Why is macOS 11 Big Sur (Beta) Ugly? - Krazy Ken's Tech Misadventures

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  • macOS 11 Big Sur is a huge release from Apple. But… why is it ugly? It has an all-new user interface, but since it's in beta, there's a couple issues. Let's take a look. Remember, this is the first BETA of this system. To see the public release (11.0.1) in action, check out this episode: • macOS Big Sur Tour, Ti...
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  • @dgames1355
    @dgames1355 3 роки тому +2322

    That battery icon literally looks like it’s from one of those crappy “battery saving” apps

    • @allan.n.7227
      @allan.n.7227 3 роки тому +32

      Spot on 😁😄

    • @OscatA
      @OscatA 3 роки тому +36

      The battery icon looks Apple-like to me, but the color scheme and gradients of the battery icon look...um...bad.

    • @jacobanderson9530
      @jacobanderson9530 3 роки тому +8

      make sure to send feedback in the feedback assistant

    • @oofnack
      @oofnack 3 роки тому +5

      why did i put that battery saveing app on my dads phone once in like 2015

    • @MenacingPerson
      @MenacingPerson 3 роки тому +1

      it's like a spicy pillow

  •  3 роки тому +981

    These icons feel like the "realistic" 3D renders of The Simpsons characters.

    • @therottenlemon5048
      @therottenlemon5048 3 роки тому +18

      thats the best way ive seen this described as

    • @JakeyCroft
      @JakeyCroft 3 роки тому +4

      True 😂👌🏽

    • @tHeplAyiER
      @tHeplAyiER 3 роки тому +3

      This sums it up pretty nicely xD

    • @xcruxifiedx3477
      @xcruxifiedx3477 3 роки тому +2

      that describes it perfectly 😂

    • @coffeearch2906
      @coffeearch2906 3 роки тому +1

      Or pacman, or LEGO...that was Horrendous.

  • @ashleybyram9095
    @ashleybyram9095 3 роки тому +1152

    The battery looks like when your charging a dead 2009 android phone

    • @gao_yuan
      @gao_yuan 3 роки тому +15

      Actually, 1999.

    • @NonsensicalSpudz
      @NonsensicalSpudz 3 роки тому +36

      @@gao_yuan android didn't exist 1999, neither did battery icons on that level of style

    • @annaaffkhan
      @annaaffkhan 3 роки тому +7

      @@NonsensicalSpudz cheeel kaarl cheel cheel!

    • @ccanthony887
      @ccanthony887 3 роки тому +6

      NonsensicalVids thanks smartass

    • @SananeNapcanAmq
      @SananeNapcanAmq 3 роки тому +3

      @@NonsensicalSpudz imagine taking everything seriously LMAO

  • @LunarDelta
    @LunarDelta 3 роки тому +102

    The "100%" being so badly off-center bugs the crap out of me.

    • @no89lan3
      @no89lan3 3 роки тому +1

      It's just gross

  • @padraigrab08
    @padraigrab08 3 роки тому +1398

    When the macOS battery icon looks like one from a kid fake phone. Only thing it needs now is a smiley face

    • @Curios_Cat
      @Curios_Cat 3 роки тому +7

      Yes! Exactly what I was saying

    • @Oney105
      @Oney105 3 роки тому +7

      It gives me Subway Surfers Vibes

    • @jacobanderson9530
      @jacobanderson9530 3 роки тому +1

      make sure to send feedback in the feedback assistant

    • @realandychen
      @realandychen 3 роки тому +1

      You know, I think that Tim Apple is trying to copy Steve Jobs, cause Steve was the one who did the whole "freindly" interface language, but I guess it works? maybe?

    • @Executivebird
      @Executivebird 3 роки тому

      Pod lol I was thinking that

  • @feratul9173
    @feratul9173 3 роки тому +223

    new apple icon designer : "Ah, yes. Design is my passion. I am a professional WordArt designer, shade is my soul."

    • @alus992
      @alus992 3 роки тому +20

      Apple is like trying to compete with Microsoft for most inconsistent design title for their OS.
      I would never thought that Apple could make something so inconsistent and jarring to look at

    • @eliusamarus
      @eliusamarus 3 роки тому

      Hahahahahhahahaha. Absolutely!

  • @random_rosa
    @random_rosa 3 роки тому +92

    these icons remind me of that meme with the cat, “graphic design is my passion”

    • @kg790
      @kg790 3 роки тому +2

      Just did a search for that phrase and now I'm crying
      knowyourmeme.com/memes/graphic-design-is-my-passion

    • @Ben-rz9cf
      @Ben-rz9cf 3 роки тому +2

      as an actual designer it brings me joy to see such terribleness captured so perfectly.
      in one typography class back in college we would actually submit assignments using comic sans as a joke

    • @PatchworkRose567
      @PatchworkRose567 3 роки тому +1

      As a graphic communications student, I just want to go in and fix the icons as it feels like I’m staring at an unfinished project with tons of placeholders of things that need to be refined and uniform with the rest of the design. There are things in some of the icons that are considered wrong when it comes to designing

  • @Xeyph
    @Xeyph 3 роки тому +85

    You know they really messed up the icons when even Microsoft has released better icons recently.

    • @illford6921
      @illford6921 3 роки тому +3

      The Microsoft icons are iconic, how dare you diss the Windows XP icons

    • @aetimes2
      @aetimes2 3 роки тому +1

      @@illford6921 i don't think you know what he meant... ua-cam.com/video/wYmTkgqbrDM/v-deo.html

    • @MCAlexisYT
      @MCAlexisYT Рік тому +1

      @@illford6921 He’s only talking about Windows 11’s icons and nothing else

  • @coneypylon
    @coneypylon 3 роки тому +502

    The icons look like a bootleg version of MacOS

    • @jacobanderson9530
      @jacobanderson9530 3 роки тому +19

      make sure to send feedback in the feedback assistant

    • @FoxBlocksHere
      @FoxBlocksHere 3 роки тому +7

      "bootleg version of MacOS"
      laughs in Red Star OS

    • @Rashaexe
      @Rashaexe 3 роки тому +1

      Like they tried to port iOS to the Mac

    • @sxuan8419
      @sxuan8419 3 роки тому +1

      Yep. When I watched the keynote being showed, I thought even the circle icons are much better than the squircle ones on the desktop machines. The new icons are hilarious about shape and design detail. I still hope Apple will keep the old design of icons or make them just circular.

    • @asfrflagcommunity966
      @asfrflagcommunity966 3 роки тому

      ItzMichaelPhillips it’s *laughs in Korean*

  • @xeijix
    @xeijix 3 роки тому +354

    It's like they've given fresh-outa-classical-artschool-interns-who-played-around-with-illustrator-for-2hours the responsibility to redesign all of the icons

    • @_danu
      @_danu 3 роки тому +21

      No joke its bassicly animoji edition of icon or a paint 3d edition

    • @FascistTrex
      @FascistTrex 3 роки тому +6

      Maybe it's the same guy that made the adobe redesign

    • @haze2427
      @haze2427 3 роки тому

      And the entire UI also

    • @user-ve7rz3pm3h
      @user-ve7rz3pm3h 3 роки тому +1

      Apple isn't exactly one to abide by social norms...
      In business, youre always told that market research is vital to a businesses success and yet, when steve jobs was asked if he wanted to do it, he replied ''no because our customers don't know what they want until we've shown them."

    • @axethepenguin
      @axethepenguin 3 роки тому

      @@_danu paint 3d looks even better than this

  • @Scout6O9
    @Scout6O9 3 роки тому +68

    As a graphic designer i almost died from laughing when i saw those app store corners and battery icon 😂😂😂
    I was like :
    *It's so ugly ...I love it!*

  • @DavidsLifeYT
    @DavidsLifeYT 3 роки тому +85

    the icons and stuff makes it look like a children’s toy, i’ll be keeping Catalina for now

    • @KSA21Geladettor
      @KSA21Geladettor 3 роки тому +7

      David’s Tech Talk me too unless they keep the icons normal like before

    • @happysmash27
      @happysmash27 3 роки тому +9

      For me, it strongly reminds me of children's toys and that blue Windows XP theme. I'm surprised there aren't more people commenting that.

    • @DavidsLifeYT
      @DavidsLifeYT 3 роки тому +1

      happysmash27 i would rather use windows xp tbh lol

    • @MJ-uk6lu
      @MJ-uk6lu 3 роки тому

      Well duh, it's a beta version not a final one.

    • @kingdededelicious
      @kingdededelicious 3 роки тому +5

      I'm still rocking Mojave to this day

  • @rivvvers
    @rivvvers 3 роки тому +413

    I feel like I’m living in an alternative reality as of late

    • @adamm.8498
      @adamm.8498 3 роки тому +30

      It's like a bad nightmare

    • @TheDanielLivingston
      @TheDanielLivingston 3 роки тому +24

      What if we are? What if we’re in some “quantum branch” of reality, where the RNG is cranked up way too high

    • @mereobserver1727
      @mereobserver1727 3 роки тому +19

      Turn on the news, and see Brave New World / 1984 instead. Switch over to WWDC, expecting some relief - but get a comic book instead.

    • @alierengam1749
      @alierengam1749 3 роки тому +1

      ok

    • @Dettankarmen
      @Dettankarmen 3 роки тому +1

      This year just gets better and better

  • @paincreatesfame
    @paincreatesfame 3 роки тому +323

    The whole “two things touching right on the edge” is actually something my graphic design teachers always told me to avoid - they always would call it “kissing” because they’re just barely brushing each other like a light kiss. And that’s a no-go. Either you go in or go home with the touching.

    • @pingozingo
      @pingozingo 3 роки тому +26

      Did they also teach that excessive bevel and emboss effects looks tacky?

    • @paincreatesfame
      @paincreatesfame 3 роки тому +9

      Paul Zach I can recall it being mentioned once or twice, maybe?

    • @ShaqarudenGames
      @ShaqarudenGames 3 роки тому

      I don’t think it’s intentional. I would bet on it getting fixed whether we say anything or not.

    • @windowsfan95
      @windowsfan95 3 роки тому +2

      Aimee Crawford My graphic design teachers said exactly the same thing, so I am wondering who they hired to design this.

    • @AngryApple
      @AngryApple 3 роки тому

      Its propably not fully implemented yet, I think for now it just more of a asset Switch than a real tweaking for the new UI

  • @TastyGuava
    @TastyGuava 3 роки тому +35

    I feel like they could’ve just directly copied iOS icons

  • @jptaylor
    @jptaylor 3 роки тому +14

    Amazing how people constantly need to “fix” things that aren’t broken. Humanity’s biggest flaw.

    • @tenminutetokyo2643
      @tenminutetokyo2643 3 роки тому

      John Taylor Thanks India Inc. They also take over code written by others, paste their names in the source files, then claim they wrote it. These people have no design sense.

  • @para_dies8071
    @para_dies8071 3 роки тому +385

    This version of macOS feels a bit too cartoony, I always liked the "serious" or professional look old macOS versions had idk its a bit hard to explain

    • @kalijasin
      @kalijasin 3 роки тому +37

      “Cartoony” is a good word for this Os.

    • @2by3
      @2by3 3 роки тому +12

      Haha, I was calling it childish, like more your cartoony way.

    • @onometre
      @onometre 3 роки тому +19

      It's windows xp all over again

    • @garageghost6038
      @garageghost6038 3 роки тому +39

      I think the problem is that it looks too much like iOS. It looks too much like a touch screen interface and we all know how horrible those are to use with a mouse (I'm looking at you windows 8)
      Edit: typo

    • @jj-qq8dg
      @jj-qq8dg 3 роки тому +19

      Garage Ghost I agree. I’ve been using macOS as a workstation, and not a “portable” device. I loved that it looked professional and felt that it’s better off as an actual laptop, rather than a mixup between ipad & macbook.

  • @AllUsernamesTaken
    @AllUsernamesTaken 3 роки тому +98

    I already have nostalgia for the 10.10-10.15 interface and it hasn’t even been phased out yet lol

    • @axethepenguin
      @axethepenguin 3 роки тому +1

      @Juliano Lyons-Cayson same although I prefer 10.13 to 10.10 interface in 10.14 they made the os fonts more like iOS and iPadOS, which personally hurt non retina macs alot and it's like they were preparing for big sur especially in Catalina although that just my opinion

  • @benbaert2166
    @benbaert2166 3 роки тому +294

    The new version of MacOS is like the Chinese ripoff of MacOS.

    • @omarsoub_._
      @omarsoub_._ 3 роки тому +6

      without the engrish

    • @vampiro4236
      @vampiro4236 3 роки тому +2

      @Rishab Tirupathi The software is not designed in China.

    • @Ben-rz9cf
      @Ben-rz9cf 3 роки тому +4

      Actually considering that xiaomi and huawei have been stealing from apple's design language for years and they've actually done it pretty well (take MIUI 12 for example which is beautiful) the new version of MacOS looks WORSE than ACTUAL chinese ripoffs of apple. Which is frankly just sad.

    • @tenminutetokyo2643
      @tenminutetokyo2643 3 роки тому

      Ben Baert Or a crappy version of Linux.

    • @PEK-97
      @PEK-97 3 роки тому +1

      To your surprise (or not?) there is a Chinese linux distro that mimicks MacOS: www.deepin.org/en/ Note the most recent version with redesigned icons actually came out BEFORE Big Sur was even revealed 🤔 So MacOS is copying their Chinese ripoff now?

  • @CurveTheRain
    @CurveTheRain 3 роки тому +32

    The icons look like the defaults from a Mac knockoff. Hideous.

  • @user-lt2rw5nr9s
    @user-lt2rw5nr9s 3 роки тому +108

    The battery looks like a cross between Microsoft Word Art and a Chinese knock off of an old iPhone.

    • @wordart_guian
      @wordart_guian 3 роки тому +1

      Don't drag WordArt down with this. It has class.

  • @Narwaro
    @Narwaro 3 роки тому +346

    Steve Jobs would already have absolutely slaughtered everybody on this design team. Its one thing to go for a different style, its another to make it imperfect in every detail, very un-Apple.

    • @litjellyfish
      @litjellyfish 3 роки тому +26

      First. It’s a BETA!
      Second. It’s a BETA
      It’s not imperfect in every little detail. It’s more that it’s not perfect in some details. That for sure will be fixed before the release.

    • @augustogalindo8687
      @augustogalindo8687 3 роки тому +48

      Stefan Holmqvist even if it’s a beta, Steve and Johny wouldn’t have allowed those icons

    • @thevitruvianman9781
      @thevitruvianman9781 3 роки тому +12

      @@augustogalindo8687 Its so easy to say that, quite frankly, we dont know.

    • @MultiRobotnik
      @MultiRobotnik 3 роки тому +10

      If Steve Jobs didn’t turn to alternative medicines that costed him real treatment, he would still be alive.

    • @coregmr
      @coregmr 3 роки тому +2

      A heatsink without a fan, The fuse is not the fuse. You can't tell me that's un-apple!

  • @FranzSarmiento17
    @FranzSarmiento17 3 роки тому +47

    These icons look like they were made by a rip-off company lmao

    • @tenminutetokyo2643
      @tenminutetokyo2643 3 роки тому

      Franz Sarmiento Oh you mean India Inc outsourcing companies.

  • @FF9F00
    @FF9F00 3 роки тому +9

    "Two things are touching that are not supposed to be touching..." - best line ever!

  • @wtfcomments2585
    @wtfcomments2585 3 роки тому +112

    "hey I'm pickle battery icon"

    • @usdevineni007
      @usdevineni007 3 роки тому

      Funniest shit l’ve ever seen

    • @kf4294
      @kf4294 3 роки тому

      Why is it ugly? Because Jonathan Ive is not there anymore.

  • @TurboWafflz
    @TurboWafflz 3 роки тому +273

    Everything about this feels like it should be an April fools joke.

    • @prestonferry
      @prestonferry 3 роки тому +10

      Well they were founded on April Fools, which was April 1st 1977...

    • @Jonascohen2005
      @Jonascohen2005 3 роки тому +20

      Apple really needs a Steve jobs kinda guy. Apple right now does not really feel different then any other company. But that’s my opinion

    • @pastaya
      @pastaya 3 роки тому +1

      its june lol

    • @TomHofmann
      @TomHofmann 3 роки тому +2

      @Smashing That Like Button One would argue the Jony Ive leaving design will take a bit of a dive.

    • @reinoldg
      @reinoldg 3 роки тому +1

      Smashing That Like Button what do you talk about dude? They have release AirPods (which was named the best invention of the decade), Apple Watch, drastically improved their services, lowered the cost of acquisition for almost all products, was the first trillion dollar company, they have invested more in communities than ever before, they are running 100% (and more) on renewable energy, etc. Tim Cook is a great CEO and even Steve would ask him first for advice about every big decision he would take when he was alive and running the company. I truly don’t understand why people say Apple is not the same as before. It is not the same company just because is better actually.

  • @thebassist122
    @thebassist122 3 роки тому +27

    They should create a "classic" mode where macOS10 look and feel can be chosen instead of the new design. Would make everyone happy :)

    • @jonathanmcintosh9896
      @jonathanmcintosh9896 3 роки тому +3

      that's probably what ppl wanted with iOS 7

    • @KSA21Geladettor
      @KSA21Geladettor 3 роки тому +2

      You are great person

    • @superNova5837
      @superNova5837 3 роки тому

      Same here with iOS imagine going from flat clean icons to iOS 6

    • @martian1232
      @martian1232 3 роки тому +1

      Yesss, because now I’m not going to update this freakin’ os

    • @KazunaiOwO
      @KazunaiOwO 3 роки тому

      that would add like 2 gb extra to the update which is huge especially if you dont use it

  • @Beto_Beats
    @Beto_Beats 3 роки тому +74

    The whole os seems less advanced and less professional.

    • @tenminutetokyo2643
      @tenminutetokyo2643 3 роки тому

      Beto Beats Thanks India.

    • @axispro2215
      @axispro2215 3 роки тому

      Exactly thank you

    • @Riasat202
      @Riasat202 3 роки тому +2

      I knew iOS' encroachment into macOS would forever ruin it.

  • @markschwartz9905
    @markschwartz9905 3 роки тому +255

    The battery icon looks like a condom.. not digging this new overall look

    • @jacobanderson9530
      @jacobanderson9530 3 роки тому +6

      make sure to send feedback in the feedback assistant

    • @HaniiPuppy
      @HaniiPuppy 3 роки тому +15

      I was thinking the nub looked more like a nipple.

    • @DanielVlogsAnything
      @DanielVlogsAnything 3 роки тому

      HaniiPuppy I burst out laughing reading that comment! 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

    • @julianmurillo4678
      @julianmurillo4678 3 роки тому +2

      @@jacobanderson9530 "I noticed the battery icon looks like a condom, could you change that please" -To Apple from the Feedback Assistant

    • @lucretius8050
      @lucretius8050 3 роки тому +2

      So Big Sir would have been more fitting?

  • @aldeywahyuputra5719
    @aldeywahyuputra5719 3 роки тому +77

    8:34 Oh my god, those icons AREN'T Even properly centered!

    • @jacobanderson9530
      @jacobanderson9530 3 роки тому +2

      make sure to send feedback in the feedback assistant

    • @JemaKnight
      @JemaKnight 3 роки тому

      This probably hit me harder than anything else in the video tbh

    • @mr.whimsic6902
      @mr.whimsic6902 3 роки тому +2

      and they aren't the same width either...

    • @birdnerd9437
      @birdnerd9437 3 роки тому

      I see I wasn't the only one to notice that.

  • @lahmyaj
    @lahmyaj 3 роки тому +2

    Yeh pretty much agree with you on all that. I was surprised when I saw the WWDC demos that the icons and general UI just seemed a little off Apple’s usual standard.

  • @DezeTimisTim
    @DezeTimisTim 3 роки тому

    Your attention to detail is incredible. I would never ever have noticed the buttons in the photo app are different than the ones in activity monitor. Same goes for the rounded corners when you select things in different menu's.
    I do wholeheartedly agree with your opinion on the FaceTime, iMessage and battery icons.

  • @Windowsfan100
    @Windowsfan100 3 роки тому +72

    It's like they're trying to take the Windows XP icons but with a modern take on them...

  • @bixbabble3935
    @bixbabble3935 3 роки тому +72

    This is what happens when Jonny Ives leaves

    • @Dogmicspane
      @Dogmicspane 3 роки тому +31

      Jony made some dumb design choices in the past, but at least he was consistent.

    • @novkoviix
      @novkoviix 3 роки тому +1

      He was involeved mostly in hardware and iOS design, he didn't design anything in macOS design in the past.

    • @bixbabble3935
      @bixbabble3935 3 роки тому +6

      Filip Novković didn’t he work on Yosemite and beyond?

    • @Dogmicspane
      @Dogmicspane 3 роки тому

      @@novkoviix I was thinking about how you're supposed to charge the Magic Mouse, but yeah, you're right.

  • @neoqueto
    @neoqueto 3 роки тому +3

    macOS Product Manager: So how many Photoshop Layer Style effects do you want to use?
    macOS Lead UI Designer: Yes.

  • @nw4538
    @nw4538 3 роки тому

    I was waiting for someone to talk about this
    Thanks ken

  • @andreechen96
    @andreechen96 3 роки тому +82

    this happens when the chief design forget to leave a note before leaving the company.. 😂😂😂

    • @jacobanderson9530
      @jacobanderson9530 3 роки тому +3

      make sure to send feedback in the feedback assistant

  • @npgy
    @npgy 3 роки тому +153

    Me: Mom can we have battery icon?
    Mom: No we have battery icon at home
    Battery icon at home:

  • @ZacharyMcCoyMD
    @ZacharyMcCoyMD 3 роки тому +2

    I appreciate that you focused a lot on the inconsistencies rather than just complaining about what you didn't like.

  • @hanro50
    @hanro50 3 роки тому +8

    ...this reminds me of Android phones from the days gingerbread was still considered a fresh release of Android...

  • @woohoo2491
    @woohoo2491 3 роки тому +236

    "big sur" sounds like how you make fun of someone calling someone else fat online, I hope 11.1 is called "bro pls"

    • @ambreiaju
      @ambreiaju 3 роки тому +17

      Your pf (profile picture)... KDE Plasma gang rise up.

    • @jonatas.
      @jonatas. 3 роки тому

      Lol true

    • @Locutus
      @Locutus 3 роки тому +2

      I always read it as Big Slur.

    • @JakeSmith-fz9fp
      @JakeSmith-fz9fp 3 роки тому

      @@ambreiaju lol, the exact thing I thought!

    • @usdevineni007
      @usdevineni007 3 роки тому

      Locutus i read it as big slur because its easier

  • @jcfawerd
    @jcfawerd 3 роки тому +114

    The new window title looks like GNOME design coming to macOS

    • @UnrelentingAssault
      @UnrelentingAssault 3 роки тому +22

      That's the first thing that came to mind as well. I personally don't mind GNOME's CSD, but it just seems unnecessarily thick. :/

    • @Fraudjaku
      @Fraudjaku 3 роки тому

      What is gnome

    • @vinny30
      @vinny30 3 роки тому

      Prince Saiyon第7火影 linux thingy

    • @armanelgtron4533
      @armanelgtron4533 3 роки тому +7

      @@Fraudjaku Is Google broken?

    • @jcfawerd
      @jcfawerd 3 роки тому +1

      deadmoose I’m okay with the title bar but icons really bug me

  • @sediew
    @sediew 3 роки тому +2

    You do reviews and criticism right. Saying the good, and saying the bad with constructive arguments.
    I completely agree with: if you have problems, bring the solution.
    Excellent video

  • @manzanaman9488
    @manzanaman9488 3 роки тому

    First time UA-cam has shown me a video fro you. Look forward to checking out more!

  • @highvoltage12v
    @highvoltage12v 3 роки тому +82

    The notification Bell in System Preferences is absolutely hideous.
    Edit: Yes, you mentioned the same thought I had about the bell.
    Some things look like a really bad Linux skin.
    If you use OS 11 in Light mode then look at the forward and back arrows in System Preferences, they look like they blend in, they're missing the rectangle box around the buttons.

    • @gleerty
      @gleerty 3 роки тому

      @Deon Denis Better keep using Linux... You probably also prefer Android...

    • @ambreiaju
      @ambreiaju 3 роки тому

      Your profile picture looks like the battery icon, maybe better than MAC OS big sur.

    • @highvoltage12v
      @highvoltage12v 3 роки тому

      @@ambreiaju it's from IOS5 lol

  • @alolanstarboy
    @alolanstarboy 3 роки тому +56

    I honestly thought the UI on Catalina was just fine. There were still some old "glossy" skeumorphic style icons but overall the style was still clean and up to snuff with modern design sensibilities. It was a pretty nice mix of the two and it looked neat. It really didn't need to be overhauled this hard and especially not with those icons

  • @dylanreichstadt8997
    @dylanreichstadt8997 3 роки тому

    The Messages & FaceTime icons were an eye-sore during the Keynote. Feels less crisp looking and more like Android.
    Great video!

  • @scorebatgaming
    @scorebatgaming 3 роки тому

    I definitely agree with the whole "combining skeumorphism and minimalism" statement. I think a good example of this is Google's material ui in their apps (especially web apps like google calendar and Keep), it's very consistent and balanced, in general flat but still has shading and materials on it. Honestly still opening their apps makes me fascinated by how nice they are to use

  • @mootsym
    @mootsym 3 роки тому +101

    just take me back to Snow Leopard. So stable and so good looking.

    • @asinglefrenchfry
      @asinglefrenchfry 3 роки тому +27

      is snow leopard like the windows 7 of mac

    • @user-dx8br5vb3n
      @user-dx8br5vb3n 3 роки тому +8

      a single french fry Yes lol some people can’t let go of the stainless steel and wood grain

    • @CherryTv_CUP
      @CherryTv_CUP 3 роки тому +4

      dang snow leopard was a very good release so smooth and stable and even ran my mid 2010 macbook pro as cool as ice! even today without a thermal paste replace!

    • @hkja99
      @hkja99 3 роки тому +1

      And me osx tiger. Pretty old school, but I loved it

    • @richierich087
      @richierich087 3 роки тому +6

      Yes, I wish there was a setting in MacOS to set the preferred UI style (for those of us who prefer the early days of the Aqua interface and whatnot).

  • @felixband3000
    @felixband3000 3 роки тому +200

    I don't really care about how it looks, the name is just so weird.
    "What OS do you use?"
    "Big Sur"
    "??"

    • @Tobykaani
      @Tobykaani 3 роки тому +29

      Yeah. I am more of a Linux kind of guy, but Apple's naming scheme is usually pretty neat even though some could argue at times bit cheesy. *cough* *cough* Genius *cough*.
      But that name is straight out of some github repo to somekind of exploit tool to vulnerability.

    • @MyurrDurr
      @MyurrDurr 3 роки тому +5

      I love using Big Sur! :') I really can't take it seriously that much

    • @ukoronje
      @ukoronje 3 роки тому +2

      It’s so funny I laugh everytime I hear it, I love it♥️

    • @d9zirable
      @d9zirable 3 роки тому +8

      BEEG SIR

    • @dinkledankle
      @dinkledankle 3 роки тому +26

      Is anyone here aware Big Sur is an actual place? It isn't ridiculous at all. Mountain lion (lives in mountains), Maverick (lives in mountains), Yosemite (mostly mountains), El Capitan (a mountain), Sierra/High Sierra (more mountains), Mojave (in Cali, has mountains), Catalina (same deal as Mojave) and now Big Sur which is a strip of California coast with, you guessed it, mountains. All of it has to do with mountains. How are mountains ridiculous?

  • @powergear5
    @powergear5 3 роки тому

    Insightful Video, thanks for sharing

  • @accordinglyryan
    @accordinglyryan 3 роки тому

    Through the first half of this video I was like "meh, this is all personal preference" or nitpicks...but when you showed the alignment in the sound preferences
    OH GOD I CAN'T UNSEE IT

  • @garyandresbarba1707
    @garyandresbarba1707 3 роки тому +189

    The absence of Jony Ive is really feeling with macOS 11

    • @ysink
      @ysink 3 роки тому +37

      Trying to do a complete redesign without Jony is, IMO, what has caused these problems

    • @cunnyman
      @cunnyman 3 роки тому +20

      That seems to be the case, huh.
      But not having him around also removed Apple of any restrictions to abide by aesthetics.
      After he was gone, we had seen major overhaul to hardware. I honestly think it's not a coincidence because he's not responsible for just software design.

    • @TheSteveSteele
      @TheSteveSteele 3 роки тому +24

      I don’t know. Ivy was responsible for Yosemite, the ugliest macOS of all time. Bring back Scott Forstall. Yeah, that will never happen.

    • @pnnytx
      @pnnytx 3 роки тому +24

      @@TheSteveSteele IMO Yosemite is the best macOS redesign, from ugly skeuomorphism to flat design

    • @Cobalt985
      @Cobalt985 3 роки тому +1

      pnnytx I think it’s alright but nothing special. I live skeuomorphism and would’ve preferred that look over the 10.11 redesign for sure.
      10.15 looks really nice imo though, just hope they can get that consistency again when 11 actually releases.

  • @moth.monster
    @moth.monster 3 роки тому +30

    They look like an art student trying too hard to practice shading

  • @Danielddiniz
    @Danielddiniz 3 роки тому

    Very nice and constructive criticism. Congratulations Sir! 👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼

  • @LaurenSchraderMusic
    @LaurenSchraderMusic 3 роки тому

    Nice video, definitely subbing :) I really like how they are trying to homogenise their various OS’s, but some of the graphics on Big Sur are definitely all over the place and I hope they get that taken care of before launch

  • @Shadow_Lifeman
    @Shadow_Lifeman 3 роки тому +66

    I really don't like the push to make it look like iOS. Doesn't really effect me since I'm stuck with Mojave, or else I lose a ton of compatibility for my older apps.

    • @RyanZohoury
      @RyanZohoury 3 роки тому +14

      I feel the EXACT same way! Except for the fact that I am still on High Sierra, I feel that the decision to make macOS like iPadOS was a big mistake. They are two distinct systems made for two completely different purposes and interactions!

    • @chidorirasenganz
      @chidorirasenganz 3 роки тому +2

      Ryan Zohoury nah it made perfect sense and I’m glad they made the change. I just wish they didn’t go so skeuomorphic with the icons 😑

    • @litjellyfish
      @litjellyfish 3 роки тому +1

      This push was already started. Have you forgotten the steps. In 2009 there was more stylization. And when moving from cats to landmarks there was again more stylization. Like a mix of current look and iOS.
      problem is not if they make it look like iOS. Problem is the icons that look like nothing else.

    • @litjellyfish
      @litjellyfish 3 роки тому +1

      Ryan Zohoury there is no decision to make them like each other. The navigation and layout is very very different. They are only bringing the visual styling a bit closer together. Which. They have done in phases since the last 5-7 years.

    • @litjellyfish
      @litjellyfish 3 роки тому +1

      chidorirasenganz yes. Why. All will be fine if they just fix those icons.

  • @rafisofyan
    @rafisofyan 3 роки тому +38

    The battery icon looks like something you get from a free icon pack.

    • @kalijasin
      @kalijasin 3 роки тому +1

      It does.

    • @deomkds
      @deomkds 3 роки тому

      Or Android Gingerbread.

    • @MobileDecay
      @MobileDecay 3 роки тому

      Don’t insult free icon packs. 😢

  • @mradford10
    @mradford10 3 роки тому

    Agree 100%... that battery icon leapt out at me also. It’s that bad, I thought it might have just been a placeholder. And yes there’s a few design languages being used throughout and it’s looking a bit confused and awkward. I agree with you, I trust them and they’ll get it right through the coming iterations. It’s just going through some growing pains.

  • @skyegorman1988
    @skyegorman1988 3 роки тому +3

    The gods have answered your prayers, lol, they changed the battery Icon

  • @elementaldraco
    @elementaldraco 3 роки тому +31

    Battery icon is now reminiscent of the shape of baby feeding bottle.

  • @tivatavi
    @tivatavi 3 роки тому +65

    Windows user: *insert James Francos "First time?" meme*

    • @holymoly849
      @holymoly849 3 роки тому +1

      Lol this comment underrated

  • @RirtyDascal
    @RirtyDascal 7 місяців тому

    Now updated to Sonoma and the “View” drop down is still the only one not aligned properly. Thanks a lot for pointing that out Ken, because now I can’t unsee it lol.
    Thanks for what you do brotherman. We appreciate you good sir.
    Edit: Quick correction. The “Window” drop down also does it sometimes depending on what’s on the desktop. If everything is closed, they’re all aligned.

  • @ConnorGriffinMusic
    @ConnorGriffinMusic 3 роки тому

    The difference in alignment is that in previous versions of macOS those dropdowns were aligned with the edge of the button highlight at the top, which made the text out of alignment. The new menus align the TEXT instead, so the checkbox in that one menu offsets it but the text remains aligned.

  • @seankkg
    @seankkg 3 роки тому +19

    There's no way that's the real battery icon... It looks like a joke from 2007...

  • @nikuw
    @nikuw 3 роки тому +94

    I'll miss the older tightly packed, smaller UI elements from our good old friend (mac)OS X. They worked fine on XGA and they're better than anything else at modern resolutions. Too bad Apple jumped on the pixel wasting trend.

    • @OscatA
      @OscatA 3 роки тому +15

      OS X looks better than macOS 11. macOS 11 looks like it should be iPadOS.

    • @RyanZohoury
      @RyanZohoury 3 роки тому +6

      Totally agree but I think that somewhere around how Catalina was already great but Big Sur is way too much!

    • @hikkamorii
      @hikkamorii 3 роки тому +1

      Yeah, and while I get why you may want UI like this on windows(tablets, bad mice and trackpads), on macOS it's just wrong and sad, I hope they will remove that space wasting crap...

    • @aaronsmith927
      @aaronsmith927 3 роки тому

      @@OscatA Because it probably is at the core, it makes sense that their starting point would have been iOS since they are building for ARM.

    • @adaml.5355
      @adaml.5355 Рік тому

      macOS is dead. It’s truly a shit show these days. Terrible user interface. Terrible user experience. No innovation. The Steve Jobs era of macOS was just a different time entirely. So sad.

  • @hussainbharmal6383
    @hussainbharmal6383 3 роки тому +4

    10:00
    "I want to know what you think about Mac OS, Big Sir"
    Well thank you😂

  • @artistatrastornado7890
    @artistatrastornado7890 3 роки тому

    I'm glad someone Made this before, because I didn't want to find something I never think could happen the day I can finally have My Mac back again.

  • @evancrazyerror
    @evancrazyerror 3 роки тому +55

    So after trying to avoid it for years, they managed to have a Windows Vista (Catalina) AND a Windows 8 (Big Sur) release back to back...

    • @IdRatherNotHaveAHandleThankYou
      @IdRatherNotHaveAHandleThankYou 3 роки тому +10

      What's wrong with Catalina? And Big Sur hasn't even been released yet AND is still in development, calm down.

    • @ILoveWomen
      @ILoveWomen 3 роки тому +18

      outernet Catalina is so buggy. My favourite bug is the one where my laptop display doesn’t turn on after going to sleep (backlight on but black screen) and i have to do a hard reset, losing unsaved work. Adobe apps also didn’t work on release, a small Catalina update broke a daemon causing my CPU to spike to constant 75% usage, random massive log files in the system directory bring dropped for no reason, etc.
      Shit makes me almost want to go back to windows. Almost

    • @Jackson-sr7ms
      @Jackson-sr7ms 3 роки тому +3

      Gabe Newell What system are you running it on? Catalina has run flawlessly for me

    • @xalataf3365
      @xalataf3365 3 роки тому +2

      @@IdRatherNotHaveAHandleThankYou what Gabe said and the fact they killed 32 bit app support.

    • @vshnv_c
      @vshnv_c 3 роки тому +2

      Gabe Newell Catalina isnt bad at all. You’re just cynical. Ive been running it with minimum problems on my 5k iMac.

  • @Krysstophe
    @Krysstophe 3 роки тому +16

    I’m glad I’m not the only one, it looks like a slightly ugly jailbreak tweak...

  • @simonb2241
    @simonb2241 3 роки тому +1

    I think that rounding from corners shows that in the September event a new imac comes with bigger screen and rounded corners probably then it looks way smoother and makes More sense

  • @jfmezei
    @jfmezei 3 роки тому

    Reading the comments, someone brought the word "cartoony" and I agree.
    During presentation, when the word "translucent" was brought up, my first reaction was that Jony Ive had not left. So interesting to see people say it woudln't have happend under him when the styles introduced in Big Sur are very much him.
    At one of his last keynotes, Steve Jobs used the expression "Back to Mac". There was huge pushback at the thought of making OS-X like IOS. Now, it has happened.
    I am sticking to High Sierra. (32 bit apps) even if it causes regular crashes on my 2013 trash can due to D300 graphics card.

  • @olek0019
    @olek0019 3 роки тому +105

    Now it's looks more like Linux "MacOS copy" distro than real Mac OS

    • @CasioMaker
      @CasioMaker 3 роки тому +25

      Heh, even copied themes on Linux or elementarOS base design is more consistent than what Apple did here

    • @themadoneplays7842
      @themadoneplays7842 3 роки тому +7

      Yeah but some such distros do give it an effort like elementary OS, I am not a total fan of the OSX aesthetic but elementary is rather nice looking.
      I also like mints efforts too as while in terms of first looks it looks like windows but it marries some of the best parts of OSX and its design language into it, I am a big fan of the mint Y theme, not overly flat and fairly consistent and sure there are a few app icons that stand out a bit on it it does blend together for the most part, even QT apps blend in well given the right settings.

    • @TheRetroGamerBay
      @TheRetroGamerBay 3 роки тому +6

      That's an insult to Linux lol

    • @jacobanderson9530
      @jacobanderson9530 3 роки тому +2

      make sure to send feedback in the feedback assistant

    • @dbzdrag0n
      @dbzdrag0n 3 роки тому +2

      Jacob Anderson you’ve literally spammed this reply on like every comment do you not have anything else to say?

  • @PizzaParkersGarage
    @PizzaParkersGarage 3 роки тому +123

    Welcome to macOS 11: Big Brain

    • @flipperskate6729
      @flipperskate6729 3 роки тому +9

      You have macOS 11 Big Brain Edition and you have macOS 11 Small brain edition

    • @codix__
      @codix__ 3 роки тому

      Apple: It's battery time !

    • @comicsanz97
      @comicsanz97 3 роки тому

      macOS 11 Honda Civic. The same engine, ugly custom body kit.

    • @juliancumming6893
      @juliancumming6893 3 роки тому

      As is the words of Sam Tucker, macOS Mcdonalds

  • @nehikmetse
    @nehikmetse 3 роки тому

    the size of the icons also change when you activate one of the buttons, it is only a couple of pixels however it changes. look at the 3rd button when he clicks the most right button. 8:26

  • @RogerCRocha
    @RogerCRocha 3 роки тому

    For the drop-down menu alignment, a good solution would be to make the top-left edge squared. Then the origin point for all the cascading menus would be aligned.

  • @litjellyfish
    @litjellyfish 3 роки тому +50

    The new shading on icons is just bad. Unbalanced and it feels like a step backwards to what it was 5y ago. But worst.

    • @ArunG273
      @ArunG273 3 роки тому

      Not 5 years. It's like 10+ years back

  • @mohitsingla9263
    @mohitsingla9263 3 роки тому +27

    the pro feel of developer is missing from big sur, it feels kinda childish.

  • @erik-001-
    @erik-001- 3 роки тому +16

    Kid: Mom, can we have Linus Tech Tips at home
    Mom: Son, we have Linus at home
    Linus at home:

    • @enzonolastname1181
      @enzonolastname1181 3 роки тому +3

      Ok

    • @ChenLiYong
      @ChenLiYong 3 роки тому +2

      What’s up with these “we have X at home” meme thing? Looks like unintuitive.

    • @YoungSlim51
      @YoungSlim51 3 роки тому +3

      @@ChenLiYong a lot of people grew up with their parents saying that to them as kids. The simplest things like "Mom can we go to (insert kid's favorite fast food place)?" Mom: "No! We have (the name of the fast food place) at home!". The stuff at home is nothing like the place (even though fast food is trash anyways) and the kid is disappointed because kids want exactly what they want. TBH it's probably much more prevalent of a saying in American culture. Shit i know it from experiencing it in childhood myself. Unfortunately things like this get out to the internet and get beaten to death as memes by people who never even experienced it in childhood and only knew it as a meme or joke. Plus the people that beat it to death are usually unfunny people in the first place and try to supplement that with memes. It was always annoying AF to hear as a kid, but again, that's mostly cause kids want what they want and are usually pretty entitled to begin with. But yeah it was a thing for literal decades before it was a meme.

    • @MobileDecay
      @MobileDecay 3 роки тому +1

      I’m not sure this makes any sense. 🤷🏻‍♂️

  • @samplasion9344
    @samplasion9344 3 роки тому

    4:07 Noooo I didn't notice it yet and you brought it to my attention...!

  • @CWINDOWSsystem32
    @CWINDOWSsystem32 3 роки тому +19

    This reminds me of when Windows 10 was in beta and the default system icons looked like they were clip art. There was a whole meme about the Recycle Bin looking like a kid's drawing...

  • @samic
    @samic 3 роки тому +46

    The battery looks very "Fisher-Price". Overall those icons has a Windows XP feel to them.

    • @TorutheRedFox
      @TorutheRedFox 3 роки тому +1

      I guess that's what they're trying to go for?
      a design that has highlights and shadows to make things pop out from each other (making them easier to discern) but still is otherwise flat?

    • @kalijasin
      @kalijasin 3 роки тому +1

      It does.

    • @thumbwarriordx
      @thumbwarriordx 3 роки тому

      That's actually fine if they'd do it consistently across the whole system.
      But apparently they have issues even being consistent within the same icon.

  • @manish4275
    @manish4275 3 роки тому +6

    Why still use a hard drive for Macintosh icon instead of SSD? Considering all macs use SSD nowadays

    • @bru-ri5es
      @bru-ri5es 3 роки тому

      bro i have a 2010 imac pro and a 2009 macbook cus apple is too expensive but for some reason i have like a $1k gaming setup with a op pc but apple is way more expensive than my op gaming setup so if im not on my pc ill use my 2009 macbook or 2010 imac pro that has a mechanical hard drive lel 🙃 and i am messaging on my pc so i is forced to use low quality emojis that look like the new battery icon in mac os big sur

    • @kartoffelstranger9187
      @kartoffelstranger9187 3 роки тому

      Same reason the save button is a floppy disk icon~

    • @Photosounder
      @Photosounder 3 роки тому

      Because we know what harddrives look like, SSDs on the other hand are either a smooth rectangle or a chip.

  • @jsigner
    @jsigner 3 роки тому +1

    Couldn’t agree more with you!! Buttons touching, too much rounded corners, THICK menu bars... UGH

  • @nickarchiver52
    @nickarchiver52 3 роки тому +19

    macOS Big Sur sounds like an out of place name for macOS

  • @LloydLynx
    @LloydLynx 3 роки тому +32

    They're making it look like Gnome 3.

    • @arthemis1039
      @arthemis1039 3 роки тому +6

      Come on Gnome 3 is pretty nice now. They fixed most of the mess

    • @ezmod0
      @ezmod0 3 роки тому +4

      come on gnome 3 theme looks better than this cartoony mess

    • @s9209122222
      @s9209122222 3 роки тому +1

      It is what I'm thinking. However, Gnome3 looks much better with this kind of design, Mac does it wrong.

    • @MJ-uk6lu
      @MJ-uk6lu 3 роки тому

      @@arthemis1039 It still feels like it was made for tablets instead of desktops and laptops.

  • @tikycz8261
    @tikycz8261 3 роки тому

    I honestly rly love the look of the Redesign battery and all apps

  • @gavinhamrick1660
    @gavinhamrick1660 3 роки тому

    Around 8:32, you can tell, if you pay attention to it, that some of the icons for navigating Finder are off-center in their boxes when he goes over them.

  • @AnthonyThomas_Ant
    @AnthonyThomas_Ant 3 роки тому +10

    The battery graphic reminds me of when I was learning to create web graphics in the early 2000s.

  • @RyanZohoury
    @RyanZohoury 3 роки тому +17

    I’ve seen a few tweets from people who hate this redesign like me but I’m glad to see some UA-camrs with the same views posting content about this as well. Really hope Apple will correct what they have messed up.

    • @techied
      @techied 3 роки тому +3

      Nah they'll probably double down and refuse to listen to people.

    • @RyanZohoury
      @RyanZohoury 3 роки тому +1

      I know Apple would never go back after unveiling this, but I hope they make some changes to make it more desktop-like instead of iPad-like. I have to admit that standardizing some of their designs isn’t a bad thing but I don’t like the implementation as a whole.

  • @FaithAng
    @FaithAng 3 роки тому

    I think overall it looks beautiful and goes well with the current iPadOS (and iOS?) design language. Thank you for pointing out those subtle spacing and consistency issues in the beta - I would have had a hard time noticing them, and I’m a designer myself! Looking forward to the public release. I love UI revamps just because they always feel so fresh and new! ✨

  • @ZaidanMhmood
    @ZaidanMhmood 3 роки тому

    Big like. You know how to explain what's really wrong with the design that all of us feel deep down but can't get to what is it.

  • @raider4394
    @raider4394 3 роки тому +20

    Mid 2012 13" Unibody User here. Can't say I'm too heartbroken about my Mac being killed off. I guess I'll update when DosDude pulls through I'll update.

    • @shockwaveexp3465
      @shockwaveexp3465 3 роки тому

      Drew dosdude1 has already said that he doubts hardware graphics acceleration will ever come to Macs that have AMD Radeon 5000 or 6000 GPUs. The best you can do is replace the GPU with a Nvidia card, as it uses notebook MXM cards. Though that would require extensive disassembly and flashing the replacement card to work.

    • @kalijasin
      @kalijasin 3 роки тому

      Programmed obsolescence.

  • @mdukasa
    @mdukasa 3 роки тому +26

    Clearly they didn't want to put this on iOS this year. The press could've gone crazy!

  • @elifarmer3815
    @elifarmer3815 3 роки тому

    I think one of the biggest problems with the icons is a combination of the excessive shadows (Not to mention inconsistent between different apps), the gradient combined with the large rounded corners, and the lack of a color scheme between the old and new icons, specifically the fact that the gradients in the background of the new icons have a much higher contrast than before. I think that these will be tweaked in upcoming updates to fix some of this.

  • @matiasmorandi9033
    @matiasmorandi9033 3 роки тому

    great analysis

  • @loganlafont1091
    @loganlafont1091 3 роки тому +13

    Rounding corners? More like cutting corners.

  • @dragonv4953
    @dragonv4953 3 роки тому +18

    Apple changes the market...
    *and with this new design I'm scared of that.*

  • @The-Drone-Hobbyist
    @The-Drone-Hobbyist 3 роки тому

    They fixed the battery icon. I am super glad the did. :)

  • @iFuff
    @iFuff 3 роки тому

    There is a slight distinction of the tab bar styles you mentioned:
    The Photos tab bar gives a different view over the same data, while the activity monitor tabs introduce some new data for display, hence the distinction. But there is also a third style in the system settings. So basically, it's a mess!