U don’t wanna embarrass him. Give him 5-25 and let him save face and be happy to be here still. If u bend him over in public ur better off not signing him.
I expressed this recently...but Pete had to be in arrogant mode after advised by some people who really thought Boras could get him a huge contract..if Pete had a professional advisor and discussed the issue with the closest people to him, meaning his family...wife, parents etc..he would have probably humbled himself and face reality....I am truly sorry for Pete because I really love him as a met..I hope that they will come to a middle of the road solution and Pete finds himself on the Mets..His whole mindset would change for the better...come on, let's get this thing settled...just my little take on the Pete Alonso situation
Why did UA-cam take so long recommending your channel. I enjoyed this episode. Thank you for calling out the Pete apologist. I appreciate Pete's contributions. What I don't understand from the apologist about rewriting history based on feelings. There is too many scenarios where these contracts don't work out.
For the kind of money that beats asking for he would have to have my MVP year and then you give it to him until then that deferred money if he wins the MVP but until then no you don't pay him no more than $175 180 million
He's going to Japan to spite the Mets and MLB. But truthfully, I expect him to sign a one year deal with the Mets or a multi year deal to finish his career as a life long Met. Just my opinion. Take care and Happy Holliday's everyone!
@jwvvvv yea, and I dont get why everyone is acting like Pete is 33 or 34, he just turned 30. He plays everyday, doesnt get hurt and if you look at it so called "one dimensional sluggers" (Thome, David Ortiz, Pujols, Nelson Cruz, among others) actually age pretty well and slug well into their late 30s and even early 40s - probably in part because they're one dimensional and therefore don't expend as much energy (or get hurt) as much as the more athletic or defensive players tend to. This idea Pete won't age well is completely overstated, and the guy just turned 30 which is still young...I dont get it
I think that's pretty obvious. For the Mets, Pete comes back at short term deal with an opt out after year 1, and then Pete will test free agency again after 2025, and the Mets go get Vlady to replace him. That's what they're aiming for.
Bottom line is that Goldy and Walker have reset the 1B market and Pete is realistically looking at something like 2/40 or 3/51 as a best offer or a 1/17 deal! Which means his career is year by year and the multi year contract will likely go away. He gambled and lost
@@Standdividedfalltogether The market for a 30 year old power hitting 1B is very thin. Stearns knows his price and is gonna stick to it. Alonso is the most valuable to the Mets compared to the other 29 MLB teams. The Mets are his best shot and this staring contest will continue until he realizes that no one is rushing to sign him given his overall value as a player.
@ where’s 40-50 and 100-120 coming from. The guy we paid 800 mill to doesn’t do that either. And I’ll go as far as Pete defense is better than Soto. But he doesn’t walk as much right? Lmao. Can’t make everyone happy. Good luck filling 40 - 50 And 100 every year.
@ just spent 800 mill on a stranger to the team. But the guy that carried us through the playoffs and been here since a rookie we can’t give 175 to? IMO it’s a terrrible example for our farm system. You can be the best offensive player the team ever produced and not get paid. And be embarrassed in public too. Good idea. I’m sure it’ll go over well with everyone in the minors.
I think everyone is over exaggerating his age. If he signed a 5 year deal he would be 34 years old going into his fifth year of his contract. Walker is going to be 34 going into this year. Alonso is a better hitter than walker and will be when he’s 34 as well.
I meant to say why his skills of diminishing because he been uppercutting the ball trying to hit home runs if you go back to his rookie year just trying to make basics the homeowners are coming to town but until he stopped doing that and uppercutting the ball he's going to be a strikeout King another Dave Kingman
You guys are out of your minds if you think the 7/158 is still on the table from the mets. If that was still on the table he'd have signed by now. They're trying to get him for as short a term as possible, period and no one else is close to 7/158 in this market. Itd be malpractice to give him that length again after reading the market. Also weird aggressive/negative tone towards Pete here. First time i found you guys, gotta say it turned me off a bit. Not that i need glazing, but a little bit shrill and immature for my taste. Good luck to yall
Redskins are diminishing because he's got up their upper cutting the ball instead of like when he was a rookie just trying to get base hit so make contact that's right just right now I'm trying to uppercut the ball for home runs
Andrew, im sure you loved Pete 2-3 years ago...All the things you said are true, but they were true 2,3, 4 years ago...Not a great fielder, can't run well, but i am sure you loved him before this bad year,,,
Well before this bad year Pete had produced for us Carson, so i don't know why he looks at Petes faults only, and not see his positives. I think this past year Pete wanted to have a great year to get the big money, and put to much pressure on himself, and in clutch situations he didn't come thru...His limitations aside he's still provides punch to the lineup. So i would like the Mets to sign him...Have a nice Christmas Carson...
Why does everyone hate Pete? He's an awesome dude. Sure he had a down year compared to his previous years, but anyone would test the market in the last year of their contract. Anyone who wouldn't is an idiot because let's be honest they're all in it for the money. Pete is not Soto or a Judge but he's still a slugger, and he it's not a terrible first baseman either.
not that we hate him his actions speak louder than words!! Understand some people just have the ability to separate business from feelings and as much as we love Pete the business side says it may be time to move on from Pete. Anything over 3 years is going to be a bad contract for Pete, so I side with Stearns on being hesitant to give him more than a guaranteed 3-year deal!! Keep in mind Pete is the one who turned down the extension.
The Mets didn't play games with Alonso's major league time when they brought him up and he repaid them by hiring Scott Boris and trying to break the market.
I LIKE PETE BUT ITS UP TO STEVE COHEN TO TELL PETE WHAT THE DEAL IS AND HE WILL PETE HAD BETTER WATCH HIS BUT BEFORE BECAUSE SOME TEAM WILL OFFER 2 YEARS ONLY FOR 60 MILLON. AND THAT IS THE BEST OFFER HE WILL BE COMING BACK TO THE METS TO ASK THEM ABOUT THE DEAL IN 2023
The Mets should Offer Pete 3 Years at a 27 Million AAV for 81 Million . After that , the Mets Sign Vlad Jr. after 2025 then Trade Alonso after his Second Year of that New Contract .
Boras doesn't take the highest bid. He sets a price and waits for a team to meet it. He has pulled this off successfully time after time. Bryce Harper didn't sign until March.
He didn't do that last season. He waited too long and his clients ended up with bad short-term deals. Looks like he is going to do the same thing with Pete.
@jwvvvv Totally different story. Alonso has a consistent track record as a dominant home home run hitter. Montgomery in contrast had never had a season as a dominant pitcher prior to 2024, and some say he was only dominant in the second half. Snell was mediocre to poor between his two Cy Young seasons but expected GMs to forget that fact. Chapman was coming off a poor offensive season. Thus, none of them could sell a resume with a consistent history of success. In contrast, although Alonso's contact rate has plummeted in recent seasons, he has remains one of MLB's top home run hitters.
Nice to seat in front of a screen like a God of other people’s talents ! The Polar Bear 🐻❄️ has proven he can hit the hell out of the baseball ⚾️ coming at a 100 miles in seconds! Pete’s been doing it for years! Now everyone is an expert on Pete Alonso! Baseball critics should stick to what they know best & not Character killing! Pete Alonso is one of best options the Mets Have, Mets brass should play ball and pay up! That’s right, for one of their own! Time to pay the Piper; The Polar Bear 🐻❄️ just wants to play with the Mets! FantasticoMets69. Go Mets ! Let Pete bring us a Championship! 😅 Happy New Year 2025!!!
The most common sense objective analysis of Pete and the Mets I've heard so far. Subscribed.
Pete Michael Confortoed himself!
Greed sometimes bites you in the ass.
He just shorted himself about $60 mil. Dumb move.
If I was an owner go to Mets I will tell Pete and you take it or leave it cuz nobody going to pay you
U don’t wanna embarrass him. Give him 5-25 and let him save face and be happy to be here still. If u bend him over in public ur better off not signing him.
If I was owner I go to Mets I will tell Pete? Huh?
Merry Christmas Carson, Frank, and Andrew.
I expressed this recently...but Pete had to be in arrogant mode after advised by some people who really thought Boras could get him a huge contract..if Pete had a professional advisor and discussed the issue with the closest people to him, meaning his family...wife, parents etc..he would have probably humbled himself and face reality....I am truly sorry for Pete because I really love him as a met..I hope that they will come to a middle of the road solution and Pete finds himself on the Mets..His whole mindset would change for the better...come on, let's get this thing settled...just my little take on the Pete Alonso situation
Why should you feel sorry for him? He's already a millionaire. He's made more money in five years than I'll see in my lifetime.
Without getting emotional, you guys nailed everything 100%
You just said it Pete is a one-dimensional player his back and actually more he's good at scooping he's not a 5 tool player
Greed is a f-up thing. The extension of $158m was a lot of money.
Old saying I tell a lot of people…”Pigs get fat, Hogs get slaughtered”
I hope Pete comes back at a fair contract, not every FA has to get a ridiculous deal
Most of Pete's HR are in garbage time. Also, he may be 30 but he looks 35
Good luck Pete n Boras. There's no medicine for stupidity
Why did UA-cam take so long recommending your channel. I enjoyed this episode. Thank you for calling out the Pete apologist.
I appreciate Pete's contributions. What I don't understand from the apologist about rewriting history based on feelings.
There is too many scenarios where these contracts don't work out.
Glad you enjoyed it!
We should have known better to listen to Scott Boris look what he did the Jordan Montgomery
Not fair! Boras has pulled this stunt off successfully many many times.
7-158 is not on the table anymore of Pete would take it. It’s prob down to 4-100 or maybe at best 5-120-125. At best.
Yeah I was thinking 18 for 5
Still too much.
I've heard 3 years at 90 million.
Hey. Need to sign right back with the Mets
haven't seen teams gravel for Burnes?
That's kind of surprising. Max Fried got his money, but Burnes who had a better year and is a year younger, can't? That's interesting.
ok so stay with the mets for what ever, then show them what they could have gotten. then show the Mets what they retained
Merry Christmas Pete Alonso. For Christmas, Mets fans will see you play for a discount. 😂
@@CautionHighWavesAhead- I'm sure the Mets are hoping that someone else signed him I wouldn't even saw him at a discount
he's better defensively than he gets credit for.
It's amazing turning down 23 million a year and you can't even hit 260
Imagine giving a shit about power hitter batting average in 2024
the ray knight effect!!!!!
If there is a bunch of experts in to tell Steve cohen how to expend his money why don’t you ask him to give me some money?
Blame peach agent he had the same agent as Jordan Montgomery same agent Boris Scott Montgomery ends up finding me and taking less money
For the kind of money that beats asking for he would have to have my MVP year and then you give it to him until then that deferred money if he wins the MVP but until then no you don't pay him no more than $175 180 million
He's going to Japan to spite the Mets and MLB.
But truthfully, I expect him to sign a one year deal with the Mets or a multi year deal to finish his career as a life long Met.
Just my opinion.
Take care and Happy Holliday's everyone!
Pete Alonso plays everyday. Pay the man for that.
Frank Major is right Pete take it or leave it or sit out the season give him one year prove you are with it then you will be paid
Regarding Pete he needs to be in the lineup to much b s
unless i'm missing something about their first base situation cubs to me are still a threat, as are the giants
Exactly. If the Mets think that Pete is just going to come crawling back to them, they are mistaken.
@jwvvvv yea, and I dont get why everyone is acting like Pete is 33 or 34, he just turned 30. He plays everyday, doesnt get hurt and if you look at it so called "one dimensional sluggers" (Thome, David Ortiz, Pujols, Nelson Cruz, among others) actually age pretty well and slug well into their late 30s and even early 40s - probably in part because they're one dimensional and therefore don't expend as much energy (or get hurt) as much as the more athletic or defensive players tend to. This idea Pete won't age well is completely overstated, and the guy just turned 30 which is still young...I dont get it
The Mets know Valdy will be available next winter, so they are not particularly eager to give Alonzo top money.
I think that's pretty obvious. For the Mets, Pete comes back at short term deal with an opt out after year 1, and then Pete will test free agency again after 2025, and the Mets go get Vlady to replace him. That's what they're aiming for.
Bottom line is that Goldy and Walker have reset the 1B market and Pete is realistically looking at something like 2/40 or 3/51 as a best offer or a 1/17 deal! Which means his career is year by year and the multi year contract will likely go away. He gambled and lost
In his 30's, not even 30, crazy
He’s entering a 30 year old season for 2025.
He’s 5 years deep in the league and has hit more HR than anyone. Including judge if u count postseason HR which I do. Sign him. It’s Rediculous.
@@Standdividedfalltogether The market for a 30 year old power hitting 1B is very thin. Stearns knows his price and is gonna stick to it. Alonso is the most valuable to the Mets compared to the other 29 MLB teams. The Mets are his best shot and this staring contest will continue until he realizes that no one is rushing to sign him given his overall value as a player.
@ where’s 40-50 and 100-120 coming from. The guy we paid 800 mill to doesn’t do that either. And I’ll go as far as Pete defense is better than Soto. But he doesn’t walk as much right? Lmao. Can’t make everyone happy. Good luck filling 40 - 50 And 100 every year.
@ just spent 800 mill on a stranger to the team. But the guy that carried us through the playoffs and been here since a rookie we can’t give 175 to? IMO it’s a terrrible example for our farm system. You can be the best offensive player the team ever produced and not get paid. And be embarrassed in public too. Good idea. I’m sure it’ll go over well with everyone in the minors.
Also remember we didn't manipulate his service time so the mets have done right by pete his whole career
And the 175 meal for Pete for your contract and if you don't want it bring back Dominic Smith
No opt outs if he wants opt outs then is a low aav
If he hit 30 to 40 + HR : There will be buyers 2 or 3 yrs down the road!
No to Pete Alonso yes to Luis Arraez.
Yes pete alonso
Plus what is turn into is another Dave Kingman strike out a lot however he did show up a little bit in the playoffs so I give him $175 million
I think everyone is over exaggerating his age. If he signed a 5 year deal he would be 34 years old going into his fifth year of his contract. Walker is going to be 34 going into this year. Alonso is a better hitter than walker and will be when he’s 34 as well.
andrew pete is a lot better the matt Olsen other before talk about pete shouldnt fat shame him
💯💯💯 he is definitely projecting.
Sign him
I meant to say why his skills of diminishing because he been uppercutting the ball trying to hit home runs if you go back to his rookie year just trying to make basics the homeowners are coming to town but until he stopped doing that and uppercutting the ball he's going to be a strikeout King another Dave Kingman
He still has leverage. He can choose to go elsewhere for less.
You guys are out of your minds if you think the 7/158 is still on the table from the mets. If that was still on the table he'd have signed by now. They're trying to get him for as short a term as possible, period and no one else is close to 7/158 in this market. Itd be malpractice to give him that length again after reading the market.
Also weird aggressive/negative tone towards Pete here. First time i found you guys, gotta say it turned me off a bit. Not that i need glazing, but a little bit shrill and immature for my taste. Good luck to yall
Redskins are diminishing because he's got up their upper cutting the ball instead of like when he was a rookie just trying to get base hit so make contact that's right just right now I'm trying to uppercut the ball for home runs
5-115 millions
The Mets better sign Pete before another team else does. Soto is going to need someone to hit behind him.
Pete may end up in Japan
Andrew, im sure you loved Pete 2-3 years ago...All the things you said are true, but they were true 2,3, 4 years ago...Not a great fielder, can't run well, but i am sure you loved him before this bad year,,,
I can assure you this beef between him and Pete has existed for more than 3 years.
Well before this bad year Pete had produced for us Carson, so i don't know why he looks at Petes faults only, and not see his positives. I think this past year Pete wanted to have a great year to get the big money, and put to much pressure on himself, and in clutch situations he didn't come thru...His limitations aside he's still provides punch to the lineup. So i would like the Mets to sign him...Have a nice Christmas Carson...
MOVE ON FROM HIM ENOUGH OF PETE ALREADY 🙌🏽😡😡
Thank you!!.. all these sentimental fans who won't or can't see the clear decline!!! Geez..bye Pete! Thanks for the memories!
No more pete😊
Why does everyone hate Pete? He's an awesome dude. Sure he had a down year compared to his previous years, but anyone would test the market in the last year of their contract. Anyone who wouldn't is an idiot because let's be honest they're all in it for the money. Pete is not Soto or a Judge but he's still a slugger, and he it's not a terrible first baseman either.
not that we hate him his actions speak louder than words!!
Understand some people just have the ability to separate business from feelings and as much as we love Pete the business side says it may be time to move on from Pete. Anything over 3 years is going to be a bad contract for Pete, so I side with Stearns on being hesitant to give him more than a guaranteed 3-year deal!!
Keep in mind Pete is the one who turned down the extension.
@@wilwhite8557time to move on from ya mama. She’s overpriced
I hope that contract is off the table. At this point, Id start looking elsewhere. The problem is who else is there to get?
Most definitely is. I can assure you that.
He should've taken the deal. Boros will ruin everything.
Alonso is way over rated many of his homers are meaningless he is slow on the bases, can’t hit with 2 strikes or two outs too many Ks
The Mets didn't play games with Alonso's major league time when they brought him up and he repaid them by hiring Scott Boris and trying to break the market.
My Ouija board says Pete goes to Texas
Hey alm
Hey. All
He fucked up😢😢😢😢
That 7-year deal looking real good right now, huh?
I LIKE PETE BUT ITS UP TO STEVE COHEN TO TELL PETE WHAT THE DEAL IS AND HE WILL PETE HAD BETTER WATCH HIS BUT BEFORE BECAUSE SOME TEAM WILL OFFER 2 YEARS ONLY FOR 60 MILLON. AND THAT IS THE BEST OFFER HE WILL BE COMING BACK TO THE METS TO ASK THEM ABOUT THE DEAL IN 2023
The Mets should Offer Pete 3 Years at a 27 Million AAV for 81 Million . After that , the Mets Sign Vlad Jr. after 2025 then Trade Alonso after his Second Year of that New Contract .
There is no way they’re offering that the current AAV for first baseman with the same war is 20 million
Five years should be the max for any contract with Pete. Imagine him at 37.
Boras doesn't take the highest bid. He sets a price and waits for a team to meet it. He has pulled this off successfully time after time. Bryce Harper didn't sign until March.
He didn't do that last season. He waited too long and his clients ended up with bad short-term deals. Looks like he is going to do the same thing with Pete.
@jwvvvv Totally different story. Alonso has a consistent track record as a dominant home home run hitter. Montgomery in contrast had never had a season as a dominant pitcher prior to 2024, and some say he was only dominant in the second half. Snell was mediocre to poor between his two Cy Young seasons but expected GMs to forget that fact. Chapman was coming off a poor offensive season. Thus, none of them could sell a resume with a consistent history of success. In contrast, although Alonso's contact rate has plummeted in recent seasons, he has remains one of MLB's top home run hitters.
Should be Mets FT DH
Should have taken the 158/7 😂
5 years 25 million dollars
PETE SUCKS !!! IDK WHY YOU PPL CANT GET THAT THRU YOUR HEADS SMH
Nice to seat in front of a screen like a God of other people’s talents ! The Polar Bear 🐻❄️ has proven he can hit the hell out of the baseball ⚾️ coming at a 100 miles in seconds! Pete’s been doing it for years! Now everyone is an expert on Pete Alonso! Baseball critics should stick to what they know best & not Character killing! Pete Alonso is one of best options the Mets Have, Mets brass should play ball and pay up! That’s right, for one of their own! Time to pay the Piper; The Polar Bear 🐻❄️ just wants to play with the Mets! FantasticoMets69. Go Mets ! Let Pete bring us a Championship! 😅 Happy New Year 2025!!!
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@@MichaelAngelo-l5s ...THANKS FOR 100% SUPPORT! METS WILL OVERCOME!! HAPPY & HEALTHY 2025! Let's go Mets!!!