I love that you were willing to show not only what works but more importantly what did not work. Good teaching video. Have to admit I loved hearing the sound of the John Deere and the bush hog starting up.
I think you are right that the clay soil had an impact on germination. I've done a non plowing food plot for 3 years, started as clay and each year it gets better, soil compaction and germination rate. Nice experiment and good video.
Thanks for posting. I enjoyed seeing it and actually thought you'd get more rye and oats coming up from the seed off of the previous stand, but looks like the crab grass took over. It is amazing what the soil contact does with the seed. I'll be posting a video in a few days on planting wheat and oats in strips within my five acre field. I didn't want to plant the entire field, but rather instead I planted three 25 foot wide strips at two hundred yards long for each. It works out to just over an acres and is just enough to give the deer something to graze this fall and winter. The video captures disking, seeding, and using the culti-packer to cover and smooth out the seed bed.
Fantastic video thank you very much for showing us. Cowpies are a big seed and are hard to get to germinate laying on the surface. I think if you would have had a lawn roller full of water and or a crimper you would have had a better germination rate. I mowed my first no till thatch last fall and it made the thatch cover thinner,which allowed more sunlight to germinate those super small weed and grass seeds. I upped my seeding rate, rolled my terminated thatch over the seed which.also pressed the seed into the soil before a predicted rain . It was like a green house effect. It worked fantastic. I loved how you showed the results all in one video , I was glued to it from start to finish. Thank you!!
Thanks for sharing. I was wondering if that would work on one of my plots. Very helpful. I think you can use Clethodim to kill grass after it emerges too.
Just found you and just subscribed hope you put out some more stuff time in South Carolina host everything you watch is Jeff sturgis's no-till which is mostly in the northern states so it's good to see you doing your thing
Possibly, tough to say but I think it would have probably helped. My soil conditions just are not good yet. This years Cow Peas are awesome, will do an update video soon
Not tilling wasn’t the problem. Hit it with a dose of 2-4d to kill the weed seeds in the soil 3-4 weeks before you seed then spray with roundup at time of planting.
@@Yellowlab247_Outdoors I’ve had some spots that I even sprayed 3 times with 2-4d 3-4 weeks apart which is NOT recommended and then round up at time of seeding. Worked very very very well. Also rain. No rain? No til sucks.
Just an idea. I think you would benefit from a ‘drag harrow’ Its not that the no-till that failed, I believe it was the seed to soil contact. Here is another food plot grower talking about his experience. ua-cam.com/video/Z1eaaoC7y_0/v-deo.html Let us know if you give it try and how it works out. Thank you for trying something new and exploring and sharing the results
Seems silly, but I use the spreader in the yard in a lot of narrow spaces and really need to see to control where everything goes. I don’t want a ton of clover thrown into my grass, Wasted fertilizer etc.
I love that you were willing to show not only what works but more importantly what did not work. Good teaching video. Have to admit I loved hearing the sound of the John Deere and the bush hog starting up.
I think you are right that the clay soil had an impact on germination. I've done a non plowing food plot for 3 years, started as clay and each year it gets better, soil compaction and germination rate. Nice experiment and good video.
Thanks for posting. I enjoyed seeing it and actually thought you'd get more rye and oats coming up from the seed off of the previous stand, but looks like the crab grass took over. It is amazing what the soil contact does with the seed. I'll be posting a video in a few days on planting wheat and oats in strips within my five acre field. I didn't want to plant the entire field, but rather instead I planted three 25 foot wide strips at two hundred yards long for each. It works out to just over an acres and is just enough to give the deer something to graze this fall and winter. The video captures disking, seeding, and using the culti-packer to cover and smooth out the seed bed.
Fantastic video thank you very much for showing us. Cowpies are a big seed and are hard to get to germinate laying on the surface. I think if you would have had a lawn roller full of water and or a crimper you would have had a better germination rate. I mowed my first no till thatch last fall and it made the thatch cover thinner,which allowed more sunlight to germinate those super small weed and grass seeds. I upped my seeding rate, rolled my terminated thatch over the seed which.also pressed the seed into the soil before a predicted rain . It was like a green house effect. It worked fantastic. I loved how you showed the results all in one video , I was glued to it from start to finish. Thank you!!
Lol don't eat my watermelon!!! Thanks for the time and effort of this video. It is going to be really helpful with my first attempt of a food plot.
Thanks for watching!
Great job !
Thanks for sharing. I was wondering if that would work on one of my plots. Very helpful.
I think you can use Clethodim to kill grass after it emerges too.
Sure can!
Just found you and just subscribed hope you put out some more stuff time in South Carolina host everything you watch is Jeff sturgis's no-till which is mostly in the northern states so it's good to see you doing your thing
Same things happened to me. They looked mediocre, month later grass, everywhere. I even did the pre-emergent
I have done this in South Carolina and eastern North Carolina with good results. I call it throw and mow. My soil did not have as much clay as yours.
We have a lot of clay and rocks! Need to build up my topsoil/organic layer
It’ll take a few years to build up some thatch. They overseeding winter rye and spraying it with glyphosate then seeding, then mowing or rolling.
Good info loved the advice don't eat my watermelon 😅
Do you think the no till would have worked out if you sprayed for weeds??
Possibly, tough to say but I think it would have probably helped. My soil conditions just are not good yet. This years Cow Peas are awesome, will do an update video soon
Why didn’t you do pre emerge on no till too?
Great question, wanted to see how effective a heavy mulch cover was on weed suppression. Answer: not very !!
Not tilling wasn’t the problem. Hit it with a dose of 2-4d to kill the weed seeds in the soil 3-4 weeks before you seed then spray with roundup at time of planting.
Invasive weeds and grasses certainly played a role!
@@Yellowlab247_Outdoors I’ve had some spots that I even sprayed 3 times with 2-4d 3-4 weeks apart which is NOT recommended and then round up at time of seeding. Worked very very very well. Also rain. No rain? No til sucks.
Just an idea. I think you would benefit from a ‘drag harrow’
Its not that the no-till that failed, I believe it was the seed to soil contact.
Here is another food plot grower talking about his experience. ua-cam.com/video/Z1eaaoC7y_0/v-deo.html
Let us know if you give it try and how it works out.
Thank you for trying something new and exploring and sharing the results
Pretty silly to ride behind the seeder that is dusting your face with innoculant.
Seems silly, but I use the spreader in the yard in a lot of narrow spaces and really need to see to control where everything goes. I don’t want a ton of clover thrown into my grass, Wasted fertilizer etc.
How was your ph
Very acidic, the yard adjacent was 4.8-5.3. That plot got 80lbs of Fast Acting in the Fall so its probably closer to 6