I don't know what chart you looked at but when hardened properly to specs, Magna Cut far out last s45v in edge retention. When it first came out, and still to today, many manufacturers/makers are running Magna Cut at 58-60 HRc. It is designed to be run at HRc 63-64 and when this is done, it far exceeds s45v. Remember, s30v was replaced by CRK because it was a little chippy. (when improperly used) so they heat treated it at a low number. The replacement was s35v which did not have the edge retention of s30v. That and they ran it low in hardness as well. . Many complained at the lack of performance. They switched to s45v and ran it a little harder to help with the issue, however it still did not equal the edge retention of the original s30v. None of these are capable of matching Magna Cut in edge holding when properly heat treated and as a bonus is much tougher. KnifeMaker/retired with over 47 years in the business.
Yeah, but sadly it’s rare to get good magnacut at 63-64. As far as playing the odds, S45VN might be a safer bet in some instances. But yeah you’re right, when magnacut is done properly it kicks ass! I’m blown away by the magnacut on my Roosevelt
I just got me a PJ magnacut Seb 31 large - so happy with it. I've used my small Seb31 inlay w/magnacut as EDC for a year and it has been a beast of a blade. Cuts and cuts and comes back just as you show here on my suede strop loaded w/white bark river chalk to razor edge. My other 120 knives have been sidelined by this magnacut small seb so I got the large to see if I can give the small a rest. MAGNACUT FOR THE WIN.
Glad you’re pleased! I can’t tell the difference from S45VN or Magnacut, even with some extreme use, you’ll never know the difference. Premium metals these days are awesome… 😊
Lovely choice. I got both the large and small sebenza 31 in magnacut, matching macassar ebony inlays. I alternate them for EDC sometimes, but normally I carry both.
Not big on the inlays but man it is such a clean design overall. I love the hump in the blade over the thumb stud. The design language is just a homerun...
The factory Sebenza edge is convex. It will get thinner BTE and more slicey as you sharpen it. If you run your finger and thumb down the hollow towards the edge you can feel it gets slightly thicker just before the edge bevel.
Dood, MagnaCut also gives really nice toughness and the heat treat on the CRKs is supposed to be top notch, I don’t think it’s a bad deal at all to get at the same price as the S45VN
Nice review! Really comprehensive and informative man. Do you prefer the micarta over the wood inlays and PJ options? Why did you choose this variation?
@@doodysdaggers got cha. I actually just watched your video about selling your 31 right after this 😂. I have a pj 31 and I do feel the smallest bit of lock rock on it. I’m surprised I never noticed it before. It’s one of those things that will most likely go unnoticed unless someone mentions it. Idk how I feel about it now
A nice new addition to the colleccion’ 👍. I like using a wharncliffe blade a lot too . Anything with a lower tip really . Definitely not a tip pointing to the moon tho .
The sentiment for not enjoying carrying knives that don’t slice well I share. I had tried to give the XM-18 some chances; eventually leading from a regular spearpoint one to the a skinny slicer grind one. And even the skinny slicer XM-18 had trouble cutting through the most pedestrian of things. Sold it and don’t think I’ll give any of em another chance. I know this is a CRK video but I had to mention this since the Xm-18 and Sebenza are usually brought up in the conversation of great American knives.
I felt the same way about the XM18. But I love the knife! So I sent it to BGM Knives to get reground. He did an amazing job, but a nice hollow grind on it. So that’s always an option if you love the knife but wish it was slicier
CastleGate is a good shop, live nearby and they’re great in person. They’re often overlooked despite being an authorized dealer. One of the only places that regularly has plain janes in stock.
LMAO😂😅 Dood u used your sh#t, so glad your happy with it after dropping that amount of $ , I would have been so let down n disappointed if my grail knife didn't live up to my expectations. Congrats brother keep on keeping on .
Mine, (Sebenza 31 Magnacut, Macassar Ebony, Drop point), wasn't sharp when I got it new....(it would slice 'puter paper, but that was it), so I put a 20 Degree edge on it With the new Worksharp Pro Precision Adjust machine, and HOLY CRAPPAGE ! it will now easily slice phonebook paper, and shave your arm dry.....Huge Difference.....went to 800 grit, then a few strokes with the Ceramic on each side, (4-5), then stropped it LIGHTLY, (3-4 strokes), each side and it's Literally RAZOR sharp !......OnWard.......
That sounds amazing! I’m tempted to put mine on my Worksharp too, I just didn’t want to waste steel. But I think I will. It’s got an awesome sharpening choil so it’ll be fine
Besides Spyderco, CRK does the best factory edges in the business in my experience. Their convex edge is nasty and will hold for a long time in either S45VN or MC. Just picked up a large Insingo in MC and it may be my favorite model from them, especially the large with the Insingo. Congrats on the blade!
@@doodysdaggers definitely, and when you send it in for a spa treatment you can have them re-establish the convex grind if you want, I have a hard time sharpening convex so I had them re-establish mine and it was just like new!
I’ve carried a large plain Jane 21 s35vn drop point for the past 11 years. Just finally sold it and switched to a large 31 tanto carbon fiber Magnacut. Edge retention I don’t notice a lock of a difference. But it’s an ounce lighter and won’t corrode on the salt water. Not a huge fan of the ceramic ball lock interface but so far it’s good. I would prefer the 21s lock interface.
Oh really? Okay that would be the best option. I’m going to try a leather lanyard and see if I like it. I also don’t really want just a hole right there. Thanks dood 🤘
The tiniest drop of grease stops the rattling. I didn’t even take mine apart. Just a little grease on a pin point and gently pushed it in and the rattling stopped. Be even easier to get that grease in if you had it apart though.
Thanks for responding! I have a large Sebenza in magnacut with black micarta Inlays in my cart right now, but hesitant to pull the trigger @ $600? I love my new TRM Atom in textured Ti scales that has not left my pocket for the last 4 weeks since getting it. I don't use my knives like you do everyday. I'm mostly a light user. But the knife collector in me really wants this CRK Sebenza in magnacut!!! Please Help Dood!!
@@BDevi0us there will be many more releases of the Sebenza in magnacut for sure. They do sell out fast though, but if you’re up on the drops you should be able to get one. I’m not positive on what inlay they’ll be though
I don't know what chart you looked at but when hardened properly to specs, Magna Cut far out last s45v in edge retention.
When it first came out, and still to today, many manufacturers/makers are running Magna Cut at 58-60 HRc. It is designed to be run at HRc 63-64 and when this is done, it far exceeds s45v.
Remember, s30v was replaced by CRK because it was a little chippy. (when improperly used) so they heat treated it at a low number. The replacement was s35v which did not have the edge retention of s30v. That and they ran it low in hardness as well. . Many complained at the lack of performance. They switched to s45v and ran it a little harder to help with the issue, however it still did not equal the edge retention of the original s30v. None of these are capable of matching Magna Cut in edge holding when properly heat treated and as a bonus is much tougher.
KnifeMaker/retired with over 47 years in the business.
Yeah, but sadly it’s rare to get good magnacut at 63-64. As far as playing the odds, S45VN might be a safer bet in some instances.
But yeah you’re right, when magnacut is done properly it kicks ass! I’m blown away by the magnacut on my Roosevelt
@@doodysdaggers The magnacut on CRK is 63-64 HRC
Such a useful, balanced and practical review. No theatrics or BS. Thank you!
Please review more, really like your approach and energy
That is great to hear, thank you! I have a whole playlist of these cut tests 🤠
I just got me a PJ magnacut Seb 31 large - so happy with it. I've used my small Seb31 inlay w/magnacut as EDC for a year and it has been a beast of a blade. Cuts and cuts and comes back just as you show here on my suede strop loaded w/white bark river chalk to razor edge. My other 120 knives have been sidelined by this magnacut small seb so I got the large to see if I can give the small a rest. MAGNACUT FOR THE WIN.
Hell yeah man, nice!!
Glad you’re pleased! I can’t tell the difference from S45VN or Magnacut, even with some extreme use, you’ll never know the difference. Premium metals these days are awesome… 😊
Yeah it’s hard to tell unless you’re doing a cut test! Thanks man 🤠
Just discovered your channel. It's awesome. Perfect amount of background info and testing.
Thanks man! 🤠
Lovely choice. I got both the large and small sebenza 31 in magnacut, matching macassar ebony inlays. I alternate them for EDC sometimes, but normally I carry both.
I enjoy these cut testing videos. Longer videos are what I enjoy the most.
You actually used your knife. 🤜🔪🤛
For some reason, this is the most satisfying video I've watched in a long time
There’s something about watching a sharp knife cut things! 🤠
Same thing happened to me! I ordered s45 got magnacut. Glad you finally got one !
No way! Weird. Where’d you order from?
Awesome. You can definitely feel the quality. It is so solid. I think that every time i pick it up. I had no worries it would do very well.
What's nice is as u sharpen it and it goes back it gets thinner behind the edge!
Wow, very nice. Did better than I would have expected. ggs!
I think you did an excellent job picking out this knife.
Beautiful knife! Great design! Work's very well!!!!
Not big on the inlays but man it is such a clean design overall. I love the hump in the blade over the thumb stud. The design language is just a homerun...
The factory Sebenza edge is convex. It will get thinner BTE and more slicey as you sharpen it. If you run your finger and thumb down the hollow towards the edge you can feel it gets slightly thicker just before the edge bevel.
Ah okay cool!
@@doodysdaggersGreat test Baby! 😂
@@Quagmire925 thanks baby!! 😂
Dood, MagnaCut also gives really nice toughness and the heat treat on the CRKs is supposed to be top notch, I don’t think it’s a bad deal at all to get at the same price as the S45VN
For sure, yeah I’m fine with Magnacut for sure. Basically the same edge retention as s45 too
When you can’t tell your old glove from your new glove 😂 Beautiful knife. Would love to add a CRK. Still not sure which yet.
Man.. you’re really making me want one now. 🤙
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Nice review! Really comprehensive and informative man. Do you prefer the micarta over the wood inlays and PJ options? Why did you choose this variation?
Right on glad ya liked it! I’m just a micarta guy
@@doodysdaggers got cha. I actually just watched your video about selling your 31 right after this 😂. I have a pj 31 and I do feel the smallest bit of lock rock on it. I’m surprised I never noticed it before. It’s one of those things that will most likely go unnoticed unless someone mentions it. Idk how I feel about it now
@@myhandle90 yeah it’s kinda weird. Like it doesn’t really matter but it just started to bug me knowing it was there
A nice new addition to the colleccion’ 👍. I like using a wharncliffe blade a lot too . Anything with a lower tip really . Definitely not a tip pointing to the moon tho .
Great video. How do you think this sebenza compares to your native 5 in terms of cutting performance?
The Native 5 had a more versatile blade shape but both are great cutters!
It better work for that price lol
Sweet, looking good
Ordered from Blade HQ and it was supposed to be S45VN but got a Magna Cut...so far am pleased with it.
It happened to you to! That’s so weird.
Yeah I’ve been liking it so far
Sebenzas are classic that works!
Castle gate is my local knife shop great people over there!
The sentiment for not enjoying carrying knives that don’t slice well I share. I had tried to give the XM-18 some chances; eventually leading from a regular spearpoint one to the a skinny slicer grind one. And even the skinny slicer XM-18 had trouble cutting through the most pedestrian of things. Sold it and don’t think I’ll give any of em another chance. I know this is a CRK video but I had to mention this since the Xm-18 and Sebenza are usually brought up in the conversation of great American knives.
I felt the same way about the XM18. But I love the knife! So I sent it to BGM Knives to get reground. He did an amazing job, but a nice hollow grind on it.
So that’s always an option if you love the knife but wish it was slicier
CastleGate is a good shop, live nearby and they’re great in person. They’re often overlooked despite being an authorized dealer. One of the only places that regularly has plain janes in stock.
Oh really! That’s great to know. They sure shipped quickly and responded to my email about the blade steel quickly too.
Love this video
Looks like your CRK passed the test. 👍
Magnacut at 63 should cut circles around S45vn. Does it state blade steel on blade?
Yes but it’s stamped on the inside of the pivot, you can’t see it without taking the knife apart
👍🏼glad your liking it.:)
LMAO😂😅 Dood u used your sh#t, so glad your happy with it after dropping that amount of $ , I would have been so let down n disappointed if my grail knife didn't live up to my expectations. Congrats brother keep on keeping on .
Haha yeah I was praying it would cut well after spending that much!! So happy it did 🤠
Mine, (Sebenza 31 Magnacut, Macassar Ebony, Drop point), wasn't sharp when I got it new....(it would slice 'puter paper, but that was it), so I put a 20 Degree edge on it With the new Worksharp Pro Precision Adjust machine, and HOLY CRAPPAGE ! it will now easily slice phonebook paper, and shave your arm dry.....Huge Difference.....went to 800 grit, then a few strokes with the Ceramic on each side, (4-5), then stropped it LIGHTLY, (3-4 strokes), each side and it's Literally RAZOR sharp !......OnWard.......
That sounds amazing! I’m tempted to put mine on my Worksharp too, I just didn’t want to waste steel. But I think I will. It’s got an awesome sharpening choil so it’ll be fine
Besides Spyderco, CRK does the best factory edges in the business in my experience. Their convex edge is nasty and will hold for a long time in either S45VN or MC. Just picked up a large Insingo in MC and it may be my favorite model from them, especially the large with the Insingo. Congrats on the blade!
Very nice! Yeah I am beginning to see that myself as I use the knife more. Great stuff 🤠
@@doodysdaggers definitely, and when you send it in for a spa treatment you can have them re-establish the convex grind if you want, I have a hard time sharpening convex so I had them re-establish mine and it was just like new!
@@clem8fan how often do you send it in ?
@@doodysdaggers my 31 has gone once, my 21 has gone twice
@@clem8fan will they do anything about scratches on the clip?
I’ve carried a large plain Jane 21 s35vn drop point for the past 11 years. Just finally sold it and switched to a large 31 tanto carbon fiber Magnacut. Edge retention I don’t notice a lock of a difference. But it’s an ounce lighter and won’t corrode on the salt water. Not a huge fan of the ceramic ball lock interface but so far it’s good. I would prefer the 21s lock interface.
So what u think 4 months later now?
I am inclined to ask the same question as mbhaus6349. @jreviews5924 How do you like it 5 months later?
Blade steel should be stamped in the blade if you disassemble
Do you have a bandaid on your thumb because of to pointed thumb stud .
Unrelated. But it is a sharp thumbstud
I think you can buy an additional standoff post from CRK and put that in hole where the lanyard was? You can do that with the Zaan.
Oh really? Okay that would be the best option. I’m going to try a leather lanyard and see if I like it. I also don’t really want just a hole right there. Thanks dood 🤘
always wanted to try a sebenza!
What strop is this? Wanna get one for my Seb and Inkosi
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I am jealous you get to use your knives so much.
Now you’ll have to get an insingo to compare😜
.019 behind the edge seems good with 18 degree edge.
Yeah definitely! I think they chose those measurements well
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Re: the lanyard post, my solution was to just remove it. It doesn't serve any structural purpose.
Ah okay so it just falls out when you take the scale off?
Yep!
The tiniest drop of grease stops the rattling. I didn’t even take mine apart. Just a little grease on a pin point and gently pushed it in and the rattling stopped. Be even easier to get that grease in if you had it apart though.
What's better the TRM Atom or the CRK Sebenza? Or TRM Shadow vs CRK Sebenza?
Depends what you value the most in a pocket knife. The Atom and Shadow are better slicers. The Sebenza is heavier duty
Thanks for responding! I have a large Sebenza in magnacut with black micarta Inlays in my cart right now, but hesitant to pull the trigger @ $600? I love my new TRM Atom in textured Ti scales that has not left my pocket for the last 4 weeks since getting it. I don't use my knives like you do everyday. I'm mostly a light user. But the knife collector in me really wants this CRK Sebenza in magnacut!!! Please Help Dood!!
How hard will it be to find this knife down the road? That's my main question
@@BDevi0us there will be many more releases of the Sebenza in magnacut for sure. They do sell out fast though, but if you’re up on the drops you should be able to get one. I’m not positive on what inlay they’ll be though
Dood! Your using it already. I would still be washing my hands before I touched it so I wouldn’t smudge it
Haha something about this knife just makes me wanna cut stuff! It’s so solid that I feel like nothing can hurt it 😁
Love my insingo. Hard for me to carry other knives
So Bad Ass!!!
Long about the fifth time he said he was "OK with Magnacut" I quit watching.
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I needed to see this!!! Thank god you put it to work right away I wanted to know how it was!
Hell yeah I couldn’t wait! 🤠🤘