I've been struggling to pick between these 2 for a few months now and was finally able to choose thanks to this video. Gonna have a big dose of nostalgia soon to have a flip phone again 😊. Razr in 07' and now 23'
Typing from my z flip 5. I was kinda trying to make that same decision until I found out the moto runs the snap gen1 and the Sam runs the gen2. The difference between the battery life is insane. Love the gen2!
Probably the most rational comparison I've seen of these two phones. They seem very close, with just enough differences that you can make a choice. I finally got tired of my Samsung "normal" phone: even though it has huge battery life it was not a good hip carry (I've never kept my phone in a pants pocket). These two came alone just as I needed to make a change. I picked the Razr+ and any deficiencies in the photo image quality look like they can be fixed in post. I think that we're going to see some even more impressive flip phones over the next few years -- and gradual price reductions.
@@anthonylawson518 Yep. I got the Moto-endorsed cover for it (tried one from Amazon that would start slipping out of my hand at normal pressure) and a Turtleback belt holster (actually the model for the Samsung due to the cover making the Moto slightly thicker overall -- I sent photos and dimensions to Turtleback).
I've got both devices now and I will be keeping the Razr+/40 ultimate, and one thing I'd like to point out in regards to the cover screen: You cannot perform actions on notifications on the samsung, so no "mark message as read" or approve and MFA request. And in addition, despite it being a "widget focused cover screen" you can actually only use Samsung cover screen widgets, you cannot use the regular widgets. So if, for example, you have a Tesla, you cannot unlock car/open boot, etc from the notifications, and you cannot add the tesla widget to start heating etc. This would of course be true for any other apps with similar functionality (but I have a Tesla, so that's where my experience lies) So not only do you not get the power user content, you cannot even reliably use app content from other makers. As a widget cover screen I would give it a failing grade, just because you rely on app makers to make dedicated widgets for the cover screen (which they will not).
Whilst I appreciate your niche app perspective there, once you install good lock and launch standard apps from the cover screen all apps work great with few exceptions - there really is no need to rely on widgets. Also the hinge on the Samsung is of far higher quality.
I picked the zflip only because next year i will be able to trade it in for the newer version z flip 6 for very little cash. Motorola's offer for my trade in was ridiculously low. Thats truly where samsung shines and they know this. I still like the look of the razr better and i think their more stock software is better. As others have stated, you will be generally happy with either.
I totally agree. Try trading in a moto or a one plus and see what you get for it. I got 650. On a Note 8 trade in from my carrier. Unbelievable.
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This is so true. I live in latin america and I just got a flip 5. I traded in a OnePlus phone and the trade in value was higher than what I would get from flipping it on Facebook Marketplace or something of the sort. I love the Magenta color, the look of the Moto and the power user features of the cover display, but the assurances in terms of durability, warranty, and trade-in value next year from Samsung just really pushed it over the edge for me. Am I a boring adult??? I think so, lol
Very true! I looked at the trade-in on motorola and they only wanted to give you a couple hundred bucks, where as Samsung takes about 2/3 the cost off. Plus, Samsung's financing options are way better than the "Affinity" financing motorola uses. If Moto would step up in that department, they would get a higher volume of sales.
important consideration: There are no authorized vendors to do repairs to motorola so you need to mail it in when (not if) the screen breaks. Major hassle. I owned the razr and the screen was broken in 3 months with normal use
Watching this and patiently waiting on my flip 5 to be delivered on the 25th! Imo the the 5 looks way better! the razor looks like a 1st or 2nd gen while the 5 looks more executive! plus I love OneUI. Better processor, camera and $900 trade in doesn't hurt either!
I'm gonna be very honest with battery life. I'm not a big user with screentime (not scrolling social media and not streaming) I simply check emails and mostly use Spotify with my RAZR+. On standby my MR+ will last 5 to 6 days on standby (using super battery saver mode). And I turn off WiFi and data toggle, NFC and Bluetooth as well. I'm frugal and can stretch batter life if your doing it this way. I game instead with my OnePlus 11 and videos with my iPad mini 6. Really enjoy the Motorola RAZR plus.
The moto also supports all Bluetooth codecs with no restrictions. Something very few people mention. Samsung does not correctly support aptx adaptive, snapdragon sound, lhdc or aptx HD
I know ppl hate the 5w wireless charger but generally, I prefer a faster wired for a quick top off anyway. My phones are generally set to slow charge at night.
Thanks 🙏🏽 for this honest review I’m currently in the market for one of these phones I’m tryna get outta the iPhone rat race so I appreciate it you’ve earned a sub 👍🏽
this would be a much better review if you would actually say which phone is which in the video or put the name above them. I spent the entire video wondering which was which.
From time to time I do like a serious upgrade on my gadgets and I always check the tech wizards on UA-cam and this lady is my go to.... thank you ma'am
Got the Razr+ and don't regret it. For all the reasons Lisa mentioned, the Razr's outer screen works best for me. Additionally, something Mr. Mobile pointed out, it's a lot easier to use MFA on the Razr's outer screen. Given that I might have to use MFA multiple times in a day, that's already one big time saver.
I'm able to use it on my flip after installing good luck and adding duo as one of the options though wish Samsung was more like moto closed. It's more jumping through hoops to get things to work
without the moto, Samsung would have happily taken 2-3 more years before creating a full outer display. if you care about tech, you should support the Moto, rather than Samsung. even though the Samsung one is better.
That's quite a dumb statement. As consumers, you should purchase what you think is a superior product if it's the same price. The reason competition is good is so that you get good products. Not for us to support the inferior product.
Over a year later I'm still waiting for Android 13 on my Motorola phone and that's the only expected system update. Go with Samsung to stay up-to-date.
I watched this after buying my Razr + so I am glad to hear what I did.🎉. Now I just have to figure out how to do the unlock though for running apps on the outer screen.
I love the Raz the external display is insane.. and the battery life lasts longer .. I charge my phone every 3 day. But this is my secondary phone. I am more on my iPhone daily .. so I was wondering if this the reason my Raz life battery last longer
I just bought the Razr after being a ride or die Samsung user for over 12 years & I am obsessed with the Razr. Also low-key glad Motorola is finally coming back with a vengeance after ruling the phone scene in the 00s 😂
One of the reasons I like these flip phones is that I can "watch" youtube on the outside screen. I usually listen to some news journals or some talk shows which I'm more likely to care about what they say more then to watch the video.
Great comparison, thank you very much. Both definitely feel tempting to get, my problem is the size of the inner screen but those two outer displays (especially the Moto one) are very cool. Hopefully we see more manufactures do the same soon.
Yeah. The Flip is a blast to own and operate but the 3700 battery is disappointing. Especially coming from an iPhone, especially if coming from a Plus or Pro/Pro Max. Lisa is dead on about "moderate" use lasting a "day." I would say I use the Flip very moderately and by early evening, like, 8pm, the battery is often at 15%. So, don't expect to take the Flip for a night out without charging before you leave work or going home for a quick rejuicing before hitting the bars/clubs 🙃
@@RK-um9tu So much wrong here. First, I was discussing the Samsung Flip 5. Not any Motorola variant. Second, my prose makes it clear I was writing as a Flip 5 owner and user. So, to write that I don't know what I'm talking about is rather obtuse. Lastly, your attempt at a rejoinder, wherein you boast of your phone's three day battery life because you ONLY use the smaller, outer screen is not analagous or relevant to anything I discussed in my post. This was a poor effort. Remember in the future to take time to reread and revise your work.
Even if you are a power user, why would you want to use a small, flip phone with a large computer-style setup? It defeats the whole purpose of having a pocketable, fun phone. I would guess you likely have some sort of desktop / laptop / tablet setup anyway. So why would you need to run your phone's OS like a full fledged computer?
@@larryb4392 For travel. quite often places already have a tv. or if you're staying for a while, you can find a very cheap used monitor, and then sell it when you're done. Some places I've been, when taking night buses etc it's best to keep valuables in an inside zipped pocket of your jacket while sleeping. or staying in a shared place when traveling on the cheap. so why not just have the option? samsung allows DEX on all of their flagships except for the Flip. i think it's to help upsell the Fold phone. i know there are incredibly lightweight tablets and laptops, but that just adds another expensive item to keep track of.
I installed goodlock on my flip 5 im running all the same apps im running on my 40 ultra only thing the flip wont do is continue from main screen to outer but i can livevwith that..The flip build quality blows my ultra away,as does the hinge,no clunking etc like the ultra,which Motorola support told me is normal.i had the 2020razr almost 2 year support then end of support, my 2022 razr i still have is on Android 12 and noone from Motorola support can even tell us on the Motorola forums when we will get a upgrade,a for my ultra they are complaining already on the forums about security patches still on May,when july patch is out,dont gets me wrong the ultra is a great phone i just dont trust Motorola when it comes to updated,ill sell my razr,s and stick with samsung which roll out updates in a timely manner..
indeed. Nice to see someone who actually realises that the Flip 5's outer screen does not rely on widgets - Good Lock solves any app issues and allows you to use ANY app on the outer screen.
Tbh, in terms of the cover screen, the camera cutout on the Moto RAZR just seems like a gimmick since-with the cameras being that big- you can't really see or interact with anything behind them, there's literally no use for the display being under the camera. So if you think about that and the fact the the RAZR has a bigger forehead, the flip5 probably has a bigger screen that you can interact with
I have the Z Flip 4 (also had the Flip 3 which was just ok but as a guy I liked the form factor) and really like it. I am skipping the 5 and will likely get the 6 next year when it comes out. The Flip 4 was a big improvement over the 3 but other than the larger outer screen, which doesn't excite me, I don't see a reason to upgrade to the 5. However, if you don't own a folding phone you don't know what you're missing. Its a great phone/camera that fits nicely in any pocket size. Also, I accidentally fell into salt water in the Gulf of Mexico with the Flip 4 in my pocket and it was unaffected. I saw Motorola has the Razr+ on sale for $799. That's a solid deal.
@@kramshiron What you are talking about are incremental upgrades. The hinge on my Flip 4 works great and speed is also excellent. The larger outside screen is nice to have but certainly not a must have. But if you don't own one then the 5 would be my 1st choice for the incremental upgrades. But no, it's not "way better". Just you saying that makes me laugh.
Another great review. I am a Samsung Flip 4 user & having seen numerous reviews I'm now waiting for my Flip 5. The Flip 5 is a better quality & although the Flip 5 has no dust rating it actually & very convincingly beat the Razr Ultra in the live utube dust test & fold test that was done last week. Flip 5 over 400,000 & Razr 126,000.. Dust got into the Razr hinge & under the screen.
So Samsung has no dust rating and beat Moto.? Are you saying these ratings are BS. If so than Samsung 's water resistance rating is also BS. Guess you look pretty silly right about now.
It seems like no one is willing to admit that Moto has a much better product. Its sleeker, more beautiful, smaller, has amazing Moto Android integration, and dosen't require apps to be approved by Samsung on the front screen. And with that it takes the cake. And to mention as well, it beats the folds by Samsung and Google. You don't have a brick in your pocket, which is a huge drawback when it comes to working out or going to the gym, and the fold feature there is very lightly used. Its actually a step backwards compared to the functionality of the Surface Duo 2 if your looking for sole productivity, as it relies on software multitasking instead of the benefits of hardware design. With this hardware design, you get much more use during the realities of everyday life, especially with Moto's full cover display where apps don't have to be pre-approved. It's possibly the best phone made yet and I think it's catching a lot of tech reviewers by surprise.
No one wants to admit that no one is buying the Moto. Main reason is that Samsung offers 5 years of updates and has more integrated software with their ecosystem. Case closed
@@Johnnyiswhere Bah. Very few people in developed markets are willing to stick to the same phone for five years, and those people are probably not the target audience for a flagship anyway. Both Razr+ and Flip 5 are seemingly marketed towards millennial or Gen Z creators. Those are the folks who love being on the bleeding edge. They will change their phone sooner than they change underwear. Moreover, not everyone appreciates a lock-in to a very integrated ecosystem. If I wanted to get all my tech gear from the same company for eternity, I'd start with getting an Iphone.
@apronichkin not everyone, but most Samsung users, yes. Which is why the Z flip will outsell the Moto 10× over. I'm sure the Moto is a good product, and I'm glad people like it as we need the competition to drive tech forward. But there are so many intangibles that just make the flip the winner for me. Updates aside, better cameras, better wireless charging, battery life, better trade in offers, slicker hinge, better access to accessories. I could go on...
@@adeomara5361 I don't disagree. Those are very nice things. (Apart from the "better OS" and "ecosystem". Those are debatable and subjective.) I would gladly take them if they were "for free" (i.e., without compromising other things.) What I'm saying is those might not be the main reasons for many people. E.g., for me personally, the looks, almost vanilla Android, dust resistance, battery life, bigger screen, etc. are all more important factors than 5 years of support or trade-in value. Which is why I'm a happy Razr+ user. So, to me, it's not that obvious that "no one is buying the Moto".
Lets just appreciate them both or the respective you one prefer. Lets be humans and not bash eachother over which android flip phone is superior. Dont let them distract you from what really matter: laughing at apple users.
There was a phone with an LCD on one side an an e-ink screen on the back side. That is a genius idea. But I guess it wasn't popular, and obviously didn't release in the USA.
Now "flipping fine phones" has had to happen - i approved of that. Also - after years of being able to recover the phone in working order after my cats kicked it in the filled bathtub there's no way to go back to a nada phone.
Aside fro the better software, aod and better durability, my main factor is the screen... why doesn't Motorola have multiple modes and adjust-ability for their screen tones? i have no time for yellowish screens.
I thought this was a fair video to both phones. The only thing I noticed was in some shots the Moto's brightness was turned down to a lower level. I leave mine at 50% most if the time. The phone is very capable of being super bright when you need it to be. Also there is a saturation adjustment in the Razr's settings. The biggest flaw for me is the poor stabilization when shooting video. Lastly, i dont care about the always in display not being there. I just touch to he phone. I would like a little red or green dot for notifications that works on both screens when the phone is in standby. Other than that i like the Razr this time around. Both phones have huge improvements and you will probably be happy with either one. Lastly, put the phone in a good case. I'm using the Zagg case on my Razr. Avoid the cheap $10 cases
Both phones were set to auto-brightness without any adjustments. As I mentioned, Moto tends to run the displays less bright on auto-brightness, which helps with battery life but... isn't as bright.
Outer display software goes to Moto, build quality to Samsung. I own both phones. The moto is more "fun" cause you are not restricted to what app you can open and respond to all notifications. Samsung is best cause I'm in their eco system and their apps and accessories are way more developed
Ever heard of Good Lock? Z5 can run literally ANYTHING on the front display. 😎 And most stuff is actually programmed for the z5 front display, not like motorlola who doesnt update their sht for years lol.
I believe the Samsung might have some dust resistance but it's not officially rated. Flip takes a little better photos, and overall better build quality.
I got myself a Razr+, my first new phone in almost a decade. (After using an old Windows Phone since 2015.) I got it after your review I watched a few months back, and I still believe it's a better phone for me compared to Samsung. I like Motorola's design, colors, external screen, battery, dust resistance, etc. Moreover, I dislike being dragged into Samsung's ecosystem, their duplicate apps and proprietary UX. That said, unfortunately, you cannot get a Razr+ with 512 GB in the US. (Apparently, you can get a Razr 40 ultra with 512 GB and 12 GB in Europe.) Also, Motorola purchasing experience and customer service leave much to be desired. And yes, camera kinda sucks, as well as having stuck to an older CPU. Aso, Samsung apparently offers better support and longer update period.
The camera is good in some situations and not in others, the same goes for Samsung. Motorola needs to go back to using Sony sensors and believe me it would do better than Samsung. Particularly when I buy a cell phone, I do it because of the operating system and for me the best ones are still iOS and Android Stock.
Well after what you said I wonder why you bought that shitty trasharola plus? I would never buy that trash phone. Poorly manufactured. Breaks much earlier. Only disadvantages. No updates. No good.
@@yungtaeM9706 I don't see how it's "poorly manufactured". Some reviewers say that Samsung build quality is *very slightly* better but I have no problem with Motorola. Feels solid, and I like their design more. Lisa says it lays more confidently in the hand, which is important for me because I'm clumsy. "Breaks much earlier" and "no updates" are only valid points if you can see into the future. I cannot. I have no idea where it will stand one year from now. For me, one year is all I need. I hope that next year we'll have better phones, from multiple manufacturers, so that we can choose again. But so far, it's a great phone. It has great screens (bigger and better than Samsung), better dust resistance, less seemed crease, longer battery life, better wired charging (but worse wireless charging), better OS (no Samsung bloatware and no need to jump through hoops to use arbitrary apps on external screen), etc. Of course, there are downsides in Razr+ as well, biggest one being the cameras. But the pros overweight the cons for me, so far.
@@apronichkin I can hear you have no clue about smartphones. That's fine. Be happy with that trash phone. But all you mentioned is nonsense. You really listen to an 70 year old lady who talks about phones???you must be outta your mind. But go ahead. Be happy with that poorly manufactured phone. Besides a lot of reviewers mention that. Not only me. Better dust resistance?hahaha. Ok. If you believe so.
@@apronichkin The Razr has a hollow spot under the cover screen that can crack the glass if you put too much pressure on the hinge. You don't gotta see the future for that. But I doubt the Flip would hold up much better if at all.
Lisa you are a gift. There's not enough direct comparison vids of these despite being direct competitors
I've been struggling to pick between these 2 for a few months now and was finally able to choose thanks to this video. Gonna have a big dose of nostalgia soon to have a flip phone again 😊. Razr in 07' and now 23'
Do you have the razor now cuz I'm making the same decision
What pushed over to Razr? Not to date myself but I used to have a Startac.
Same 👍🏾
Typing from my z flip 5. I was kinda trying to make that same decision until I found out the moto runs the snap gen1 and the Sam runs the gen2. The difference between the battery life is insane. Love the gen2!
how long does your flip5 last?@@sethpujol1704
Wow Lisa I was literally searching flip 5 vs razr on UA-cam and u just uploaded this lolll thanks!
Probably the most rational comparison I've seen of these two phones. They seem very close, with just enough differences that you can make a choice.
I finally got tired of my Samsung "normal" phone: even though it has huge battery life it was not a good hip carry (I've never kept my phone in a pants pocket). These two came alone just as I needed to make a change. I picked the Razr+ and any deficiencies in the photo image quality look like they can be fixed in post. I think that we're going to see some even more impressive flip phones over the next few years -- and gradual price reductions.
are you still rockin the Razr?
@@anthonylawson518 Yep. I got the Moto-endorsed cover for it (tried one from Amazon that would start slipping out of my hand at normal pressure) and a Turtleback belt holster (actually the model for the Samsung due to the cover making the Moto slightly thicker overall -- I sent photos and dimensions to Turtleback).
I've got both devices now and I will be keeping the Razr+/40 ultimate, and one thing I'd like to point out in regards to the cover screen:
You cannot perform actions on notifications on the samsung, so no "mark message as read" or approve and MFA request. And in addition, despite it being a "widget focused cover screen" you can actually only use Samsung cover screen widgets, you cannot use the regular widgets.
So if, for example, you have a Tesla, you cannot unlock car/open boot, etc from the notifications, and you cannot add the tesla widget to start heating etc. This would of course be true for any other apps with similar functionality (but I have a Tesla, so that's where my experience lies)
So not only do you not get the power user content, you cannot even reliably use app content from other makers.
As a widget cover screen I would give it a failing grade, just because you rely on app makers to make dedicated widgets for the cover screen (which they will not).
Whilst I appreciate your niche app perspective there, once you install good lock and launch standard apps from the cover screen all apps work great with few exceptions - there really is no need to rely on widgets. Also the hinge on the Samsung is of far higher quality.
I picked the zflip only because next year i will be able to trade it in for the newer version z flip 6 for very little cash. Motorola's offer for my trade in was ridiculously low. Thats truly where samsung shines and they know this. I still like the look of the razr better and i think their more stock software is better. As others have stated, you will be generally happy with either.
I totally agree. Try trading in a moto or a one plus and see what you get for it. I got 650. On a Note 8 trade in from my carrier. Unbelievable.
This is so true. I live in latin america and I just got a flip 5. I traded in a OnePlus phone and the trade in value was higher than what I would get from flipping it on Facebook Marketplace or something of the sort. I love the Magenta color, the look of the Moto and the power user features of the cover display, but the assurances in terms of durability, warranty, and trade-in value next year from Samsung just really pushed it over the edge for me. Am I a boring adult??? I think so, lol
Very true! I looked at the trade-in on motorola and they only wanted to give you a couple hundred bucks, where as Samsung takes about 2/3 the cost off. Plus, Samsung's financing options are way better than the "Affinity" financing motorola uses. If Moto would step up in that department, they would get a higher volume of sales.
I'm torn between the two phones do you like the z flip 5
@I have a one plus now and wanna trade it in for a either one
important consideration: There are no authorized vendors to do repairs to motorola so you need to mail it in when (not if) the screen breaks. Major hassle. I owned the razr and the screen was broken in 3 months with normal use
razr + for me just pick one up yesterday due to the external Display
Lisa, great review as always. I agree, they are so close, you could put them in a hat and whichever one you choose you couldn't go wrong.
Watching this and patiently waiting on my flip 5 to be delivered on the 25th! Imo the the 5 looks way better! the razor looks like a 1st or 2nd gen while the 5 looks more executive! plus I love OneUI. Better processor, camera and $900 trade in doesn't hurt either!
The look is the only thing better lol
@@deezmixednutz6660 apart from the build quality, chipset and camera. Did you even watch the video?
Good video comparison! I wasn’t the one who asked for a smack down comparison but definitely am adding my voice to that camp.
I'm gonna be very honest with battery life. I'm not a big user with screentime (not scrolling social media and not streaming)
I simply check emails and mostly use Spotify with my RAZR+. On standby my MR+ will last 5 to 6 days on standby (using super battery saver mode). And I turn off WiFi and data toggle, NFC and Bluetooth as well. I'm frugal and can stretch batter life if your doing it this way. I game instead with my OnePlus 11 and videos with my iPad mini 6.
Really enjoy the Motorola RAZR plus.
The moto also supports all Bluetooth codecs with no restrictions. Something very few people mention. Samsung does not correctly support aptx adaptive, snapdragon sound, lhdc or aptx HD
I know ppl hate the 5w wireless charger but generally, I prefer a faster wired for a quick top off anyway. My phones are generally set to slow charge at night.
havent watched ur channel in a while but honestly u r one of the best reviewers u stick to the product and i like that a lot
Thanks 🙏🏽 for this honest review I’m currently in the market for one of these phones I’m tryna get outta the iPhone rat race so I appreciate it you’ve earned a sub 👍🏽
this would be a much better review if you would actually say which phone is which in the video or put the name above them. I spent the entire video wondering which was which.
Love this Vid , been looking for a Head 2 Head for weeks now !! Thank you
This are the best reviews anywhere there are. Keep at it.
Just the review I was looking for. Also, awesome shirt!
This was a really helpful comparison. Thank you :)
you are the best, but this audio was muffled in spot. just a note :) love you!
I love my razr+! ❤
I plan to watch UA-cam on the cover screen when I'm not home. I also plan to text on it and Google Maps, etc. It's going to be my main screen. 😊
From time to time I do like a serious upgrade on my gadgets and I always check the tech wizards on UA-cam and this lady is my go to.... thank you ma'am
I prefer the Moto with bigger screens and you can do whatever you want but the Samsung looks slick
Samsung doesn't make it easy, but Good Lock enables you to do anything the Moto does.
@@ljacobs357not everything actually. You don't get multitasking on outer display on samsung neither through good lock
Got the Razr+ and don't regret it. For all the reasons Lisa mentioned, the Razr's outer screen works best for me. Additionally, something Mr. Mobile pointed out, it's a lot easier to use MFA on the Razr's outer screen. Given that I might have to use MFA multiple times in a day, that's already one big time saver.
I'm able to use it on my flip after installing good luck and adding duo as one of the options though wish Samsung was more like moto closed. It's more jumping through hoops to get things to work
Yeah if I was going get a flip it would be a Motorola and a pixel fold
What is MFA?
@@jeffreywithrow2522 multi-factor authentication
@@jeffreywithrow2522multi factor authentication
I really enjoy your videos along with tech odyssey, you are straight to the point n no "blah blah blah"
Went with the Razr 40 ultra, plenty of "creative imagination used" with the layout, feels solid. Easy in the pocket. Ticked all the boxes for me!😊
without the moto, Samsung would have happily taken 2-3 more years before creating a full outer display.
if you care about tech, you should support the Moto, rather than Samsung. even though the Samsung one is better.
That's quite a dumb statement. As consumers, you should purchase what you think is a superior product if it's the same price. The reason competition is good is so that you get good products. Not for us to support the inferior product.
Very informative as always, thanks for the great video you were able to answer all my questions.
Over a year later I'm still waiting for Android 13 on my Motorola phone and that's the only expected system update. Go with Samsung to stay up-to-date.
Motor updated my flip within a month of purchase. So you clearly don't own a motor phone and are making things up.
I watched this after buying my Razr + so I am glad to hear what I did.🎉. Now I just have to figure out how to do the unlock though for running apps on the outer screen.
I love the Raz the external display is insane.. and the battery life lasts longer .. I charge my phone every 3 day. But this is my secondary phone. I am more on my iPhone daily .. so I was wondering if this the reason my Raz life battery last longer
I currently have a Z-Flip 4 and I will be getting the Razr+ just because I like a cleaner version of Android. Thanks for the comparison!
Lol what a total downgrade
@@johnsecret1318 In your "mind". Like I said I don't like Samsung software.
Has your Flip 4 got any crack in the screen of the middle part?@@steven3379
@@steven3379I agree. I have hated every samsung phone I've used because of their obnoxious interface getting in the way.
@@Mark-ux9sp Me too this is my second,, never again!
I just bought the Razr after being a ride or die Samsung user for over 12 years & I am obsessed with the Razr. Also low-key glad Motorola is finally coming back with a vengeance after ruling the phone scene in the 00s 😂
One of the reasons I like these flip phones is that I can "watch" youtube on the outside screen. I usually listen to some news journals or some talk shows which I'm more likely to care about what they say more then to watch the video.
Thank You!😊
Another great video! Thanks Lisa.
I switch from iphone to s22 ultra last year I usual get the biggest phones but I want to go smaller I really want the z flip 5 in lavender
Does anybody know if these flip screens' quality is just as good as the normal OLED screen from a traditional candy bar style phones?
Great comparison, thank you very much. Both definitely feel tempting to get, my problem is the size of the inner screen but those two outer displays (especially the Moto one) are very cool. Hopefully we see more manufactures do the same soon.
Yeah. The Flip is a blast to own and operate but the 3700 battery is disappointing. Especially coming from an iPhone, especially if coming from a Plus or Pro/Pro Max. Lisa is dead on about "moderate" use lasting a "day." I would say I use the Flip very moderately and by early evening, like, 8pm, the battery is often at 15%. So, don't expect to take the Flip for a night out without charging before you leave work or going home for a quick rejuicing before hitting the bars/clubs 🙃
My motor flip lasts over 3 days because I only use the outer screen. So I guess you don't know what you are talking about.
@@RK-um9tu So much wrong here. First, I was discussing the Samsung Flip 5. Not any Motorola variant. Second, my prose makes it clear I was writing as a Flip 5 owner and user. So, to write that I don't know what I'm talking about is rather obtuse. Lastly, your attempt at a rejoinder, wherein you boast of your phone's three day battery life because you ONLY use the smaller, outer screen is not analagous or relevant to anything I discussed in my post.
This was a poor effort. Remember in the future to take time to reread and revise your work.
Thx for this video. you are the pone who helped me decide to purchase 2 Acer Laptop a few days back.
I love my Razor+. Use to do Samsung but too vanilla for me in last few years. Got my Razor for $699
Motorola allows the Ready For desktop mode with theirs. While Samsung doesn't let you use DEX. That makes the choice pretty easy for me.
Why do you use Ready For?
Even if you are a power user, why would you want to use a small, flip phone with a large computer-style setup? It defeats the whole purpose of having a pocketable, fun phone. I would guess you likely have some sort of desktop / laptop / tablet setup anyway. So why would you need to run your phone's OS like a full fledged computer?
@@larryb4392 For travel. quite often places already have a tv. or if you're staying for a while, you can find a very cheap used monitor, and then sell it when you're done.
Some places I've been, when taking night buses etc it's best to keep valuables in an inside zipped pocket of your jacket while sleeping. or staying in a shared place when traveling on the cheap.
so why not just have the option?
samsung allows DEX on all of their flagships except for the Flip. i think it's to help upsell the Fold phone.
i know there are incredibly lightweight tablets and laptops, but that just adds another expensive item to keep track of.
@@SWACBUZZ I haven't actually used it yet. But I regularly use DEX on my older samsung phone. and I newer pocketable phone with that ability.
@@larryb4392 This is what I'm wondering too. I think it's interesting just want to know the purposes of using it.
I installed goodlock on my flip 5 im running all the same apps im running on my 40 ultra only thing the flip wont do is continue from main screen to outer but i can livevwith that..The flip build quality blows my ultra away,as does the hinge,no clunking etc like the ultra,which Motorola support told me is normal.i had the 2020razr almost 2 year support then end of support, my 2022 razr i still have is on Android 12 and noone from Motorola support can even tell us on the Motorola forums when we will get a upgrade,a for my ultra they are complaining already on the forums about security patches still on May,when july patch is out,dont gets me wrong the ultra is a great phone i just dont trust Motorola when it comes to updated,ill sell my razr,s and stick with samsung which roll out updates in a timely manner..
indeed. Nice to see someone who actually realises that the Flip 5's outer screen does not rely on widgets - Good Lock solves any app issues and allows you to use ANY app on the outer screen.
Tbh, in terms of the cover screen, the camera cutout on the Moto RAZR just seems like a gimmick since-with the cameras being that big- you can't really see or interact with anything behind them, there's literally no use for the display being under the camera.
So if you think about that and the fact the the RAZR has a bigger forehead, the flip5 probably has a bigger screen that you can interact with
I have the Z Flip 4 (also had the Flip 3 which was just ok but as a guy I liked the form factor) and really like it. I am skipping the 5 and will likely get the 6 next year when it comes out. The Flip 4 was a big improvement over the 3 but other than the larger outer screen, which doesn't excite me, I don't see a reason to upgrade to the 5. However, if you don't own a folding phone you don't know what you're missing. Its a great phone/camera that fits nicely in any pocket size. Also, I accidentally fell into salt water in the Gulf of Mexico with the Flip 4 in my pocket and it was unaffected. I saw Motorola has the Razr+ on sale for $799. That's a solid deal.
Better hinge…snapdragon gen 2 ,more usable outer screen etc etc….way better than flip 4.
@@kramshiron What you are talking about are incremental upgrades. The hinge on my Flip 4 works great and speed is also excellent. The larger outside screen is nice to have but certainly not a must have. But if you don't own one then the 5 would be my 1st choice for the incremental upgrades. But no, it's not "way better". Just you saying that makes me laugh.
@@robyork9554 get the 5 …then see for yourself.
I got the razr +2023
For $600 at Best Buy
I'm happy with it. Does what I need it to do
Another great review. I am a Samsung Flip 4 user & having seen numerous reviews I'm now waiting for my Flip 5. The Flip 5 is a better quality & although the Flip 5 has no dust rating it actually & very convincingly beat the Razr Ultra in the live utube dust test & fold test that was done last week. Flip 5 over 400,000 & Razr 126,000.. Dust got into the Razr hinge & under the screen.
You shouldn't rely on amateur tests. There are so many variables that can influence those numbers.
Motorola is truly trash. Samsung is king compared to trasharola.
Has your Flip 4 got any crack in the screen of the folding park?
So Samsung has no dust rating and beat Moto.? Are you saying these ratings are BS. If so than Samsung 's water resistance rating is also BS. Guess you look pretty silly right about now.
You are my favorite tech reviewer, by far!!!!
Your voice is somehow nostalgic.
Yes! I love a good smackdown
I think the Samsung display looks better.
It seems like no one is willing to admit that Moto has a much better product. Its sleeker, more beautiful, smaller, has amazing Moto Android integration, and dosen't require apps to be approved by Samsung on the front screen. And with that it takes the cake. And to mention as well, it beats the folds by Samsung and Google. You don't have a brick in your pocket, which is a huge drawback when it comes to working out or going to the gym, and the fold feature there is very lightly used. Its actually a step backwards compared to the functionality of the Surface Duo 2 if your looking for sole productivity, as it relies on software multitasking instead of the benefits of hardware design. With this hardware design, you get much more use during the realities of everyday life, especially with Moto's full cover display where apps don't have to be pre-approved. It's possibly the best phone made yet and I think it's catching a lot of tech reviewers by surprise.
No one wants to admit that no one is buying the Moto. Main reason is that Samsung offers 5 years of updates and has more integrated software with their ecosystem. Case closed
@@Johnnyiswhere Bah. Very few people in developed markets are willing to stick to the same phone for five years, and those people are probably not the target audience for a flagship anyway.
Both Razr+ and Flip 5 are seemingly marketed towards millennial or Gen Z creators. Those are the folks who love being on the bleeding edge. They will change their phone sooner than they change underwear.
Moreover, not everyone appreciates a lock-in to a very integrated ecosystem. If I wanted to get all my tech gear from the same company for eternity, I'd start with getting an Iphone.
@apronichkin not everyone, but most Samsung users, yes. Which is why the Z flip will outsell the Moto 10× over.
I'm sure the Moto is a good product, and I'm glad people like it as we need the competition to drive tech forward.
But there are so many intangibles that just make the flip the winner for me. Updates aside, better cameras, better wireless charging, battery life, better trade in offers, slicker hinge, better access to accessories. I could go on...
5 years update, cheap when trade for newer version, better OS, ecosystem and etc. Like who doesn't want that? Samsung definitely win here
@@adeomara5361 I don't disagree. Those are very nice things. (Apart from the "better OS" and "ecosystem". Those are debatable and subjective.) I would gladly take them if they were "for free" (i.e., without compromising other things.)
What I'm saying is those might not be the main reasons for many people. E.g., for me personally, the looks, almost vanilla Android, dust resistance, battery life, bigger screen, etc. are all more important factors than 5 years of support or trade-in value. Which is why I'm a happy Razr+ user. So, to me, it's not that obvious that "no one is buying the Moto".
I love your reviews.
I have that exact same dragon ball z shirt and I was trippin for a second when I saw you wearing it on yt xD
Does the coverscreen for Moto go brighter than you had it?
Yes, she said both were set to auto, so if you turn off auto it will go brighter. About 50% she said they were on
i have the same T-shirt, super cool.
so....just purchase both?
The cover display is great for movies and youtube imo
I just want to know if you can hang up on people by closing your phone cuz what's a folding phone for if you can't do that lol
Lisa!,Thanks Much !.......
Hi I would like to know can you use Samsung Wallet on the front screen on the Z Flip 5? Thanks
Razr+ ❤
Waiting for your S9 ultra review.
Don't forget the faster storage and better memory on the Samsung Flip 5.
I ultimately went with Samsung after much review. And it boiled down to functionality for me (certain features) and all my notes.
You never state what features...
@@RK-um9tu OneUi features mainly
I just dont like the crease...I have seen some bad creases..
I think the UA-cam and Netflix front screen apps on the Flip are mostly there for casting purposes
Swapped my flip 5 to the moto razr ultra, dont regret my choice at all, moto for the win for me 😍
"This probably hinges on something to do with the display" . Nice 😀
I so want the zflip5, but not having the dex is making me not buy it.
dex?
Thanks for doing this
And the winner is: Moto Razr+
Love my Motorola razor plus 2023 I've had it since October it's an awesome phone😊
And the winner is Flip 5😃
The winner is the one that costs less.
Lets just appreciate them both or the respective you one prefer. Lets be humans and not bash eachother over which android flip phone is superior. Dont let them distract you from what really matter: laughing at apple users.
CAn you open the samsung underwater? Good vid
I really just use the external screen for quick replies, movie ticket scanning, and gym scanning.
Samsung
Galaxy Z
Flip 5 perfect.👍
phone allrounder
Lisa you're my favorite tech reviewer
great tshirt!
Samsung easy choice
its only a matter of before we get slate phones with fill screens on both sides
I think they tried that, but Noone bought it because it was impractical af
There was a phone with an LCD on one side an an e-ink screen on the back side.
That is a genius idea. But I guess it wasn't popular, and obviously didn't release in the USA.
The galaxy would be the definite winner if it had distributed protection and more cover screen options.
Watched this on the flip 5 cover screen lol
Same lol do you like the flip I got the cream color
@@ej13012010 ngl I love this phone, I got the blue kinda wanted the green tho.
I got the Samsung z flip fold no problem with it Samsung is the best 👌 phone out there Samsung has it all rapped up
Thanks for sharing all that evidence. Pretty clear you aren't a fanboy... Lol
Now "flipping fine phones" has had to happen - i approved of that. Also - after years of being able to recover the phone in working order after my cats kicked it in the filled bathtub there's no way to go back to a nada phone.
Love your shirt!!!
Aside fro the better software, aod and better durability, my main factor is the screen... why doesn't Motorola have multiple modes and adjust-ability for their screen tones? i have no time for yellowish screens.
I thought this was a fair video to both phones. The only thing I noticed was in some shots the Moto's brightness was turned down to a lower level. I leave mine at 50% most if the time. The phone is very capable of being super bright when you need it to be. Also there is a saturation adjustment in the Razr's settings. The biggest flaw for me is the poor stabilization when shooting video. Lastly, i dont care about the always in display not being there. I just touch to he phone. I would like a little red or green dot for notifications that works on both screens when the phone is in standby. Other than that i like the Razr this time around. Both phones have huge improvements and you will probably be happy with either one. Lastly, put the phone in a good case. I'm using the Zagg case on my Razr. Avoid the cheap $10 cases
Both phones were set to auto-brightness without any adjustments. As I mentioned, Moto tends to run the displays less bright on auto-brightness, which helps with battery life but... isn't as bright.
That makes sense. @@mobiletechreview
The Samsung feels lot more sturdy (the hinge) that's on thing i think!
How would you know? Do you own both. Also Sammy is glass so what is sturdy about that+
Im just here to see what lisa is wearing on her T shirts today. not disappointed at all
For exterior the edges reminds me of modern iphones vs iphone 6 design
Razr+ is the best flip phone on the market still
Outer display software goes to Moto, build quality to Samsung. I own both phones. The moto is more "fun" cause you are not restricted to what app you can open and respond to all notifications. Samsung is best cause I'm in their eco system and their apps and accessories are way more developed
Ever heard of Good Lock? Z5 can run literally ANYTHING on the front display. 😎 And most stuff is actually programmed for the z5 front display, not like motorlola who doesnt update their sht for years lol.
You don't own both so why are you making stuff up? And if you did you wouldn't say Samsung is better.
To be fair it's the 8 gen 1+ there is a different with the plus, mid cycle refresh.
I believe the Samsung might have some dust resistance but it's not officially rated. Flip takes a little better photos, and overall better build quality.
Samsung is not rated for dust resistant and that is a fact. Your other comments are also not based on reality either.
I got myself a Razr+, my first new phone in almost a decade. (After using an old Windows Phone since 2015.) I got it after your review I watched a few months back, and I still believe it's a better phone for me compared to Samsung. I like Motorola's design, colors, external screen, battery, dust resistance, etc. Moreover, I dislike being dragged into Samsung's ecosystem, their duplicate apps and proprietary UX.
That said, unfortunately, you cannot get a Razr+ with 512 GB in the US. (Apparently, you can get a Razr 40 ultra with 512 GB and 12 GB in Europe.) Also, Motorola purchasing experience and customer service leave much to be desired. And yes, camera kinda sucks, as well as having stuck to an older CPU. Aso, Samsung apparently offers better support and longer update period.
The camera is good in some situations and not in others, the same goes for Samsung. Motorola needs to go back to using Sony sensors and believe me it would do better than Samsung. Particularly when I buy a cell phone, I do it because of the operating system and for me the best ones are still iOS and Android Stock.
Well after what you said I wonder why you bought that shitty trasharola plus? I would never buy that trash phone. Poorly manufactured. Breaks much earlier. Only disadvantages. No updates. No good.
@@yungtaeM9706 I don't see how it's "poorly manufactured". Some reviewers say that Samsung build quality is *very slightly* better but I have no problem with Motorola. Feels solid, and I like their design more. Lisa says it lays more confidently in the hand, which is important for me because I'm clumsy.
"Breaks much earlier" and "no updates" are only valid points if you can see into the future. I cannot. I have no idea where it will stand one year from now. For me, one year is all I need. I hope that next year we'll have better phones, from multiple manufacturers, so that we can choose again.
But so far, it's a great phone. It has great screens (bigger and better than Samsung), better dust resistance, less seemed crease, longer battery life, better wired charging (but worse wireless charging), better OS (no Samsung bloatware and no need to jump through hoops to use arbitrary apps on external screen), etc.
Of course, there are downsides in Razr+ as well, biggest one being the cameras. But the pros overweight the cons for me, so far.
@@apronichkin I can hear you have no clue about smartphones. That's fine. Be happy with that trash phone. But all you mentioned is nonsense. You really listen to an 70 year old lady who talks about phones???you must be outta your mind. But go ahead. Be happy with that poorly manufactured phone. Besides a lot of reviewers mention that. Not only me. Better dust resistance?hahaha. Ok. If you believe so.
@@apronichkin The Razr has a hollow spot under the cover screen that can crack the glass if you put too much pressure on the hinge. You don't gotta see the future for that.
But I doubt the Flip would hold up much better if at all.
I love your shirt
Hi... first...I need to buy a lottery ticket! Hahaha... Cheers!
Inflation is destroying any chance of getting anything nice in the future.