I've ridden my friend's RXF 38 and so far it's the one that I liked best among the 38 stanchion forks. I can't really put it into words, but it is something about the mid stroke. It's not such a game changer that it would justify selling my ZEB Ultimate and getting one, but it is noticeable. I also like that Öhlins products (like the new Rockshox 23 products) have limited settings, which makes tuning much easier.
Nice shocks! I have my spur running Fox Step cast up front and Fox DPS remote on the rear, I have them both running on a remote lock out. I mention this because Transition said it couldn’t be done and lots of people had contacted them about this… TBH it was fairly easy. Let me know if you want to know more. Cheers.
Seems like a popular combo for the Spur. I've been thinking about going this way for a while but Ohlins stuff is quite expensive here in Europe, which is quite surprising considering its a Swedish company.
I got the SID suspension on my Spur. It feels supportive but its not very plush, the rear isnt too bad but with the fork I have been having a hard time to get it so it doesn't beat me up. I just figured thats what you get for 120mm of travel.
Interesting... I'm in the process of doing a frame build for this upcoming season in FL/GA... Ohlins is probably going to be the route that I end up rolling with, but they rxc34 seems difficult to find
I am glad to hear this. I went with rxf 38 fork and ttx for my Rallon and the feel is a lot better than my Fox setup. The issue I’m having as I continue to dial everything in is that if I go fully open HSC it feels great to me but I end up using full travel all over the place even in smaller hits. But then if I go to the next position on the levers it feels too harsh for DH. So maybe I run HSC fully open but increase LSC? Or go to the second position for HSC and decrease LSC so it doesn’t bottom out easily but is more supple on smaller hits?
For the RXF38m.2, there is a third are chamber accessible at the bottom of your fork leg called the "ramp up chamber". It seems like you need to increase the spring rate's progressive nature. Pump this chamber up more and your fork will resist bottom outs better. We use this technology instead of volume spacers like in the RXF34m.2. Hope this helps.
I am looking for a way to avoid bottoming out on my Norco Sight which as a fairly low progression rate (19%), which is quite a bit lower than the Transition Spur. I have been wondering whether the TTX Air 2, or maybe even better the Air 1, would help with bottom out resistance. In your review it sounds like it might? Thanks!
hello! what would you choose as one bike for trail - cross-country trips, this spur with ohlins, or your spec stumpjumper ? I already had a stumpjumper 22`(no horst link), I'm looking for a lighter bike for everything, so that it rides well up but does not have the same conservative geometry as the classic xc bikes.
Hi Clint, does both the Fox and Ohlins suspension provide a significant upgrade over the Rockshox suspension that comes on the Spur? And does this upgrade add much weight, which I believe you said 24lbs in your earlier review of the bike. Thanks... like how you're experimenting with the bike in a quest for better riding performance.
RockShox Sid on my original transition spur was lighter and worked well. However general consensus is that it requires more frequent maintenance compared to Fox. Personally I just think the quality of Fox and Ohlins is better.
Is there a reason you went with the TTX1 over the TTX2? I would’ve guessed the TTX2 might be better suited for a progressive bike like the Spur, but sounds like you still need to add volume spacers when you want to do bigger jumps, so maybe the TTX1 is a match for the Spur.
My first Spur was the RockShox build. Very light suspension and works really well. I have heard from some people that RockShox takes more maintenance. I prefer Fox also because I have all the tools in my garage to work on them.
@@ClintGibbs when it comes to ride quality, especially in rocky or bumpy sections, would you say all 3 brands are about equal? I have a SIDLuxe rear shock on my spur and it is great on the downs and flats but pedaling uphill with the compression lever open, it dives into the travel anytime I hit a rock or bump. If the compression lever is closed, it is pretty harsh on singletrack. I live in CO so there are lots of bumps Love your videos btw, been watching for a very long time. I bought a scout a few years ago because of one of your videos as well
@@kalegreen9695 the Ohlins rides the best of all of them. It does not bob too much on the climbs and then it rides a bit higher in its travel so you almost feel like you have more travel. It gives the bike a hover bike feeling. So in terms of performance I would say Ohlins , then Fox and then Rock shocks. And thanks for being a longtime subscriber! The scout is such a sweet bike and I know you’re still enjoying it!
It has the bolt holes to mount yeah, but doesn't come supplied. I bought an RRP mudguard that looks pretty sweet and moto-ish, although they offer in a few sizes/lengths.
These are great suspension analysis vids.
Would like to see this on the Stumpjumper
I've ridden my friend's RXF 38 and so far it's the one that I liked best among the 38 stanchion forks. I can't really put it into words, but it is something about the mid stroke. It's not such a game changer that it would justify selling my ZEB Ultimate and getting one, but it is noticeable. I also like that Öhlins products (like the new Rockshox 23 products) have limited settings, which makes tuning much easier.
Nice shocks! I have my spur running Fox Step cast up front and Fox DPS remote on the rear, I have them both running on a remote lock out. I mention this because Transition said it couldn’t be done and lots of people had contacted them about this… TBH it was fairly easy. Let me know if you want to know more. Cheers.
Finally someone explaining the shock in a simple way
Seems like a popular combo for the Spur. I've been thinking about going this way for a while but Ohlins stuff is quite expensive here in Europe, which is quite surprising considering its a Swedish company.
I got the SID suspension on my Spur. It feels supportive but its not very plush, the rear isnt too bad but with the fork I have been having a hard time to get it so it doesn't beat me up. I just figured thats what you get for 120mm of travel.
I put a full Ohlins on my Evil Offering v2 and it is THE BEST. It is totally worth the $ if you have it
Interesting... I'm in the process of doing a frame build for this upcoming season in FL/GA... Ohlins is probably going to be the route that I end up rolling with, but they rxc34 seems difficult to find
Did you have to use spherical bearing when installing the ohlins shock on the spur?
I am glad to hear this. I went with rxf 38 fork and ttx for my Rallon and the feel is a lot better than my Fox setup. The issue I’m having as I continue to dial everything in is that if I go fully open HSC it feels great to me but I end up using full travel all over the place even in smaller hits. But then if I go to the next position on the levers it feels too harsh for DH. So maybe I run HSC fully open but increase LSC? Or go to the second position for HSC and decrease LSC so it doesn’t bottom out easily but is more supple on smaller hits?
Sounds like you should add volume spacers.
For the RXF38m.2, there is a third are chamber accessible at the bottom of your fork leg called the "ramp up chamber". It seems like you need to increase the spring rate's progressive nature. Pump this chamber up more and your fork will resist bottom outs better. We use this technology instead of volume spacers like in the RXF34m.2. Hope this helps.
I wonder how this rear shock compares to the rockshox vivid ultimate?
I am looking for a way to avoid bottoming out on my Norco Sight which as a fairly low progression rate (19%), which is quite a bit lower than the Transition Spur. I have been wondering whether the TTX Air 2, or maybe even better the Air 1, would help with bottom out resistance. In your review it sounds like it might? Thanks!
Love these videos. Nice job! Have you ever tried DVO or Manitou suspension?
hello! what would you choose as one bike for trail - cross-country trips, this spur with ohlins, or your spec stumpjumper ?
I already had a stumpjumper 22`(no horst link), I'm looking for a lighter bike for everything, so that it rides well up but does not have the same conservative geometry as the classic xc bikes.
Hi Clint, does both the Fox and Ohlins suspension provide a significant upgrade over the Rockshox suspension that comes on the Spur? And does this upgrade add much weight, which I believe you said 24lbs in your earlier review of the bike. Thanks... like how you're experimenting with the bike in a quest for better riding performance.
RockShox Sid on my original transition spur was lighter and worked well. However general consensus is that it requires more frequent maintenance compared to Fox. Personally I just think the quality of Fox and Ohlins is better.
@@ClintGibbs Have you considered doing a third comparison/test with Cane Creek? Curious.
@@davidf1288 I have considered it but have so many projects in the works right now that it’s going to be a later date.
Is there a reason you went with the TTX1 over the TTX2? I would’ve guessed the TTX2 might be better suited for a progressive bike like the Spur, but sounds like you still need to add volume spacers when you want to do bigger jumps, so maybe the TTX1 is a match for the Spur.
It was the one Ohlins sent for the project
Curtis how much he weighs
Have you ever tried Spur with the SIDLuxe shock? If yes, how does it compare?
My first Spur was the RockShox build. Very light suspension and works really well. I have heard from some people that RockShox takes more maintenance. I prefer Fox also because I have all the tools in my garage to work on them.
@@ClintGibbs when it comes to ride quality, especially in rocky or bumpy sections, would you say all 3 brands are about equal? I have a SIDLuxe rear shock on my spur and it is great on the downs and flats but pedaling uphill with the compression lever open, it dives into the travel anytime I hit a rock or bump. If the compression lever is closed, it is pretty harsh on singletrack. I live in CO so there are lots of bumps
Love your videos btw, been watching for a very long time. I bought a scout a few years ago because of one of your videos as well
@@kalegreen9695 the Ohlins rides the best of all of them. It does not bob too much on the climbs and then it rides a bit higher in its travel so you almost feel like you have more travel. It gives the bike a hover bike feeling. So in terms of performance I would say Ohlins , then Fox and then Rock shocks.
And thanks for being a longtime subscriber! The scout is such a sweet bike and I know you’re still enjoying it!
does Olins fork have a fender that can be mounted on ? (no tip ties)
It has the bolt holes to mount yeah, but doesn't come supplied. I bought an RRP mudguard that looks pretty sweet and moto-ish, although they offer in a few sizes/lengths.
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