The Complexity of Majin Boo - Dragon Ball Dissection: The Majin Boo Arc Part 20!
Вставка
- Опубліковано 9 вер 2024
- Majin Boo's temper tantrum becomes existential. Not only does he create a new Boo, that Boo eats the first Boo to become yet another Boo. On one hand, this puts the "transforming villain" trope back into action. But could it be that this character-motivated transformation gives us a better story than Freeza and Cell?
Help support the channel:
/ mistarefusion
As you may or may not know, the powers that be have taken issue with my using Dragon Ball music in the opening. I suppose that's certainly their right. As a result, I have made the difficult choice to replace the opening music in most of The Boo Arc videos with a new, UA-cam-friendly piece. I hope you like it. As a compromise, I have retained the original music in a few select Boo Arc videos scattered across the arc. For those who miss the original, follow this link to the opening as I uploaded it in 2020. Thanks so much for your support!
ua-cam.com/video/JNZdVZG_lbM/v-deo.html
Trunks being the leader of the two & Goten being so passive and just going with everything Trunks tells him reminds me of how Bulma and Goku’s relationship was in the first arc of Dragonball. Toriyama doubtfully did that on purpose but to me it’s a nice callback to the first arc in the final arc
At the very least shows character consistency to an extent. Goten is clearly sort of a mini-goku but more childish. Trunks is a mini Bulma with some "saiyan traits". It's the repetition of personalities that creates the repetition of the dynamic but it creates the effect of nostalgia... to better result, i'd believe.
the trunks and goten pairing to me has a similar vibe to the iconic Calvin & Hobbes duo. With Trunks embodying the assertive and machiavellian Calvin, and Goten embodying the more passive and analytical Hobbes.
Buu really feels like a character that's lesser than the sum of his parts. Each main form of Buu has a lot of cool character traits going for them to work well as villains, but they're all so separated from each other that I have trouble thinking of Buu as one coherent antagonist.
In my opinion, Super Buu is the primary antagonist of the Buu arc, while Fat Buu is more like a plot device.
Fat Buu and Super Buu are so far removed from each other, I can’t consider them the same character. Fat Buu is an antagonist yes, but the same way Chiaotzu is an antagonist to the 24th tournament arc.
@@moonmoon4537 what about Kid Buu though
@@moonmoon4537 but isn't Super Buu basically Fat Buu with the Evil Side in charge ?
Kid Buu is the true one everything else was adding on personalities and influences. Essentially the Buu arc serves as a deconstruction of the character which ironically is him reverting to his true form. It’s almost like reverse character development.
@@jaybee27D more like the ‘final power up’ for the main antagonist, like Super Perfect Cell, or 100% Frieza. At least Buu’s transformations aren’t the ‘flip a switch’ kind
Mistare choosing to discuss the Cell Arc anime instead of continuing into the Buu Tennis Match is their own way of buying time like Piccolo...
11/10 segue Mistare!
Can't avoid those tennis matches forever. Especially if Lance decides to start reviewing Super. Just wait until we get to Jiren Tennis.
He probably also wants to discuss Pikkon before the he gets to Fusion Reborn.
I’d call it Buu Volleyball personally given some of the stuff to come… 😅
Super Buu shines as a character when he retains elements of comedy mixed with magic that the Buu saga has a ton of (turning Chi-Chi into an egg, drinking a soda while waiting for Gotenks to resume fighting, not even knowing what an hour is, etc). When the story needs him to be another rendition of Frieza/Cell is where he’s replaced as a character.
While he is evil (unlike Fat Boo), he retains the same "innocence", and that makes it even more funny.
Pretty much, yeah. Super Buu is still Fat Buu, but more evil. He's simple-minded, but surprisingly clever at times.
Then absorbing Piccolo supposedly makes him "more intelligent" and he starts talking like Cell for some reason.
is chi chi becoming an egg some kind of pun? I mean her name means > father.
@@YGOHermit Chichi is a (dated) term for milk in Japanese, and Toriyama confirmed that that's where her name comes from. It's another food-based name.
@@YGOHermit An egg was an intuitive choice because it helps to convey both Chi-Chi's helpless vulnerability before Buu's overwhelming might, and also allows for the impactful visual of being smashed to pieces.
For instance, Buu could've turned her into a cured ham or a watermelon or something; doesn't carry the same connotations or impression.
Another thing you left out (probably because it's just a small moment in time) but I do like the small conversation that Piccolo has with Videl, when she asks why he was using her dad's name when trying to stall Boo. Piccolo, the one who was critical about Satan when he first tried to "kill" Boo is now telling Videl how he may not be the strongest fighter in the world, but his actions in trying to befriend Boo, and almost saving the world make him worthy of the title World Champion.
I feel it's better in the Anime ( The part where Piccolo tells Buu Videl is Mr Satans daughter.) In the manga it just comes out if nowhere but the anime has Vudel accused Buu of bring scared and almost gets killed but Piccolo saves her saying her relation to Mr Satan
Also its interested that Buu smelled not through nostrils but his head tentacle to smell family cent .
Oh yeah, he hasn't grown a nose yet!
When it comes to Freeza's transformations, I would have liked each form being specialized, rather than a straight upgrade. The xenomorph form making Freeza more intelligent and allowing him to use very complex ki attacks, the ox form being very strong, ect. That would remove the idea of an "ultimate" form, and instead Freeza is demonstrating how sheer flexibility lets him exploit the weak points of his enemies.
Hey yeah, it could be like Deoxys forms!
When I was little I always thought that was the case. I thought that his 2.form was the strong one and his 3.form was the fast one.
Yeah to bad at this point if you are stronger it means you are both faster and stronger and can take more damage. They lost the sense of balance. Atleast Cell arc tried that but now that is gone.
I’d have liked that for all his earlier forms. I think it works for the final form to be superior, but then that he has trouble controlling the power of it and maintaining it… also creating a higher energy drain. Like his 100% power, but applied to the form itself. This would explain why he holds off on using it right away.
I feel like that is the case! At least to a certain extent. Obviously his first and fourth forms are the weakest and strongest, but he seems much more physical and brutal in 2nd, and his 3rd form (the little we saw of it) did come across as much more nimble plus it's where he unleashed his needle flurry ki blasts and nearly killed Piccolo.
I do agree forms are best when portrayed as side-grades with unique abilities rather than straight up power levels. It would've been great to have Frieza cycle through all his forms again in Ressurection F and the Tournament of Power as the situations called for it. (Third form vs Dyspo anyone??)
"Super" Buu feels more akin to what might have emerged from the cocoon had Toriyama had the wherewithal to realise not everyone shares his particular sense of humour. Whilst I do ultimately prefer the Majin Buu we got, this revised Buu at least retains some of the interesting, anarchic traits of his template. Things like a fixation on sweets and violent mood swings, only with this Buu it all comes through the prism of a complete brute as opposed to a child. He's still got that sense of "innocence" to a point.
He's also the last instance this arc has of anything halfway decent. Every revision made to Buu hereafter just lessens him.
Fair play to Tenshinhan and Chao Zu for dodging that attack
They may have been written out of this arc but they still show more impressive feats than most of the none saiyan cast do during this arc
It´s not a lot, but at least it´s something
I never understood the dislike for Piccolo's role in this arc. In my opinion his role in the Frieza and Cell arc was kinda infuriating. He gets a power up becomes the strongest for one fight and then gets instantly outclassed by the same villain he dominated before. It always felt like the story was saying "Know your place Piccolo." At least in this arc Toriyama didn't come up with a way to give Piccolo a power up beat Fat Buu then lose to Super Buu a day later and instead gave Piccolo a story relevant role that kinda continues his role from the Saiyan arc.
I agree with this. I actually really like piccolo in the Buu saga. The way he's used in the Freeza and Cell saga is kind of annoying to me. I like him in his teacher role.
Piccolo is not relevant at all in this arc,wtf are you on about?He does not even act like Piccolo,Toriyama's comedy has overtaken his character.His actions does not even move the plot,heck Gohan was more interested in fighting Dabura than freeing him,thats how irrelevant it is.
It more or less has to do with Piccolo not in an active fighting role in this arc. After re-reading this arc a while back, I enjoyed Piccolo taking on the mentor role throughout this part of the arc. He works as the straight man to the wildly inept Gotenks, and their chemistry together makes for my favorite scenes in this arc, but a small part of me does wish he got to have a fight, because I like the way Toriyama drew Piccolo's fight choreography.
Either way Piccolo is amazing, and a lot of the people don't like his role in the Boo arc because he's not an active fighter and being badass, while hating how he's basically Gotenks' babysitter, and has become the straight man in their comedy routine.
@@Thisdude850
>Chops Babidi to try and stop him
>Learns Fusion from Goku to teach the boys how to do it
>Stalls Boo from fighting the unready Gotenks
Yeah, totally irrelevant.
@@ThelronFjord Chopping Babidi is irrelevant sine he survives,Goku is the one to teach the fusion to the boys.
Stalling Buu is also irrelevant since Gotenks does not accomplish anything.So are you done grasping at straws?
What makes the moral decision for Piccolo to convince Boo to kill all the remaining Earthlings even more tragic, is that he still has shades of Kami inside of him, making it especially harder to make the suggestion to kill them all.
The ongoing DBD joke is that this isn't Piccolo, it's God in a Piccolo suit!
@@baraco8454 Exactly. God is the one we see. Piccolo faded into his subconscious.
9:49 I don’t think the idea is that Buu could not sense energy before now, more so that he didn’t really think about doing it. You said before that Buu was just a creature of pure Id. Evil Buu(or Super Buu or whatever) is still mostly Id, but now he has some Ego to go with it. He takes more practical steps to get what he wants.
Remember, he can’t actually sense Gotenks at the Lookout because he’s not there. Evil Buu can just sense “powerful people” at the Lookout, so he concludes that the challenger is hiding there. He uses a simple, but plausible logic to achieve his goals. Which is funny, because there’s no indication that Evil Buu is any *smarter* than what he was before, he just thinks a little differently.
When he kills the people of Earth, it never feels like he was trying to out smart Piccolo who is stalling for time. Evil Buu thinks that if he kills everyone on Earth as fast as possible, he can fight sooner. Thus, he kills everyone on Earth at once. It’s fun dynamic because you have Piccolo’s cunning up against Evil Buu’s unpredictable simple mindedness.
Since Fat Buu's personality is retconned later to be modeled after the dimwitted Grand Supreme Kai, it's a safe assumption to make that Super Buu's personality instead comes from the other Kai he absorbed, the South Supreme Kai, who was the strongest warrior of the Kais
Maybe he just got stronger and therefore could sense better?
@@theking8347 Interestingly enough, Evil Buu talks as though he is still the same person as Fat Buu. He remembers Goku telling him about the challengers and says he changed his mind about waiting as though he was the one talking to Goku. I think idea(initially) is that Evil Buu and Fat Buu are one in the same, the difference being that his innocent nature is suppressed and his evil side is dominant.
@@theking8347 that what I think too ! And I love that, because that would mean à Kaioshin with a huge ego and I love that concept !
Super buu has some personality especially when he doesn't want to become that Buu the really boring yet kinda interesting one
It's funny but Kid Buu is probably the worst form of Buu, and yet he's actually my favorite. I'm not sure if that's my memories of the anime adding some extra personality to his body language influencing me or not though.
I fricking love kid buu, he doesn't even talk but he still has so much personality, so fun to watch and at least is something else than Diet Freeza#21782179132749,
super buu is pretty much sitll fat buu in a way. he is still childish but he is alot more serious and lacks patiance like fat buu did.
man can't even wait an hour.
You going to mention the fact that Super Buu only has a thumb and finger and mittens
@@Sammy_the_best_there_ever_was It's weird, because the anime gives him fingers right out the gate while he doesn't get them in the manga until he starts absorbing people.
A lot of the people i know prefer buu's absorptions over the base super buu, and while the appeal is there, i just can't see it. Super buu is probably the most underrated in terms of Z's rouges gallery, with him being extremly clever in how he manages to pull one over gohan and gotenks later one proving he's not just a screaming idiot, and his introduction also being really tense as highlighted by the video
Speaking of, really great job as always! Keep it up
Yeah Super Buu is high under rated. Despite what people want to say about Frieza. Super Buu is the better villian. He was just pure evil and simply didnt mess around like the others
Super Buu more than any other form utilized two of his most prominent powers to its fullest extent: his ability to tear himself to pieces and come back, and also his power to absorb. Super Buu rage quits like a Boss. Blowing himself up because he knows he’ll survive, turning people into harmless objects when he’s getting annoyed, and absorbing them by surprise when he’s backed into a corner. He was my favorite form because he was a maniacal man child where as Fat Buu was just a Naive Child with incredible power.
Agreed completely. He's kinda ruined the moment he starts using absorption
It's funny how the Majin Buu transformation is kinda like a Super Saiyan transformation in that it's one of rage. I suppose Super Saiyan didn't come out of nowhere like this did tho. Also, it's weird to me that no comparison to Kami splitting up to become God of Earth was made in regards to Buu here. To be fair, other than mentioning it, I don't know exactly what Fusion would say about it... but it at least feels similar, especially since later on in Dragon Ball GT (even though that doesn't canonically count) Buu and Uub fuse back together again and do become stronger, just like our Piccolo in a God costume ;)
I thought the same thing about Kami and Piccolo splitting. It's kinda cool how, since we know that happened, it actually gives precedence to Buu's Evil and good splitting. Like you'd be like "oh yeah. That's a thing that can happen!"
@Dougurasufilm
I don't know how after 17 years, it just dawned on me upon seeing this assessment how similar Super Buu's transformation was to Kami casting out Piccolo. Hell what Buu's evil half did was similar to Piccolo's assimilation of Kami, but under less mutual circumstances.
@@DemonicRemption Haha no problem :b I always thought that was a neat parallel. But it's even more neat if you include GT. One of two halves dies and is respawned as a child. Piccolo Jr and Uub. And then later Majin Buu and Uub mutually fuse :b And in both instances their power ups turned out to be reasonably meaningless :b
@@Dougurasufilm And what makes Majuub Unique is that Majuub works like Piccolo from DBZA The MAin Personality is 100% Uub but Majin buu can talk to him!
I kind of wish we had gotten more of Gray Boo and Majin Boo as separate entities. Seeing Satan trying to support him as they're on the run, and maybe Boo making a final stand to protect him. Though maybe that's just cause I really wanted to see more of Boo and Satan together.
9 year watcher since release of the 21st Budokai Part 1 video, first time commenter. The part about Chi Chi's death and how not even the non-combatants aren't safe is part of the reason for me why I feel the Boo arc was the best place to end Dragon Ball. Even if I feel the previous 3 arcs are better, they still feel like "just another fight" in these peoples' lives: fighters against other fighters and the other people who get caught up in it and killed are mostly unnamed bystanders who we'll never see again even if they're revived.
But here it's those like Bulma and Oolong who've been around from the beginning. They're characters who simply don't die, the fight never reaches them. I remember reading those parts in episode summaries back when the UK was waiting for the Boo arc to start on TV and even reading that they get killed just felt incredibly wrong. After that and the Earth being destroyed later there's nowhere to go for a new villain that would feel effective. The "safe" characters have been killed and the villain has accomplished the ultimate threat the last 3 villains have made but failed to do by destroying the planet. You just can't really do that again and have anywhere near the same impact.
I mean, they've tried to increase the threat in the revival era by going "nonono it's the entire UNIVERSE and the afterlife with it too", but to me it's just like, "who cares? I've seen the safe characters die and the planet go with it once before", expanding into just a vague "everything" doesn't really work because Earth and the characters on it is almost the "everything" that I care about in this series. To be fair, GT tried by tying it in with Piccolo's permanent death and even Super's retelling of 'F' improved that bit in the film by showing some of victims getting caught in the planet's explosion but the impact is one again lessened because I've seen them all die before.
Exactly! This is what I've felt for years. Boo may not be my favorite arc, but it takes the concept and raises the stakes as far as they can reasonably go. And there's really been nowhere to go since then.
Astutely put.
i would personally also give a bit of credit to the Bebi arc in Gt because while we had the save characters die before had we never a big scale every hero and there allies are now on the side of evil scenario before. Especially with the uncertainty if the Possessionen can even be saved at all given that and earlier seemingly successful attempt to purge the invader with Trunks turned out to now have worked after all.
I still say that Frieza deciding to gradually transform makes sense... He doesn't want to feel like he's forced to use all the aces up his sleeve at once, especially against those whom he considers lower than himself.
He also done it to fuck with them, like he was lowering their confidence by showing how powerful he was, only to reveal he could transform further (mainly from his 3rd form to final form), or how he states he’s using like 50% of his power. It’s a sadistic pleasure to shut them down
@@aetherialbeing4223 This has always been my take on the matter. One of Frieza's most consistent character traits is how much of a kick he got out of others fearing him, and gradual transformations was one way to keep destroying any confidence his opponents found in battle. It was also exciting for fans IMO, I never saw it as an issue.
@@yeepsleep exactly, Frieza was extremely sadistic and enjoyed the fear, torture and humiliation his opponents would face when fighting him, him fucking with their confidence even more by lowering them into that false sense of security, only to take it from them right afterwards is probably the most Frieza thing I can imagine lol
Some episodes ago you mentioned that Toriyama's art degraded but I feel like he's bringing his A game when it comes to super Buu's expressions and body language
What I really loved about the skinny buu was that he WAS more powerful than the original Buu, it goes to show how much he’s been influenced by being evil and causing destruction. Also Super Buu is a hell of a lot more terrifying than I remember, he was literally able to make “killing the population” their only option for survival. That ALONE is powerful!
Edit: I also always saw Super Buu's height as a way of showing how he’s above them all. Particularly in power, he’s gotten so much stronger than them all to the point where everyone is just an inferiority to him and what he’s doing now *shows* that.
Personally, I think Chi-Chi's death is really well done. She stands her ground and proves that she is the mother she always said she was. She is so out of her depth and yet she tries her hardest to confront the threat. Boo coming to the "safe" non combatants at the lookout was always going to lead to their eventual deaths but seeing it happen to Goku's wife first feels different because of how adjacent she is to the main characters (Goku and Gohan respectively) and it really creates a sense of "who's next?". I think this is only really replicated in the Battle of Gods movie when the God of Destruction, a person who can effectively defeat Super Saiyan 3 Goku shows up at a party with all of our heroes. It makes the characters and by extension the viewer feel unsafe. Especially in Battle of Gods because they don't quite know what they've gotten themselves into.
They should have made Chi-Chi's death more powerful and let Cell kill her to unlock the power in Gohan instead of 16 who Gohan had 0 relationship with him.
@@andrebryant5081 Why would Cell have done that though? The threat alone of it happening if Gohan lost wasn't enough to push him over the edge. 16's speech and understanding that sometimes letting go and fighting is necessary is what drove Gohan to fight Cell not that 16 died. As Fusion mentions in his 14th(?) DBD on the call arc Gohan has almost no relationship with 16. It wasn't 16 that drove him to SSJ2 it was 16's message.
@@Kian30398 If Chi-Chi would have stand up to Cell and slap him who was clearly beaten up her unmotivated son in a fight to the death.
True but on the other hand it really bothers me that it took Chi-Chi's death for Goten and Trunks, especially Goten, to start giving a damn about learning Fusion, before that they were acting like petulant brats.
@@Bardim18 If Piccolo Daimao appeared in the Red Ribbon Arc(Not counting how utterly screwed Goku and Co. would be obviously) I don't think Goku would take him as seriously as he did in the Piccolo arc. Kids will be kids. Fighting was a game to them until the game got serious. Honestly I could draw a comparsion between kid Goku losing Krillin and Goten losing Chi-Chi it's a very similar moment for both. It definitely causes them to take the threat seriously where they normally didn't take threats seriously and treated it like a game somewhat.
18:00 Goten has always been the cute, puppy dog sidekick to Trunks, and never really had his own agency as a character, so it was nice to throw him a bone for once (even if that bone was witnessing the savage murder of his own mother). Hell, even GT does a better job at making Goten his own character than Toriyama did.
The narration is especially jarring since Tori did a decent job at showing instead of telling (slim Buu looks much more evil and violent, kills relentlessly, and so on) only to then...tell in the most obvious fashion.
It's not as obvious as you think. From just looking at it, many people are under the misconception that Evil Buu is simply a more powerful, evil version of Buu created from his rage. But the narrator instead makes it clear that Evil Buu is a manifestation of his evil half, *split* from the Good Buu.
@@TonyMishima92 How much honest difference does that make, though?
i mean, we did just see normal buu wipe out cities
@@MajorLawliet 1) It makes a huge difference in terms of characterization. Pre Split Fat Buu and Post Split Good Buu are technically two different beings. The latter not capable of prior evil deeds because the evil is expelled from him, not because he simply turned good talking to Mr. Satan.
It also makes a difference in terms of powerscaling. Pre Split Buu is stronger than Post Split. Most of the pre existing power went to Evil Buu, as opposed to Good Buu keeping all his power and just creating a more powerful Buu from his rage.
@@TonyMishima92 If it really worked on the terms you describe, that would be terrible and nonsensical to me. We already saw a good and bad divide with the Nameless Namekian. Not only did the "evil" side show he was capable of more, unless we wanna argue his "resurrection" shouldn't abide by the same rules, it reduces Kami and Buu terribly to "no evil now, good guy". Not to mention, nothing ever indicated Satan just "made him good", he simply appealed to that potential side of his. You know, as if he was a more complex, not 1-dimensional character.
It makes no difference from a powerscaling perspective. Unless you assumed Evil Buu was made from literally nothing, therefore Buu created something stronger than himself from literally nothing, as Mistare points out, you couldn't make it more obvious that Evil Buu has most of the power. He's dominating, and easily.
The Buu Saga reminds me of Iron Man 2 & Age of Ultron; not the best movies in the MCU collection, but they are packed with isolated moments of awesomeness. The same can be said about the Buu arc.
It's sad to see the fat Boo go, but this new Majin Boo makes one hell of a first impression. Unfortunately, that won't last and he'll basically become Diet Cell, who, in turn, is Diet Freeza. The Majin Boo Arc has a lot of the best moments of the series in isolation, but they're very messily put together as Toriyama was either trying to figure out what direction to take the story or was going back to his old ways he's been set in for so long. It's a shame because the chapters involving Majin Boo and Mr. Satan really play to Toriyama's strengths as a writer and it would have been better to stick with that instead of falling back on tired old tropes.
How is Cell diet Freeza?
Nathan Walker in every way. They have the exact same personality but Cell is even worse because he doesn’t seem to have any goals
@@spinceiling7442 In what way? Cell believed he couldn’t ever be bested as he was the byproduct of the super computer.
He sets up the Cell games in order to prove himself at the top of the power hierarchy but his mistake is believing that there’s a pinnacle in the first place. Dragon Ball since its conception has always emphasized the need for continual growth in order to avoid stagnation and complacency. This was Roshi’s entire point during the 21st BT and why he adopted the Jackie Chun persona in the first place to ensure Goku and Krillin don’t succumb to this pitfall.
Freeza on the other hand knows he’s not the strongest and that’s why he fears mortality and the potential of the saiyans. We see him constantly questioning if Vegeta is possibly the Super Saiyan of legend and is quite clearly weary of that.
Freeza masks his vile ugliness, contempt for others, and even insecurities about his own power behind a false wall of aristocratic class, manners, and even magnanimity (that's also dripping with snide irony)
Toriyama had no idea what he was doing for the simple fact he didnt care.
By the end of the arc, he was basically reading letters from fans and applying that they wanted to see...you want Vegeta back? sure, you want Goku back? sure, you want them to fuse? sure.
@@Jose-se9pu
What are you basing this information on? If it's from the fan rumor that the fans forced Toriyama to bring back Goku as the main character in place of Gohan, that's false. Toriyama himself was doing whatever he wanted to do and the fans had no influence on him. He himself states he didn't think Gohan fit the role as main character, that's why Goku came back.
If Buu becomes Diet Cell, and Cell was already Diet Freeza, does that make Buu "Freeza Zero"?
God, I fucking love how you bring up shit that I never would have thought of, and then I end up being like “Yeah, actually, I guess that is right!” All of your points, even when I disagree with them, are so refreshingly unique and VERY well justified.
Sheesh, good think Buu's blast didn't reach Penguin Village, right? I mean, that would be horrifying... right?
Arale would've dodged it. Or tanked it.
And everyone else would've just been comically singed with ashes on their faces.
Oh cool, so we've reached the point where this story just breaks down completely for me. Like...I agree with Fusion that the tension they're able to get out of the Reset Terms that this new ("Super") Buu presents is Generally Good, but you can also FEEL the story getting shakier and shakier the longer it tries to keep that tension going, because the further into it we go the less the Character Stuff that makes it work at the outset really matters (indeed, Piccolo's attempt to use Videl to pacify Buu strikes me as fairly UNconvincing, because it requires us to accept that the mercurial Buu would not only care about that, but that he'd take Piccolo at his word that she is who he says she is). It's also hard to miss how this new Buu relates so thinly to the original; with Freeza and Cell, they remained fundamentally the same being throughout their transformations, regardless of how well you might've liked who that being was as a Character. New Buu is an almost COMPLETE reset, and one that happens so abruptly that it makes it VERY hard for me to invest in the character long-term because I have no reason to believe he won't just get arbitrarily reset AGAIN before this is all over (and indeed that is exactly what happens twice, arguably thrice). We still have juuuuust enough going on here that works, as Fusion says Piccolo's new role here is dynamic and engaging and the Genocide Blaster moment really is a great one, but this is also basically the last point at which I have ANYTHING nice to say about the Buu Saga.
Buu actually checks if Videl is daughter of Satan though he doesn't take Piccolo's words for granted.
I'm really happy how positive you are about (super) Buu since he was one of the characters I was MOST shocked to enjoy upon my reread a few years back. I always considered him "The end of the fun" but he's just as silly, elastic and creatively malicious as Fat Buu was. Except he's WAY scarrier. Something about his sheer presence send chills down my spine. I'd argue he does a better job of copying Frieza than Cell does in that regard. Because at the end of the day, Buu isn't...that scary looking. (Neither is Frieza) but the presence he commands and the way his presence affects the people around him really brings that tension. When you see him looking at that hour glass you're scared because at any moment he could decide not to heed it and kill everyone there, like he promised.He's moody and impulsive and has enough power to get away with it. And yet he still hasn't quite lost that childish silly side of him. He took what Buu did and turned it even more nightmarish. As much as I think fat buu is the superior form I can't deny that this is a great way to have your cake and eat it too.
I can see that the future schedule is going to look like this (excluding Super Sentai):
DBDTV: Cell Arc.
DBDTV: The Other World Tournament arc.
DBD: Movie 12.
DBD: Boo Arc.
I don't necessarily think it's a narrative problem that Frieza chooses not to transform until he absolutely HAS to. It's like Goku being too relaxed during fights and leaving himself open to attack. It's an obvious character flaw, in Frieza's case it's Pride. He doesn't feel he SHOULD have to exert himself so he holds back until he needs to get serious. There's also the case that once he hits 100% his stamina drains extremely quickly.
For all we know (and consider that Dragonball massively slows down the fights which often take place over the course of less than an hour - The ToP was under an hour in-universe) all his transformations have a power drain which only gets worse the more of his full power he taps into. For that reason his excuse for not transforming is twofold: Pride, and Practicality. Sure he can blow someone away with his full power, but then he is the Lord of the Universe. He really shouldn't have to exert himself. Pride.
That said I love your read and interpretation into why 'Evil Buu' shows up and the metaphor that violence urges and murderous desire can consume a person. In Buu's case his rage and violence literally eats him alive. I doubt even Toriyama thought of it that deeply and just used it as a way to raise the stakes.
As for Cell, you could argue it's a metaphor for *"be careful what you wish for"* , all Cell wanted was to reach perfection. He never planned on what he'd do once he became perfect. It's like *"Where do I go from here?"* , alot of us have dreams we want to achieve - but don't plan what to do once we reach them. Retirement is a goal many of us strive for all our working lives...But are left aimless and without goals once we DO retire.
I think the "problem" with Frieza is less that his pride holds him back from just getting the fight over with, but rather that it does so across multiple transformations. Frieza has not one, not two, but three transformations, and even after that his final full power buff could arguably qualify as a forth transformation.
It's a formula that gets stale when every time the heroes think they maybe have a chance, Frieza just whips out a new form, and it's a repetitiveness made all the worse because it's never even a shocking revelation. Frieze is constantly taunting the heroes about how much he's holding back. He's pretty much the granddaddy of every, _"This isn't even my final form meme."_
@@EmeralBookwise I always viewed Frieza's forms as mostly unnecessary. I mean, even his base form is supposed to be like 4x stronger than Ginyu. There's really no reason his fight with Vegeta and Piccolo couldn't have just happened in his first form, then change to fourth when Goku shows up, then 100% against SSJ.
@@Freefall347: Yeah, although I do think final form could have still shown up when it did for Dende's death Vegeta's last stand. I mean that's supposed to be when the true terror of just how out classed they are sinks in and what makes Goku showing up when he did so dramatic.
Second and third form though were pretty much entirely pointless, and 100% didn't really need to be a thing either, since even at full power Frieza was still wasn't any match for the Super Saiyan.
Nailed it well said
I could be completely wrong here, but wasn't the reason for Frieza not transforming until he HAD to was to exhaust Goku and the others? Like not only does he get stronger but also heal most if not all damage inflicted on his previous forms? If that is the case the strategic element to his choice to do that is a valid take, demoralize his opponents while showing them just how futile their attempts are AND inflate his secretly fragile ego all at the same time.
It's honestly kind of jarring how little roles people want characters to fill in DB. Either they are fighters or they are useless to them.
It's because Toriyama struggles to accommodate the majority of non-fighters as the manga shifts from comedy/adventure to action. Hence the ever-growing peanut gallery. People typically object to their favourites being consigned to irrelevance, as defined by the story.
Yet I find the contemporary fixation on "feats" to be much more dull.
IMO this is the issue a lot of Shounen face when they don’t have a ton of variety in forms of combat or roles. Like how in Naruto it is set up that specializing in one of the 3 types of ninja combat being different benefits or how each team needs a member with a different role. That’s good for keeping other characters relevant, but eventually it devolves into energy attacks and pretty much nothing else matters aside from your bloodline and skill at 1 type of combat.
Hence where other better Shounen learn and let characters fill unique roles where they can still be useful and supportive even if they can’t fight
Maybe you mentioned it in an earlier part and I just forgot, but does this arc remind you a lot of the Piccolo Arc? Beginning with a tournament, our hero is called to stop a revived ancient evil when it brings significant harm to someone close to him. In an initial encounter, our hero is presumed dead and his mentor must teach a desperate technique to the next strongest fighter while the antagonist goes on a terroristic spree of global destruction? Honestly, if Goku and Vegeta were not in this arc, it probably would have ended extremely similar as well.
I do like the start of Buu's transformations, as they are not foreshadowed or expected, as you mention in the video. Later on it's it's gonna be a bit too much, whenBuu starts absorbing people. He almost becomes a Cell clone.
Also, im at the end of the Cell arc in my watchthrough of all of DB in Japanese, so look forward to DBD TV!
YES!
Piccolo's schemes and fighting against impossible odds was honestly one of my favorite things in the buu arc. Super underrated.
It's moments like this one and the one in the last chapter is why I personally prefer Boo over Cell - Boo's higher heights go way higher than Cell, even though it's lows go lower too.
“Died, yes, Jesus. We’ve literally all done it.”
“I haven’t.”
“Give it some time! You’re hanging with the right crowd.”
Boo really does lose all his charm after he absorbs Gotenks and Piccolo, he becomes Cell 2.0 (Who he himself was Freeza 2.0), so that would also make Bootenks Freeza 3.0.
This is super enjoyable and makes me appreciate the Buu saga more now.
Just leaving a comment for engagement. Amazing quality as usual.
I do like how buu expelling evil buu then getting consumed by it parallels piccolo and kami.
This form of Boo is probably my favourite villain in dragon ball (though I enjoy all the Boo forms tbh). He’s so weird and unhinged but there’s still touches of the original fat Boo in him. Plus I think he just looks really cool
Kudos on quoting Jon Finkel. That was someone I didn't expect
"he gets a power-up, looks cool for a few minutes, and then gets the crap beaten out of him"
Sums up Vegeta in the Super manga.
The bit where the narrator tells that Evil Buu took most of the power was given to Piccolo explaining to Dende in the anime, at least.
The whole thing where Super Buu kills off the population…isn’t it a bit of wasted opportunity? We only see a bunch of random people getting destroyed and no one we’ve spent time with (Gohan's classmates, Bulma's parents since they refused to come along to the lookout, #17, Launch). That would’ve made the killings a lot more poignant and not just a generic statement of how depraved the new Buu is. Even the anime didn’t capitalize on it which just made the scene feel disingenuous.
I went to watch a video of the Human Extinction Attack and someone in the comments reminded me that Buu definitely murdered the kid whose eyesight he had just repaired not that long ago. That realization hit a bit harder than I expected it to. Imagine if that had been shown onscreen.
@@TheAzulmagia I almost forgot about him. You’re right.
@@TheAzulmagia it's possible he was spared as Buu took a liking like to Hercule and Bee.
Only to die when the earth gets blown up later.
@@nicholassims9837 Possibly. Might’ve been interesting to see him again when the Genki-dama is being gathered and see him struggle to help the heroes kill Buu or sit it out.
@@asherzerbib3461 to bad we dont see that seen even through is killing a different Buu .
Super Buu is one of my favorite Dragon Ball villains. It makes me very happy to hear you give praise to him. I can understand his absorption forms feeling like a lesser copy of previous villains, but I still find joy for them too. 😊
Piccolo is my favorite DB character and I enjoyed Piccolo's role and how he keeps being the smartest person in the room. But I think there are a few things why I'm not 100% satisfied
1) He's useful NOW, but soon everyone will die except for major fighters and him, and Piccolo will just hang around like a dummy. In all previous arcs and many movies, he gets to help from the side, one of my favorite moments being a single kick to Frieza, that allowed Goku to charge a spirit bomb.
He was already robbed from fighting Supreme Kai and Dabura, third time it's hard to ignore how sidelined he gets from fighting. A little "Tien slows down Cell" type of moment would help a lot. Frankly, he could just die earlier.
2) I understand that the kids/Piccolo pairing is comedic, but considering the stakes, I just keep getting frustrated with two twerps (like you said, Goten watched his mother die, then he will goof) and I feel bad for Piccolo for being forced to endure it. It stark contrast to "beating Gohan into shape" days.
3) This leads me to the fact that I don't like Trunks and Goten as "saviors". They were fine in the tournament when stakes were low, now that the world is on the line, I have no patience for their antics, the same way you don't have patience for Vegeta. (Both Fathers dead? Time to act like a stupid kid). So on a subconscious level I despise that Goku/Vegeta/Gohan are gone and Piccolo finally has the opportunity to take main stage... and it goes to those brats.
I know the arc was about the "next generation" but the concept will be abandoned anyway, plus those brats don't feel like they deserve to take Goku's mantle.
4) Retroactively, this is the end of Piccolo. GT, Super and Dragon Ball Heroes will treat him like garbage. It's easy to point to this arc and say "Yep, this is the day that ruined Piccolo". And I know, Tien and Yamcha went through the same thing, but as much as you dislike this, many people care most about the "Z" part of the franchise. From their point of view, Piccolo was always the main player, Yamcha was always the background one. (And while I read all of Dragon Ball, I just found myself drawn to Piccolo more than Yamcha.)
Side note, most of the time I hate the "passing torch" trope because most time it means a character I like (Goku, Marvel Heroes, Optimus Prime) is being replaced a worse character, probably a lesser clone of OG or someone who goes through same motions of "gosh, how can I live up to legacy?"
It can work as proven in My Hero Academia, but the show is from Next Gen's perspective. Deku has the same power as All-Might, but is a unique and interesting character, working much better than Gohan, Goten or Trunks.
You are correct about Piccolo, he is forced to act out of character to react in over the top ways to Gotenks gags, and since he is tied to the hip with Gotenks, his usefullness is tied to Gotenks which means he will still be useless just like him, but unlike Gotenks who is strong and useless he will be weak and useless.
He even gets blue balled from killing Babidi thats far worse than anything before because Babidi surviving doesn't amount to anything, he is just isn't allowed to do anything.
@@Thisdude850 I do like he went after Babidi in the first place. It's very Piccolo to to something others overlook. And I kinda get Babidi getting killed by Boo has bigger impact story wise. It helps rise the tension.
Togashi just took all of toriyamas villians, combined them all and added his own twist to create one fantastic antagonist.
Which Togashi villain are you talking about in particular? Meruem, or Toguro?
@@GMan873
Meruem
Or i guess you could say toguro is like the opposite of frieza. Someone desperate for inmortality but over time realizes he truly didnt want that
Being willing to offer up the rest of the population of earth to amuse Buu until Gotenks is ready is probably the most Piccolo that Piccolo has been since he absorbed Kami. Then again, you could argue Kami was never very good at safeguarding the lives of the people of earth anyway, huh?
10:30 First you went for the Vegeta fans and now the Piccolo fans. Been thinking this for years but you are a very brave person for finally putting this out there lmao
Anyone else audibly cheer with the announcement of DBDTV returning?
No?
Just me?
Not the only one. XD
I really want to hear what Lance has to say about the filler before the cell games.
12:27 correct me if I'm wrong, but isn't that the very last panel Chaozu was ever in? He doesn't follow Tenshinhan later on in the story, and I don't remember seeing him at the 28th Tenkaichi Budokai.
I think you might be right!
@@MistareFusion I think it might also be true for the anime, he pretty much disappears after that, and isn't seen until Episode 288 at the "Z-Party".
I've always preferred Super Buu (and Kid Buu) to Fat Buu, mainly because I like villain characters and he's more of an outright villain than Fat Buu was (I still like Fat Buu though). I like how those core Buu traits that Fat Buu displayed have now been twisted with him. His hedonism now manifests as an impatient demand for instant gratification, he no longer has a happy mode for his mood swings (replaced with being detached and creepy), and his silliness now primarily manifests when he's mocking his opponents (until the absorptions begin, more on that later). On that note, even his instant killing of the remainder of Earth's population feels like a low-key dark gag with a set up and then subversion of expectations as the punch line.
And I still like him when he starts absorbing people too. Yeah, he becomes more like Freeza and Cell in personality, but I view it more as Buu coming into his full potential as a fighter (which calls back to what Fusion noted earlier about Buu starting to recognize his own worth shortly before fighting Goku). "Buutenks" and "Buuhan" (I hate those names and am only using them here for expediency) represent what Buu is like when he approaches fighting as seriously as Goku and Vegeta do and not just as a hedonistic pleasure or something to do to people who anger him. Lastly, even "Buuhan" celebrates like a silly child both times he thinks he's beaten Vegetto, so the goofy manchild that Buu is at heart is still there even in that state, just hidden underneath all the Freeza/Cell-like bluster he gained through those absorptions. Plus he looks cool with the super long head tentacle and more human-like facial features.
As for him becoming more like Freeza and Cell in personality with these absorptions, keep in mind that the one constant character in all his absorption forms is Piccolo, the character that was originally the prototypical Dragon Ball supervillain. Taking that into account, it makes sense that he becomes more like a typical Dragon Ball supervillain after absorbing Piccolo: Piccolo's father/previous incarnation was the original template for Dragon Ball supervillains. Though Piccolo himself is far from being evil at this point, it's still his characteristics being filtered through an evil personality.
Lastly, ditto on Piccolo's role here being the best use of him in quite a while. People who complain about him not fighting anymore are flat out ignoring how skillfully he's used here, both as the defacto-leader of the group that has to treat with Buu and as a mentor figure/straight man to Gotenks. It's a far better role for him than the red-hearing cannon fodder roles he's had for a while now. Plus I like how even though Dende is officially God now, the dynamic we saw earlier with him deferring to Piccolo for godly decisions is still in play here with Piccolo being the one to take the reigns in negotiating with Buu. It's almost like he's stepped back into his old job as the God of Earth, but as the complete being he originally was before his good side took the position after casting out his evil side. Seeing Piccolo act in this capacity is a nice subtle way to bring his character arc full circle.
Your thoughts made me appreciate Piccolo being a non fighter this saga really made me appreciate his role on here more. Because of that, I probably would've been okay with him & Krillin not fighting anymore in Super.
Coach Piccolo is the best Piccolo.
I think it's pretty criminal that a thoughtful analysis about Dragon Ball only gets over 5k in 6 hours, while clickbaity garbage videos by Geekdom101 get 20k in an hour. CRIMINAL, I TELL YA!
considering most fans of the show only have seen Z, and only care about fighting and more transformations, it makes sense sadly.
You know someones content is lowkey garbo when you have to bring down a different creator just to feel better about yourself yikes 💀
@@zetokaiba5867 But I didn't bring down MistareFusion.
This is the first DBD episode in wich i stopped smoking. (completly unrelated but for me its worth to mention)
Congratulations! I hope you keep it up.
Even as a kid i couldn't help but be scared for the characters when Super Buu was thete. I knew he could kill anyone at any time and he couldnt be stopped for the longest. He was incredibly imposing like that
It seems like the people who complain about Piccolo not fighting here and being put in this babysitter/mentor role are apart of a crowd that not only values a character *only* because they fight, but also apart of a crowd who only ever wants to see the same thing happening over and over.
Piccolo twice has been put in a position of fake relevance by free power boosts that only allow him a few cool fights before he's totally wasted with nothing to do.
He gets to fight 2nd form Freeza for a bit, then Freeza transforms and wrecks him.
He gets to fight 1st form Cell in an even shorter confrontation, then Cell absorbs a bunch of people and wrecks him.
And people want him to fight Boo because? At this point he'd just get wrecked and you can't even potentially count on something like the Nappa fight happening with Boo because fights in late DB have long since stopped working like that. So all Piccolo fans would want to see here is Piccolo sandbagging to yet another villain and not even getting a decent fight out of it. It'd just be repetitive.
The scene where Piccolo barters the lives of the whole planet to buy some time was always one of my favorite scenes. I feel like he was just one of the only characters who could've believably attempted that without me disliking them for it. For example if the story was different and Goku tried to pull that, well it would feel less like "The right but unfortunate play" and more like "Goddamnit Goku! I KNOW you just wanna see a cool fight!" The only other character's I could see attempting that would be like... Tien.
I was about to say that Vegeta was the first transforming villain, but then I remembered Demon King Piccolo. He got a permanent transformation of sorts by going from old to young, which was a power upgrade. It took the dragonballs to do it and Vegeta's later transformation needed the moon/energy ball thing but in terms of the story, all of these transformations serve the same purpose: a narrative explanation for why the character is suddenly stronger.
I had forgotten why Piccolo was my favorite DB character along with Krillin for some time. This episode reminded me why I loved Piccolo so much during this arc!
Piccolo is gone. You mean you love God in this arc. I don't understand why people think Piccolo getting green balled in the Freeza and Cell arcs is better than his role here. In those arcs he gets a powerup but even with the huge problem of only the strongest guy matters trope centers around him. In those arcs he is just there to buy time for the ones who actually get to do something.
The Spartan Piccolo is pretty much gone
@@bryanc7094 I pretty much said that.
Complexity and buu feel like words that don't go together.
YES! DBD TV IS BACK!
And I really like this portion of the story, Of How Boo's Transformations is diffrent from Freeza's and Cell's and how genuinely terrifying he is. And how Piccolo has to convince him to wait for an extra hour. Can’t wait to hear your thoughts on the TV adaptation of the Cell Arc!
Enjoying my breakfast with a new DBD video, just amazing
I was just rewatching a few of the older videos when you uploaded this. My timing is impeccable :3
One thing I like about dragon ball super is that it introduce character that don't have to transfrom to get stronger. Beerus, Whis, Hit and most of universe 6 team, zamsu, jiren and Toppo( Toppo doesnt transfrom in the manga I think). Speaking of the manga the new granola arc has a villian that doesn't transform he only uses his overwhelming strength, technology and tatics.
Sorry to let ya down but I'm pretty sure Toppo transforms in both.
@@yotomoe5953 dang, sorry about that
@@yotomoe5953 No? Unlike the anime Toppo stays in his chubby Lorax look. Doesn’t really have a manga exclusive transformation either.
@@unoriginalusername1472 You're right. I just reread and he didn't. That's so weird I remembered him doing it for some reason. My bad.
Yeah the narrator is clearly out of place here, and i do feel sad that nothing comes out of Goten's new mentality other then this scenes, really, i think that the moment Toriyama introduced Goku again to the story he completely forgot about Goten as his own character, tried now to bring Goten into being his own character... Only for him to forget about that, because Gotenks is much better as a comedy relif character...
I love this Boo the best since he has the perfect balance of Crazy and gets straight to the point.
His form of killing is not with slow torture, but how creative he can get.
God, nothing tells you it’s gonna be a good Sunday like that intro song 😤🤘🏻
Looking forward to DBDTV!
Listening to these vids again has been helping alot with me getting through my chronic illness and cope. Thanks mistarefusion
Yay! Another episode of DBD!
Honestly, if you needed a more serious villain than Fat Boo to be the big Dragon Ball Z esque end boss, here’s a novel concept.
Have Enma send Bobbidi sent to purgatory upon his death, since he was killed by a demon (Majin Boo). While his soul wanders, he senses the souls of Dabra and Vegeta, each inhabiting Heaven and Hell respectively. Reaching out with his magic, which is far beyond Enma’s power due to him being weaker than _Kaio,_ he links the minds of both, which gives Vegeta a mind, and in turn his body back, and he starts a ruckus in Hell just as his soul is about to be cleansed. Dabra finds him in Hell per Bobbidi’s soul’s guidance, and once they do, Bobbidi’s soul merges their bodies into a new Madoushi named Akuishin, the God of Malice, who possesses power similar to Gohan’s due to being a Saiyan hybrid.
Differences:
- Fat Boo stays fused, with a merger of him and Gohan being the only one who could possibly stand up to Super Saiyan 3 Akuishin. Evil Boo doesn’t exist.
- Gotenks only uses Super Saiyan 3 as a gag where the punchline is that his head comically bursts into a sparky explosion when he tries to use it. He only uses Super Saiyan 2 during the actual fight.
- Ultimate Gohan is completely removed, being replaced by the Old Kaioshin’s ritual simply allowing Gohan to transform at will like Goku seemingly can rather than having to draw out that power like he did against Kibito.
- Kibito gets character development by coming to trust Gohan, and becoming a member of the Dragon Team to fight for the good of the universe, regardless of Kaioshin tradition.
- Goku comes back briefly when Akuishin breaks the barriers between the living world and Anoyo, and he ends up leaving the living world again by choice at the behest of his wife and kids after Goten and Trunks come to realize that he is the revered legend everyone told stories of.
- Gohan, Videl, Goten, and Kibito become the next main cast, with Trunks as the rival figure.
Editors probably demanded the villains have multiple forms especially with buu. More forms means more variety of toys and merchandise which is where most of the money is made.
Don’t be stupid, the editors saved this manga
I'm pretty sure Toriyama was free to do whatever the hell he wanted at this point. Like, the entire reason Vegito and the Potara earrings even existed is because Toriyama wanted to have Goku and Vegeta fuse, but Fusion Reborn was already using that idea, so he retconned the Supreme Kai's earrings (that were originally just for decoration) into being fusion items and made Vegito.
Lol okay guys ur right.. do research on all shows and movies... all the money is made on merch.
Ah yes, the last decent bits of the arc until the end of the final battle.
Ooooohhhh Im SUPER excited for this next DBD Tv!!! I almost forgot about that little series.
New DBZ Dissection Woot Woot! Time to do the dance of joy!!!
14:10 Zamasu: Am I being mocked?
I think so
Just a comment on Frieza's ability to transform at will, I think it actually works incredibly well. Frieza was the first and I mean the FIRST real big bad the series had, at least in my opinion. When we were introduced to Frieza he was a cocky, arrogant and prideful dictator who adores playing with the lives of those below him. His ability to transform at will only better serves his arrogance. I mean, what's more fulfilling than fighting someone with a hand tied behind your back knowing at any moment you wanted, you could untie your hand and obliterate them.
I'd say Frieza's ability to transform exceeds higher than Cells who, really only transforms because of Frieza anyways. Main point being, where Cell has a goal until his final form, the goal to be perfect, Frieza always has a goal, to toy with people in order to prove he is the best. The only time he fights seriously is when Goku manages to live up to the legend of the Super Saiyan, a legend Frieza not only feared but deemed impossible. Only by literally facing off against impossibility did Frieza drop his act and for the first time in probably his entire life, fought seriously.
If that isn't better than Cell wanting to achieve perfection and then, really not even achieving his goal anyways, I don't know what is.
You make some good points.
Yeah the dread is done well with this Buu. I do love how Piccolo finally gets some time to show why he is among the smartest of the gang. I know he is pretty much just Kami but hey. So yeah fun to see him do this. And you know when you mentioned it is to bad this has to end with a big fight and etc. Just an What If idea. Let´s say Buu turns good the good guys don´t have to fight him. But then it appers that Dabura got sent to Hell and that was a misstake, he absorbs all the evil power and similar to Janemba Hell breaks apart and he returns to fight Buu but now as a creature not willing to fight Dabura takes the evil that was inside Buu and somehow merges kind of becoming a Janemba quallity character and that is who Gotenks and Gohan has to fight. But yeah just a funny idea but clearly not something I would have wanted from what we got.
4:10 Because Japan loves things that do that.
More than meets the eye!
17:06
Also, why an egg specifically? Could it be symbolic of her entire role in this series? Merely an egg to compliment Goku's sperm and nothing more?
I always wished this skinny buu stays around abit longer.
Yeah I mean how would he fair against any of the other characters
I agree that the Narration wasn't needed to explain what is happening. That's the point of Manga as a visual medium, to show not tell.
Huh, you won me over to this version of Buu, nice job!
I feel bad for Goten during this part of the series.
His father died before he was born(Also is still dead during this part), thinks his brother is dead and whatched his mother turn into an egg and crushed.
Those last two are just days apart as well!
When I first saw that scene in the anime, I would fanfic a story where while in the RoT&S he had a dream of him having a picnic with his father, mother, and brother, happy they were all alive. Of course it did become reality a day later.
@@agerard6297 That's really cute.
I never really got why most of the power went to the skinny Boo when they split. It just seems kind of arbitrary. Probably could have just said they both got half and skinny Boo just outsmarted fat Boo by blowing back the candy beam.
Most of Fat Buu's power only came out when he got angry, and Evil Buu took the "angry power".
oh man, I've been waiting so long for the next DBD TV! Can't wait!
I do wonder though, why did super Buu not try harder to kill Tien and chiaotzu? He probably could've killed them if he bothered a bit more
Good luck with your Cell TV videos! I imagine you'll soon have a lot to say about dream sequences and how Chichi gets murdered in two of them.
Man, the praise and promise in these chapters really makes me disappointed about what could’ve been with Goten and his share in Gotenks’ personality.
We’re already at episode 20 and it feels like we’re not even half way there. I think switching to DBDTV is a good move on your part, you don’t want to burn yourself out on Boo while also working on Zyrurangers and any other projects like the Donkey Kong video.
Great stuff as always.
There are only two volumes of the manga left and we‘re still in the penultimate volume. Granted, the last two volumes are significantly bigger than all the other 40 volumes, but we‘re reaching the finale maybe next year or so.
Did not expect a reference to Jon Finkel in my Dragon Ball video
Shout out to the Toy manufacturers getting a skinny/evil Buu action figure made.
Shout out to my Mom for getting it for me.
*crying in a corner because I missed this episode on Toonami and had no idea what that toy was*
I remember getting the one where you put the skinny Super Buu in with the rubber fat Buu. It wasn't the same as yours but reading this comment made me remember getting it.
I personally believe Super Buu standing on the lookout, with Piccolo just barely being able to negotiate with him, is among Dragon Ball’s scariest moments, purely for how tense it is. At any moment, with the tiniest slip up, Buu may lose patience and kill them all in an instant.
I love to see the ancient forms of Buu in a prequel
Going to say I like Evil Buu killing the gunman with his hand shaped like a gun in the anime . I find it more appealing then the generic hand palm.
After all the goodwill we saw in the last chapter, we are back at the villain getting his obligatory transformation in preparation for the big dumb fights, because this is Dragon Ball, Bandai needs to sell toys, and Toriyama doesnt care anymore.
Another thing to consider that Freeza and Cell'sl transformations there still the same person but Majin Buu is different in teme of personality as would you consider Evil Buu , Super Buu and Kid Buu as the same being. Evil and Super maybe as we see very little of Evil so Super might be his whole personality but Kid acts like a wild animal . On a side note would Fat Buu's fight with Kid Buu be considered a rematch with Evil Buu just fighting a different form ?
the diffrent buus have acouple things in common. love for candy and being childish. super buu is just alot more restrained on the 2nd one but it still happens.
@@megamike15 and seeing how technically Evil Buu does change into Kid Buu does Fat Buu's fight with the latter count as a rematch with the former?