Those are some nice upgrades on your 1200g Fernando! If someone only wants one turntable for their setup, that has to be one of the best options available!
Thanks for your time making such an informative video. I'm soul searching between 1200gr, 1200gr2 and 1200g, and also navigating added extras like little fwend which I don't consider an upgrade but more a necessity. Nobody wants to be hovering over their vinyl record, waiting for it to finish, or leave it just to sit clicking away n the lead out groove. I also appreciate your honesty on the cables. For me, this wasn't a waste of time, but an education.
Very exciting to see what Technics & AT have been up to lately. Its as much an audiophile treat as it is a DJ's perfect weapon of choice for scratching.
I appreciate the candor about "high end" audio and power cables. If you want to use the same cabling most pro recording and mastering studios use, I recommend Belden and Canare cables. Extremely reasonable pricing as compared to the more exotic consumer cables.
I've always been a van damme man myself... i don't really get into cable nonsense, and i like their sensible construction and build. In the UK van damme is pretty popular in pro use
Thanks for making so many great videos on this turntable. As an owner of this model I never get tired of seeing all your excellent videos! Keep the videos coming as I find them very helpful in deciding my upgrades. ;)
Glad you liked it Edward. There is so much demand on this table and folks are so pationate about this brand that it makes it fun to develop and promote. More to come but first Im gonna do a review on a phono preamp and some more cartridges.
Love your content. I think I’ve narrowed my choices to Rega and Technics. If I go with Technics it will definitely be from you guys. New to vinyl and getting ready to upgrade from my Project Debut Carbon. Thx!
Thank you for taking the time to explain your calibration service in more depth. It does make a big difference when you show the actual tools that most people will not have at home. I admit I am of the camp that good-quality cables are enough. However, you owe it to yourself to install good interconnects to manage such delicate signals from a high-quality turntable. In my case, I would not hesitate to purchase Kimber Kable Interconnects. I know they are pricey, but they will help preserve that signal as much as possible. I've had good experience with that brand, even on their more affordable series.
Glad you agree on the importance of a good interconnect for the turntable. Kimber does make lots of reasonably price cables that perform super well. We tend to use the TAK-CU which is phono specific with the upgraded WBT connectors. Cheers.
I really do like your no nonsense video on this turntable. The way you explain the cables. The products that are specially made for you for the turntable our exceptional from viewing it on your video I am going to take a view of your website. Seems to be expensive some of the special products that you had made but I am a strong believer of you get what you pay for strongly believe that thank you for your honesty and will be viewing your website soon.😊
Great video thank you. Personally can't afford the top two Technics, but absolutely love my 1210GR2 with MoFi Master Tracker cartridge ... Technics and their direct drive are absolutely the best on the market, IMO! Thanks again, always enjoy your videos.
Such a gorgeous, precision, work of art. Funny, I've never been a fan of gold or brass but when it's used tastefully in conjunction with anything silver like aluminum or stainless like it is here it's stunning. Thanks so much for your videos; I hope you know how much we appreciate all the the time and work you put into them.
@SkyFiAudio before you open up that Little Fwend unit just know that I didn’t find it to work with my fluid damper. They want to occupy the same space. I like the practicality of the tonearm lifter but the fluid damper made a big difference so I didn’t mind having to give the other up. If you find out how to make both work together, please let us know!
Even though I am an all digital guy at the moment I really enjoyed your video. Actually I look forward to all of your videos!! Keep up the great work😄👍
Other than calibrations using test records, my top recommendation is the Little Fwend Disco tonearm lifter. Install and adjust it while you are calm, sober, and well rested, and it will serve you well. It eventually gets into your muscle memory to reset it after every side has played, because if you don't .... Ahhhhhh!!
They are a bit finicky for sure. If you purchase one from us along with the turntable we will install and calibrate for you. I look to curtail my caffeine intake prior to working on them :-).
That wood base gives me strong echos of the United Audio bases for the 70s Dual tables. There are several guys out there doing custom plinths for those these days. Of course the Dual can't operate without one so as they age and degrade a demand exists.
In the 1980s I was totally into hifi and had a favourite stereo store that I bought all my gear from. I have an electronics background/education so I always took what they said about upgrades with a grain of salt. Especially the nonsense about cables. One day they had a great new product to show me, a new speaker cable system for hundreds of dollars but when Dan said "skin effect" I laughed out loud. During the microwave communication module of my education we learned all about skin effect and did the math etc. I explained to Dan what skin effect was and how it worked and he assured me that the engineer at the trade show knew what he was talking about and that it was a real thing. Well, Dan was in business to make money and an audiophool and his money are soon parted. I stuck with the cheap stuff. Oh and thanks for taking the time to make these videos. I still have a soft spot in my head for hifi.
tonearm lifter is a genius idea so many times i have listened to a record and the fell asleep before the end and then wake up an hour or two later to the sound of crackling
Fall asleep with Sonic Youth's album Evol and you wake uo to the same note that has been playing for hours. It also tends to not trigger the auto return or in my case the auto shut off in the Philips 212 electric.
I really like Technics and it is interesting to see what they do today. And what can be done with them even if these players are outside my budget. But please, put the camera on a stand. The swaying and rolling shutter makes me seasick...
*However, the only way to MAX OUT a 1200G is by upgrading the tonearm* Despite looking like just a random 1200 tonearm, the magnesium 1200G tonearm is way better than any other 1200 tonearm... but the turntable itself has even more potential. I've found that upgrading to an SME V didn't do much to the tonal balance, dynamic range or distortion levels, but it did improve the soundstage quite a bit! You should check out the 1200G armboards by Ammonite Audio, I'm using one and it looks like it came installed from the factory. Not just some punched out plate of sheetmetal, but a thick machined piece of aluminium that has been nicely anodized. They have predrilled ones for popular aftermarket toneams, blank boards and can also drill a board by sending them the specs. Ammonite Audio is British and I don't think they have a distributor for the US yet, so... maybe this an opportunity for you? 😉 They're definitely the best on the market for Technics armboards...
While I think the arm on the 1200G is fantastic I would love to do an arm swap at some point, mostly for fun. Thanks for the tip on where to get an arm board, will check it out.
I have a SL-1200M7L Black which is terrific. I'm fitting a Denon DL-103 and runnuing through a Schiit MANI 2. Having trouble finding a good reliable source that gives settings in a clear and concise manner. Any tips? The SL-1200G is my aspiration TT. I love that you enjoy the engineering and share that so well.
Some interesting stuff here... some of it thats a little to "tweaky" for me, and even by your own admission, some of it is borderline. I'm surprised to see such extensive tools needed for cart alignment, do technics not include the overhand gauge with the arm like they do on the lower end decks? I used it on my 1200GR2 and i found it was pretty much bang on... the only thing thats hard to get right by eye / ear, is the azimuth.
@@SkyFiAudio yeah stock, the red one ... i'm not a technical person, wouldn't know how to change it, wouldn't know what else to get, kind of struggled to adjust the arm when i bought it so now that it works, i'll just let it work as it is :))))
Hundreds? Lol, we can only get about 10 made each month or two. The raw materials to get the grain just right are super expensive. Wish it was cheaper too, I guess the cost of making things in the USA.
Would like to see them make this exact model but minus the DJ doodads, strobe and slider. Nicer than the 1300 that's just coming out but knock three of four hundred dollars off of it.
Has Technics approved of the walnut frame weight which may or may not be (but probably not) perfectly balanced, hanging off the deck and have you repeated your extensive distortion etc measurements with and without the frame?
@@SkyFiAudio I like the record weight. Have you thought about or are you working on an outer perimeter ring weight or would that be too difficult to do given the platers chamfer?
Technics are the JL Audio 13W7 of turntables. ...and by that, I mean it's decades old tech that never changes. It's top shelf pricing while more high tech, better looking options are available for far less money. ...but the fanbase loves the brand name, so they keep on keepin' on. Go ahead & tell me I'm wrong, even though I'm not. Technics' $1,200 turntable looks 1 to 1 identical to Technics' $4,000 turntable from 5 feet away...and both of those turntables contain features that 9 out of 10 of their owners will NEVER TOUCH. ...and while I know the $1,200 'table & $4,000 'table aren't made from the same materials, they do LOOK the same. That's not exactly "good" imho. Why would I want to spend 3.5x the $$$ for a product that looks EXACTLY THE SAME? How long have Technics been offering like 5 turntables & 4 of them look identical to one another? The only 'table they make that looks different is the one w/ the standalone PSU that costs like $10k. These 'tables are priced and marketed to "audiophiles"...but they're loaded with features that are completely useless to non-DJs. Why do we have to pay for pitch shifters and lights that we don't want, don't need and will never use? It has been DECADES. Why can't Technics remove these useless options that hurt the looks of their product while also making their product cost more $$$? EDIT: btw, I'm not trying to act like Technics' turntables are bad. I know they aren't. Reputation is earned and I get that. ...but, at the same time, it is completely possible for a brand to rest on their butt and coast along on their reputation. That is, beyond doubt, what Technics are doing with their turntable line. So, they are great turntables...but they are also overpriced and outdated turntables that contain many unnecessary and unwanted features. They don't ever update the look of them. These criticisms are factual and valid. All of them. Why can't this amazing brand try out something different? No one is saying they have to quit doing what brought them to the dance...but try something new once per decade at least. Keep churnin' out the greatest hits...but try to write a new one occasionally. Sheesh. ...and the Technics shown in this video costs THOUSANDS of dollars all said, with the accessories and tools shown. Those optical cartridges & phono preamps certainly aren't being given away. There wasn't a syllable mentioned regarding the price of anything in the video, as far as I can remember. There are literally craftsmen out here building custom bespoke turntables for substantially less money than this Technics would cost you. ...but, by all means...buy your JL Audio 13W7 today.
I hear you... Technics moves very very slowly as a company. They did just release the SL1300G which addresses many of you concerns. It looks different and does not have any of the DJ features you dislike. However, you cant argue with their success, they sell every table they make and there is often a waiting list for them. So... to me it sure looks like they know what they are doing.
@@SkyFiAudio Like I said. Reputation is earned. I ain't saying the product isn't good. I ain't saying they should stop doing what brought them to the dance. Just do something different/new once in a while. It's not that difficult. Even the new 'table you mentioned....looks just like everything else. It just doesn't have the pitch control slider & the light. Everything else is still the same. It's lazy, man. It just is.
$500. Dollar head shell ? For a product that so called audiophiles wouldn’t touch years ago ! Too ghetto, too DJ , too Disco ? And now if you charge $5000. It’s cool ? All the newbies and well heeled can say , I’m not one of those people ? I’m a Audiophile? Radio stations , record shops , archives , and Real music people ! Know about these ? And trust me or not , but you don’t in no shape form or function do you need a $500. Head shell ! I can get original 1200s for that all day long ! Scam Alert ! Why must everything you people touch becomes a weapon or a profit ? If you can make a knife out of a drumstick you will ? If you can make it $5000. You will ? These things cost as much as you can get people to believe it should ! If I can get SL1200s for $500. And now their $4500. More than a original ? Does it keep speed $4500. Better ? I found a Sl 1400 in the trash ! Fixed it and some guy from Apple brought it…Immediately ! For $800. You’re killing your own hobby , by making it ridiculous and of no use to music ! If guitar cables cost as much as the instrument it would be doom ! If strings cost as much a guitar or a amplifier ? It’s the same with audio , hundreds of dollars cause somebody said your cables shouldn’t touch the floor ? I can spend $20. On capacitors and get results that thousand cables can’t ! The fact that you deal McIntosh you know real tech and not Rock Oil …
Sure thing, I've seen it done. However the suspension on the 1200G isn't quite right for DJ's as it doesn't not have the same range or direction of motion.
Here's the probelm with this "upgrade culture" This product was engineered and DESIGNED for those specific parts. The moment you start "upgrading" and changing stuff, it no longer works as intended. You may think it's "better" but those engineers never accounted for you faffing about replacing parts on the thing, so 9 times out of 10 you end up with a worse product, and wasting a bunch of money thinking you're "upgrading" it. It's like people who buy a $25000 watch then "bust it down" and put gross cheap diamonds all over it COMPLETELY devaluing the timepiece. Things like turntables are designed to work AS THEY ARE because its tuned for those parts. EVERY resonance is accoutned for, every weight
Not so. Every product is designed to a price. There are always things the designer would have done differently with a larger budget and there is, also always a few more percent performance to be found
24 minutes of watching a beautiful piece of audio equipment. Not one second of my time was wasted.
Hey thats super nice of you to say!
Love to see you guys taking the time to show us non technical music lovers the upgrades we may not of know about.
Or probably may not ever need. Tinkering at your listening peril - unless it’s the tinkering that takes priority.
Those are some nice upgrades on your 1200g Fernando! If someone only wants one turntable for their setup, that has to be one of the best options available!
Thanks for your time making such an informative video.
I'm soul searching between 1200gr, 1200gr2 and 1200g, and also navigating added extras like little fwend which I don't consider an upgrade but more a necessity. Nobody wants to be hovering over their vinyl record, waiting for it to finish, or leave it just to sit clicking away n the lead out groove.
I also appreciate your honesty on the cables.
For me, this wasn't a waste of time, but an education.
Very exciting to see what Technics & AT have been up to lately. Its as much an audiophile treat as it is a DJ's perfect weapon of choice for scratching.
I appreciate the candor about "high end" audio and power cables. If you want to use the same cabling most pro recording and mastering studios use, I recommend Belden and Canare cables. Extremely reasonable pricing as compared to the more exotic consumer cables.
I've always been a van damme man myself... i don't really get into cable nonsense, and i like their sensible construction and build. In the UK van damme is pretty popular in pro use
Thanks for making so many great videos on this turntable. As an owner of this model I never get tired of seeing all your excellent videos! Keep the videos coming as I find them very helpful in deciding my upgrades. ;)
Glad you liked it Edward. There is so much demand on this table and folks are so pationate about this brand that it makes it fun to develop and promote. More to come but first Im gonna do a review on a phono preamp and some more cartridges.
Hey, FZ! You're a dedicated audio professional...Awesome job!!
Thanks Tyrone! Thanks for watching and stay in touch.
very cool that the calibration can be done with just the cart and headshell!
Sure makes our lives easy.
Love your content. I think I’ve narrowed my choices to Rega and Technics. If I go with Technics it will definitely be from you guys. New to vinyl and getting ready to upgrade from my Project Debut Carbon. Thx!
Thank you for taking the time to explain your calibration service in more depth. It does make a big difference when you show the actual tools that most people will not have at home.
I admit I am of the camp that good-quality cables are enough. However, you owe it to yourself to install good interconnects to manage such delicate signals from a high-quality turntable. In my case, I would not hesitate to purchase Kimber Kable Interconnects. I know they are pricey, but they will help preserve that signal as much as possible. I've had good experience with that brand, even on their more affordable series.
Glad you agree on the importance of a good interconnect for the turntable. Kimber does make lots of reasonably price cables that perform super well. We tend to use the TAK-CU which is phono specific with the upgraded WBT connectors. Cheers.
Love your videos, very educational and entertaining. Keep up the good work.
I appreciate these videos. Thanks!
I really do like your no nonsense video on this turntable. The way you explain the cables. The products that are specially made for you for the turntable our exceptional from viewing it on your video I am going to take a view of your website. Seems to be expensive some of the special products that you had made but I am a strong believer of you get what you pay for strongly believe that thank you for your honesty and will be viewing your website soon.😊
Best videos on stereo gear on UA-cam, thanks Fernando!
Wow, thanks!
Great video thank you. Personally can't afford the top two Technics, but absolutely love my 1210GR2 with MoFi Master Tracker cartridge ... Technics and their direct drive are absolutely the best on the market, IMO! Thanks again, always enjoy your videos.
Good choice! With the proper cartridge the GR2 is a fantastic table.
Great to see so many new and useful products !!!
Love these "deep dive" videos.
Especially for turntables and/or vintage SONY or Mac equipment.
Glad you like them!
Wish your shop was closer, love the videos!
I love your approach to cables.
It's a bit risky for me since I sell cables, but hey, people ultimately appreciate honesty above all. I hope.
Thank you for this great video. Love everything you are doing for Technics turntables.
You are so welcome!
Such a gorgeous, precision, work of art. Funny, I've never been a fan of gold or brass but when it's used tastefully in conjunction with anything silver like aluminum or stainless like it is here it's stunning. Thanks so much for your videos; I hope you know how much we appreciate all the the time and work you put into them.
Thank you very much! It's a lot of fun working with Technics products and so satisfying.
@SkyFiAudio before you open up that Little Fwend unit just know that I didn’t find it to work with my fluid damper. They want to occupy the same space. I like the practicality of the tonearm lifter but the fluid damper made a big difference so I didn’t mind having to give the other up. If you find out how to make both work together, please let us know!
Very very nice review on amazing upgrades. Thank You Sir. Kindest regards.
Hey thanks mate. Glad you liked it.
Love your channel. You’re so knowledgeable about all the products you sell.
Thank you so much!
Always looking forward to your videos!
Beautiful end result.
Super cool! 👍👌💪
Even though I am an all digital guy at the moment I really enjoyed your video.
Actually I look forward to all of your videos!!
Keep up the great work😄👍
Awesome! Thank you! More analogue videos to come. Is there something in particular you would like me to explore?
Love your videos guys. I have my 1200G coming next week :)
Great news, how did you configure it?
Other than calibrations using test records, my top recommendation is the Little Fwend Disco tonearm lifter. Install and adjust it while you are calm, sober, and well rested, and it will serve you well. It eventually gets into your muscle memory to reset it after every side has played, because if you don't .... Ahhhhhh!!
They are a bit finicky for sure. If you purchase one from us along with the turntable we will install and calibrate for you. I look to curtail my caffeine intake prior to working on them :-).
Thank you, Fernando. That mat looks good with the holes, so to highlight the brass top plate . I have the G i use a 6mm mat from a MK2 .
Glad you like it. Any other feedback would be appreciated. I really like the OEM mat so trying to modify it rather than change it.
That wood base gives me strong echos of the United Audio bases for the 70s Dual tables. There are several guys out there doing custom plinths for those these days. Of course the Dual can't operate without one so as they age and degrade a demand exists.
Beautiful !!!
great video. you may want to consider the KAB tone arm responance cap. One of the best inexpensive upgrades for under 10 bucks.
Thanks for the tip! Dont know much about it. I’m on it!!!
Nice...will want some of these add-ons when my 1300 comes in.
Thanks for your patience. We’re about a month away from getting the first batch.
Yet another great video !
Thank you so much
Glad you enjoyed it!
Love all your videos
Yes, great vids.
Thanks for watch sir. LMK if there is anything you’d like to see next.
@@SkyFiAudio
Any tips re best phono stage for 12OO G ? Married to MA352 and Klipsch Heresy IV.
Love the videos mate. Watching from Melbourne Australia
In the 1980s I was totally into hifi and had a favourite stereo store that I bought all my gear from. I have an electronics background/education so I always took what they said about upgrades with a grain of salt. Especially the nonsense about cables. One day they had a great new product to show me, a new speaker cable system for hundreds of dollars but when Dan said "skin effect" I laughed out loud. During the microwave communication module of my education we learned all about skin effect and did the math etc. I explained to Dan what skin effect was and how it worked and he assured me that the engineer at the trade show knew what he was talking about and that it was a real thing. Well, Dan was in business to make money and an audiophool and his money are soon parted. I stuck with the cheap stuff. Oh and thanks for taking the time to make these videos. I still have a soft spot in my head for hifi.
Audiophool, that a great story, thanks for sharing Don. hahahah.
tonearm lifter is a genius idea so many times i have listened to a record and the fell asleep before the end and then wake up an hour or two later to the sound of crackling
lol, I do it all the time. While it doest wear the cartridge much it sure doesn't feel right.
Fall asleep with Sonic Youth's album Evol and you wake uo to the same note that has been playing for hours. It also tends to not trigger the auto return or in my case the auto shut off in the Philips 212 electric.
I really like Technics and it is interesting to see what they do today. And what can be done with them even if these players are outside my budget.
But please, put the camera on a stand. The swaying and rolling shutter makes me seasick...
So sorry about the camera, I just ordered a mount, will do better on the next one.
Such a beautiful table, wish it was in my house.
we can make that happen!
@@SkyFiAudio When I win the lotto!!
With all that setup headache and outcome uncertainty, I see why SACD/CD's are still with us......load it in the drawer and press play.
No fun in that!😂
Your videos are very helpful in my decision on technics thank you
glad to help eward. Feel free to ring me if you need more answers or guidance.
Recent subscriber & have been enjoying your videos, especially the one on the klipsch speakers - what phono preamps do you recommend?
My budget fav is the Project Tube Box DS3, then the Mofi Masterphono.
*However, the only way to MAX OUT a 1200G is by upgrading the tonearm*
Despite looking like just a random 1200 tonearm, the magnesium 1200G tonearm is way better than any other 1200 tonearm... but the turntable itself has even more potential.
I've found that upgrading to an SME V didn't do much to the tonal balance, dynamic range or distortion levels, but it did improve the soundstage quite a bit!
You should check out the 1200G armboards by Ammonite Audio, I'm using one and it looks like it came installed from the factory.
Not just some punched out plate of sheetmetal, but a thick machined piece of aluminium that has been nicely anodized.
They have predrilled ones for popular aftermarket toneams, blank boards and can also drill a board by sending them the specs.
Ammonite Audio is British and I don't think they have a distributor for the US yet, so... maybe this an opportunity for you? 😉
They're definitely the best on the market for Technics armboards...
While I think the arm on the 1200G is fantastic I would love to do an arm swap at some point, mostly for fun. Thanks for the tip on where to get an arm board, will check it out.
I plan on purchasing either the 1200 or 1300 in the near future.. I will definitely reach out to you.
Please do! We put a lot of care into these tables.
the 1200G2 is coming out next year so I'm waiting for that
Are you spreading rumors? Do tell!
@@SkyFiAudioI've scoured the net , there is no talk of a technics sl 1200g2.
Love that plinth!
Glad you do. It was fun to design. Working on a black version too. Any other suggestions would be welcomed.
I love your work!
I have a SL-1200M7L Black which is terrific. I'm fitting a Denon DL-103 and runnuing through a Schiit MANI 2. Having trouble finding a good reliable source that gives settings in a clear and concise manner. Any tips?
The SL-1200G is my aspiration TT. I love that you enjoy the engineering and share that so well.
Mitch, give me a call on Monday and we'll try and sort through it. I just looked at the Mani2 manual and it seem easy enough.
@@SkyFiAudio Thank you.
Some interesting stuff here... some of it thats a little to "tweaky" for me, and even by your own admission, some of it is borderline.
I'm surprised to see such extensive tools needed for cart alignment, do technics not include the overhand gauge with the arm like they do on the lower end decks?
I used it on my 1200GR2 and i found it was pretty much bang on... the only thing thats hard to get right by eye / ear, is the azimuth.
Would love to own a G; thanks for the videos!
Well now you have two choices, the 1300G and 1200G. Thanks for commenting.
That Walnut plinth and clear perspex cover are 1st rate, aesthetically pleasing additions.
Can you show how to use a test lp and the scope to set azimuth?
I have an SL-1600. How does that compare to SL-1200 OR sl-1400?
Love this
Any opinions on the Funk Firm accessories for the 1200 series? Houdini, Boing feet, Cobra Headshell etc.
I would not mess with the feet on the G. They are finely tuned.
My question is are the records as good as this table...?
i got a 1500c, dont care about higher end stuff, but enjoy your vids
Yes, the 1509C very nice indeed. Nevertheless, the 1200G sure is one great upgrade. Beautiful too.
Oops. 1500C !
Are you using the stock cartridge? Thats really the only weak point on the C.
@@SkyFiAudio yeah stock, the red one ... i'm not a technical person, wouldn't know how to change it, wouldn't know what else to get, kind of struggled to adjust the arm when i bought it so now that it works, i'll just let it work as it is :))))
@@SkyFiAudio
Agree. Upgraded to the blue.
No regrets.
Aiming for the 1200 G - when $circumstances allow :))
real product real facts
Thanks mate, lots of BS in this hobby, trying to cut through it all.
I’m thinking about getting a SL-1200 model but I can’t make up my mind on the silver or black.
hey tough choice, I went back and forth before landing on silver, which I chose because it matches my Nagra gear. Glad there are only two choices :-)
Hi there do you deliver to the UK?
How much for the wood plenith
Sickening video nice work bruhsef this slap bruh
Appreciate it.. I think...
Wow! $795 for the walnut turntable frame. If you dropped the price to a reasonable $400 you would sell hundreds. And still make a healthy profit. Imo
Hundreds? Lol, we can only get about 10 made each month or two. The raw materials to get the grain just right are super expensive. Wish it was cheaper too, I guess the cost of making things in the USA.
With those 8 holes in the slipmat you get a bass drop 264 times per minute. 😜🤣
Even more at 45 RPM!! 😊
@SkyFiAudio what about 78 RPM? If there is any bass on these records. 😜🤣
Would like to see them make this exact model but minus the DJ doodads, strobe and slider. Nicer than the 1300 that's just coming out but knock three of four hundred dollars off of it.
That would be cool! I’m hoping for a model between the 1200G and the 1000R.
Has Technics approved of the walnut frame weight which may or may not be (but probably not) perfectly balanced, hanging off the deck and have you repeated your extensive distortion etc measurements with and without the frame?
I have and could not detect any measurable difference. Even tried with the record weight too. Thanks for pointing out.
@@SkyFiAudio I like the record weight. Have you thought about or are you working on an outer perimeter ring weight or would that be too difficult to do given the platers chamfer?
looks beautiful with the walnut plinth i live in the uk do you ship to the uk? and if so what is the cost of the plinth ?
checkout our website. skyfiaudio.com
No problem shipping to the UK. Also consider the matching acrylic cover. Cheers.
@@SkyFiAudio great do they fit the mk2 sl1210 also . what is the price for 2 including shipping to the uk please
good video
Thanks for the visit
subplatter on a DD turntable?
I was referring to the platter underneath the brass top platter. Cheers.
Turning a Technics to a transcriptors-hydraulic-reference
Indeed.
just get a mk2 to mk5 in good condition...
If the budget doesn't allow the MK2 is a fabulous choice, much better than most belt driver tables.
Technics are the JL Audio 13W7 of turntables. ...and by that, I mean it's decades old tech that never changes. It's top shelf pricing while more high tech, better looking options are available for far less money. ...but the fanbase loves the brand name, so they keep on keepin' on.
Go ahead & tell me I'm wrong, even though I'm not. Technics' $1,200 turntable looks 1 to 1 identical to Technics' $4,000 turntable from 5 feet away...and both of those turntables contain features that 9 out of 10 of their owners will NEVER TOUCH. ...and while I know the $1,200 'table & $4,000 'table aren't made from the same materials, they do LOOK the same. That's not exactly "good" imho. Why would I want to spend 3.5x the $$$ for a product that looks EXACTLY THE SAME? How long have Technics been offering like 5 turntables & 4 of them look identical to one another? The only 'table they make that looks different is the one w/ the standalone PSU that costs like $10k.
These 'tables are priced and marketed to "audiophiles"...but they're loaded with features that are completely useless to non-DJs. Why do we have to pay for pitch shifters and lights that we don't want, don't need and will never use? It has been DECADES. Why can't Technics remove these useless options that hurt the looks of their product while also making their product cost more $$$?
EDIT: btw, I'm not trying to act like Technics' turntables are bad. I know they aren't. Reputation is earned and I get that. ...but, at the same time, it is completely possible for a brand to rest on their butt and coast along on their reputation. That is, beyond doubt, what Technics are doing with their turntable line. So, they are great turntables...but they are also overpriced and outdated turntables that contain many unnecessary and unwanted features. They don't ever update the look of them. These criticisms are factual and valid. All of them. Why can't this amazing brand try out something different? No one is saying they have to quit doing what brought them to the dance...but try something new once per decade at least. Keep churnin' out the greatest hits...but try to write a new one occasionally. Sheesh.
...and the Technics shown in this video costs THOUSANDS of dollars all said, with the accessories and tools shown. Those optical cartridges & phono preamps certainly aren't being given away. There wasn't a syllable mentioned regarding the price of anything in the video, as far as I can remember. There are literally craftsmen out here building custom bespoke turntables for substantially less money than this Technics would cost you. ...but, by all means...buy your JL Audio 13W7 today.
I hear you... Technics moves very very slowly as a company. They did just release the SL1300G which addresses many of you concerns. It looks different and does not have any of the DJ features you dislike. However, you cant argue with their success, they sell every table they make and there is often a waiting list for them. So... to me it sure looks like they know what they are doing.
@@SkyFiAudio Like I said. Reputation is earned. I ain't saying the product isn't good. I ain't saying they should stop doing what brought them to the dance.
Just do something different/new once in a while. It's not that difficult.
Even the new 'table you mentioned....looks just like everything else. It just doesn't have the pitch control slider & the light. Everything else is still the same.
It's lazy, man. It just is.
Fwend over damper for me
Everyone can use more fwends 😂
$500. Dollar head shell ? For a product that so called audiophiles wouldn’t touch years ago ! Too ghetto, too DJ , too Disco ? And now if you charge $5000. It’s cool ? All the newbies and well heeled can say , I’m not one of those people ? I’m a Audiophile?
Radio stations , record shops , archives , and Real music people ! Know about these ?
And trust me or not , but you don’t in no shape form or function do you need a $500. Head shell ! I can get original 1200s for that all day long ! Scam Alert ! Why must everything you people touch becomes a weapon or a profit ? If you can make a knife out of a drumstick you will ? If you can make it $5000. You will ? These things cost as much as you can get people to believe it should !
If I can get SL1200s for $500. And now their $4500. More than a original ? Does it keep speed $4500. Better ? I found a Sl 1400 in the trash ! Fixed it and some guy from Apple brought it…Immediately ! For $800. You’re killing your own hobby , by making it ridiculous and of no use to music ! If guitar cables cost as much as the instrument it would be doom ! If strings cost as much a guitar or a amplifier ? It’s the same with audio , hundreds of dollars cause somebody said your cables shouldn’t touch the floor ?
I can spend $20. On capacitors and get results that thousand cables can’t ! The fact that you deal McIntosh you know real tech and not Rock Oil …
I wonder if anyone dis on a pair of these beauties
Sure thing, I've seen it done. However the suspension on the 1200G isn't quite right for DJ's as it doesn't not have the same range or direction of motion.
Time out way to much stuff and work to go analog.
Here's the probelm with this "upgrade culture" This product was engineered and DESIGNED for those specific parts. The moment you start "upgrading" and changing stuff, it no longer works as intended. You may think it's "better" but those engineers never accounted for you faffing about replacing parts on the thing, so 9 times out of 10 you end up with a worse product, and wasting a bunch of money thinking you're "upgrading" it. It's like people who buy a $25000 watch then "bust it down" and put gross cheap diamonds all over it COMPLETELY devaluing the timepiece. Things like turntables are designed to work AS THEY ARE because its tuned for those parts. EVERY resonance is accoutned for, every weight
A bust down Technics.. now that’s a great idea. Ordering the 10,000 diamonds now. 😂
If you dont like tweaks , find another place to you and your ears.
Tweaking is a fun part of this fine hobby.
@janskovgaard8906, is he not allowed to share an opinion that doesn’t praise the content creator?
@@volpedo2000what’s the point of grown ass men complain about a free UA-cam video? Unless this person is 13 yrs old this comment is just boring.
Not so. Every product is designed to a price. There are always things the designer would have done differently with a larger budget and there is, also always a few more percent performance to be found
Denon DL-110 loaded 1200 GR for chillin', 1200 mk5 x 2 /Allen & Heath XONE 62 mixer for DJ duty in the house!🎉 P.S., I ❤ TONE CONTROL!😲