For Leadville or packed dry races, the Aspen ST look to be a good choice. I found the original tread Aspens do surprisingly well as a rear in wet condition. My concern would bethe ST may get greasy in any mud. Reguardless, tire choice is highly dependent on the rider and conditions.
On the fence between the aspen and a similar tyre such as the rekon race, what do you think of the aspen so far? I plan on using a pair for xc racing and training on mixed surfaces.
In my opinion, the Aspen is a better overall tire. It also sheds mud pretty well due to the open tread pattern. The Rekon Race will pack up and get greasy. Disclaimer, I only used a Rekon Race for about 3 hours on one ride so my experience is limited. Granted, I only got 3 hours because it got destroyed by a rock so I never bought another. The Aspens however, have been dragged through 100 mile races in rocks and mud with good results.
@williamdunn5642 if you are doing mixed riding, you can always mix tires. For really technical areas, I would ride a Rekon (regular) up front. I've also read of people using a Forekaster. If you're looking for just a truly fast XC setup, the Aspen is pretty good across the board.
Would Scorpion 🦂 🇮🇹 up front & Aspen ❄️ 🇹🇼 on the rear work ? I have Rekon Race stock tube tyres on my Scott Scale but want to go tubeless when they wear out & will choose either Aspen, Scorpion xc rc lite or Continental Race Kings 🏁 👑 🇩🇪
You could mix a Scorpion and Aspen. However, they do have different ride quality and profile. The Aspen is more compliant than the Scorpion. So I'm not sure which application mixing Pirelli and Maxxis would be optimal. The Maxxis Rekon Race & Aspen seems to be a good combination for a lot of people. Otherwise, the Scorpion XC RC front and back was really solid while racing the Leadville 100, and a Scorpion M / XC RC was a really solid combo for the Marji Gesick 100.
Currently, I'm running the Scorpions. I agree with your assessment. They do feel a little slower with better grip when rolling on flat. However, I'm way more confident in technical areas. I'm not sure how that will shake out in Leadville, but the Scorpions will be rollin' there.
@@adamtree the other thing to think about is tyre/rim interface which goes unnoticed. My stock 25mm rim blows up a RR and aspen to 2.4 as advertised but my scorpion comes to around 2.3, which is disappointing. This has led me to question what is faster overall (including grip) - a wider but less nobbled RR/Aspen or my narrower and more grippy scorpion
@ClownPatroI that's a good point. I've also noticed the Scorpions grip better at higher pressures. The Aspens I would usually run around 20 psi. Any higher, and I felt like they lost a lot of grip. The Scorpions I can run around 25 psi with good grip. The higher pressures should give better rolling resistance on less technical areas while maintaining grip on technical sections. The tradeoffs are what make MTB Tire selection so difficult.
Last year, I raced the Marji Gesick on the XC M and really liked the tire. I will be riding them again this spring and have no immediate plans to switch. I am not familiar with the sport version though. In general I've found cheaper tires to be less compliant, and the Pirelli's are already a stiffer tire.
Agree, xc rc are slow but with ok grip and also aspen are slower like barzo with no grip...barzo have 3x more grip like aspen and at lest 2x like scorpion.. till maxxis start to sell that new compound, which should be 30% faster like that old one, maxxis is rubbish. this new compound should hit the market arround summer. Also crossking black chilli have the same resistance like aspen, and have 4x better grip.
Just got a pair of XC RC LITE 2.4, I can't wait to set them up on my new 30mm carbon wheels 💪🏻😈🔝👊🏻
Have you looked into the Goodyear Peak SL race tyre - could be a winner 🏁- they look fast 💨
I'd go Aspen ST when those come out in a few months. Then Recon Race up front.
For Leadville or packed dry races, the Aspen ST look to be a good choice. I found the original tread Aspens do surprisingly well as a rear in wet condition. My concern would bethe ST may get greasy in any mud. Reguardless, tire choice is highly dependent on the rider and conditions.
On the fence between the aspen and a similar tyre such as the rekon race, what do you think of the aspen so far? I plan on using a pair for xc racing and training on mixed surfaces.
In my opinion, the Aspen is a better overall tire. It also sheds mud pretty well due to the open tread pattern. The Rekon Race will pack up and get greasy. Disclaimer, I only used a Rekon Race for about 3 hours on one ride so my experience is limited. Granted, I only got 3 hours because it got destroyed by a rock so I never bought another. The Aspens however, have been dragged through 100 mile races in rocks and mud with good results.
@@adamtree Cheers for that, I'll have to give the Aspen a go 🤘
@williamdunn5642 if you are doing mixed riding, you can always mix tires. For really technical areas, I would ride a Rekon (regular) up front. I've also read of people using a Forekaster. If you're looking for just a truly fast XC setup, the Aspen is pretty good across the board.
Would Scorpion 🦂 🇮🇹 up front & Aspen ❄️ 🇹🇼 on the rear work ? I have Rekon Race stock tube tyres on my Scott Scale but want to go tubeless when they wear out & will choose either Aspen, Scorpion xc rc lite or Continental Race Kings 🏁 👑 🇩🇪
You could mix a Scorpion and Aspen. However, they do have different ride quality and profile. The Aspen is more compliant than the Scorpion. So I'm not sure which application mixing Pirelli and Maxxis would be optimal. The Maxxis Rekon Race & Aspen seems to be a good combination for a lot of people. Otherwise, the Scorpion XC RC front and back was really solid while racing the Leadville 100, and a Scorpion M / XC RC was a really solid combo for the Marji Gesick 100.
Conti RaceKing 🚀
What's your go to? Scorpions seem to roll slower but more grippy
Currently, I'm running the Scorpions. I agree with your assessment. They do feel a little slower with better grip when rolling on flat. However, I'm way more confident in technical areas. I'm not sure how that will shake out in Leadville, but the Scorpions will be rollin' there.
@@adamtree the other thing to think about is tyre/rim interface which goes unnoticed. My stock 25mm rim blows up a RR and aspen to 2.4 as advertised but my scorpion comes to around 2.3, which is disappointing.
This has led me to question what is faster overall (including grip) - a wider but less nobbled RR/Aspen or my narrower and more grippy scorpion
@ClownPatroI that's a good point. I've also noticed the Scorpions grip better at higher pressures. The Aspens I would usually run around 20 psi. Any higher, and I felt like they lost a lot of grip. The Scorpions I can run around 25 psi with good grip. The higher pressures should give better rolling resistance on less technical areas while maintaining grip on technical sections. The tradeoffs are what make MTB Tire selection so difficult.
What do you think of the Scorpion Sport XC M?
Last year, I raced the Marji Gesick on the XC M and really liked the tire. I will be riding them again this spring and have no immediate plans to switch. I am not familiar with the sport version though. In general I've found cheaper tires to be less compliant, and the Pirelli's are already a stiffer tire.
@@adamtree Oh darn I was hoping it be similar stiffness as I like how the Sport XC M look.
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Agree, xc rc are slow but with ok grip and also aspen are slower like barzo with no grip...barzo have 3x more grip like aspen and at lest 2x like scorpion.. till maxxis start to sell that new compound, which should be 30% faster like that old one, maxxis is rubbish. this new compound should hit the market arround summer. Also crossking black chilli have the same resistance like aspen, and have 4x better grip.