did better than most bands do was they were 100% dedicated to what they were doing. They never wavered & they never compromised. It was complete, 24/7, balls to the wall dedication & passion for the art that they wanted to portray & perform. What you saw with them was what you got. Take it or leave it, they did it their way & on their terms. Pure integrity.
I love Pearl Jam and the others seattle bands, but Nirvana had something different and special, like The Beatles. I can't explain what it is with words, maybe a combination of songs, style, image, meaning.
Nirvana’s songs were the main thing that made them great. And I feel like Kurt and Krist are both underestimated as players. I started playing guitar in the early nineties as a young kid and the beauty of punk rock is that it’s something a kid can get into. It’s not technically challenging, it’s more physical and visceral. That was really inspiring to me.
The reason why Alice in Chains was able to keep going was that the primary songwriter (Jerry Cantrell) is very much alive and still working. You couldn't have Nirvana without Kurt Cobain.
And Alice in chains has only had one real hit since Layne died. The older AIC blows Nirvana out of the water now. Just look at documentaries on Kurt Cobain and documentaries on Layne Staley. The numbers are obvious. Almost every time they sing live now, they play their setlist with the songs that were sang by Layne.
@@DannyLeeOGT In what way do you measure "blowing Nirvana out of the water?" AIC would be barely a blip on the radar if it wasn't for Nirvana's historical breakthrough.
@@gregoryandrus5322 Soundgarden and AIC were before Nirvana I say that because Nirvana fans nowadays are even tired of the music. There was nothing Timeless about it they blew up one big burst and it was over.
@@gregoryandrus5322for me personally, AIC is just something that ill never get tired of. For one their music is more diverse than nirvana. Plenty of their songs sound a lot different than other songs. Nirvana songs for the most part are all pretty similar to each other. Each Nirvana song is very similar to the every other song on the same album. At most the sound changes a bit with each album, and even then, the change isnt as significant as the change between each AIC song. Because of this, for me personally, Nirvana loses its magic pretty fast. On the other hand, i can listen to an AIC album multiple times a day, often doing this for days on end, and they still sound amazing every time i listen to them. AIC is also more unique. For one, Laynes voice is extremely unique, and no one can really replicate it to the point where its indistinguishable from the real Layne. Kurts voice on the other hand is a lot more simple, and a lot of people can replicate it near perfectly. This also applies to just the overall sound. Nirvana’s sound isnt all that unique. Its very simple and doesnt differ a ton from the bands that came before Nirvana. You can find bands out there that sound noticeable similar, both from before and after Nirvana. On the other hand AIC is really unique. Ive never heard a band that sounds like AIC, neither from before or after AIC. Also if you look at it objectively, AIC is a lot more technically skilled and complex than Nirvana, which also plays a part in why AIC sounds more unique, and also why their songs sound significantly different from each other. The song writing is also WAY better than Nirvana. Its deeper, darker, and just overall has more meaning and is a lot better than Nirvana. Theres some other reasons and i maybe couldve explained a bit better, but off the top of my head this is mainly why i think AIC is WAY better than Nirvana. I do like Nirvana ofc and im not saying theyre bad or anything. To be fair though, ill also say that Nirvana and AIC are a lot different from each other. Theyre different genres, have different influences, and different goals/ideas when it comes to their music. I honestly dont even like to compare them because i find it unfair. I dont think theyre similar enough to really even be compared. The only reason theyre seen as similar, is because they were both rock bands from seattle in the early 90s, so they all got lumped together under the term “grunge”. People see grunge as a genre, but in reality its just a scene. All of the more well known grunge bands differ a lot from each other, and their music explores different genres/styles. To me, comparing nirvana and AIC is like comparing the beatles to the doors or something. I mean you can compare them if you want, but the beatles and the doors are way different from each other for the most part, similar to how AIC and Nirvana are way different from each other, and its hard to say in good faith that one band is better than the other, when they arent all that similar to each other, other than the fact that they existed at the same time, and in the case of AIC and Nirvana, were from the same “scene” that happened to blow up.
Kurt was a musical genius. Lyrically he was poetic, cryptic and clever. You can take his lyrics literally or infer them how you like. The songs are very easy to hum too. Lovely rhymes and interesting combinations of words. I remember a point when hipsters pretended to not like or listen to Nirvana because Kurt was gone and they were too mainstream. Pretended that they were over it and only liked Neutral Milk Hotel, Fugazi or etc. Nirvana are a band you love for life. Its like The Beatles, Hendrix, Bob Dylan and Bob Marley. Universal and very much representative of its era. Nirvana is one of the greatest bands of all time
im a 14 yo gen z and ive been listening to them since 12, i absolutely love nirvana. cant believe how theyre still not as relevant as they were now. but because of me, 2 of my best friends listen to nirvana too. its amazing.
That is the absolute coolest thing with the gen z.. your curiosity and your ability to go trough history and old memories to find great bands like nirvana.
@@Ken-Morten im generally just a fan of rock music, passed on from my dad.... i started with bon jovi, gnr and now nirvana. i love other grunge bands like AIC, Soundgarden, Hole and other than grunge, linkin park. ik other bands from other rock subgenres but im not really i to them even though they're really great.🤘🏻
That’s really rad bro’ I’m stoked that u and your friends like them’ I’m 43 now bro and it’s just so rad to c the bands music go full circle’ nirvana were one of my influences to help push me with my session work etc’ keep being u dude 💪✌️
when i was a kid i remember listening to many nirvana songs in the car with my dad as he would sometime sing along with them and my dad had loved nirvana back when they were thriving and still to this day he listens to them and loves them. he tells me that even today listening to their songs are almost refreshing. many artists today do the lowest bare minimum for music and almost don’t seem to care and only want fame. kurt was doing his own thing with good morals with the music. the expression he expressed was remarkable and amazing. nirvana was is and always a banger. in every way it is nostalgic and beautiful.
Kurt ultimately felt dismayed about many aspects of stardom. He went through a crowd at one of his concerts and saw a couple kids actually shooting up smack - they said "See Kurt, we're just like you!" This shocked and dismayed him and i think it really stuck with him for the rest of his days. He never wanted to be any kind of role model but for him it was unavoidable, and he hated that part of celebrity -
Im almost forty and seems like Nirvana had a big resurgence, when i was a teen it was years after grunge had peaked. I remember when i got my smile face t shirt was hard to come by back then, now it is so popular that my better have got same shirt for our kid recently at Walmart.
I'm around the same age and I also find Nirvana's resurgence wild. It gladdens my heart to hear Gen Z embracing a lot of bands such as Nirvana who meant so much to me growing up in the '90s, but it's also a very strange sensation when somebody like Kurt becomes legendary & almost mythical in status posthumously 30 years later.
There is an audio of Kurt talking about our generation of teenagers who are going to stay on cell phones, he was really right so he did what he had to do
He didn't have to do that. If he did that. Not 100% convinced. But as someone who's had problems with opioids, and has gone through multiple withdrawals, I totally get how hopeless things can seem. During withdrawals, you can't even escape the torture by sleeping, cuz you can't sleep. Try being tortured for more than 22 hours a day for 10 consecutive days. Feels like years. 😭
Yeah but Courtney was Kurts Yoko Ono for sure. Yes Kurt was the lyricist and the focal point. And I believe give credit where credit is due. But after Courtney was done hypnotizing Kurt with all her (drugs and charm??) She complained until Kurt was receiving 75% of the income! Money meant nothing to Kurt, except I'm sure he enjoyed not couch hoping anymore. But 25% off what the largest band in the world at the time was making...split between 2 is an insult. Then here comes Pat Smear! (Imagine having that name 😅) So 3 people now have to split a quarter of the profit. Pat was brought on because Kurt started forgetting different chords among other things. So Kurt's personal problems caused the remaining members to make even less money.
So perfect how you quoted Rick beato. We've known that Kurt was a genious for Centurys, but Rick actually went ahead and proved it showing how complex Cobains compositions actually were, with key changes mid riff and multiple modal changes within a single song, from someone who never bothered to learn a scale.
I think that he was definitely doing the punk thing of understating how hard he worked. Krist Novoselic later admitted that they treated their eight and nine hour rehearsal sessions as more serious than any job. Unfortunately, too many never saw the skill behind the simplicity and never got better because they thought it was counterproductive.
I got my first of the 11 copy's of bleach i own today's in feb 1990i still have it (cd) watching nirvana blow up and rule to kurts death ..still hurts me today.. but i love seeing new nirvana fans even the one's who...like to sing along..
Its a tough question, they came out at exactly the right time where we were all lost and starting to find other ways to express ourselves. We grew with them and the journey was hard but they got us through. I dont think there is another group at this moment in time that will have that effect apart from Taylor swift and the young generation of kids who have been told the world is a bad place. The band will live for ever, we move on and change but put the albums on again and we go straight back.. and thats the mark of genius
no.... the timing NOW Is not that, but they are still popular.... you answered the question FOR THAT TIME, not why they are still relevant to people nwo
Not quite ahead of their time. Kurt was a very talented singer & songwriter who blended punk rock with the riffage & heaviness of metal and the structure of pop music; many bands did that before Nirvana. However, had he lived, he may have leaned more into his folk, country, and blues influences as he did in the Unplugged performance, and he may have added more classical instruments as he did with the cellists on In Utero & its tour. It's sad that we can only speculate.
Nirvanas popularity got transferred to the Foo Fighters because of Kurt’s sudden and brutal demise. But Nirvanas songs and Kurt’s voice will live forever! 😮
I knew Kurt, Dale, Buzz, Lukin,, Krist, when they were living in Aberdeen/Montesano no matter how popular Nirvana was or what thy could have done had Kurt not died, it would have been far better for him to live and the band just be over with. It took years before I could listen to Nirvana again and the whole thing is still painful.
Why Nirvana got famous? Just as stated: Because their handsome frontman died in the right time of his carrear under mysterious circumstances, and somehow turned into Saint Kurt, with always new generations finding themselves in him. Additionally their music still sounds much better than many other things that are played on the radio. And not to forget even for all the hate and murder-innuendo she got: Courtney's (and also Dave's) legacy-work. Dave is the worker, and she keeps them in talk, adding new fuel to the fire whenever the sales go low. She understands that bad press is better than no press. That keeps the franchise alive.
@dyslexicbatnam1350 He was Geffens new horse in the stable. You couldn't escape advertisment. Smells Like Teen Spirit was played everywhere, on the radiostations, in shops and garages, until you got used to it. Record-shops had the baby (or the cat) floating everywhere. Advertisments were in any nespaper. And not to forget: every larger city suddenly had a Virgin Megastore in the late 80's, in a sort of 'cultural mission'. The first thing they advertised and hyped was political rock like U2 and the anti-apartheit-musicians and then Guns'n'Roses, and the LA - Rockscene. And after those were known and expoited, they featured Seatle-Bands. I know that me and my friend who had collected all the blues and rock records, our record-dealer suggested to us, even bought Nevermind for our collections, thinking if it was Grunge it might sound like Temple Of The Dog, that we both loved, but realized the rest was just a 'noise-pit with a front-screamer' and it remained sitting on our shelves gathering dust, until he died.
@MagnaMater2 - Actually, the "Smells Like Teen Spirit" video was only played occasionally late at night, originally, and Nirvana got almost no promotion by the label until fans started requesting the song and video incessantly. Nirvana's rise was almost completely organic.
No Kurt Cobain , = no nirvana. He was not just the front man of nirvana , he started the band. And as far as alice in chains reforming after Layne Staley died, 👎👎👎👎. I'm a purest
Cobain is the reason i picked up a guitar. I'm completly against what Buzz Osborn said about Kurt, he was surely good looking but that's not the reason they became famous. Their songs and sound was just different. Kurt had different kinds of influences but his sound was HIS. Pixies, Mudhoney, Melvins, Beatles... maybe some kind of formula but that's it.
his originality thats make him more stand up,being true to hiimself,whatever he wears,good looking cute.i love the way he is very natural and if we can bring back time,maybe kurt doesnt died young❤️😔...
Kurt Cobain was far ahead of his time, or everyone else was so far behind. Musically, politically, socially, in every way. Still vulnerable all the same, but not afraid. He always said he was going to outlive everyone and be 120, he seemed to somehow have that intelligence, foresight and wisdom at 27. Nirvana is Hell and Heaven P.S. AGAIN that wasn't an "S word note" it was a resignation letter from music then forged at the end. Do your homework
me as a Soungdarden fan watching AIC and Nirvana fans fighting each other....just chilling and respecting both bands while knowing Chris Cornell was the real deal :)
Nirvana was the perfect band. The weight of the world comes with perfection, hence perfection can't last. Thank God they were able to record the music they did in that short time frame. It will last forever.
Nirvana was the first original music band in many years. Instead of copying other bands or being a clone band, they made original music with an original sound, influenced by their many favorite musical artists.
As Buzzo said Nirvana would never be as popular and cool as it is and was if Kurt didn't look the way he did. It's pop culture.. something that Kurt almost hated. And so as it is in life you become what you hate the most. Obviously it's also luck and randomness of pop culture. Before you hate down 😂below I was a massive Nirvana and grunge fan most of my life and I played Kurt's songs on the streets for years so, think before you come up with anything stupid.
I always thought Nirvana was an overrated band until I started playing guitar. Now that I'm a musician, I tried to make beautiful but simple songs, and it turned out to be really difficult. That's when I realized that Kurt Cobain was a genius in his own right
@@danielallan8310 Yes, i've never said he wasn't what I'm saying is he wasn't the only genius around. Just as were and are many others nobody knows about.
They were at the right place at the right time and thanks MTV for the Nirvana mania and thanks to the bands that came before them and never had the credits they deserved, Plus, Nirvana was a band with good looking guys, that counts a lot to MTV.
I think they had an incredible song at the right time. Personally i would rate Alice in Chains, pearl jam and sound garden over Nirvana, but they had that 1 iconic song. They had 1 good album but they have a mystery around them.
Another thing Nirvana did better than any of their "Grunge" peers was blending folk, country, blues, and classical influences with their pop, punk, and metal foundations, especially near the end of Kurt's life during the Unplugged performance and with the cellists on In Utero & its tour. Had he lived, he may have leaned more into those influences and increasingly fused them with his style of rock & roll. It is very sad that we can only speculate what their music would've sounded like.
AC/DC is the only band that survived the death of their singer, not only intact, but going on to even greater heights. Most others just fade away as an afterthought.
no! Kurt Cobain IS NIRVANA. There is no NIRVANA without him. Period. I believe this is why Krist isnt in Foo Fighters . Otherwise, it would have just been a repackaged NIRVANA with Dave as the singer and he does not sing like Kurt , nor does the music sound like NIRVANA in any way.
"You can't go one day without seeing a person of the younger generation rocking a Nirvana shirt" A lot of kids just think it looks cool and think it's a brand, I know because I'm in high school, lol
Kurt Cobain could have went on for ever If he was still here with his band because he was the greatest grunge band and he would have made more music 🎵🎵 than his now with his daughter
I believe Kurt would have left Nirvana if he survived. He would have focused on arts for a while because he was creative. He would have gone on with music after a couple of years. He would have joined Nirvana making new records and probably a solo project until his death. During an interview in Seattle at Edgewater Hotel he said he saw himself like Johnny Cash in older age, playing guitar on his chair. And I still can't believe he took his life, because his wife was a toxic egomaniacal wife and she lied all over the years to protect herself.
Please don't blame Courtney. Kurt had severe bipolar disorder and s*icide ran in his family. Yeah Courtney was messed up, but she did love him and tried to help him.
Well, I am not blaming Courtney. I'm just talking about her own personality disorder, which influenced Kurt's decision to ask for divorce on the 1st of March 1994 when he was in Munich to play his last show.
Hello, I think this is just a clip or a scene from an interview or to promote an interview. But my guess is that it's related to the interview from August 1993 at the Edgewater Hotel. Best regards
Its weird that kurt is one of the first artists being "resurrected" by AI, those uncanny generated images of him, its his face, i can recognize it, but it feels kinda odd...
Their catalog has been constantly in print and available. It also seems nowadays bands from the past can still make millions from t-shit royalties. They're over licenced to every outlet that sells clothes. Not to mention that music never got any better after the mid 90's. It actually got worse. Kind of why The Beatles are also still popular.
Kurts appearance?? Had F all to do with why we loved them. Granted, I doubt Lucky's would've made _"Fecal Matter"_ t-shirts. But his LOOKS were why so many males loved them? Ridiculous. People liked the Pumpkins. And he looks like a damned alien. They still wrote Soma? Hummer, Mayonaise..?! Even if he is weird AF. (they opened with Soma the year Nirvana was to play at Lolapalooza, which I was going to. 😢)
Just because you see kids and young adults wear the shirts with nirvana doesnt mean they listen to them. They just wear band shirts because its a trend. And alot of these gen z kids listen to thay garbage trap hip hop hyperpop crap. Just saying.
im a 14 yo gen z and im sad about the fact that how i am a huge fan of nirvana and i'd love to get one nirvana tshirt but cant, but people who dont even listen to nirvana have like 30 different of those.
no, nirvana had to have kc to be nirvana whereas aic needed layne badly but because most songs were written by jerry they could continue on convincingly enough w/o layne
Hilarious, and at the same time illuminating, how Kurt expresses zero interest in 'musicianship' and music theory, which in his view gets in the way of originality, followed immediately by the clip of an expert in music theory, explaining how Kurt was spot on with structure, melody etc. And this was because he had a natural 'ear for music'. Seems like Kurt's strengths were his creativity and originality - finding an innovative way to combine different styles, combined with passion and commitment to do whatever it took making his dreams a reality, combined with integrity, empathy and an ability to connect on a human level. It's a shame that his unhealed wounds from his childhood, self doubt, and health problems sabotaged his success and led to drug addiction and premature death. But great that what he achieved in such a short space of time has become a lasting legacy. ❤
he said he had no desire to get better on guitar but if he'd made it to the internet times and saw how easy it is now to learn literally any cool song you can think of he'dve laughed at himself for saying that
@@joejones9520 Yes I'm sure he would have embraced new technology for both music and as a visual artist. Virtual reality was just beginning to emerge at that time, and he did express an interest in how that could be used. And given his love of dolls, he might have designed some weird and wonderful Avatars and even created customised bots, and brought his imaginary friend Boddah to life! At the same time I think he would have realised the importance of staying connected with the unique human qualities of intuition, originality, raw emotion and empathy.
I’m sorry they were no Jane’s Addiction. They were OK. Nirvana Nevermind was a great album but other than that, they just fell into the right spot at the right time. It was all luck.
ok im a big fan of Janes Addiction, one of my favorites. But Nirvana had great energy, amazing drumming, fantastic melodies in many songs, really honest productions without overdoing it and really fun live act. Come on!! watch some early gigs they rocked
Alice in chains didn't lose their songwriter... Jerry cantrell wrote the most of the aic stuff....with the death of kurt cobain nirvana lost besides its voice and guitar also its songwriter.... no nirvana without kurt.... alice in chains made some new alice in chains songs...without its voice.... of Lane...
I really don't like the use of the phrase "it would have been far better if he hadn't done that". What been killed? Also remember he had only recently recorded "You Know You're Right" before his death. Not really a fade out.
Kurt Cobain was a rare genius. It’s simple and not hard to understand. Listen to him in interviews. He was 27 years old speaking with so much wisdom. It’s not complicated. Nirvana is amazing band that will be remembered 100 years from now.
All his Demos tell a story too, if they had fully released songs like Do Re Mi, Burn the Rain or She only Lies he wouldve had another hit album, such a great artist.
The thing that still amazes me about Kurt Cobain was how good he was at expressing himself. Whether spoken or written, Kurt always had something to say that was interesting. He was clearly extremely intelligent and more perceptive than anybody his age had a right to be. The fact he was driven to self-destruction at such a young age, is a sad loss to the whole world.
It was normal back then for people in their 20s and younger to be intelligent, thoughtful and articulate.
@@folksurvival I grew up in the 1960's and '70's, was the 1990's really that long ago? It might be true that more people had slightly better "people skills" in those long lost days of yore pre internet (it only existed c. 1995 after all) but I hadn't noticed how much more thoughtful the 20'ish folk were than they are now.
Born in 1999 I started playing guitar because of Cobain. And now my band is starting to do gigs original music.
I was 15 when Kurt died... I'm 45 now and still listen to Nirvana today
Why shouldn't you?
We were almost the exact same age I mean I guess we still are LOL
I was 14 when he died and I too still play the song on guitar and listen to them wear the shirts from time to also
I was exactly 10 years older, 25 when Kurt died and they're still my favourite band of all time.
What Nirvana did better than most bands do was they were 100% dedicated to what they were doing. They never wavered & they never compromised. It was complete, 24/7, balls to the wall dedication & passion for the art that they wanted to portray & perform. What you saw with them was what you got. Take it or leave it, they did it their way & on their terms. Pure integrity.
I love Pearl Jam and the others seattle bands, but Nirvana had something different and special, like The Beatles. I can't explain what it is with words, maybe a combination of songs, style, image, meaning.
Nirvana’s songs were the main thing that made them great. And I feel like Kurt and Krist are both underestimated as players. I started playing guitar in the early nineties as a young kid and the beauty of punk rock is that it’s something a kid can get into. It’s not technically challenging, it’s more physical and visceral. That was really inspiring to me.
The reason why Alice in Chains was able to keep going was that the primary songwriter (Jerry Cantrell) is very much alive and still working. You couldn't have Nirvana without Kurt Cobain.
And Alice in chains has only had one real hit since Layne died. The older AIC blows Nirvana out of the water now. Just look at documentaries on Kurt Cobain and documentaries on Layne Staley. The numbers are obvious. Almost every time they sing live now, they play their setlist with the songs that were sang by Layne.
@@DannyLeeOGT In what way do you measure "blowing Nirvana out of the water?" AIC would be barely a blip on the radar if it wasn't for Nirvana's historical breakthrough.
@@gregoryandrus5322 Soundgarden and AIC were before Nirvana
I say that because Nirvana fans nowadays are even tired of the music. There was nothing Timeless about it they blew up one big burst and it was over.
@@DannyLeeOGT your reply did nothing to refute my statement. But nice try?
@@gregoryandrus5322for me personally, AIC is just something that ill never get tired of. For one their music is more diverse than nirvana. Plenty of their songs sound a lot different than other songs. Nirvana songs for the most part are all pretty similar to each other. Each Nirvana song is very similar to the every other song on the same album. At most the sound changes a bit with each album, and even then, the change isnt as significant as the change between each AIC song. Because of this, for me personally, Nirvana loses its magic pretty fast. On the other hand, i can listen to an AIC album multiple times a day, often doing this for days on end, and they still sound amazing every time i listen to them. AIC is also more unique. For one, Laynes voice is extremely unique, and no one can really replicate it to the point where its indistinguishable from the real Layne. Kurts voice on the other hand is a lot more simple, and a lot of people can replicate it near perfectly. This also applies to just the overall sound. Nirvana’s sound isnt all that unique. Its very simple and doesnt differ a ton from the bands that came before Nirvana. You can find bands out there that sound noticeable similar, both from before and after Nirvana. On the other hand AIC is really unique. Ive never heard a band that sounds like AIC, neither from before or after AIC. Also if you look at it objectively, AIC is a lot more technically skilled and complex than Nirvana, which also plays a part in why AIC sounds more unique, and also why their songs sound significantly different from each other. The song writing is also WAY better than Nirvana. Its deeper, darker, and just overall has more meaning and is a lot better than Nirvana. Theres some other reasons and i maybe couldve explained a bit better, but off the top of my head this is mainly why i think AIC is WAY better than Nirvana. I do like Nirvana ofc and im not saying theyre bad or anything.
To be fair though, ill also say that Nirvana and AIC are a lot different from each other. Theyre different genres, have different influences, and different goals/ideas when it comes to their music. I honestly dont even like to compare them because i find it unfair. I dont think theyre similar enough to really even be compared. The only reason theyre seen as similar, is because they were both rock bands from seattle in the early 90s, so they all got lumped together under the term “grunge”. People see grunge as a genre, but in reality its just a scene. All of the more well known grunge bands differ a lot from each other, and their music explores different genres/styles. To me, comparing nirvana and AIC is like comparing the beatles to the doors or something. I mean you can compare them if you want, but the beatles and the doors are way different from each other for the most part, similar to how AIC and Nirvana are way different from each other, and its hard to say in good faith that one band is better than the other, when they arent all that similar to each other, other than the fact that they existed at the same time, and in the case of AIC and Nirvana, were from the same “scene” that happened to blow up.
Kurt was a musical genius. Lyrically he was poetic, cryptic and clever. You can take his lyrics literally or infer them how you like. The songs are very easy to hum too. Lovely rhymes and interesting combinations of words. I remember a point when hipsters pretended to not like or listen to Nirvana because Kurt was gone and they were too mainstream. Pretended that they were over it and only liked Neutral Milk Hotel, Fugazi or etc.
Nirvana are a band you love for life. Its like The Beatles, Hendrix, Bob Dylan and Bob Marley. Universal and very much representative of its era. Nirvana is one of the greatest bands of all time
im a 14 yo gen z and ive been listening to them since 12, i absolutely love nirvana. cant believe how theyre still not as relevant as they were now. but because of me, 2 of my best friends listen to nirvana too. its amazing.
That is the absolute coolest thing with the gen z.. your curiosity and your ability to go trough history and old memories to find great bands like nirvana.
Oh gawd weiird
@@Ken-Morten im generally just a fan of rock music, passed on from my dad.... i started with bon jovi, gnr and now nirvana. i love other grunge bands like AIC, Soundgarden, Hole and other than grunge, linkin park. ik other bands from other rock subgenres but im not really i to them even though they're really great.🤘🏻
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Hey, since you like nirvana i want to recommend you a band that inspire nirvana making nevermind. Its Pixies.
That’s really rad bro’ I’m stoked that u and your friends like them’ I’m 43 now bro and it’s just so rad to c the bands music go full circle’ nirvana were one of my influences to help push me with my session work etc’ keep being u dude 💪✌️
Aged 40 and still my fav band ever. Nevermind and in utero my two fav albums ever. KC was ahead of his time and still is. A legend lost far too soon.
You forgot Kurt's great self marketing skill. He knew.
I'm 34 I've been listening to this band since I was 13, and I still enjoy listening to them while I work. Long live grunge rock!!!
45 and counting...
@@tompanoname3579 right on👍
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On top of all of that Kurt was on a mission.
Undoubtedly one of the greatest bands. It feels as if Kurt's death occurred just yesterday. May his soul find peace, wherever he may be.
They are legends R. I.P curt Cobain 🤘🖤🖤🖤🖤🖤
when i was a kid i remember listening to many nirvana songs in the car with my dad as he would sometime sing along with them and my dad had loved nirvana back when they were thriving and still to this day he listens to them and loves them. he tells me that even today listening to their songs are almost refreshing. many artists today do the lowest bare minimum for music and almost don’t seem to care and only want fame. kurt was doing his own thing with good morals with the music. the expression he expressed was remarkable and amazing. nirvana was is and always a banger. in every way it is nostalgic and beautiful.
Kurt ultimately felt dismayed about many aspects of stardom. He went through a crowd at one of his concerts and saw a couple kids actually shooting up smack - they said "See Kurt, we're just like you!" This shocked and dismayed him and i think it really stuck with him for the rest of his days. He never wanted to be any kind of role model but for him it was unavoidable, and he hated that part of celebrity -
Im almost forty and seems like Nirvana had a big resurgence, when i was a teen it was years after grunge had peaked. I remember when i got my smile face t shirt was hard to come by back then, now it is so popular that my better have got same shirt for our kid recently at Walmart.
I'm around the same age and I also find Nirvana's resurgence wild. It gladdens my heart to hear Gen Z embracing a lot of bands such as Nirvana who meant so much to me growing up in the '90s, but it's also a very strange sensation when somebody like Kurt becomes legendary & almost mythical in status posthumously 30 years later.
There is an audio of Kurt talking about our generation of teenagers who are going to stay on cell phones, he was really right so he did what he had to do
He didn't have to do that. If he did that. Not 100% convinced.
But as someone who's had problems with opioids, and has gone through multiple withdrawals, I totally get how hopeless things can seem. During withdrawals, you can't even escape the torture by sleeping, cuz you can't sleep. Try being tortured for more than 22 hours a day for 10 consecutive days. Feels like years. 😭
That's true, its in a movie called about a son (90min movie about kurts life, in his own words)
Kurt was the band. He was a poet that put his poems to music.
Exactly he stood for nirvana
Yeah but Courtney was Kurts Yoko Ono for sure. Yes Kurt was the lyricist and the focal point. And I believe give credit where credit is due. But after Courtney was done hypnotizing Kurt with all her (drugs and charm??) She complained until Kurt was receiving 75% of the income! Money meant nothing to Kurt, except I'm sure he enjoyed not couch hoping anymore. But 25% off what the largest band in the world at the time was making...split between 2 is an insult. Then here comes Pat Smear! (Imagine having that name 😅) So 3 people now have to split a quarter of the profit. Pat was brought on because Kurt started forgetting different chords among other things. So Kurt's personal problems caused the remaining members to make even less money.
So perfect how you quoted Rick beato. We've known that Kurt was a genious for Centurys, but Rick actually went ahead and proved it showing how complex Cobains compositions actually were, with key changes mid riff and multiple modal changes within a single song, from someone who never bothered to learn a scale.
That was a very great Video! - That's the first time I give this award
I think that he was definitely doing the punk thing of understating how hard he worked. Krist Novoselic later admitted that they treated their eight and nine hour rehearsal sessions as more serious than any job. Unfortunately, too many never saw the skill behind the simplicity and never got better because they thought it was counterproductive.
I got my first of the 11 copy's of bleach i own today's in feb 1990i still have it (cd) watching nirvana blow up and rule to kurts death ..still hurts me today.. but i love seeing new nirvana fans even the one's who...like to sing along..
I think you’re right on the end part, and everything else lol
Its a tough question, they came out at exactly the right time where we were all lost and starting to find other ways to express ourselves. We grew with them and the journey was hard but they got us through. I dont think there is another group at this moment in time that will have that effect apart from Taylor swift and the young generation of kids who have been told the world is a bad place. The band will live for ever, we move on and change but put the albums on again and we go straight back.. and thats the mark of genius
no.... the timing NOW Is not that, but they are still popular.... you answered the question FOR THAT TIME, not why they are still relevant to people nwo
Because the Grunge Generation is still around
Nirvana was way ahead of that time ⭐⭐⭐⭐⭐🤘🫶
Nah, Kurt Cobain was ahead of his time
Nah, typical Our Generation & Culture Music
Kurt, gift from GOD, and he didn't know
Not quite ahead of their time. Kurt was a very talented singer & songwriter who blended punk rock with the riffage & heaviness of metal and the structure of pop music; many bands did that before Nirvana. However, had he lived, he may have leaned more into his folk, country, and blues influences as he did in the Unplugged performance, and he may have added more classical instruments as he did with the cellists on In Utero & its tour. It's sad that we can only speculate.
@@LuminaireNoire yeah man, he would've done exactly what he said he'd do, sit down and play som acoustic
Well the pixies are legends to so far Kurt was awesome
Nirvanas popularity got transferred to the Foo Fighters because of Kurt’s sudden and brutal demise. But Nirvanas songs and Kurt’s voice will live forever! 😮
The Foo Fighters wouldn’t have a record deal without the Nirvana connection. Dreadful band.
@@DotM68 I tend to agree. Mainly because Dave was in Nirvana. I like a couple of his songs and he sings okay but his lyrics are nothing like Nirvanas.
I was 14 when I heard he died. Just a blip in time, but immortal.
Because kurt his the god of music. Who cares about long solos when they even have mélodie ? We miss him.
so was layne staley.. check him out tbh
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Quit d riding
you have it all exactly correct!
The 80s were so polished and hate keeping was in full force, the rock stars seemed detached from
The common man. College radio was on the rise.
they did a lot of things better than most bands
I knew Kurt, Dale, Buzz, Lukin,, Krist, when they were living in Aberdeen/Montesano no matter how popular Nirvana was or what thy could have done had Kurt not died, it would have been far better for him to live and the band just be over with. It took years before I could listen to Nirvana again and the whole thing is still painful.
💯 AGREED
I'm sure he would agree with you. He had plans.
Sorry to hear! As a big Nirvana fan and Melvins fan.. I am a little envious of you to have known these guys at one point! Cheers!
Why Nirvana got famous? Just as stated: Because their handsome frontman died in the right time of his carrear under mysterious circumstances, and somehow turned into Saint Kurt, with always new generations finding themselves in him. Additionally their music still sounds much better than many other things that are played on the radio.
And not to forget even for all the hate and murder-innuendo she got: Courtney's (and also Dave's) legacy-work. Dave is the worker, and she keeps them in talk, adding new fuel to the fire whenever the sales go low. She understands that bad press is better than no press. That keeps the franchise alive.
Yeah but how Nevermind sold more records than Michael Jackson in 1991?
@@mafeuk MTV
@dyslexicbatnam1350 He was Geffens new horse in the stable. You couldn't escape advertisment. Smells Like Teen Spirit was played everywhere, on the radiostations, in shops and garages, until you got used to it. Record-shops had the baby (or the cat) floating everywhere. Advertisments were in any nespaper. And not to forget: every larger city suddenly had a Virgin Megastore in the late 80's, in a sort of 'cultural mission'. The first thing they advertised and hyped was political rock like U2 and the anti-apartheit-musicians and then Guns'n'Roses, and the LA - Rockscene. And after those were known and expoited, they featured Seatle-Bands. I know that me and my friend who had collected all the blues and rock records, our record-dealer suggested to us, even bought Nevermind for our collections, thinking if it was Grunge it might sound like Temple Of The Dog, that we both loved, but realized the rest was just a 'noise-pit with a front-screamer' and it remained sitting on our shelves gathering dust, until he died.
@MagnaMater2 - Actually, the "Smells Like Teen Spirit" video was only played occasionally late at night, originally, and Nirvana got almost no promotion by the label until fans started requesting the song and video incessantly.
Nirvana's rise was almost completely organic.
@@BugRib Having been no fan of it, back then, I recall hearing it all the time.
0:39 I'll stick around, I'll stick around 🗣
We ❤️Nirvana lives forever ❤️👍
No Kurt Cobain , = no nirvana. He was not just the front man of nirvana , he started the band. And as far as alice in chains reforming after Layne Staley died, 👎👎👎👎. I'm a purest
also no krist means no nirvana, he always supported kurt in all ways, he was the reason of nirvana
@@nirvanaduhgkurt was nirvana
@@Xxrocknrollgod without krist there wouldn’t be nirvana maybe a another band but not nirvana
Cobain is the reason i picked up a guitar.
I'm completly against what Buzz Osborn said about Kurt, he was surely good looking but that's not the reason they became famous. Their songs and sound was just different.
Kurt had different kinds of influences but his sound was HIS.
Pixies, Mudhoney, Melvins, Beatles... maybe some kind of formula but that's it.
his originality thats make him more stand up,being true to hiimself,whatever he wears,good looking cute.i love the way he is very natural and if we can bring back time,maybe kurt doesnt died young❤️😔...
Kurt Cobain was far ahead of his time, or everyone else was so far behind. Musically, politically, socially, in every way. Still vulnerable all the same, but not afraid. He always said he was going to outlive everyone and be 120, he seemed to somehow have that intelligence, foresight and wisdom at 27. Nirvana is Hell and Heaven
P.S. AGAIN that wasn't an "S word note" it was a resignation letter from music then forged at the end. Do your homework
Bullshit. He was one of plenty in the Alternative Scene.
Plenty of thoughtful people then
there is no chance anyone else was involved, anyone who's done their homework knows that
@@haxio17facts 😂
me as a Soungdarden fan watching AIC and Nirvana fans fighting each other....just chilling and respecting both bands while knowing Chris Cornell was the real deal :)
Nirvana was the perfect band. The weight of the world comes with perfection, hence perfection can't last. Thank God they were able to record the music they did in that short time frame. It will last forever.
He's the best of grunge and punk rock nobody else will ever beat his music and that's the fact
Nirvana was the first original music band in many years. Instead of copying other bands or being a clone band, they made original music with an original sound, influenced by their many favorite musical artists.
As Buzzo said Nirvana would never be as popular and cool as it is and was if Kurt didn't look the way he did. It's pop culture.. something that Kurt almost hated. And so as it is in life you become what you hate the most. Obviously it's also luck and randomness of pop culture. Before you hate down 😂below I was a massive Nirvana and grunge fan most of my life and I played Kurt's songs on the streets for years so, think before you come up with anything stupid.
I always thought Nirvana was an overrated band until I started playing guitar. Now that I'm a musician, I tried to make beautiful but simple songs, and it turned out to be really difficult. That's when I realized that Kurt Cobain was a genius in his own right
@@danielallan8310 Yes, i've never said he wasn't what I'm saying is he wasn't the only genius around. Just as were and are many others nobody knows about.
People were tired of hairspray and spending money to keep up, so he bridged it.
Like alternative Culture was new
Lolz
They were at the right place at the right time and thanks MTV for the Nirvana mania and thanks to the bands that came before them and never had the credits they deserved, Plus, Nirvana was a band with good looking guys, that counts a lot to MTV.
That's some of it but kurt was mostly just genius with melody
Good looking? The first time I looked at them I thought these guys sure are ugly. But they had great songs and Kurt had a great voice!
@@dynjarren8355 Every model of that time was trying to look like Kurt.
They were the best melody makers !!!
Nirvana songs are more in line with today's youth. More than it did in the early 90s. Folks are depressed and overworked. 😅
Original.
R. I. P
K.D C
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Kurt push himself when he was in Rome so much he had mental breakdown threaten to hurt people and himself he dedicate music as his life
Ending at the peak of their powers probably helped
THE UNFORTUNATE END AT THEIR PEAK!!
THE BEST MELODY MAKERS !!!
You know when it started with the Beatles ! it ended with Nirvana ! and there's never been anything after or since !
BLEACH album👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍
I think they had an incredible song at the right time. Personally i would rate Alice in Chains, pearl jam and sound garden over Nirvana, but they had that 1 iconic song. They had 1 good album but they have a mystery around them.
Another thing Nirvana did better than any of their "Grunge" peers was blending folk, country, blues, and classical influences with their pop, punk, and metal foundations, especially near the end of Kurt's life during the Unplugged performance and with the cellists on In Utero & its tour. Had he lived, he may have leaned more into those influences and increasingly fused them with his style of rock & roll. It is very sad that we can only speculate what their music would've sounded like.
Simple kurt made songs like the Beatles but in there style ! Big Pop Grunge
I like the outro music. What is it?
Nirvana is timeless
Kurt Cobain : “it’s gets in the way of originality” and then, openly (to be fair to him ) “ripped” off other bands Melodie’s and sounds
First got into Nirvana and later Alice in chains. In my opinion Alice in chains is way better
@user-mw3dd6ys1u totally understandable. That's why I mentioned as ' in my opinion '. Still love Nirvana though
except no, it's not
@user-mw3dd6ys1u that's an interesting story.
@@deadroses19 dude like I said music is subjective
No, Kurt was not just the frontman, you can’t replace him or that musical genius, that’s why Nirvana couldn’t continue.
AC/DC is the only band that survived the death of their singer, not only intact, but going on to even greater heights. Most others just fade away as an afterthought.
no! Kurt Cobain IS NIRVANA. There is no NIRVANA without him. Period. I believe this is why Krist isnt in Foo Fighters . Otherwise, it would have just been a repackaged NIRVANA with Dave as the singer and he does not sing like Kurt , nor does the music sound like NIRVANA in any way.
"You can't go one day without seeing a person of the younger generation rocking a Nirvana shirt"
A lot of kids just think it looks cool and think it's a brand, I know because I'm in high school, lol
Great band with a lot of great melodies ...but he was seriously good looking and photogenic humanity loves that
Chris Cornell and Eddie Vedder were good looking too. Nirvana had something else, not only looks.
Kurt Cobain could have went on for ever If he was still here with his band because he was the greatest grunge band and he would have made more music 🎵🎵 than his now with his daughter
I believe Kurt would have left Nirvana if he survived. He would have focused on arts for a while because he was creative. He would have gone on with music after a couple of years. He would have joined Nirvana making new records and probably a solo project until his death. During an interview in Seattle at Edgewater Hotel he said he saw himself like Johnny Cash in older age, playing guitar on his chair. And I still can't believe he took his life, because his wife was a toxic egomaniacal wife and she lied all over the years to protect herself.
Please don't blame Courtney. Kurt had severe bipolar disorder and s*icide ran in his family. Yeah Courtney was messed up, but she did love him and tried to help him.
Well, I am not blaming Courtney. I'm just talking about her own personality disorder, which influenced Kurt's decision to ask for divorce on the 1st of March 1994 when he was in Munich to play his last show.
THEY STAND OUT BECAUSE OF THEIR MUSIC
Kurt Cobain was a genius
3:06 What interview is this from?
Hello, I think this is just a clip or a scene from an interview or to promote an interview. But my guess is that it's related to the interview from August 1993 at the Edgewater Hotel. Best regards
@@frauleinbella9336 Yep, that's it. Thanks
He's right (Kurt Cobain) -Alice in chains and Pearl Jam are poser bands.
why this channel only tanks about nirvana, kurt Cobain or grunge
Its weird that kurt is one of the first artists being "resurrected" by AI, those uncanny generated images of him, its his face, i can recognize it, but it feels kinda odd...
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What’s the last song playing?
What they did better than ANY band is write relevant lyrics and music about ppls lives
buzz Osbourne even had a big perm in what looks like his school photo lol 😂
Just..sit and drink pennyroyal tea..❤
There is no possible way Nirvana could of went on. Nirvana was Kurt.
Their catalog has been constantly in print and available. It also seems nowadays bands from the past can still make millions from t-shit royalties. They're over licenced to every outlet that sells clothes. Not to mention that music never got any better after the mid 90's. It actually got worse. Kind of why The Beatles are also still popular.
Kurts appearance?? Had F all to do with why we loved them.
Granted, I doubt Lucky's would've made _"Fecal Matter"_ t-shirts.
But his LOOKS were why so many males loved them? Ridiculous.
People liked the Pumpkins. And he looks like a damned alien.
They still wrote Soma? Hummer, Mayonaise..?! Even if he is weird AF.
(they opened with Soma the year Nirvana was to play at Lolapalooza, which I was going to. 😢)
"verse chorus verse" is NOT the "quiet loud quiet" technique and Pixies did NOT invent that... that's ridiculous and they even say the same
Just because you see kids and young adults wear the shirts with nirvana doesnt mean they listen to them. They just wear band shirts because its a trend. And alot of these gen z kids listen to thay garbage trap hip hop hyperpop crap. Just saying.
im a 14 yo gen z and im sad about the fact that how i am a huge fan of nirvana and i'd love to get one nirvana tshirt but cant, but people who dont even listen to nirvana have like 30 different of those.
"just sayin" negates your comment and labels u a typical conformist
Ramones did alright
no, nirvana had to have kc to be nirvana whereas aic needed layne badly but because most songs were written by jerry they could continue on convincingly enough w/o layne
Hilarious, and at the same time illuminating, how Kurt expresses zero interest in 'musicianship' and music theory, which in his view gets in the way of originality, followed immediately by the clip of an expert in music theory, explaining how Kurt was spot on with structure, melody etc. And this was because he had a natural 'ear for music'.
Seems like Kurt's strengths were his creativity and originality - finding an innovative way to combine different styles, combined with passion and commitment to do whatever it took making his dreams a reality, combined with integrity, empathy and an ability to connect on a human level.
It's a shame that his unhealed wounds from his childhood, self doubt, and health problems sabotaged his success and led to drug addiction and premature death. But great that what he achieved in such a short space of time has become a lasting legacy. ❤
he said he had no desire to get better on guitar but if he'd made it to the internet times and saw how easy it is now to learn literally any cool song you can think of he'dve laughed at himself for saying that
@@joejones9520 Yes I'm sure he would have embraced new technology for both music and as a visual artist. Virtual reality was just beginning to emerge at that time, and he did express an interest in how that could be used. And given his love of dolls, he might have designed some weird and wonderful Avatars and even created customised bots, and brought his imaginary friend Boddah to life!
At the same time I think he would have realised the importance of staying connected with the unique human qualities of intuition, originality, raw emotion and empathy.
I’m sorry they were no Jane’s Addiction. They were OK. Nirvana Nevermind was a great album but other than that, they just fell into the right spot at the right time. It was all luck.
ok im a big fan of Janes Addiction, one of my favorites. But Nirvana had great energy, amazing drumming, fantastic melodies in many songs, really honest productions without overdoing it and really fun live act. Come on!! watch some early gigs they rocked
Background song in the beginning?
Alice in chains didn't lose their songwriter... Jerry cantrell wrote the most of the aic stuff....with the death of kurt cobain nirvana lost besides its voice and guitar also its songwriter.... no nirvana without kurt.... alice in chains made some new alice in chains songs...without its voice.... of Lane...
Hahaha that's a tall Kurt of thrones
0:04 - 0:40
Song name?
I really don't like the use of the phrase "it would have been far better if he hadn't done that". What been killed? Also remember he had only recently recorded "You Know You're Right" before his death. Not really a fade out.
I mean Kurts hero was John Lennon, so it seems reasonable that his songs would have a depth beyond the simple presentation.
All the wrong reasons.
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Think it’s simple
Kurt Cobain was apart of the band