@@wisconsinwhitetail9744 I really enjoy discing or tilling and then cultipacking everything! Its just looks good to the eyes lol. Keep up the good work!
Yeah the rye thatch can make it hard getting good germination on the brassicas. I’m going to till plant my buckwheat from now on. Then do no till brassicas into the buckwheat in the summer. Even the buckwheat had spotty germination in some areas of the 5-6ft tall rye.
I would recommend doing a tilled buckwheat planting to get good germination. Then no-till into the buckwheat if there is some weeds mixed in the buckwheat that’s ok because you will be crushing down and spraying the plot the day you plant and should get an ok kill on the weeds mixed in with the buckwheat. Not tilling the soil will really help to keep the brassica plot weed free.
When planting earlier in the year like a spring corn or soybean planting without using stronger chemicals I will not be able to get the weed control I would like in this field. That is why I’m going to continue to till when planting corn in this field. When planting Brassicas, yes no-till is definitely 100% the way to go in this particular field.
I saw in some other video if you crush it in the evening, it’s better for the bees. Not as active. Keep the vids coming. Love the content. WNY-by Buffalo….
I would till up every plot you have and plant rye and buckwheat and let it go to seed and let it replant itself for about 2 years so it hopefully kills the weeds.
Some browse but very minimal. There’s a lot of moisture in it they were probably eating it more for the water than the taste. There’s a lot of swamp by me and they probably get most their water from the wetland plants they browse on in the swamps by me.
I put out winter greens this year. Wish added radish but didn’t. Coming in nicely along with some rye /oats /clover. Been trying to get plots done with rain fall this fall
@@wisconsinwhitetail9744 only mistake I made was should of waited couple weeks before added the rye and oats. So far all is going well as deer starting to graze the rye and oats. Giving brassicas kale and clover chance to establish 🤞🏻
NW lower Michigan was dry for July, 1.5 inches. The deer ate my no till buckwheat to the dirt since their native browse was dry. Brassica went in Aug 3rd with much better moisture for Aug of 6 inches. Hoping September continues some growth 🤞🏼.
Deer destroyed my no till brassica ate plot down to dirt. Screw up in beginning on planted half should of plant it all at once. Then didn't get good germination second time different variety of seed no rain drought southwest Michigan
I'm planning on tilling to plant my BW next year for sure. Your correct getting the Buckwheat to establish fast and thick is key to weed free fall plot to plant into.
This is only year 2 of me doing the food plots. I have buckwheat in right now. I don't really like spraying so do you think it'd be ok to till it in before planting for fall? Or do you want it to be laying on top like that? I also wonder if I don't till it in, I wondered if I could mow it after broadcasting and then run the packer over it?
Waterhemp is very hard to control. Especially since it can put out a few hundred thousand seeds a year. Any single one plant that escapes can destroy a field in just a few years. Even worse is they are becoming resistant to many chemicals. Thanks for the videos.
I’ll have another video coming out sometime here in September of my wetter field that is almost solid water hemp. It is the only weed that really comes up. I had some buckwheat in that spot too and did a no-till planting and that came up great.
@@wisconsinwhitetail9744 The control you have with the equipment you have is very impressive honestly. Waterhemp is my biggest issue. (Im a chemical rep in the ag industry)
@@JeffreyR I planted a lot of my corn on 38in this year so I could cultivate it 2-3 times. Along with 1 round of spraying to clean up the weeds in the rows by the corn plants. I’ve had by far the best weed control in a lot of my plots, compared to other years when I would just spray 2 times. I’m going to try planting some of my beans on 38in rows next year and cultivate them too. Cultivating is very practical on my small scale. Check this video out ua-cam.com/video/vSMQ7N-FiLI/v-deo.html This is a corn video in my weediest field that is completely infested with water hemp and giant ragweed being the only weeds. I had no pre emerge herbicide on my corn so millions of water hemp seeds came up.
looks awesome - when did you plant that buckwheat? I'm in Monroe & Jackson counties WI. It would be cool to find/build a front mount roller/crimper for ATV/UTV, so you dont get build up in the radiator
Buckwheat was planted June 11. Here the video ua-cam.com/video/GxXOneYtUdo/v-deo.html Crushing standing 5ft rye is worse. Gets all of pollen into the radiator:
I’ve never had to transport it. It definitely would be a pain. You wouldn’t want to take it down the rd maybe in the grass or ditch. Or have to load it on a trailer I guess.
ua-cam.com/video/GxXOneYtUdo/v-deo.html 👆 Here is a link to the buckwheat planting video. The first plot that had less weeds and turned out better that section I tilled when I planted the buckwheat. The area with the rye thatch I no tilled buckwheat.
Barely at 1. I don’t really use a setting. After a few years of seeding you get the feel for it. Generally on good sunny ground you don’t want more than 3 brassicas per sq ft. Less is more when it comes to brassicas. Don’t overseed.
I mainly use no till to control weeds, I prefer whatever controls the weeds the best. I like turning dirt and tilling but it’s not always the best option because certain plots have a lot of weeds.
I’m on the fence with the whole no till thing . Any brassica or clover seed bag always says to use a cultipacker. When I till , pack , spread the seeds and pack again I get my best results. Weeds are usually minimal . You’d be surprised at how many weeds deer eat. If you had any equipment at your disposal, what would be your preferred method ?
I know deer eat lots of different weeds and plants, but I am trying to grow the most tonnage for the fall and winter. When I till I have had better results not to cultipacking before seeding. Broadcasting right onto the light loose fluffy ground and then cultipacking. It doesn’t cover the seeds too deep. I don’t really have a preferred method just any method that results in less weeds.
Below is a bunch of links to bucks we have shot over the actual food plots. Food plots really come into play in late Nov through winter. ua-cam.com/video/XRr2iXVVM9E/v-deo.htmlsi=e56q5ndacr7_mDW5 ua-cam.com/video/Zlp0jkfoR5s/v-deo.htmlsi=EsC_NIkvC8Cdt5_K ua-cam.com/video/VrPapMoiclY/v-deo.htmlsi=f66bDVXa6yH4xjSE ua-cam.com/video/DVx2dWiDEjI/v-deo.htmlsi=iVT9Ro8LGqvLoeFj
Yeah, use it as a cover crop to no till seed into. If you just broadcast brassicas into bare packed dirt they don’t do that well. The buckwheat keeps most of the weeds under control if you get a thick stand.
I am not taking credit for developing this method. I have never once said that in any of my videos. Last years buckwheat food plot videos I specifically stated that this was the Jeff Sturgis method. He doesn’t include enough on the ground footage and results in his videos. He’s too professional about everything. People like to see results from start to finish and not all talk all the time.
Wait....let me get this straight. You actually farm up this ground, plant it to attract deer, and then just shoot them when they show up? And this is considered "hunting"? Do you even grow vegetable gardens for you families, after all this work put in to lure deer in for an easy shot?
Wait….let me get this straight. You actually don’t know what your talking about. That’s what food plots are. They attract deer to your land, so you can either shoot them in the field or somewhere on your property. It’s not like you plant a field of brassicas and your going to have 3 mature bucks step out into it in daylight. Does yes, but killing nice bucks still takes woodsmanship and skill to find those certain areas they travel in daylight. And on this property unfortunately we don’t own much of the buck bedding. I hunt a lot of public land as well. Yes my family and I probably plant a bigger vegetable garden than you do. We have about a 1/3 acre sweet corn patch up by the house and lots tomatoes, cucumbers, green beans etc. Me and my dad plant in total 1.5-2acres of pumpkins every year that we pick and sell out by the rd at home. So an easy shot on a deer in a food plot here and there is well earned.
Wait….you planted a pollinator so people can have better gardens. I eat the turnips and radishes I plant in the process of getting some protein in the fall/winter. I think buckwheat can be used in salads. Multi purpose use of land. 👍
Food plots feed animals which feed the people that plant them. If you get 80# of protein from one food plot that is more valuable food than you'd get from harvesting everything you planted
Great video! Watching you crush that buckwheat was oddly satisfying haha
Even more satisfying in person. Crushing rye or buckwheat down when doing a no till planting is my favorite part about planting brassicas.
@@wisconsinwhitetail9744 I really enjoy discing or tilling and then cultipacking everything! Its just looks good to the eyes lol. Keep up the good work!
Great job on the video. Like how you showed the difference between the 2. I've seen some similar issues.
Yeah the rye thatch can make it hard getting good germination on the brassicas. I’m going to till plant my buckwheat from now on. Then do no till brassicas into the buckwheat in the summer. Even the buckwheat had spotty germination in some areas of the 5-6ft tall rye.
Great video getting some ideas for next year
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Great video! Good comparison of no till vs till, I have never tried no till, might have to try that next year!
I would recommend doing a tilled buckwheat planting to get good germination. Then no-till into the buckwheat if there is some weeds mixed in the buckwheat that’s ok because you will be crushing down and spraying the plot the day you plant and should get an ok kill on the weeds mixed in with the buckwheat. Not tilling the soil will really help to keep the brassica plot weed free.
Videos are great. Thank you.
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Good comparison and examples of why you should sell your disc's & never break your ground ever again, unless it's to create a firebreak
When planting earlier in the year like a spring corn or soybean planting without using stronger chemicals I will not be able to get the weed control I would like in this field. That is why I’m going to continue to till when planting corn in this field. When planting Brassicas, yes no-till is definitely 100% the way to go in this particular field.
Nice video! ...at roughly 23 minutes, when you mentioned the succulent, low growing weed you didn't know.... that looked like Purslane.
Yeah I just looked it up and that’s definitely what it is. Thanks for the comment.
Keep the Brassicas videos coming bud👍
A few more on the way
I saw in some other video if you crush it in the evening, it’s better for the bees. Not as active.
Keep the vids coming. Love the content. WNY-by Buffalo….
I wasn’t worried about killing any bees while crushing it, I just knew that I was going to completely destroy a large pollinator source for the bees.
I would till up every plot you have and plant rye and buckwheat and let it go to seed and let it replant itself for about 2 years so it hopefully kills the weeds.
I am in portage county, the deer LOVE my buckwheat, they nip off just about all of it. I’m surprised you don’t see more browse honestly
Some browse but very minimal. There’s a lot of moisture in it they were probably eating it more for the water than the taste. There’s a lot of swamp by me and they probably get most their water from the wetland plants they browse on in the swamps by me.
I put out winter greens this year. Wish added radish but didn’t. Coming in nicely along with some rye /oats /clover. Been trying to get plots done with rain fall this fall
We’ve been getting soaked with rain here. Over 3inches in the last 24 hrs. Yeah, tillage radish is a great early season attraction.
@@wisconsinwhitetail9744 only mistake I made was should of waited couple weeks before added the rye and oats. So far all is going well as deer starting to graze the rye and oats. Giving brassicas kale and clover chance to establish 🤞🏻
NW lower Michigan was dry for July, 1.5 inches. The deer ate my no till buckwheat to the dirt since their native browse was dry. Brassica went in Aug 3rd with much better moisture for Aug of 6 inches. Hoping September continues some growth 🤞🏼.
We had a 2 week stretch in late June without rain. But other than that we’ve had a pretty wet summer. Grass never even turned yellow.
Deer destroyed my no till brassica ate plot down to dirt. Screw up in beginning on planted half should of plant it all at once. Then didn't get good germination second time different variety of seed no rain drought southwest Michigan
I'm planning on tilling to plant my BW next year for sure. Your correct getting the Buckwheat to establish fast and thick is key to weed free fall plot to plant into.
Me too, I’m not going to let the rye get to 5ft tall in any area I plan to do brassicas in the future.
Your no till Brassicas r better then mine .U r right it does keep tweets down but not sure about the Is germination
The thick rye layer is why I got spotty germination in the 2nd plot. I can’t let my rye get 5ft tall in my brassica plots.
This is only year 2 of me doing the food plots. I have buckwheat in right now. I don't really like spraying so do you think it'd be ok to till it in before planting for fall? Or do you want it to be laying on top like that? I also wonder if I don't till it in, I wondered if I could mow it after broadcasting and then run the packer over it?
Waterhemp is very hard to control. Especially since it can put out a few hundred thousand seeds a year. Any single one plant that escapes can destroy a field in just a few years. Even worse is they are becoming resistant to many chemicals.
Thanks for the videos.
I’ll have another video coming out sometime here in September of my wetter field that is almost solid water hemp. It is the only weed that really comes up. I had some buckwheat in that spot too and did a no-till planting and that came up great.
@@wisconsinwhitetail9744 The control you have with the equipment you have is very impressive honestly. Waterhemp is my biggest issue. (Im a chemical rep in the ag industry)
@@JeffreyR I planted a lot of my corn on 38in this year so I could cultivate it 2-3 times. Along with 1 round of spraying to clean up the weeds in the rows by the corn plants. I’ve had by far the best weed control in a lot of my plots, compared to other years when I would just spray 2 times.
I’m going to try planting some of my beans on 38in rows next year and cultivate them too. Cultivating is very practical on my small scale.
Check this video out
ua-cam.com/video/vSMQ7N-FiLI/v-deo.html
This is a corn video in my weediest field that is completely infested with water hemp and giant ragweed being the only weeds. I had no pre emerge herbicide on my corn so millions of water hemp seeds came up.
Those cultipackers kill rye when it's in its anthesis stage?
I got two up mowing TC
looks awesome - when did you plant that buckwheat? I'm in Monroe & Jackson counties WI. It would be cool to find/build a front mount roller/crimper for ATV/UTV, so you dont get build up in the radiator
Buckwheat was planted June 11. Here the video ua-cam.com/video/GxXOneYtUdo/v-deo.html
Crushing standing 5ft rye is worse. Gets all of pollen into the radiator:
How do you move the cultipacker if you have to go a mile or so down a gravel road so the wheels don't get damaged?
I’ve never had to transport it. It definitely would be a pain. You wouldn’t want to take it down the rd maybe in the grass or ditch. Or have to load it on a trailer I guess.
Did you disc or till before planting your buckwheat? Or did you just broadcast it on the ground for planting.
ua-cam.com/video/GxXOneYtUdo/v-deo.html
👆 Here is a link to the buckwheat planting video. The first plot that had less weeds and turned out better that section I tilled when I planted the buckwheat. The area with the rye thatch I no tilled buckwheat.
What setting did you have the broadcaster at?
Barely at 1. I don’t really use a setting. After a few years of seeding you get the feel for it. Generally on good sunny ground you don’t want more than 3 brassicas per sq ft. Less is more when it comes to brassicas. Don’t overseed.
So when all is said and done do you prefer no till too actually tilling?
I mainly use no till to control weeds, I prefer whatever controls the weeds the best. I like turning dirt and tilling but it’s not always the best option because certain plots have a lot of weeds.
I’m on the fence with the whole no till thing . Any brassica or clover seed bag always says to use a cultipacker. When I till , pack , spread the seeds and pack again I get my best results. Weeds are usually minimal . You’d be surprised at how many weeds deer eat. If you had any equipment at your disposal, what would be your preferred method ?
That’s the same way I plant my food plots, no weeds and great food plots!
I know deer eat lots of different weeds and plants, but I am trying to grow the most tonnage for the fall and winter.
When I till I have had better results not to cultipacking before seeding. Broadcasting right onto the light loose fluffy ground and then cultipacking. It doesn’t cover the seeds too deep.
I don’t really have a preferred method just any method that results in less weeds.
@@wisconsinwhitetail9744 specially when weeds die during heavy frost. Need supply of food when all else is gone
What is the benefit of crushing instead of bush hogging?
When brush hogging you can’t spray the day of planting and get a good kill on the buckwheat and weeds.
Honeybees love buckwheat
Yeah seems like it. Every year tons of them flock to it.
what does buck do green when blue is grey 1 time per year?
No idea what you mean
Do you have any videos of yourself killing decent bucks near your food plots?... if so what are their links?
Thx,
DS
Below is a bunch of links to bucks we have shot over the actual food plots. Food plots really come into play in late Nov through winter.
ua-cam.com/video/XRr2iXVVM9E/v-deo.htmlsi=e56q5ndacr7_mDW5
ua-cam.com/video/Zlp0jkfoR5s/v-deo.htmlsi=EsC_NIkvC8Cdt5_K
ua-cam.com/video/VrPapMoiclY/v-deo.htmlsi=f66bDVXa6yH4xjSE
ua-cam.com/video/DVx2dWiDEjI/v-deo.htmlsi=iVT9Ro8LGqvLoeFj
What cultipacker are you using?
I am not sure the make and style of the cultipacker just a generic old farm cultipacker.
You just use buckwheat for mulching purposes?
Yeah, use it as a cover crop to no till seed into. If you just broadcast brassicas into bare packed dirt they don’t do that well. The buckwheat keeps most of the weeds under control if you get a thick stand.
Great,I have cows don't know if they would eat it.
where did you get your cultilpacker
Grandpas old cultipacker, I’m sure you can find them on Facebook marketplace for a couple hundred bucks.
I had some honey hole once
Every time its a experiment!
Yep for sure, if you never try something new you’ll never learn something new.
Your seed mix looked like fruity pebbles
😂 I guess so
…or just watch Jeff Sturgis, who originally developed this method
I am not taking credit for developing this method. I have never once said that in any of my videos. Last years buckwheat food plot videos I specifically stated that this was the Jeff Sturgis method. He doesn’t include enough on the ground footage and results in his videos. He’s too professional about everything. People like to see results from start to finish and not all talk all the time.
@@wisconsinwhitetail9744 valid point, good sir.
Wait....let me get this straight. You actually farm up this ground, plant it to attract deer, and then just shoot them when they show up? And this is considered "hunting"? Do you even grow vegetable gardens for you families, after all this work put in to lure deer in for an easy shot?
Wait….let me get this straight. You actually don’t know what your talking about.
That’s what food plots are. They attract deer to your land, so you can either shoot them in the field or somewhere on your property. It’s not like you plant a field of brassicas and your going to have 3 mature bucks step out into it in daylight. Does yes, but killing nice bucks still takes woodsmanship and skill to find those certain areas they travel in daylight. And on this property unfortunately we don’t own much of the buck bedding. I hunt a lot of public land as well.
Yes my family and I probably plant a bigger vegetable garden than you do. We have about a 1/3 acre sweet corn patch up by the house and lots tomatoes, cucumbers, green beans etc. Me and my dad plant in total 1.5-2acres of pumpkins every year that we pick and sell out by the rd at home. So an easy shot on a deer in a food plot here and there is well earned.
Wait….you planted a pollinator so people can have better gardens. I eat the turnips and radishes I plant in the process of getting some protein in the fall/winter. I think buckwheat can be used in salads. Multi purpose use of land. 👍
Food plots feed animals which feed the people that plant them. If you get 80# of protein from one food plot that is more valuable food than you'd get from harvesting everything you planted