opoja5e Not confirmed yet but it could possibly be any of these cars or maybe Toyota is going to lunch a few new models: 1. Toyota Corolla 2. Toyota Hilux 3. Toyota GT 86 4. Toyota Camry 5. Toyota Auris 6. Toyota RAV4 7. Toyota Verso 8. Toyota Innova 9. Toyota Celica (Relaunch maybe) 10. Toyota Harrier 11. Toyota Wish 12. Toyota Mark 2 (Relaunch maybe) 13. Toyota MR2 (Relaunch maybe) 14. Toyota Picnic
Septimius Severus you have got absolutely right! Military class reliability and durability on the civilian market! TOYOTA and Lexus cars are the best! There are no substitutes!
Suhel Sheth So who made the best Diesel engines in the whole planet (Land Cruisers, Hiluxes, Tundra, Sequoias, etc) and the most sophisticated sports car ever - the Lexus LFA (very first car made from carbon fibers!!!) By the way. BMW is not as excellent as TOYOTA brand but it is still good! Outsourcing and cooperation with BMW is no shame for TOYOTA. And we have to remember that new GR (German?) Supra is better car in every aspect than Z4 thanks to extraordinary platform and chassis engineered by TOYOTA.
@@karlballistator when Toyota make it then I got no issues but when they think it's a good idea to get others involved then you Toyota lover get up set just like me ... I have a toyota Rav4 tx3 D4D engine is still running solid
Just bought one. Old one (1.8ltr Corolla) also had CVT. This 2-litre seems to have a fixed first gear, then into CVT as you accelerate. I loved the old one - it was sooo smooth. The new one is more... clunky, away from stopped, with the fixed first gear. 5.9 litres per 100kms on a recent trip. 1400RPM at steady 100kph on flat ground. With only 1600 kms on the clock , it is early days.
CVTs having a comeback to mainstream is great. I really think that this is a huge hit if improved and implemented properly, seeing it being banned in F1 because it was wrecking other cars is a huge technological cockblock in history.
Once you "get the feel of it", the modern generation CVT is just great to drive. Simple, reliable and lasts forever. I have two friends, one with a BMW, the other with a Passat. The BMW's first gear dont work, the 2 year old Passat's DCG has been to repair for 5 weeks. "Advanced" transmissions like DCG are prone to fail and are very expensive to repair.
Since nobody listens or understands this transmission and everybody posts about how bad CVT's try and understand what they are trying to achieve. This CVT can step through the belt positions with the vane pump and has a low speed gear that allows the engine to start and rev up to get into it's power RPM range by over speeding the Drive "pulley" to engage the transmission quicker. They are fixing the CVT lag, and trying to get more torque to the ground faster.
CVT's are still rubber band heaps of junk that break, have less power and produce the most awful droning sound on earth. I'll stick to my manual transmission thanks.
Trying is not enough. Sure the load is removed upon take offs with with the addition of first gear, but once driving and want to go faster quickly stepping on the gas will cause a hi load and cause failure. There's a good reason they are not adding cvts on larger vehicles.
Key word trying. Quit beating a dead horse. The CVT needs to be dead already. Do those that haven’t bought a car with one only to fail just out of warranty and no repair shops will touch it. You can’t speak.
The CVT is actually a very smooth driving experience compared to other 4cyl engines especially Toyotas CVT you do not get that jerking of gears while accelerating like you would with other geared 1-2L four-cylinder engines. Toyota knows how to make a cvt that last.
Ultimate triumph of technology!!! Incredibly high level of Japanese engineering... Now every TOYOTA (Prius, Auris, CHR, etc.) with that 2.0 HSD power train and TNGA architecture will became one of the best and fastest vehicles on the roads... This 2.0 HSD system will be real game changer in European motor industry. Fast. Efficient. And with legendary TOYOTA’s reliability!!!
Gravemind in a TOYOTA Way there are no rubber bands... It is steel band! You have to learn how tough a TOYOTA cars are. Other manufacturers make a consumer class cars. Only TOYOTA is making a military class cars (Land Cruiser, Hilux, etc.) Its unbreakable warrior spirit we have even in the smallest city cars made by TOYOTA. There are no substitutes on the market!
I've read that Toyota responded to drivers' dislike of 'constant revs' (I think), and programmed the computers to make the CVT appear to go through gears, whilst still within a narrow 'optimal' rev band.
Mini Has had this for years. My 07 Cooper has a CVT that has the "Steptronic" shifting that allows for 6 "Manual" gears. When put back into regular Overdrive it gains an extra ratio that allows for lower rps and better fuel economy.
My worry is that you'll only be able to get CVT type automatics on any car in the future. So far, these type transmissions seem to be laden with issues. Also, transmission problems are usually very expensive to fix.
My own car here in the U. S. of A. is a 2004 Mazda 3 with the 5-speed manual transmission. But recently, when I was in New Zealand, I rented a Toyauto Corolla with the CVT. In general it performed quite well, but there were things I didn't like about it. In the mountains I needed quick response so I usually put it into sport mode via a button on the center console. Unfortunately the button was hard to find without taking my eyes off of the rode. However, by increasing the minimum engine speed it did improve response. For some reason Toyauto apparently felt that they had to make the CVT imitate a stepped transmission so when pushing the car hard, it would imitate an upshift; one could hear the engine speed drop somewhat. Two suggestions for improvement: Find a way for the driver to select sport mode without having to find a little button, and do not imitate a stepped transmission by simulating gear shifts!
I hate that too. I've driven stick shift all my life and just got the new turbo CRV with a very nice CVT, but it does the fake upshifts because that's what the public needs to feel "familiar". CVTs offer unlimited gear ratios for smooth efficient linear acceleration. If I wanted to feel upshifts I'd go back to driving stick.
@Tim Monahan Ironically, when the first auto-slush boxes came out companies touted how many gears their cars had and how smooth the shifts were. CVTs make all of that moot, but so many need to feel the RPMs coincide with up-shifts... I still have an old Vtec Prelude SH where I can happily row the gears, but I'm very happy with today's CVTs as well.
William Su this isn’t a real cvt a real cvt is for when you have more than 8 or so possible gear ratios and instead of making a 10 speed automatic since it’s there’s so many moving parts that’s where cvt steps in
well i think the point of cvt was to remove those gear shift delays + rev down for smooth gear up while maintaining a high rev. then here are the smart toyota engineers, bringing them back on a cvt reducing the efficiency just because customers doesnt "feel" good about normal cvt.
On 21st Feb took delivery of a new car. Road tests before purchase included two CVT cars, a DSG and several manuals. I also drove the same model of car with a DSG and manual box. Didn’t like either of the CVT cars and decided on the DSG (free 5yr extended warranty). Since taking collection, it has converted me from manual cars.
Serge Whatever I own a civic too, and they both drive the same. It just toyota is a bit boring. You have to consider the tires you drove the cars with and how they are. Anyways Hondas nowadays are damn crap, they dont make them reliable anymore, Toyota all the way baby.
Harvey Millar They are crap because of the many problems they have like CVT transmission not working correctly, then failing. And many other stuff if you research online reviews. Hondas have fell behind considering reliability. The only top 2 is Lexus and Second is toyota. I know toyota makes lexus. But anyways I just wanted to clarify that you can never go wrong with Toyota, since it makes one of the most reliable cars on the planet. I own a 2001 corolla and my dad had the car for 8 years and never changed the oil, I changed it last year and still drives like new, and does not eat oil at all. I am serious man, Toyotas are solid made cars like literally tanks.
CVTs should be avoided as they give problems with Nissan being the worst. Honda lays it's reliable controls and gauges out well, most car buyers look for safety, fuel efficiency, good resale and are not bothered by grey and black interiors which are sensible. We have 2 Honda Civics, one with 250K the other with 160K, both trouble free.
The title of the video shows your misunderstanding about CVT gearing principle. In CVTs gear ratio is continuously varied. No discrete values such as 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, or 6 for the gearing ratio and torque ratio.
I'm all about having a CVT. Forget fuel efficiency; I just enjoy not having gear changes. Toyota makes extremely reliable CVTs, too, so it's a win-win.
3dr14n G haha that’s comical bud! Every cvt I have ever driven was significantly slower then its automatic/manual counterparts! Il take a zf 8 speed auto any day of the week!
Subaru CVTs are smaller, and provide low end torque than a belt cvt. Subaru's CVTs are chains that wear much slower than the conventional belt and can flex into smaller diameters around the pulleys. Most people who buy a car with a cvt transmission want good fuel efficiency, but you need to know what kind of CVT your make and model has and if the vehicle itself is reliable. My 2012 Subaru Outback 2.5i with the Lineartronic CVT has reached 125 mph, and has 135k miles. I live in northern Wisconsin, so i need a good awd system and Subaru's symmetrical awd has proven to be worthy of this weather and the CVT doesn't suck much power away from the boxer 4. Today it snowed about 1 foot and the Subaru plowed right through the roads. But having 30 degree weather for a week with more snow on the way is not fun in April. The CVT has its pro's and con's, but it works for my family.
I think they got that wrong this time.. they should have put a sport and eco mode selector that changed the belt ratio to the max torque or max efficiency, but this...
Instead of focusing on how well the car accelerates, I see toyota is focusing on how the driver SENSES the acceleration. In plain English: it FEELS like it is accelerating quickly, but it is not necessarily doing so. To me, it seems like a more sensible idea to have a car that feels like it is NOT accelerating - maybe even feels like it is standing still, whilst it is actually accelerating quite quickly.
Cafe Racer cvt from scooter and for cars work in different way, on scooter pulley diameters depends by rotational inertia, on cars is controlled by ecu
My understanding from a lot of research is that Toyota builds their own CVT while Nissan uses a 3rd party (part of their high failure rate?) So far all the information out there gives the Toyota unit high marks. Nissan required changes starting with the 2017 that "appear" to have resolved or at least improved it. I have found very little negative information about the Honda units ......
Hey everyone from canada! Just got my first toyota was a honda person not anymore for many reasons. Just got a 22 corolla but got the 6 speed.manual, paired with the 2.0, newer dynamic force motor. Now i can get 91 octane for same price as 87 octane. Only really do city driving was wondering if there wld be any benefit what so ever or if it would be even worse to run the 87. Im a car guy and know a little but this is past my expertise.
Just rented one and it sometimes feels like its slipping or other times the wrong gear and overall not satisfying to drive. But I did like the active braking and lane keep, I could text much easier.
I have 200,000+ miles on my Escape Hybrid with a CVT. It still runs like it's brand new. I've owned several brands of cars and I like different things about each of them, but the CVT has been the most effective at getting constant torque and has had zero issues or maintenance.
I have yet to see a lifetime belt!! If there is such a thing then why not make all timing belts with a lifetime belt!! Wear, tear & stretching of belt will need to be replaced and just like a timing belt job it’s always better to change other parts in there while you’re changing that timing/transmission belt which is more money to spend! It’s great moving forward with new ideas but again it will cost money to maintain. Before you have your timing belt to worry about soon you’ll have a transmission belt to worry about also.
@@rubiconnn CVT is a FAKE infinite torque, slips. Electric car is the only real infinite torque and instant torque. 100% ELECTRIC CAR NEITHER CARRY CVT BOX NOR AUTOMATIC BOX TRANSMISSION . CVT box and automatic box transmission will disappear with the arrival of electric car. ELECTRIC CAR NOT NEEDS BOX TRANSMISSION.
Damn, I should have paid attention while I was at Browning Power Transmission School. Still just a foreign language to me. Of course, in the hellish life I have lived my daughter is taking over now since she brought home a 2019 Toyota SE Corolla with none other than this 6 speed, continuously variable transmission. Hell, even I know this is smoke and shitty mirrors. I took a course in that too.
Dit was de uitvinding van onze DAF ( de van Doorn Automobiel Fabriek ) die zijn octrooirechten heeft verkocht aan verschillende autofabrikanten. Goed systeem voor een automaat. Deze mocht niet in de racerij ( F1) worden gebruikt!! 👍 . De schakelband was eerst een gewone V-snaar, geëvalueerde stalen schakelband.
Toyota has already got the electrical engineering tech to make highly reliable electric cars with excellent quality control measures, but they aren't rushing into EV's till they meet their reliability standards.
The belt type CVT is crap! I had a 2018 Prius C and after getting up to highway cruising speed, as long as the load change was mild, it was ok. The problem is when you're cruising along and, for one reason or another, you have to let off the throttle completely and then get back into it. The engine screams like it isn't connected to anything while the vehicle continues to decelerate slowly! If you let off the throttle and begin to slowly increase the throttle, then it MIGHT grab and continue driving the output. I traded the 2018 Prius C for a 2021 Corolla only to find a similar problem! Going over mildly hilly roads about 40 mph with the cruise engaged, coming out of a valley, the engine accelerates to between 4000 and 5000 rpm while there is no drive fed to the output. I'm thinking that metal plate belt is being driven by the driveline sheave and is "floating" around the driving sheave without engaging with the driving sheave. I have had this happen multiple times at various speeds and find it very frustrating! I'm curious how well the E-CVT in my 2023 Prius LE will perform.
dual direct and port injection for different engine loads? wow I have to trust Toyota engineers on this and wait and see. Increased Temperature control efficiency is also an important refinement for performance and fuel use. People always cry about change, but the best engineering always wins in the end. Many times consumers are actually crying about other things, when the engineers are simply solving problems within the constraints given to them by society and economics.
Just to balance this out, I have owned a CVT for 5 years , mileage 70,000 problems zero and it's an mg tf lol I believe it's the same gearbox used in the mini the difference been BMW state it's a seal unit and no change of oil required , I changed the oil and filter on my at 50,000 and as stated have had no problems whatsoever .
It IS a real CVT as it is driven by belt and pulleys and the 6 'gears' are virtual, and optional. If one wants to use the 'gears' instead of the 'smoothie' just pulls the gear lever selector to the left.
everyone complaining about having a fast car and great acceleration from trans and not for cvt's. and thats fine. thats why most offer both tranys if you order the car. For those that want to constantly rev and takeoff and be rougher with the car than yeah a traditional trany works best, even though a manual is superior to an automatic in that respect. But cvts aren't usually made for high wear and acceleration. if you are reving to 2000 and holiding it till you get to speed, which is slower yes, you will have a good long life with the cvt using it like it was meant to. all yall arguing over which is better. neither, they are different
Cvt is good for maintaining peak engine efficiency at continuous speed. Automatics last longest when shifted hard with minimal slippage. Manuals last longest when shifted gently. It's amazing to think that manuals are used for racing, automatics are made into slushomatics and CVT's are turned into a cross between automatic and manual.
Mohammad, CVT do not have a gear box transmission, a six speed CVT makes no sense, CVT uses varying pulley ratios to create a final drive, not gears. There are no "speeds / gears" in CVTs CVT means continuously Variable Transmission, there are no preset gear /ratios.
The Day that they install a kevlar belts i might try one in the mean time i have to agree with the people that have or had problems with this transmission....
I am surprised to see that Toyota/AISIN use a push belt type of CVT, but they must have a far better design than the Nissan/JATCO push belt CVT with its terrible reliability record. The most reliable CVT's, such as Subaru/Fuji, use pull chain type of CVT (their chain is sourced from LuK, in Germany). Good luck to Toyota, I have little doubt they have designed a reliable unit, that's what they do.
Keith Allsop, please explain the Subara CVT system. You call it a chain? Don't chains run on sprockets? How do they manage a variable gear sprocket, or does it have a derailleur like my 10-speed Schwinn bicycle?
The 2 injection types should keep the intake valves clean & keep (, expensive to clean ) carbon off the intake valves., meaning the car won't suffer power loss & expensive repairs just beyond the warranty.
It would help if you got your facts straight. The manual transmission is a 6-speed and the Direct Shift-CVT (K120) simulates 10-speed Sequential Shiftmatic steps.
This is another step toward single use vehicles and having no value after 5 years. I had a remarkable run with my Camry with a conventional gearbox and did look to buy a new Toyota but did not buy because of the CVT gearbox. We had a CVT in our Honda and it did suffer vibration and needed constant high cost servicing using special oil. I bought a VW Tiguan instead and although it does have an unusual gearbox, I believe it is more durable than a CVT. Sorry guys, I am certainly NOT convinced there is any value in these.
2.0l hybrid sounds powerful and 40+% of the engine is good. The classic is like 30%. But I think main thing for us and Japan philosophy is rear electrical wheels motors. Now there will be no space required by 4wd it the passengers zone, only 1 or 2 cables. So we could have wide seats again, big and wide storage room, 3x3 seats. And all of this will be without missing 4wd. And the main thing is the low gravity center and much more safety.
@@the_hdot racers are also complete idiots at engineering. They still think that 20w-50 oil is needed and don't understand that thicker oil does not protect an engine any better. They will fight this to the death...
Gibbon automatics are less likely to fail my fellow sir unless you buy certain cars with just poor transmissions. You can grind gears in a manual with generates greater friction which is less likely in a automatic. With automatic transmission advancements, they are easier and more reliable than manuals. But when automatics do fail, they are a lot more expensive.
Gibbon I completely understand. Here in America, manuals are still slightly cheaper, but very rare in cars nowadays. Automatics are relatively standard here now, and operate great, especially with the traffic in the area I live in. If I was driving longer distances and had less traffic, I would probably opt for a manual as well 😀
direct drive from start and automatic gearbox feeling shifts. like many other cvt cars and engine is not evolving enough, only direct injection and longer stroke. Hyundai kappa 3 1.6 engine features many more changes to improve eco . but toyota is doing still very good stuff
Kappa has timing chains issues and the direct injection in most cars leads to carbon buildup in the cylinder which then needs to be flushed with a fuel additive or else you won't get decent fuel efficiency
I did no find any big topics of timing chain problems. And those i find. Was reason of bad tensioner. And thats is common of almoust every car at somepoint
Notice the CVT vane pump works in intervals like a gear is shifting (0.50). There is No need for this. It is to give an illusion like you are going faster by gears shifting. Like they said an "Exhilarating sense of acceleration"
I still like manual transmission. Just my take, Just would like to see if there are any other improvements that can be made to it. but yes seems CVT has really improve over the years.
Why use an electric water pump? Would it make sense to have the water pump mechanically connected to the crankshaft just like the camshafts, alternator, AC compressor, steering fluid pump, etc. Electric motors work great but have short lifespans, especially when exposed to fluctuating temperates from the engine block and the external elements/weather conditions.
because water pump dont need always the same flow as engine rpm... sometimes is better an higher flow, sometimes is better a slower flow for save energy
Okay this is how I see it when you lay into it w.o.t full throttle that the CVT doesn't try to shift and acts like a real CVT should otherwise it would be a slow turd trying to shift through fake gears, CVT transmissions are faster than manual or automatic transmissions if tuned right and since this uses a pump to control when it shifts it should have a race mode or regular CVT mode to keep it at the RPM that the engine makes the most torque for the fastest acceleration. The only thing I see it is good for is cruising to put you in a taller ratio for lower RPMs to get better MPG and if it shifts at w.o.t full throttle then it's a complete waste.
I HURD A LOT of bad stuff about cvt transmissions the trany shop guy told me not to buy a car with one toyta I think makes the best cars . I was thinking about buying a corolla but the 2018 ones have cvt trans now I don't know
This is the same variable speed belt gearbox use currently in Can Am and unfortunately they dont last that long. They now carry a spare belt everytime they go out bush.
Toyota would not use a design that wasn't reliable. Reliability is their hallmark. I'm confident they've found an engineering solution that Can Am hasn't.
I highly doubt this is the same as in the Can Am. Similar principal maybe but definitely not the same. You can’t replace a belt on these out in the bush.
They're simulated gears that replicate feel of a traditional 6 speed automatic, without actually having 6 fixed gears. You can engage the simulated gears my shifting the gear lever into manual mode (left of drive I think). Most people wont do this and will just keep the car in 'D' most of the time, in which case the car will feel like a traditional CVT (no simulated gear changes and linear power)
If only Toyota would put their might into performance CVT's...but it seems the trend of government oversight and world energy use is heading towards fuel efficiency and economy
The correct description is that this gearbox is a CVT that mimics a 6 speed ratio by letting the driver choose (in manual mode) 6 different positions of CVT's pulleys. But, this is to difficult to explain and especially to advert. And also, most of the buyers aren't technical / car people so they don't care about how it works, they only care about going from A to B.
How much fuel does this complicated system actually save? Can you get 100 MPG using this? Remember that fuel cost is a relatively small part of the total ownership cost for an average car owner.
6 spee cvt?!?! CVT means there are no specific gears though. I hope this doesnt mean they are faking gears and completely eliminating the benefit of a cvt system in the first place whilst having all of the cons.
My choice is CVT. It is very practical. My Nissan Altima, 2007 with 280 k is ok. 9.5 l 100km city only. The transmission is predicted. I changed 2 time CVT fluid partially. Before the CVT I drove manual transmission.
All the drive transmission through a flimsy belt and this is one of the better CVT's! I do wish manufacturers would pull away from this garbage idea. The only people it benefits are the manufacturers as it is cheap to produce.
I want a CVT for better MPG...but I also want to have "simulated" gear shifts...to negate the small added efficiency of the CVT. That's just silly. I don't know what's worse, CVT's or trucks and SUV's with 7, 8 or even 10 speed automatics.
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Alpha SQUAD official in which car this engine will be used?
opoja5e Not confirmed yet but it could possibly be any of these cars or maybe Toyota is going to lunch a few new models:
1. Toyota Corolla
2. Toyota Hilux
3. Toyota GT 86
4. Toyota Camry
5. Toyota Auris
6. Toyota RAV4
7. Toyota Verso
8. Toyota Innova
9. Toyota Celica (Relaunch maybe)
10. Toyota Harrier
11. Toyota Wish
12. Toyota Mark 2 (Relaunch maybe)
13. Toyota MR2 (Relaunch maybe)
14. Toyota Picnic
Alpha SQUAD official Ah nice. Thank you
of course they are all toyotas
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Toyota makes the best cars, hands down, no questions asked or answered.
Septimius Severus I drove one it sucked
Septimius Severus you have got absolutely right! Military class reliability and durability on the civilian market! TOYOTA and Lexus cars are the best! There are no substitutes!
So who made the Verso diesel engine and the new supra
Suhel Sheth So who made the best Diesel engines in the whole planet (Land Cruisers, Hiluxes, Tundra, Sequoias, etc) and the most sophisticated sports car ever - the Lexus LFA (very first car made from carbon fibers!!!)
By the way. BMW is not as excellent as TOYOTA brand but it is still good! Outsourcing and cooperation with BMW is no shame for TOYOTA. And we have to remember that new GR (German?) Supra is better car in every aspect than Z4 thanks to extraordinary platform and chassis engineered by TOYOTA.
@@karlballistator when Toyota make it then I got no issues but when they think it's a good idea to get others involved then you Toyota lover get up set just like me ... I have a toyota Rav4 tx3 D4D engine is still running solid
Just bought one. Old one (1.8ltr Corolla) also had CVT. This 2-litre seems to have a fixed first gear, then into CVT as you accelerate. I loved the old one - it was sooo smooth. The new one is more... clunky, away from stopped, with the fixed first gear. 5.9 litres per 100kms on a recent trip. 1400RPM at steady 100kph on flat ground. With only 1600 kms on the clock , it is early days.
very smart engineering good job. Japan always coming with new innovations...
CVTs having a comeback to mainstream is great. I really think that this is a huge hit if improved and implemented properly, seeing it being banned in F1 because it was wrecking other cars is a huge technological cockblock in history.
Once you "get the feel of it", the modern generation CVT is just great to drive. Simple, reliable and lasts forever.
I have two friends, one with a BMW, the other with a Passat. The BMW's first gear dont work, the 2 year old Passat's DCG has been to repair for 5 weeks. "Advanced" transmissions like DCG are prone to fail and are very expensive to repair.
Since nobody listens or understands this transmission and everybody posts about how bad CVT's try and understand what they are trying to achieve. This CVT can step through the belt positions with the vane pump and has a low speed gear that allows the engine to start and rev up to get into it's power RPM range by over speeding the Drive "pulley" to engage the transmission quicker. They are fixing the CVT lag, and trying to get more torque to the ground faster.
CVT's are still rubber band heaps of junk that break, have less power and produce the most awful droning sound on earth. I'll stick to my manual transmission thanks.
Trying is not enough. Sure the load is removed upon take offs with with the addition of first gear, but once driving and want to go faster quickly stepping on the gas will cause a hi load and cause failure. There's a good reason they are not adding cvts on larger vehicles.
Key word trying. Quit beating a dead horse. The CVT needs to be dead already. Do those that haven’t bought a car with one only to fail just out of warranty and no repair shops will touch it. You can’t speak.
Just to throw this out there... Not all CVT's have belts.
@@samsonitejones4012 very true. Chain, belt no matter what they are still way to expensive to rebuild and maintain. $30 to $50 a quart for the fluid.
The CVT is actually a very smooth driving experience compared to other 4cyl engines especially Toyotas CVT you do not get that jerking of gears while accelerating like you would with other geared 1-2L four-cylinder engines. Toyota knows how to make a cvt that last.
Agree. I am still driving an 11 year old corolla with CVT mated to 2.0L. With fluid maintenance, hoping for many more years to come.
Ultimate triumph of technology!!!
Incredibly high level of Japanese engineering... Now every TOYOTA (Prius, Auris, CHR, etc.) with that 2.0 HSD power train and TNGA architecture will became one of the best and fastest vehicles on the roads... This 2.0 HSD system will be real game changer in European motor industry. Fast. Efficient. And with legendary TOYOTA’s reliability!!!
:joy:
No it won't people don't want a rubber band transmission that drones. We'll stick to manuals thanks.
and then You woke up.
Gravemind in a TOYOTA Way there are no rubber bands... It is steel band! You have to learn how tough a TOYOTA cars are. Other manufacturers make a consumer class cars. Only TOYOTA is making a military class cars (Land Cruiser, Hilux, etc.) Its unbreakable warrior spirit we have even in the smallest city cars made by TOYOTA. There are no substitutes on the market!
@@karlballistator lc twin turbo : "Allow me to introduce myself"
They just recalled about 3400 of these on the 2019 Corolla Hatchback...luckily I bought the manual....
luclkily i bought the prius. It has zero problems.
DAMN the CVT to hell!!
6-speed continuously variable transmission 😄
I've read that Toyota responded to drivers' dislike of 'constant revs' (I think), and programmed the computers to make the CVT appear to go through gears, whilst still within a narrow 'optimal' rev band.
Struck me as an oxymoron too. :)
Toyota conform to stupidity
That was my comment! )))
Mini Has had this for years. My 07 Cooper has a CVT that has the "Steptronic" shifting that allows for 6 "Manual" gears. When put back into regular Overdrive it gains an extra ratio that allows for lower rps and better fuel economy.
Stunning graphic work
My worry is that you'll only be able to get CVT type automatics on any car in the future. So far, these type transmissions seem to be laden with issues. Also, transmission problems are usually very expensive to fix.
Most issues occur because of owner neglect. Staying dilligent with CVT OEM FLUID changes @ 30k miles and filter changes @ 60k goes a long way.
That's what I call engineering pornography!!!!!
Toyota there is no other like it in the world .
My own car here in the U. S. of A. is a 2004 Mazda 3 with the 5-speed manual transmission. But recently, when I was in New Zealand, I rented a Toyauto Corolla with the CVT. In general it performed quite well, but there were things I didn't like about it.
In the mountains I needed quick response so I usually put it into sport mode via a button on the center console. Unfortunately the button was hard to find without taking my eyes off of the rode. However, by increasing the minimum engine speed it did improve response.
For some reason Toyauto apparently felt that they had to make the CVT imitate a stepped transmission so when pushing the car hard, it would imitate an upshift; one could hear the engine speed drop somewhat.
Two suggestions for improvement: Find a way for the driver to select sport mode without having to find a little button, and do not imitate a stepped transmission by simulating gear shifts!
I'm still impressed that i basically came up with the same idea in 4th grade. It's a shame that creative spirit has yet to be revived in me now...
You were thinking about how to create are cvt transmission in 4th grade? What are you some mechanical prodigy?
If CVT's technically have unlimited gears why do they give them gear profiles?
Because the feel of no gears being changed is borning for most people so they have to give it a better feel
I hate that too. I've driven stick shift all my life and just got the new turbo CRV with a very nice CVT, but it does the fake upshifts because that's what the public needs to feel "familiar". CVTs offer unlimited gear ratios for smooth efficient linear acceleration. If I wanted to feel upshifts I'd go back to driving stick.
@Tim Monahan Ironically, when the first auto-slush boxes came out companies touted how many gears their cars had and how smooth the shifts were. CVTs make all of that moot, but so many need to feel the RPMs coincide with up-shifts... I still have an old Vtec Prelude SH where I can happily row the gears, but I'm very happy with today's CVTs as well.
William Su this isn’t a real cvt a real cvt is for when you have more than 8 or so possible gear ratios and instead of making a 10 speed automatic since it’s there’s so many moving parts that’s where cvt steps in
well i think the point of cvt was to remove those gear shift delays + rev down for smooth gear up while maintaining a high rev. then here are the smart toyota engineers, bringing them back on a cvt reducing the efficiency just because customers doesnt "feel" good about normal cvt.
Mitsubishi had a '5 speed' CVT in 2001. It's obvious that CVT solenoids hold the belt in 6 positions to give the effect of gears.
On 21st Feb took delivery of a new car. Road tests before purchase included two CVT cars, a DSG and several manuals. I also drove the same model of car with a DSG and manual box. Didn’t like either of the CVT cars and decided on the DSG (free 5yr extended warranty). Since taking collection, it has converted me from manual cars.
my lancer has a cvt and that thing picks up quickly always the right amount of response
I support toyotas, they build such good cars
Serge Whatever I own a civic too, and they both drive the same. It just toyota is a bit boring. You have to consider the tires you drove the cars with and how they are. Anyways Hondas nowadays are damn crap, they dont make them reliable anymore, Toyota all the way baby.
Give constructive criticism, why is Honda crap ?
Harvey Millar cvts and poor ergonomics . In global version the interior is boring in black and gray
Harvey Millar They are crap because of the many problems they have like CVT transmission not working correctly, then failing. And many other stuff if you research online reviews. Hondas have fell behind considering reliability. The only top 2 is Lexus and Second is toyota. I know toyota makes lexus. But anyways I just wanted to clarify that you can never go wrong with Toyota, since it makes one of the most reliable cars on the planet. I own a 2001 corolla and my dad had the car for 8 years and never changed the oil, I changed it last year and still drives like new, and does not eat oil at all. I am serious man, Toyotas are solid made cars like literally tanks.
CVTs should be avoided as they give problems with Nissan being the worst. Honda lays it's reliable controls and gauges out well, most car buyers look for safety, fuel efficiency, good resale and are not bothered by grey and black interiors which are sensible. We have 2 Honda Civics, one with 250K the other with 160K, both trouble free.
I only hope its reliable.
Bc fixing it might be very expensive.
Closed system, i doubt it'll break.. have anyone heard of any issues with the Toyota eCVT ? ?
Amazing graphics and animation work
Вариатор с шестеренчатой передачей для трогания с места это действительно хорошая идея.
The title of the video shows your misunderstanding about CVT gearing principle. In CVTs gear ratio is continuously varied. No discrete values such as 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, or 6 for the gearing ratio and torque ratio.
I'm all about having a CVT. Forget fuel efficiency; I just enjoy not having gear changes. Toyota makes extremely reliable CVTs, too, so it's a win-win.
The problem CVT have is their maximum torque rating, which is in general low compared to classic manual/auto trans.
Yeah, I totally respect that is a major problem for performance cars. For my daily driver with 120 hp, though, it's perfectly pleasant.
I hate cvts most lethargic driving experience ever
Ram Runner If you want performance cars, CVTs are way to go but it is banned in Formula 1 races due to its insane performance and lap times.
3dr14n G haha that’s comical bud! Every cvt I have ever driven was significantly slower then its automatic/manual counterparts! Il take a zf 8 speed auto any day of the week!
This better goes as fast backwards as it goes forwards, or it isn't a real CVT.
DAF Power!!! :D
Subaru CVTs are smaller, and provide low end torque than a belt cvt. Subaru's CVTs are chains that wear much slower than the conventional belt and can flex into smaller diameters around the pulleys. Most people who buy a car with a cvt transmission want good fuel efficiency, but you need to know what kind of CVT your make and model has and if the vehicle itself is reliable. My 2012 Subaru Outback 2.5i with the Lineartronic CVT has reached 125 mph, and has 135k miles. I live in northern Wisconsin, so i need a good awd system and Subaru's symmetrical awd has proven to be worthy of this weather and the CVT doesn't suck much power away from the boxer 4. Today it snowed about 1 foot and the Subaru plowed right through the roads. But having 30 degree weather for a week with more snow on the way is not fun in April. The CVT has its pro's and con's, but it works for my family.
TOYOTA great car ! I love Toyota.
I think they got that wrong this time.. they should have put a sport and eco mode selector that changed the belt ratio to the max torque or max efficiency, but this...
In the description, i read striven. Never knew thats a word till now.
Ive heard strived.
Instead of focusing on how well the car accelerates, I see toyota is focusing on how the driver SENSES the acceleration. In plain English: it FEELS like it is accelerating quickly, but it is not necessarily doing so. To me, it seems like a more sensible idea to have a car that feels like it is NOT accelerating - maybe even feels like it is standing still, whilst it is actually accelerating quite quickly.
Yep, just like the North American C-HR.
My moped had that sort of variable diameter cone transmission. Ball bearings worked as a governor to push the cones together as the speed increased.
Cvt is good for scooter
I have Gilera GP 850, massive acceleration and top speed. I would not trade it for anything, pleasure to ride. CVT rules.
Cafe Racer cvt from scooter and for cars work in different way, on scooter pulley diameters depends by rotational inertia, on cars is controlled by ecu
Also good for snowmobile
And compact cars with tiny NA engines.
Nissan maxima 300hp cvt pretty fast
Lol such an epic soundtrack for a corolla engine
Electronic thermostat looks interesting also
My understanding from a lot of research is that Toyota builds their own CVT while Nissan uses a 3rd party (part of their high failure rate?) So far all the information out there gives the Toyota unit high marks. Nissan required changes starting with the 2017 that "appear" to have resolved or at least improved it. I have found very little negative information about the Honda units ......
But I thought toyota trans were made by aesen company i dont remember the correct name
Hey everyone from canada! Just got my first toyota was a honda person not anymore for many reasons. Just got a 22 corolla but got the 6 speed.manual, paired with the 2.0, newer dynamic force motor. Now i can get 91 octane for same price as 87 octane. Only really do city driving was wondering if there wld be any benefit what so ever or if it would be even worse to run the 87. Im a car guy and know a little but this is past my expertise.
Just rented one and it sometimes feels like its slipping or other times the wrong gear and overall not satisfying to drive. But I did like the active braking and lane keep, I could text much easier.
It's a rental...... Drive it like you stole it to race in a formula one race.
Toyota, the best of quality engines arround the world, move forward!!!!
A cvt transmition was produced 1940 in combine harvester
nice job!
Belt are problem after long mileage
I have 200,000+ miles on my Escape Hybrid with a CVT. It still runs like it's brand new. I've owned several brands of cars and I like different things about each of them, but the CVT has been the most effective at getting constant torque and has had zero issues or maintenance.
I have yet to see a lifetime belt!! If there is such a thing then why not make all timing belts with a lifetime belt!! Wear, tear & stretching of belt will need to be replaced and just like a timing belt job it’s always better to change other parts in there while you’re changing that timing/transmission belt which is more money to spend! It’s great moving forward with new ideas but again it will cost money to maintain. Before you have your timing belt to worry about soon you’ll have a transmission belt to worry about also.
Key word...." LONG milage"
@@rubiconnn CVT is a FAKE infinite torque, slips.
Electric car is the only real infinite torque and instant torque.
100% ELECTRIC CAR NEITHER CARRY CVT BOX NOR AUTOMATIC BOX TRANSMISSION .
CVT box and automatic box transmission will disappear with the arrival of electric car.
ELECTRIC CAR NOT NEEDS BOX TRANSMISSION.
@@familyhappy1293 The Escape Hybrid uses a real belt driven CVT and dual electric motors, unlike Toyota's hybrids which use planetary gears.
Damn, I should have paid attention while I was at Browning Power Transmission School. Still just a foreign language to me. Of course, in the hellish life I have lived my daughter is taking over now since she brought home a 2019 Toyota SE Corolla with none other than this 6 speed, continuously variable transmission. Hell, even I know this is smoke and shitty mirrors. I took a course in that too.
So ,, when to change that “ advanced high efficiency “ belt that located INSIDE the transmission!?
Dit was de uitvinding van onze DAF ( de van Doorn Automobiel Fabriek ) die zijn octrooirechten heeft verkocht aan verschillende autofabrikanten. Goed systeem voor een automaat. Deze mocht niet in de racerij ( F1) worden gebruikt!! 👍 . De schakelband was eerst een gewone V-snaar, geëvalueerde stalen schakelband.
Toyota has already got the electrical engineering tech to make highly reliable electric cars with excellent quality control measures, but they aren't rushing into EV's till they meet their reliability standards.
The belt type CVT is crap!
I had a 2018 Prius C and after getting up to highway cruising speed, as long as the load change was mild, it was ok.
The problem is when you're cruising along and, for one reason or another, you have to let off the throttle completely and then get back into it.
The engine screams like it isn't connected to anything while the vehicle continues to decelerate slowly!
If you let off the throttle and begin to slowly increase the throttle, then it MIGHT grab and continue driving the output.
I traded the 2018 Prius C for a 2021 Corolla only to find a similar problem!
Going over mildly hilly roads about 40 mph with the cruise engaged, coming out of a valley, the engine accelerates to between 4000 and 5000 rpm while there is no drive fed to the output.
I'm thinking that metal plate belt is being driven by the driveline sheave and is "floating" around the driving sheave without engaging with the driving sheave.
I have had this happen multiple times at various speeds and find it very frustrating!
I'm curious how well the E-CVT in my 2023 Prius LE will perform.
dual direct and port injection for different engine loads? wow I have to trust Toyota engineers on this and wait and see. Increased Temperature control efficiency is also an important refinement for performance and fuel use. People always cry about change, but the best engineering always wins in the end. Many times consumers are actually crying about other things, when the engineers are simply solving problems within the constraints given to them by society and economics.
Just to balance this out, I have owned a CVT for 5 years , mileage 70,000 problems zero and it's an mg tf lol I believe it's the same gearbox used in the mini the difference been BMW state it's a seal unit and no change of oil required , I changed the oil and filter on my at 50,000 and as stated have had no problems whatsoever .
"6 speed CVT"
So if it's a 6 speed, then it's not really CVT, it's just a belt driven 6 speed...
6 simulated gears,better?
It IS a real CVT as it is driven by belt and pulleys and the 6 'gears' are virtual, and optional. If one wants to use the 'gears' instead of the 'smoothie' just pulls the gear lever selector to the left.
what happends if u connect a tesla motor with toyota's CVT system?
it can solve the '' one gear'' problem of an electric motor? lower consumption ?
everyone complaining about having a fast car and great acceleration from trans and not for cvt's. and thats fine. thats why most offer both tranys if you order the car. For those that want to constantly rev and takeoff and be rougher with the car than yeah a traditional trany works best, even though a manual is superior to an automatic in that respect. But cvts aren't usually made for high wear and acceleration. if you are reving to 2000 and holiding it till you get to speed, which is slower yes, you will have a good long life with the cvt using it like it was meant to. all yall arguing over which is better. neither, they are different
Cvt is good for maintaining peak engine efficiency at continuous speed. Automatics last longest when shifted hard with minimal slippage. Manuals last longest when shifted gently. It's amazing to think that manuals are used for racing, automatics are made into slushomatics and CVT's are turned into a cross between automatic and manual.
Toyota is the best in reliability
Is this oxymoron? It's six speed or it's CVT, Jeep tried to pull this stunt, said it was six speed auto stick, just another sluggish CVT.
i have a 14 corolla the cvt is sluggish in the first two gears but on the third it is a very pleasant response.
Mohammad that's why they add a real gear into the new cvt, so at low speed isn't sluggish anymore
Jeep quality is 1/10th that of Toyota.
Mohammad,
CVT do not have a gear box transmission, a six speed CVT makes no sense,
CVT uses varying pulley ratios to create a final drive, not gears.
There are no "speeds / gears" in CVTs
CVT means continuously Variable Transmission, there are no preset gear /ratios.
They fake it because people dont like cvts!
New technology means recall for defects. Will be perfected in its second generation.
The Day that they install a kevlar belts i might try one in the mean time i have to agree with the people that have or had problems with this transmission....
CVT uses a steel belt. They last forever.
Kevlar stopped being used in bow strings because it breaks
I am surprised to see that Toyota/AISIN use a push belt type of CVT, but they must have a far better design than the Nissan/JATCO push belt CVT with its terrible reliability record. The most reliable CVT's, such as Subaru/Fuji, use pull chain type of CVT (their chain is sourced from LuK, in Germany). Good luck to Toyota, I have little doubt they have designed a reliable unit, that's what they do.
Keith Allsop, please explain the Subara CVT system. You call it a chain? Don't chains run on sprockets? How do they manage a variable gear sprocket, or does it have a derailleur like my 10-speed Schwinn bicycle?
Rev up your engines
Only Mr.Kilmer say that!
Hi Scotty
*ear rape tire skidding noise*
Cant even tire spin on rain wet road day in my 2017 corolla 😕 its pretty broing but great fuel economy as my daily
do that and you'll blow this belt driven gear box to smithereens
The 2 injection types should keep the intake valves clean & keep (, expensive to clean ) carbon off the intake valves., meaning the car won't suffer power loss & expensive repairs just beyond the warranty.
Pleasant linear sense of acceleration? Why do most manufacturers think that's what we want?
It would help if you got your facts straight. The manual transmission is a 6-speed and the Direct Shift-CVT (K120) simulates 10-speed Sequential Shiftmatic steps.
This is another step toward single use vehicles and having no value after 5 years. I had a remarkable run with my Camry with a conventional gearbox and did look to buy a new Toyota but did not buy because of the CVT gearbox. We had a CVT in our Honda and it did suffer vibration and needed constant high cost servicing using special oil. I bought a VW Tiguan instead and although it does have an unusual gearbox, I believe it is more durable than a CVT. Sorry guys, I am certainly NOT convinced there is any value in these.
2.0l hybrid sounds powerful and 40+% of the engine is good. The classic is like 30%.
But I think main thing for us and Japan philosophy is rear electrical wheels motors.
Now there will be no space required by 4wd it the passengers zone, only 1 or 2 cables. So we could have wide seats again, big and wide storage room, 3x3 seats. And all of this will be without missing 4wd. And the main thing is the low gravity center and much more safety.
My 2007 Camry Hybrid has over 300K Kim’s. Still drives like new and gets under 5.7L/100 km in the city in summer.
Man look if you dont want s CVT, then dont buy one. Yall act like yall driving on the track 24/7 where that gearing feel and experience is needed.
this is the video so all of us can vote to the future of cvt dont u know:) i think racers get annoyed pretty quick
@@the_hdot racers are also complete idiots at engineering. They still think that 20w-50 oil is needed and don't understand that thicker oil does not protect an engine any better. They will fight this to the death...
Gibbon automatics are less likely to fail my fellow sir unless you buy certain cars with just poor transmissions. You can grind gears in a manual with generates greater friction which is less likely in a automatic. With automatic transmission advancements, they are easier and more reliable than manuals. But when automatics do fail, they are a lot more expensive.
Gibbon I completely understand. Here in America, manuals are still slightly cheaper, but very rare in cars nowadays. Automatics are relatively standard here now, and operate great, especially with the traffic in the area I live in. If I was driving longer distances and had less traffic, I would probably opt for a manual as well 😀
We aren't going to have a choice! Every car is going to have them eventually because they can eke out a miniscule better mpg.
so what is the point of cvt if you have only 6 possible positions.
what the fuck is a 6 speed cvt, they don't shift
nate salemno They simulate the feel. I know it’s weird.
direct drive from start and automatic gearbox feeling shifts. like many other cvt cars and engine is not evolving enough, only direct injection and longer stroke. Hyundai kappa 3 1.6 engine features many more changes to improve eco . but toyota is doing still very good stuff
Kappa has timing chains issues and the direct injection in most cars leads to carbon buildup in the cylinder which then needs to be flushed with a fuel additive or else you won't get decent fuel efficiency
I did no find any big topics of timing chain problems. And those i find. Was reason of bad tensioner. And thats is common of almoust every car at somepoint
Notice the CVT vane pump works in intervals like a gear is shifting (0.50). There is No need for this. It is to give an illusion like you are going faster by gears shifting. Like they said an "Exhilarating sense of acceleration"
great information keep it up
I still like manual transmission. Just my take, Just would like to see if there are any other improvements that can be made to it. but yes seems CVT has really improve over the years.
Why do i feel like I just saw a batman movie trailer
Why use an electric water pump? Would it make sense to have the water pump mechanically connected to the crankshaft just like the camshafts, alternator, AC compressor, steering fluid pump, etc. Electric motors work great but have short lifespans, especially when exposed to fluctuating temperates from the engine block and the external elements/weather conditions.
David Lam uh ok
They use electric power steering now too.
because water pump dont need always the same flow as engine rpm...
sometimes is better an higher flow, sometimes is better a slower flow for save energy
Electric is less of a parasitic draw on the engine. It's all for fuel economy.
CVT is the way to live in searching for the parts
This is a wet clutch or dry?
ya tengo uno..ahora habra que probarlo....un poco alto el valor..pero ahi veremos si es como lo pintan ..saludos desde chile..
Esperemos que Toyota haga su magia con estos sistemas, porque en otras marcas funcionan a medias no mas.
My snowmobile had that 30 years ago.
Okay this is how I see it when you lay into it w.o.t full throttle that the CVT doesn't try to shift and acts like a real CVT should otherwise it would be a slow turd trying to shift through fake gears, CVT transmissions are faster than manual or automatic transmissions if tuned right and since this uses a pump to control when it shifts it should have a race mode or regular CVT mode to keep it at the RPM that the engine makes the most torque for the fastest acceleration. The only thing I see it is good for is cruising to put you in a taller ratio for lower RPMs to get better MPG and if it shifts at w.o.t full throttle then it's a complete waste.
CVTs don't have speeds, the 6-speed refers to a normal manual tranny mentioned later in the article.
I LOVE TOYOTA !!!!!!!!!!!!!
I HURD A LOT of bad stuff about cvt transmissions the trany shop guy told me not to buy a car with one toyta I think makes the best cars . I was thinking about buying a corolla but the 2018 ones have cvt trans now I don't know
This is the same variable speed belt gearbox use currently in Can Am and unfortunately they dont last that long. They now carry a spare belt everytime they go out bush.
Toyota would not use a design that wasn't reliable. Reliability is their hallmark. I'm confident they've found an engineering solution that Can Am hasn't.
I highly doubt this is the same as in the Can Am. Similar principal maybe but definitely not the same. You can’t replace a belt on these out in the bush.
Will this last longer than the NADM 2018/19 C-HR transmission? Seeing several reports of failed eCVT.
Isn't 6-speed CVT a contradiction in terms? It has an infinite number of speeds or it isn't a CVT.
They're simulated gears that replicate feel of a traditional 6 speed automatic, without actually having 6 fixed gears. You can engage the simulated gears my shifting the gear lever into manual mode (left of drive I think). Most people wont do this and will just keep the car in 'D' most of the time, in which case the car will feel like a traditional CVT (no simulated gear changes and linear power)
If only Toyota would put their might into performance CVT's...but it seems the trend of government oversight and world energy use is heading towards fuel efficiency and economy
"6 Speed CVT Transmission" is an oxymoron. Either it has discrete gears (speeds) or it's continuously variable. Any combination is not a CVT.
The correct description is that this gearbox is a CVT that mimics a 6 speed ratio by letting the driver choose (in manual mode) 6 different positions of CVT's pulleys. But, this is to difficult to explain and especially to advert. And also, most of the buyers aren't technical / car people so they don't care about how it works, they only care about going from A to B.
Sorry no pulleys in this gearbox
the first two gears are normal the rest is cvt
@@SimonWoodburyForget that control that you are talking about is called a throttle.
It's 6 programed gears.
all that hullabaloo high tech, just to 'simulate' my now-old-school 5 speed manual
In fact all that hullaballoo is to accommodate old fogeys who cannot come to terms with anything not functioning and FEELING like 1952 Fiat 1100s.
very good
How much fuel does this complicated system actually save? Can you get 100 MPG using this? Remember that fuel cost is a relatively small part of the total ownership cost for an average car owner.
TOYOTA POWER !!!!
Toyota's have no power :P
6 spee cvt?!?! CVT means there are no specific gears though. I hope this doesnt mean they are faking gears and completely eliminating the benefit of a cvt system in the first place whilst having all of the cons.
Why Toyota make good cvt transmission and not like other cars? Nissan and Subaru are one of the worst cvt transmission I experienced in my life?
My choice is CVT. It is very practical. My Nissan Altima, 2007 with 280 k is ok. 9.5 l 100km city only. The transmission is predicted. I changed 2 time CVT fluid partially.
Before the CVT I drove manual transmission.
agree, you will never look back once you had CVT's
@@thepoorprince3494 yea maybe im weird but cvts not having gear looked appealing to me
All the drive transmission through a flimsy belt and this is one of the better CVT's! I do wish manufacturers would pull away from this garbage idea. The only people it benefits are the manufacturers as it is cheap to produce.
I want a CVT for better MPG...but I also want to have "simulated" gear shifts...to negate the small added efficiency of the CVT. That's just silly. I don't know what's worse, CVT's or trucks and SUV's with 7, 8 or even 10 speed automatics.
I love CVT. Very fuel efficient and smooth acceleration. The only transmission that's better than manual is CVT.
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DroidTech actually cvt is the most efficient way to transmit power from engine to wheel. Check it out in Engineering Explained channel
East or west toyota is best ,,,