Fighting Back: Children battle against leukemia (1980) - The Fifth Estate

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  • Adrienne Clarkson tells the story of four children with leukemia and their struggles to survive. They include Michael Cluff, 13; Karen Clark, 9; Tony Coutinho, 16; and Theresa Pickett, 9. Filmed at the War Memorial Children's Hospital in London, Ont., Fighting Back focuses on the bond of mutual support formed among the children, their parents and the staff. This documentary earned producer John Kastner one of the four Emmy Awards he received during his career.
    First broadcast: January 29, 1980
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  • @purplepeopleeater6880
    @purplepeopleeater6880 Рік тому +117

    I think little Theresa was very brave and courageous. She was able to stand up for herself even though she was so physically weakened and in so much pain. What a beautiful child ❤❤❤

    • @Dipdipdogshit
      @Dipdipdogshit Рік тому +11

      Her little face broke me. That poor sweet child, very brave ❤

    • @jennybyrd2818
      @jennybyrd2818 11 місяців тому +3

      I fully agree

    • @all4mom-xv1hp
      @all4mom-xv1hp 10 місяців тому +5

      I hope she didn't literally bleed to death at home; that would have been horribly traumatic for her family to witness, helpless to do anything about it.

    • @kimbobby3046
      @kimbobby3046 7 місяців тому +4

      I agree. Those beautiful eyes and tiny nose. I'm glad she got to say enough is enough. She went through enough. God bless her

    • @vivenrodrigo8685
      @vivenrodrigo8685 2 місяці тому +1

      @@all4mom-xv1hpone of my cousin died of this as a teen. She literally throw up a bucket of blood. It was so sad.

  • @rkuklinsky5352
    @rkuklinsky5352 4 роки тому +103

    in 2005 at the age of 5, my son Henry-Louis was diagnose with Acute non-Lymphoblastic Leukemia M5 Type, at that time he only had 5 percent chance of surviving it, after long and painful experimental treatment and against all odds he survive, today he is 20, and in perfect health, but a couple of side effects will stay with him for the rest of is life!

    • @celinapenteado1556
      @celinapenteado1556 4 роки тому +13

      God bless your son. May he live a long and happy life.

    • @jecrispy8217
      @jecrispy8217 4 роки тому +8

      Amen

    • @Mia-es1rp
      @Mia-es1rp Рік тому +3

      Thats amazing! Thank you for sharing about Henry im sure that will give hopes to others.

    • @kiwiboy4458
      @kiwiboy4458 5 місяців тому +2

      How miraculous!

    • @susanhicks255
      @susanhicks255 4 місяці тому +2

  • @Trisha-uh1gb
    @Trisha-uh1gb Рік тому +54

    I'm a hematology/oncology RN this touched my heart. As a new grad I had a 16 y/o with breast cancer having a double mastectomy. She passed. Watching this Michael's passing Broke my heart 💔

    • @marleenninaka1303
      @marleenninaka1303 Рік тому +10

      So heartbreaking when children die from cancer. 😫😫😫😫😫😫😫😫😫😫😫

  • @manbearpig2164
    @manbearpig2164 5 років тому +65

    I remember 1st grade my friend Jeremy died from leukemia, our school planted a tree for him, I'm 39 now and I still remember him and I wonder how that tree is doing

    • @totukimou
      @totukimou 4 роки тому +8

      I'm so sorry for your friend! I have no words...
      You're remembering him! This is so sweet of you! I thank you for that!
      God bless you sir!

    • @BM-lw6gn
      @BM-lw6gn 4 роки тому +3

      go and see

    • @surlywithfabshoes
      @surlywithfabshoes 3 роки тому +10

      If you go to Street View on Google Maps you might be able to see it depending on where it’s planted.

    • @surlywithfabshoes
      @surlywithfabshoes 3 роки тому +2

      My friend, also in Grade 1, died from leukaemia too.

    • @manbearpig2164
      @manbearpig2164 3 роки тому +4

      @@surlywithfabshoes good idea, I think I will do that, I know exactly where it was planted, thanks

  • @madreep
    @madreep 4 роки тому +78

    I'm bawling. Michael's death hit me in the feels hard. He was so reckless, almost as if he figured that he was going to die anyways so he might as well have a great ride. My niece's first love died of osteosarcoma after it metastasized to his lungs four years ago, he was 19. He handled his diagnosis alot like Michael. He went from being the sweetest kid who immersed himself into our family making us all love him deeply to being annoying, angry, and alternatively pushing us away while wanting to be held close at the same time. His last few months were emotionally exhausting for us. We supported him fiercely and he so wanted to live. He and my niece had split up before his death because at 17 she could no longer handle the ups and downs of his moods. He became incredibly mean. But when he called her she was right there with him holding him until he took his last breath. She wouldn't let the undertakers do anything. She bathed him, dressed him, and styled his hair for his burial. No one else would have done it how he liked it. I still catch myself calling my sister to ask about him because he hadn't called me in a while. He was the most annoying kid ever and I loved him for it and miss him every day. I think he wanted to make sure we never forgot him and we won't.

    • @yesterdayitrained
      @yesterdayitrained 2 роки тому +10

      Thank you for sharing an incredibly sad, but also beautiful, life. I am so touched by your words- that you will never allow him to be forgotten. He has been remembered by you, and introduced, and will be remembered, by so many others now.

    • @TeeNicole10
      @TeeNicole10 Рік тому +5

      God Bless their souls🙏🏻

    • @LawnMowersThingsThatMakeNoise
      @LawnMowersThingsThatMakeNoise 6 місяців тому +3

      I wish Nancy could write a book about michael 😞 I would read it. Watching this documentary taught me about him.

  • @teijaflink2226
    @teijaflink2226 3 роки тому +42

    More than 40 years since Michaels death and here I'm crying like I can't almost breath, I got almost through this beautiful, heartbreaking documentary but when Tony satt down next to hs bed everything just broke. Michael seemed like such an amazing, curious, fun, adventurous beautiful human, so incredibly sad he didn't get the chance to explore this life more and have His own family. I can't imagine the pain these brave children go through.

  • @denisedenise3602
    @denisedenise3602 5 років тому +68

    Very good yet extremely sad docu. Rest in peace little Theresa, 9 is too young to give up on life, so tragic, so sad.

    • @leerwesen
      @leerwesen 4 роки тому +23

      It is, but after experiencing all that - more than most of us will in our entire lives - I can see why she decided to die her own way. Though a part of me wonders if part of it was her just not wanting to suffer. Like they couldn't have given her medicine to sleep and then look for a vein? Nowadays they would use a Picc line if they needed meds on an ongoing basis, or ultrasound to help find a vein, and numbing creme to reduce pain.

    • @cordelia8360
      @cordelia8360 Рік тому +11

      She didn't give up on life. Her disease was no longer responding to treatment and she was dying.

    • @kimbobby3046
      @kimbobby3046 7 місяців тому +2

      She went through more than we could imagine. Good for her! Enough is enough.

  • @leerwesen
    @leerwesen 4 роки тому +37

    Being sick but looking healthy, that reminds me of a friend who had cancer. He looked perfectly fine in photos, even when he was taking pain drugs just to go out for his favourite food, even though he could barely eat. The cure is often worse than the disease, even all these years later. To everyone with cancer who fought it to the end, or those who realized they were going to die and decided to meet their end their own way in relative comfort, I hope if there is a heaven they can all meet together and have a huge party. I wish the best for the parents, friends and other loved ones of all the people in this documentary, and everyone else touched by cancer.

  • @celinapenteado1556
    @celinapenteado1556 4 роки тому +60

    My oldest brother died in 1980 of Lymphoblastic leukemia at age 19. He lived only 3 months from diagnosis. Today this cancer is highly curable. Too young.
    I was hoping Tony Coutinho would have lived a long and rich life. However, to my big dismay, he died in 1985. Cancer is devastating for anyone, but when children are diagnosed, it is heartbreaking.

    • @LighthouseLover1989
      @LighthouseLover1989 Рік тому +5

      I'm so sorry for the loss of your brother, Celina. My brother, Eric, died the day he was born due to being premature, so I know what it's like to lose a sibling. When our time comes, we'll see our brothers again. I'm sure of that. 💘💔

    • @VeganBambi
      @VeganBambi Рік тому +3

      tony is alive and well, i looked him up and saw pictures of him from this year and it's definitely him, same teeth and everything.

    • @gideaoferreira4293
      @gideaoferreira4293 Рік тому +1

      ​@@LighthouseLover1989 does he really died?

    • @lentak779
      @lentak779 Рік тому +1

      @@VeganBambi link ?

    • @nooraqueen2716
      @nooraqueen2716 7 місяців тому +1

      Where did you find the link

  • @janjohnsonamarillas3386
    @janjohnsonamarillas3386 5 років тому +45

    Poor little precious ones , my heart goes out to people with such horrible diseases , I had to pause this several times because it made me cry , may those Rest in Peace ,!

  • @karenem6321
    @karenem6321 4 роки тому +36

    What really guts me about this is Michael was only a few years younger than me. He'd be in his mid 50s now - that's 40 years of life not lived. So sad.

  • @libbyhargarten2809
    @libbyhargarten2809 5 років тому +75

    Tony sitting next to Michael in the hospital bed just about killed me 😭

    • @aebniala
      @aebniala 4 роки тому +2

      Its called médical Errors...

    • @Lava_Girl-
      @Lava_Girl- 4 роки тому +4

      Omg same😭😭

    • @teijaflink2226
      @teijaflink2226 3 роки тому +5

      Same, I could't keep tears in anymore, I feel like I have got a punch or something.

    • @strelnikova703
      @strelnikova703 6 місяців тому +1

      Me too

    • @davidlewis6670
      @davidlewis6670 5 місяців тому +3

      When Theresa cried. I felt so bad for her. Cancer of any kind is an awful thing to experience 😭😭

  • @TeamBTC17
    @TeamBTC17 3 роки тому +35

    I am 7 minutes in and went to comments to see if Michael survived. I’m broken. What a beautiful boy, a shining light. As a new Nana I have a grandson and I would give my life for him and my daughter I cannot imagine the horror of this diagnosis. Fly high Michael, I have a feeling that you enriched the lives of anyone who knew you. 💙

    • @nooraqueen2716
      @nooraqueen2716 7 місяців тому +1

      Neither did Tony survivor he ended up dying the cancer came back and he passed away

  • @thewholenesshome
    @thewholenesshome Рік тому +23

    As a mother I cannot even fathom putting my knowingly dying child back in a hospital bed, entirely alone, and leaving him there….how on God’s green earth is that even possible…

  • @justicewillprevail1106
    @justicewillprevail1106 2 місяці тому +8

    Michael was very brave. He didn't want his families to feel sad.so he put up this front that he was strong and healthy. I believe he was not feeling well and in the last few weeks, he knew his time was close. He did not want his friends and families to remember him as someone sick, laying in bed. As he had seen so many children that way towards the end. He was thinking of everyone but himself. What a brave, strong boy. His family must be proud of him. We will all meet again on the other side.

  • @MsBhappy
    @MsBhappy 4 роки тому +49

    Even after all these years I can see why this won an Emmy. A poignant piece with bittersweet moments of pure familial and youthful joy in times of tragedy. Lives lost far too soon

    • @theresa42213
      @theresa42213 Рік тому +4

      MsBHappy ~ l saw this when lt came out. l was 12, and remembered Theresa, but l thought her last name was ''Spikers'' rather than ''Pickett''. l am simply floored that l found this docu! lts been 45 years. Just glad that we have innovated new treatments for this terrible disease.

  • @lang-ed3bk
    @lang-ed3bk 4 роки тому +26

    my cousin (i think he's 2 yrs older than me) had leukemia since i was at least 12 (he was diagnosed earlier but i'm not sure when). doctors told him that he only has months to live; i am now 40, and he is still alive

  • @emmetkelly8372
    @emmetkelly8372 3 роки тому +24

    This is a powerful and haunting documentary

  • @shainawood890
    @shainawood890 4 роки тому +28

    I just want to say thank you to the souls who went through this because of their sacrifice ,struggles , willingness and strength other children that have to deal with these illnesses have a chance to survive and live longer and less painful lives so from my heart and soul i say thank you!!!!

  • @deniseouillette6995
    @deniseouillette6995 Рік тому +22

    These children in this era have suffered so much/// My GOD dieing alone in a hospital room without ur parents, Just horrific! Now those poor souls fought so hard.... and 40 yrs later so much has changed, Those children that fought in the trenches are the true hero's

    • @wishingyoupeace
      @wishingyoupeace 11 місяців тому +2

      Yes I wish we knew better. Those children suffered m.

  • @1GGBEE
    @1GGBEE Рік тому +25

    These children having bone marrow aspirations awake! I’m being sedated for mine. Rest in love, you precious angels.

  • @JulieR73
    @JulieR73 3 роки тому +15

    Life is so precious. To all people who have cancer, you’re in my prayers.

  • @christophercrafter2609
    @christophercrafter2609 Рік тому +18

    I cried over all of this but I especially cried over Theresa. Nine years old and terminally ill.

    • @bonnytaylor7558
      @bonnytaylor7558 Рік тому +7

      Halfway thru and I am sobbing..these poor children having to go through this..and the parents bless them 😪😪😭😭

  • @KQuinn672
    @KQuinn672 3 роки тому +19

    This is eerie as I was 11 1980 I'm now 52 but had leukemia in 2019! I had exact symptoms as Michael

  • @surlywithfabshoes
    @surlywithfabshoes 4 роки тому +33

    It’s crazy to think that, in the not so distant past, a child would die in hospital without their parents with them. To get a phone call in the night that your young child has died....glad it is different now and parents stay with the child throughout treatment. These kids must have been terrified to be away from their parents while they were dying. And to also have it be the norm not to tell children what was happening to them, especially with older children. It also seems weird that when the one child who stopped walking they didn’t ever figure out why.

    • @kimbobby3046
      @kimbobby3046 7 місяців тому +4

      Hospitals are so different now! To me who is nearly 60 ..?it really wasn't that long ago. It's all so hard to believe how that do things

  • @KarenReep
    @KarenReep 5 років тому +38

    My cousin died of leukemia in 1982. It was so hard on my aunt. This is so sad. ❤️

    • @TeeNicole10
      @TeeNicole10 Рік тому +3

      So sorry for your loss🙏🏻

  • @nicholasheather647
    @nicholasheather647 Рік тому +15

    I watched this when it aired when I was 12. I was staying at my aunts place up in Coombs. We (my three cousins and I) were allowed to watch the beachcombers and the wonderful world of Disney on sunday evenings. That’s all the tv we were allowed. But somehow, we stayed up and watched this. It gutted me. He was the same age as me and my cousin che. I remembered it out of the blue tonight. It gutted me again. Why do I do this to myself? I remember feeling so bad that we got to go on living, and he didn’t.

  • @oliviaLOVEShenry
    @oliviaLOVEShenry 2 роки тому +31

    1:15:11 “Mommy’s not coming” You can’t believe that children were separated from their parents, that a nurse would tell a child that their mom wasn’t coming and do nothing to try and comfort that little boy. It’s one of the most distressing things I’ve ever watched in my life.

    • @darksasuke9241
      @darksasuke9241 2 роки тому +1

      I wonder if that little boy is still alive… i hope he is

    • @NationalismDjazair
      @NationalismDjazair Рік тому +2

      @@darksasuke9241 probably not.

    • @surlywithfabshoes
      @surlywithfabshoes Рік тому +16

      It’s why things have changed so much. Now parents can be with their kids 24/7. Having parents there reduces stress, anxiety and to a certain extent, pain. I’m glad that the medical community paid attention and changed the rules. It was a different time though.

    • @kimbobby3046
      @kimbobby3046 7 місяців тому +3

      That was unbelievable!

    • @cinnamoslut
      @cinnamoslut 6 місяців тому

      ​@@surlywithfabshoesI am so grateful for my time in Seattle Children's Hospital. It was almost better than my actual home at that time. So comfortable and safe. I was 15 years old but still loved all the free gifts such as a giant life-sized teddy bear, more stuffed animals and art supplies. I was there during the winter holidays so we got lots of presents. And yes, parents and siblings were allowed to visit 24/7 at any time, sleep over in the patient rooms if work allowed it. That was 2008. I'm sure it's even better now.

  • @donnahague8983
    @donnahague8983 10 місяців тому +7

    This was beautifully done… RIP Michael… cancer is awful and no child should ever have to deal with that sickness

    • @leezwatz3339
      @leezwatz3339 4 місяці тому +4

      I knew Michael. He talked about going to Florida. My parents had a condo in Orlando and my father offered it to the Cluff family for a week, But, Michael was so sick it was just impossible for him to go there without a doctor who was familiar with his case.

    • @donnahague8983
      @donnahague8983 4 місяці тому +2

      @@leezwatz3339 This documentary broke my heart. I’m sorry for your loss. I’m sure being young and having a friend pass like this was very hard and confusing. Nobody should have to deal with cancer, especially kids. Watching him he seemed like he was so mature beyond his years…

    • @leezwatz3339
      @leezwatz3339 4 місяці тому

      @@donnahague8983 It is sad. But, there is IN MY OPINION, a positive side. Michael was depressed that he wouldn't get to "do stupid things like all teenagers". So, with the help of my father, we gave him the opportunity to do at least one stupid thing in his life. I even took a polaroid of the event.
      Something like 30 years later, I went to Canadian Tires with my daughter and Mr. Cluff was there and he recognized me "by my eyes and smile". I did not recognize him. We talked about Michael. He still seemed so sad. That was when I told him about the thing he did. I told him I had a picture to prove it. He asked me for that picture. When he saw it he teared up and laughed. He asked me if he could keep it for a while so he could enlarge it and keep it in his living room.
      And that is exactly what he did. Mr. Cluff thanked me a 100 times...lol

  • @debrakleid5752
    @debrakleid5752 11 місяців тому +7

    My dad died of leukemia in 2021 after a 3 1/2 week battle. Can’t imagine children having to go through this. In 1979 I was only 2 years old. Thankfully the success rates for leukemia is higher now.

  • @elizabethburgon6040
    @elizabethburgon6040 Рік тому +11

    My #1 man, my grandson Julian, past way from lukemia. The first time he had it he fought it. Had chemo for months. Then he got a donor. It worked, but for only 8 months. Damned if it came back. He was getting ready for for another transplant, but he got sick. To sick for the transplant. Two months later, he was gone. I miss him so much.

    • @jacquieiscool
      @jacquieiscool 11 місяців тому +1

      My friend died from leukemia last June took her so fast , which was so sad !

    • @summersteele775
      @summersteele775 2 місяці тому +1

      I am so terribly sorry for your loss.

  • @CetribeaBurundibwiza-tz5le
    @CetribeaBurundibwiza-tz5le 5 років тому +30

    This is very hard to watch

  • @carolevillines1947
    @carolevillines1947 10 місяців тому +7

    My older sister Angela Jean villines died from acute myelocitic leukemia @ 6 yrs old. On nov. 1.1956 after only 11 weeks after being diagnosed.

  • @whitneyanders5945
    @whitneyanders5945 3 місяці тому +4

    RIP to all the kiddos who passed. What brave little people you were. fascinating to watch and compare things to today…

  • @SoundGGirl
    @SoundGGirl Місяць тому +3

    Theresa is breaking my heart majorly. No words. If I was her family I’d be so proud of her. I wished she had survived :-( I hate to see kids suffer so badly

  • @conniescher3359
    @conniescher3359 Рік тому +15

    In 6th grade my best friend died of leukemia. I named my daughter after her. Kellie.

  • @annettehunter9743
    @annettehunter9743 3 роки тому +13

    Such brave children. No child should have to go through this physical and mental torture. Life can be so cruel to beautiful innocent children.

  • @maplematoke
    @maplematoke 2 роки тому +22

    Little known fact about Tony Coutinho : he ran with Terry Fox -- famous Canadian who also had cancer , who decided to run across Canada in order to raise money for cancer research ; to end it once and for all . He ( Terry Fox ) wrote in his diary that he ran with young 17 year old male that had leukemia . Im not 100% sure if this is same Tony Coutinho or not . RIP to Terry Fox & Tony Coutinho , and Michael Cloff.

    • @reneesantiago6496
      @reneesantiago6496 Рік тому

      So what age did Tony die and was in his cancer?

    • @VeganBambi
      @VeganBambi Рік тому

      tony is alive and well today. I don't know why people think he passed. A quick google search and he shows up. He's a CEO and it's him. same name and same chipped front tooth. @@reneesantiago6496

    • @jamescreen4539
      @jamescreen4539 11 місяців тому +3

      @@reneesantiago6496, he was 22 when he died on May 1, 1985.

    • @nooraqueen2716
      @nooraqueen2716 7 місяців тому

      @@reneesantiago6496he got cancer again at 20

  • @colinvanblaricom6573
    @colinvanblaricom6573 Рік тому +10

    This is such a sad documentary, such courageous kids experiencing this at such a young age :(

  • @kristenrocha4868
    @kristenrocha4868 Рік тому +9

    I started watching this with a lot of trepidation but felt i wanted to see it. I am a Mom who lost her 10 year old son to leukemia and fought this battle beside him for 6 years through BMTs, chemo, drug trials and thise daunting hours waiting for results. My heart goes out to these families and all families who have had cancer touch their lives. I would really like to know how Tony is..

    • @nooraqueen2716
      @nooraqueen2716 7 місяців тому +4

      He sadly passed away in 1985 cancer came back when he was 20 and he died at 22

  • @2kiona
    @2kiona 4 роки тому +21

    Gosh! Those poor little one's going through those painful tests. I know in the UK, they put kids to sleep to do the hip marrow extraction and spinal taps. These kids have gone through so much, and having to go through more pain needlessly breaks my heart. Those little ones are braver than they know.

    • @TeeNicole10
      @TeeNicole10 Рік тому +1

      You are so right about 😰😰😰😰

    • @TeeNicole10
      @TeeNicole10 Рік тому +4

      I'm screaming where is the MORPHINE 😰😰😰😰😰😰😰

  • @bobs1356
    @bobs1356 Рік тому +7

    That nice looking boy story was so sad made me cry.

  • @SM-eh2vv
    @SM-eh2vv 3 роки тому +19

    My son is fighting Leukemia right now

  • @mellowmoods8393
    @mellowmoods8393 Рік тому +3

    I was 3 years younger than Michael. What a courageous, charming, and engaging kid he was. I wish I would have known him. God Bless the parents who had to bear the brunt of this journey along with Michael.

  • @lanceschmidt3047
    @lanceschmidt3047 3 місяці тому +4

    Thankfully childhood leukemia treatment has come a long ways. My 15 year old niece is a little over 1.5 years into a 2.5 year treatment plan for acute lymphoblastic leukemia at St. Jude in Memphis. The cure rate is now around 94%. The supportive care has been excellent with her being put to sleep for all painful tests such as spinal taps and bone marrow biopsies. That is not to say it is easy. The treatment involves chemotherapy almost every single day for 2.5 years with many days and weeks in hospital for treatment or treatment related complications, tranfusions, etc.

  • @Lava_Girl-
    @Lava_Girl- 4 роки тому +10

    Can't possibly hold back my tears...this was so sad.

  • @heatherbowlan1961
    @heatherbowlan1961 3 роки тому +9

    One of the Best documentary I’ve ever seen ! Very sad ,but a look into tragedy that happened to our fellow human beings .it could be any of us or someone we love , God Bless these parents .

    • @mbc1795
      @mbc1795 10 місяців тому +1

      One of the best documentaries

  • @audreydempster6630
    @audreydempster6630 Рік тому +28

    My little boy suffered this horrific lymphoblastic leukaemia he was diagnosed and died 8 weeks later from sepsis and a bleed into the brain stem while his platelets were low rip my sweet boy David J Currie ❤28/12/1987-5/5/1992 ❤🕊️

    • @star.cat.
      @star.cat. Рік тому +7

      So sorry for your loss. Heartbreaking. You will be reunited with your David, when the time is right ⭐️

    • @StephAnie....
      @StephAnie.... Рік тому +1

      ❤😢

    • @marleenninaka1303
      @marleenninaka1303 Рік тому +1

      My deepest condolences to your family.

    • @bonnytaylor7558
      @bonnytaylor7558 Рік тому +3

      Audrey my heart aches for you. Sending love and hugs ❤😢😢

    • @garycooper9207
      @garycooper9207 Рік тому +1

      😭💖

  • @spikeytrousers
    @spikeytrousers Рік тому +4

    As a survivor of this horror, I had leukemia, the same time as these warriors. During the troubles in Northern Ireland. I'd like to say ... be at peace warriors..for life after, has it's meaning, but you just can't relate to anyone, what you have been through.

  • @trenthogan4212
    @trenthogan4212 5 років тому +15

    @The Fifth Estate
    What happened to Tony Coutinho? I watched this as a young boy in January 1980 when it aired and it left me terrified. I was a severe hypochondriac for years, I would panic every time I had a bruise.

    • @Puddlesmolly
      @Puddlesmolly 4 роки тому +7

      He died at 21

    • @mollyhorse
      @mollyhorse 4 роки тому +3

      @@PuddlesmollyThanks for letting us know...so very sad.

    • @maplematoke
      @maplematoke 3 роки тому +4

      @@Puddlesmolly Even though he died young , at least he was able to make it out of childhood . It'll be nice though if he was able to lived longer .

    • @yesterdayitrained
      @yesterdayitrained 2 роки тому +3

      1963 - 1985

    • @VeganBambi
      @VeganBambi Рік тому

      He's alive, he's the ceo of a company right now. I know 100% it's him. same name, same facial features and even the same chipped front tooth.

  • @boogiestreet594
    @boogiestreet594 4 роки тому +10

    That poor guy Tony Cutinho died 2 years later, he was hounded and haunted by this for 12 years... also how does the chemo and radiation only kill blast cells and not good ones?

    • @reidchambers2521
      @reidchambers2521 3 роки тому +17

      It does kill good ones.

    • @VeganBambi
      @VeganBambi Рік тому +1

      tony is alive. i looked him up and found his picture.it's him. same name, same features, same chipped tooth.

    • @thefangirlfromhell9627
      @thefangirlfromhell9627 10 місяців тому +1

      There is no discrimination. That’s why treatment makes sufferers so sick.

    • @nooraqueen2716
      @nooraqueen2716 7 місяців тому +1

      @@VeganBambihe’s not alive he died in 1985

    • @BUBBLESPOGO
      @BUBBLESPOGO 4 місяці тому +1

      ​@@VeganBambileave people alone.

  • @barbaralamson7450
    @barbaralamson7450 4 роки тому +8

    I don't believe doctors should be allowed to say how long a person has left to live. It is a massive heartache either way.
    My husband was given various time frames, the last time he was given 30 days. He didn't have three.
    A false window of hope, no.
    Just an added pain we do not need.

    • @le__graveuronyoutube
      @le__graveuronyoutube 3 роки тому +4

      Yes. This why I believe we shouldn't know, we are not supposed to know. False hope or feeling of doom or heartache. Either way ....

    • @IamJaneS
      @IamJaneS 3 роки тому +7

      My husband's specialist told me on the quiet, that he'd be surprised if hubby lasted a year. Very nasty cancer. One of the worst he'd seen. We are coming up to 5 years, and he's still cancer free.
      I am so sorry for your husband. My heart breaks for people like you. It really does.

    • @billjoe39
      @billjoe39 3 роки тому +1

      indeed, imagine a person who doesn't know what day THEY will pass, telling others what their life expectancy is

  • @mustwereallydothis
    @mustwereallydothis Рік тому +13

    When I was a child, leukemia was pretty much a death sentence. By the time I had my children in the 80s, there was reason for hope. Now, the cure rate with treatment is over 95%. One done... a few hundred other forms of cancer to go.

    • @aprilfisher4947
      @aprilfisher4947 7 місяців тому +4

      Yes true and a girl who had been in my class at secondary school died in 1974 from leukemia at age 17 while I at that time was expecting my first baby and getting married I never got over that feeling of her life ending while I was carrying a new life and I still think of that pretty , popular and really nice girl 50 years later.

    • @nooraqueen2716
      @nooraqueen2716 7 місяців тому

      It’s still not 95% a lot less then that most children diagnosed with Lukemia die

    • @nooraqueen2716
      @nooraqueen2716 7 місяців тому +1

      @@aprilfisher4947she was a child so heartbreaking

    • @ChakkyCharizard
      @ChakkyCharizard 2 місяці тому +2

      Another one we've practically cured is cervical cancer. Almost everyone in my generation has the vaccine that prevents it.

    • @steffdia7080
      @steffdia7080 16 днів тому

      No cure for leukemia

  • @all4mom-xv1hp
    @all4mom-xv1hp 2 місяці тому +5

    Micheal reminds me of a young Jim Carey. Wonder if he would've become a comedian! Such a loss.

  • @Erickajaderuelas
    @Erickajaderuelas 11 місяців тому +2

    I'm so sorry for all of you have lost someone & i wish any survivors the best of health 🙏🏻.

  • @star.cat.
    @star.cat. Рік тому +5

    Heartbreaking. I am so desperately sorry to learn about what these children went through x

  • @hanabbe
    @hanabbe Рік тому +4

    omg. How very sad. Precious, precious children. Theresa made such a courageous decision.

  • @maryellenblount6376
    @maryellenblount6376 Місяць тому +2

    Depressing and disturbing how children with cancer were "treated" back in the day. Absolutely horrifying for those kids. Breaks my heart. I completely understood Teresa not wanting anymore treatment.

  • @surlywithfabshoes
    @surlywithfabshoes 4 роки тому +15

    That cancer doc is such a warm and loving man. You can tell when he is speaking to the little girl about getting a blood transfusion and she’s holding his hand.

    • @billjoe39
      @billjoe39 3 роки тому +1

      so warm and loving maybe, but smart enough, were he in the same predicament, to refuse the toxic 'treatment' he himself gave these kids

    • @surlywithfabshoes
      @surlywithfabshoes 3 роки тому +13

      @@billjoe39 This isn’t a covid-type conspiracy against children. He dedicated his life to helping children with cancer. The vast majority of children under his care survived, and were happy the treatments were available in the first place. This was in the 1970’s. It’s like blaming the doctor for not doing an MRI, when MRI’s didn’t exist at the time. My best friend in Grade 1 died from leukaemia in 1982. They would have given anything to save their tiny daughter, even if the treatments were harsh. Their only child died. Seeing the absolutely broken hearted parents at her funeral is something I remember as clearly as if it happened yesterday. Almost all medical treatments improve over time. Cancer is no different.

    • @billjoe39
      @billjoe39 3 роки тому

      @@surlywithfabshoes If treatments improve over time, why is chemo and radiation still being used? And still making huge profits for drug companies? A market off of desperate parents, perhaps? And the conspiracy theory strawman is ridiculous......Rockefeller Medicine was founded on medical monopoly and profit, not healing. Research it yourself.....as if.......all these 4 kids under his care listed here, died ( one, a few years later) , so not sure where you got your 'saving many lives' figures.....you probably pulled them out of you know what

    • @surlywithfabshoes
      @surlywithfabshoes 3 роки тому +5

      @@billjoe39 WOW. You’re extremely rude and
      misinformed. This conversation is done.

    • @billjoe39
      @billjoe39 3 роки тому

      @@surlywithfabshoes It was 'done' the minute you brought out that hearsay testimonial

  • @juliette2729
    @juliette2729 2 роки тому +8

    I was a teen in the 70's - recognized the songs at the teen dance.
    I was really touched by the lives of all the sick kids but especially was upset over Michael's death. He.certainly was a charming, happy, + positive person right up to the end.
    All 3 who died went through painful treatments + had long lives that were snatched from them.
    I have a strong belief in Jesus + I HAVE to believe their beautiful souls are in heaven. R.I.P sweet angels.💐 This includes my sister, just recently my oldest brother. Also everyone with this terrible illness or who has passed from it or.any other illness.
    If Tony is still alive I wish him all the best in life.

  • @hamatoJade
    @hamatoJade 11 місяців тому +2

    My 21 year old uncle died of leukemia in 1986. It broke my mother's heart. Today he could have survived, but the technology wasn't that great back then.

  • @totukimou
    @totukimou 4 роки тому +13

    Exactly that! "The cure is worse than the disease"

    • @billjoe39
      @billjoe39 3 роки тому

      worse still, the 'cure' is anything but, usually chemo, not cancer, kills the patients

  • @charlinehenderson4966
    @charlinehenderson4966 Рік тому +5

    Beautifully done documentary.
    I can’t help but wondering why there are so many leukemia cases in that area?

  • @ILOVEMUSIC159
    @ILOVEMUSIC159 4 роки тому +19

    I was diagnosed with AML on the 23rd December 2019. I hope I'm going to be ok.

    • @leerwesen
      @leerwesen 4 роки тому +5

      I hope so too! Take care and you do YOU :)

    • @reidchambers2521
      @reidchambers2521 3 роки тому +3

      You will! xo

    • @IamJaneS
      @IamJaneS 3 роки тому +5

      I hope you are still well. I am not a God believer, but bless you.

    • @ILOVEMUSIC159
      @ILOVEMUSIC159 3 роки тому +14

      @@IamJaneS aww hi Jane thank you for your comment. I'm doing good I'm in remission and no problems so far 🤗

    • @novemberonathursdaymanymoo7459
      @novemberonathursdaymanymoo7459 2 роки тому

      My prayers r with u ...And with your loved one's❤🙏

  • @meeowdy
    @meeowdy 4 місяці тому +2

    What a terrible illness. My heart breaks for the children and families.

  • @BUBBLESPOGO
    @BUBBLESPOGO 4 місяці тому +2

    Those pictures of the flowers on the wall. What a horrible environment to die in. Modern hospice is a godsend for these suffering people.

  • @funlovinmumma
    @funlovinmumma 4 місяці тому +2

    Having a lumbar puncture (spinal test) is incredibly painful. I had one that didn't work as the registrar didn't get the right spot. She wanted to do another one 24 hours later andvi said no, I wanted the experienced doctor of 20 years to do it. She hadn't done one for about 10 years but still got what sge needed first go and i was numbed from the waist down for it. Those poor kids having them done witb no pain killers 😢

    • @channahcastelobranco
      @channahcastelobranco Місяць тому

      Today kids get general Anastasia I had Lumbar Puncture
      As a kid very traumatic and painful

  • @lang-ed3bk
    @lang-ed3bk 4 роки тому +14

    that april fool's comment was so sad RIP Michael

  • @veldubonnet5963
    @veldubonnet5963 5 років тому +32

    I kept hoping that Michael would make it to Florida. So glad for the Make a Wish Foundation these days.

    • @teijaflink2226
      @teijaflink2226 Рік тому +1

      Yeah he really wanted to go with Tony, he didn't even wish for that much but the cancer was very fast so probably was hard specially financially for his family to plan the trip but it's really sad he never got the chance. But even if short life seems he was a very happy and loved kid, so not that bad if a life.

  • @NowThatsASpicyMeatball
    @NowThatsASpicyMeatball 4 роки тому +6

    The music that plays in transition scenes triggers me for some reason. It makes me want to delve into madness.

  • @whendis.roberts9903
    @whendis.roberts9903 3 роки тому +5

    Why isn't someone helping that small child

  • @Beelzebubby91
    @Beelzebubby91 3 роки тому +19

    Why did they not just give the kids a shot of morphine for those lumbar punctures, painful injections and blood work? Especially if they know the kids won’t live long, might as well relieve them of their pain.

    • @billjoe39
      @billjoe39 3 роки тому

      rockefeller medicine dictates that 'treatment' like chemo and transfusions should cause pain

    • @askabroke-asslmhc2538
      @askabroke-asslmhc2538 3 місяці тому +1

      At least put them out right? Like there's no reason for such barbaric ways of doing medicine

  • @jecrispy8217
    @jecrispy8217 4 роки тому +13

    This was primative medecin. So much innovation, technology and more effective treatments have been developed and the evolution is continuous... Just to see a laboratory tech. Actually counting cells is amazing yet unheard of in modern medicine. I never thought that's how they did things back then. Not only has the medecin evolved but the psychiatric side follow-ups and treatments of the patients and their families have also greatly evolved. The approach is much more holistic... This film should actually be shown to all medical professionals. These brave young souls did not die in vain, this is a contribution for the better to the medical and caregiving professionals not to be overlooked. It is very very very humbling...

    • @reidchambers2521
      @reidchambers2521 2 роки тому +3

      et the treatments are EXCATLY the same ; poison, cut or burn.

    • @kimbobby3046
      @kimbobby3046 2 роки тому +3

      @@reidchambers2521 and many still do these painful tests while the poor kids are awake. That is so cruel

  • @sxceve25
    @sxceve25 Рік тому +2

    😪This was so hurtful 💔..

  • @onks1796
    @onks1796 4 роки тому +17

    these adults in the comments are making me loose my brain cells. i was diagnosed with leukemia at age 11 in 2018. i have just finished my treatments and am thriving. leukemia is only caused by bad luck and bad genetics. not by specific food or activities

    • @alicekranyk4173
      @alicekranyk4173 3 роки тому +1

      Lose your brain cells-not loose.

    • @onks1796
      @onks1796 3 роки тому +8

      @@alicekranyk4173 exactly, i can’t even spell properly because they’re making me lose my brain cells

    • @alicekranyk4173
      @alicekranyk4173 3 роки тому +2

      @@onks1796 😂😂😂 How are you feeling now? Any better?

    • @onks1796
      @onks1796 3 роки тому +9

      @@alicekranyk4173 yep pretty good, 6 months chemo free

  • @grizeldaetagronzeka4415
    @grizeldaetagronzeka4415 2 місяці тому +2

    OMG watching thisbdocumentsey is hurting!

  • @ericmiszczyk9968
    @ericmiszczyk9968 4 роки тому +3

    Were any of you in that hospital during the making of this.

  • @wilmaoberfrank1374
    @wilmaoberfrank1374 11 місяців тому

    Such a sad show i can't imagine anything worse than the loss of a child

  • @MarthaMoore-n2g
    @MarthaMoore-n2g 11 місяців тому +2

    A brave boy to have his life vedio

  • @tonyquigley6543
    @tonyquigley6543 5 років тому +9

    tony died at 22

    • @trenthogan4212
      @trenthogan4212 5 років тому +1

      I looked everywhere for this. Do you have a link? Just wondering how you know. Thanks

    • @MsBhappy
      @MsBhappy 4 роки тому +5

      @@trenthogan4212 A separate comment by LA LA "Tony's father's obit from 2014 states "Predeceased by his son Tony Coutinho." yourlifemoments.ca/sitepages/obituary.asp?oId=821582
      And this - Tony died in 85: geneofun.on.ca/names/photo/1874283"
      Very tragic. I can't help but think of what his life could have looked like today.

    • @yesterdayitrained
      @yesterdayitrained 2 роки тому +2

      1963 - 1985

    • @VeganBambi
      @VeganBambi Рік тому

      must be another guy cause i looked tony up and found him. saw a picture. same name, same facial features and same chipped front tooth. he's alive and well in 2023 and is ceo of a company. @@MsBhappy

    • @VeganBambi
      @VeganBambi Рік тому

      nope, he's alive

  • @cosmokramer1987
    @cosmokramer1987 4 роки тому +7

    At 44:19 that doctor looks like he's on the verge of a nervous breakdown....

  • @AudreyWilliams-w3p
    @AudreyWilliams-w3p Рік тому +1

    My first boyfriend had leukemia at 10 years old in 1990 but didn't die until 2014.

  • @christyborkowski6866
    @christyborkowski6866 4 місяці тому

    This was so heartbreaking to watch , my condolences go out to the parents who lost there children to this disease 🙏🏻🙏🏻🙏🏻🙏🏻

  • @bobs1356
    @bobs1356 Рік тому +6

    That poor little pale girl that's terminal this is unfair to children who won't grow up and live their life to the fullest.

    • @NCmomof
      @NCmomof Рік тому +2

      Her name is Teresa

  • @THEREAL747-z8p
    @THEREAL747-z8p Місяць тому +1

    My dad was his best friend

  • @TeeNicole10
    @TeeNicole10 Рік тому +4

    😰😰😰😰😰😰😰MY HEART HURTS🙏🏻

  • @le__graveuronyoutube
    @le__graveuronyoutube 5 років тому +16

    The Cluffs had it right .... It is a terrible thing to have to tell (and to ultimately know). Especially if the child doesn't want or care to know. If he is curious and wants to accept it, then that's another story. But I would agree with them generally. I personally don't want to know when and how I would meet my demise (until the moment, possibly). I'm not looking forward to that moment, but I just try not to think about it. I think as humans, we are generally not supposed to know, especially if you still have your health. Focus on the good times and other stuff.

    • @glennabarry1261
      @glennabarry1261 5 років тому +6

      " we're going to give you medicines that will make you sicker" ......... Ya that's going to help.

    • @Barec76
      @Barec76 4 роки тому +5

      Maybe if they were honest with him, he would have handled himself better. Honesty is important. I can’t believe they didn’t tell him about the death of his friend.

    • @reidchambers2521
      @reidchambers2521 3 роки тому +3

      Nope. Lying to him about his lack of future, lying that his friend died is wrong. It is not giving any thought, nor respect to their son as a person. There are ways to handle it, and not say its hopeless, but he knew anyway (they always do) , That's why he talked to his social worker about his death, he knew that he would be given answers.

    • @teijaflink2226
      @teijaflink2226 3 роки тому +2

      Right, that's why parents are usually encouraged to tell even young children because usually already know or sence that they are dying. You're child might have lots of guestions which they might be afraid to ask because people don't want them to know, children are not stupid.

    • @BUBBLESPOGO
      @BUBBLESPOGO 4 місяці тому

      ​@@glennabarry1261can u imagine saying that to a child. Unbelievable

  • @RosettaStoned462
    @RosettaStoned462 2 місяці тому +1

    What is going on with the man's face? Is it dark foundation and some parts of his face were missed? I'm fully intrigued.

  • @VoiceNoteSermons
    @VoiceNoteSermons 2 роки тому +5

    I wonder if life is really beautiful

  • @RandomComment6
    @RandomComment6 11 місяців тому +2

    I totally agree with Michael’s mother about her thoughts on God. We all would like to believe there is such an entity that is good and just, but when children as little as babies get cancer and die, there is no justification.

  • @starbabymady
    @starbabymady Місяць тому

    Is Tony still alive. Rip to those children who passed away. So sad 😢

  • @Puddlesmolly
    @Puddlesmolly 4 роки тому +3

    That treatment is enough to kiil anyone. This was so sad to watch....

    • @billjoe39
      @billjoe39 3 роки тому +2

      welcome to rockefeller medicine

  • @mydudechris
    @mydudechris 4 роки тому +10

    Mrs. Cluff, that's the exact reason why I dont beleive in God.

  • @kellysheridan3149
    @kellysheridan3149 5 місяців тому +1

    This is sad ❤❤❤❤ such fighters

  • @SuperflySister
    @SuperflySister Місяць тому

    I hope Tony survived and is alive and well

  • @shameacortes
    @shameacortes 10 місяців тому

    What happened to the other girl from the documentary, Karen Clark? Did she also pass like the others? 😢 I'm rewatching the documentary but see nothing that answers my question. Thank you.

  • @wishingyoupeace
    @wishingyoupeace 11 місяців тому +1

    This was so heavy. How is Tony now??

  • @Puddlesmolly
    @Puddlesmolly 4 роки тому +4

    Tony died at 21

    • @VeganBambi
      @VeganBambi Рік тому

      no, he's still alive. I looked him up and saw a photo. same name, same facial features and all.

    • @nooraqueen2716
      @nooraqueen2716 7 місяців тому +1

      He’s dead that’s a different Tony , he’s already predeceased

  • @lynnpatenaude5548
    @lynnpatenaude5548 Рік тому +1

    Brave kids!

  • @RebelliousSoul-b9f
    @RebelliousSoul-b9f Рік тому +1

    My cousin Joey died cro. Leukemia