MY FAVORITE FILTER PIPES JUST GOT BETTER! + A Very Special CO2 Diffuser!
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- Опубліковано 21 лют 2022
- Are you team glass lily pipes or team neo flow? 😁
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Are you team glass lily pipes or team neo flow? 😁 The like button is not made from glass, so you can smash it really hard!
I´d like to be neo flow but those are not sold in my country 😔
After breaking my ADA Diffusor lately I will stick to metal in the future, as plastic doesnt really look all that good on ADA tanks in my opinion 😅
Neo rocks
@@Tom_Dienemann yeah I avoid glass parts in my aquarium
The glass looks a little better, but the neo flow just packs in so many features and flexibility for the same price point! It's also the only skimmer I've found that won't murder my small fish. Perfect for my 60p, but not sure how the neo flow would handle a larger aquarium though.
I haven't had an aquarium for about 15 years and between you and father fish, I'm inspired to create an aquascape for the first time. I'm on a tight budget so trying make a setup as cheap as possible and your videos are ruining that for me. Today I purchased these lily pipes and still don't have an aquarium setup lol.
I'm not mad 😅
Worth the wait to slowly get quality pieces together. I couldn't afford the chihiros so I had a custom LED from Make My Led in Australia. Worth having a look at what they do. You get to choose from 3 colour spectrum and the dispersion angle of the LEDs for the cost of a chihiros A series.
Keep up the great content 👏
When you first showed neo flow it interested me. Only this problem with the skimmer discouraged me. When I see now they fixed it and added the possibility to install a diffuser convinces me to check it out. Thanks for the video for sure.
I'm convinced now. I'll be buying the neo flow soon. Thanks for the review!
Super cool! Scaping a new tank this week. This is definitely gonna be a must buy!
Just picked up one of these because of your review. It looks awesome can't wait to try it out
big shallow looking very good too
I like the idea of the new neo flow being plastic. I can be tough on glass and here is a fix. Let’s see how clear they stay with age . This was an interesting video highlighting the comparison of old to new. Thanks !
Whew! I was just about to buy a second one for my 50p. Good thing you released this video. Im going to wait for my lfs to have this available. I think that built in diffusuer is a great idea. I dont like seeing alot of contraptions inside my tanks. Thats why i try to use in-lines for most of them.
Thx for a great review of the Neo - Just made an order for replacement of lily pipes
I bought the neo flow and really struggle with the skimmer but the new version seems much better. I like the new inlet too as I have shrimp in my tanks and currently have a stainless steel mesh cover over the inlet. Might need to buy one of those 🙂
I'm very happy with the older version of the pipes but now I want to try these for my other tank! By the way, the Big Shallow is looking so sick. The plants are lush and looking super healthy! I hope to have something similar in my living room one day. :)
Yeah, indeed, it's awesome.
I have version 1 and what I found solved a lot of the issues was preventing the skimmer from moving. I used a small piece of plastic between the skimmer and the pipe it sits on to hold the skimmer in a fixed position. Seemed to solve the majority of the issues where it wouldn't skim and as I have an ATO it's not affected by water level.
Hi, also have same issue with version 1 L size. Can you share a picture of what you change to fix it. Thanks
The addition of the diffuser is very cool! I honestly don't want to add a diffuser to my pipes so something like this would be useful!
im gona stick with my qanvee inline difuser. it dosnt affect the flow..
what im hoping for is an adjustable tip. where you can point it up or down left and right..
last.. finally the pipes are longer.. and the skimmee too. nice.
Gut erklärt 👍, vielen dank fürs Video ☺️
A correctly positioned outflow lily pipe will create a vortex and basically act as a skimmer.
Great video MJ. I bought the aquatio products after seeing your last video and am very satisfied with them. I don’t really have a problem with the skimmer - it seems to work but I also have a lot of floating plants so I don’t see a film ever.
I’ve had my eye on getting the original set for a while, the new version looks even better.
Definitely go for the V2 👍🏻
I'll think for mine opion these new outflow with the diffusor inside is a excellent method to show less stuff inside the aquarium and easy cleaning. But will it do the work on big tanks? 😉👍
It's a very beautiful aquarium tank.
Really have given up on buying anymore glass since I have managed to break everything including a few replacements , @ least I still have 1 piece left from my once prized ADA set...it's the drop checker , which I also dropped but that time I got lucky 😱 Like In the last comment I mentioned having a little compulsion problem 😏 Now I enjoy being practical, so I will be ordering these right away !! 2nd thought Mark I better order 2 💚💙
I've been using the version 2 neo flow skimmer for over a month now and it really solves the problems that the previous skimmer had especially if the water level is much higher than the skimmer pipe.
Will the new Ver. 2 skimmer fit the Ver. 1 Neo Flow Premium? Since the outflow pipe is a bit shorter. Wondering if I should get the entire Ver. 2 set or just the separated parts that I'm missing.
@@chaidiamonds Yes it will fit just get the proper size M or L depending on the current one you have. I just changed the skimmer part as they sell it separately.
Never broke glass pipes but I'm switching my glass dymax lily pipes to neos in my 21 gallon (quite shallow) long, Im running an oase biomaster thermo 350 and the only glass lily pipes that fit it have an inflow pipe that is much too long for my tank. I like that neos can be cut to size.
I need this for my new setup
I wish they add the shrimp safe inlet in the premium since many tanks have nano shrimp in them
TOP...Good job NEO🔝🔝🔝
Good filter pipes 👍🏻
Great video MJ! The V2 pipes are a much needed improvement on an already great product 👌 I am very happy with mine
Totally agree!
I am in the US. Where do you purchase your version 2? I have been looking everywhere
@@lanbermejo5360 In case you have not found a vendor yet, I ordered a set from RAD Aquatic Design in BC Canada. There should be no problem shipping to US.
@@lanbermejo5360 I recently ordered the V2 from RAD aquatics as Giles said. They arrived in Australia in a couple of weeks, so the US should be easy peasy as far as shipping goes.
Glad they made the clamps thicker, both of mine cracked.
Thanks voor de video MJ, ik ben nu team lily pipe maar ben zeer te spreken over de inline diffusor! Minder hardware in beeld op deze manier! Bestelling is geplaatst en laten we eens kijken wat het doet!
Hello, I recently bought the V2 of these Lilly Pipes, I'm wating until the Dark SM ends and put it. I'm quite surprised that they did this new invention. 13:22. Really nice cats there ;)
I prefer inox pipe and for Co2 I prefer inox too ^^ (chihiros for me )
I will definitly get these to try the next time I break my glass lilypipes 😆
Good to be able to hide the diffuser.👍
After this time running the new diffuser, what is your opinion? I have the JBL Proflora Inline, and I am considering changing to this new one from NEO, because I already have the pipes from them.
Thanks for the video Mark! I’ve been wanting to switch from hob to canister filter on my 29g only problem is I have a glass lid which stops me from being able to have my inflow and outflow hanging off the sides of the tank. I’d remove the lid but I have 2 young children and don’t want to find anything that shouldn’t be in the tank lol
The glass lid covers the entire surface of the tank?
We just bought a glass jet pipe for even more flow, in about a month we'll have 30+ kuhli loaches and hillstream loaches in a river aquarium. We also have the oase biomaster with a heater inside the cannister!! :)
I love lilly pipes!!
I have no skimmer and no bio film / oil looking stuff, I think the trick is to have as much plants as possible and a big filter.
Please on your next experiment tanks do a tank coverd with gladrap (to reduce oxygen exchange) vs a no co2 I am curious if it will perform better as there is more co2 between water and the gladrap creating a kind of a co2 reactor tipe thing
Glass/acrylic lily pipes are beautiful to look at at first, and then they goes dirty very quick. I then use stainless lily pipes, and those pipes hide the brownish stain inside. I really love the look of the glass lily pipes, but I can't stand cleaning them too often, any tips & trick?
Great video. Why all the padding under the filter? Just curious
Love the integrated CO2 Diffuser! Any Info an availability in Germany or the Netherlands?
so what do you use for oxygen for the tank?
I'm confused in what to get , will the medium or large one fit my sunsun 603b filter pipes.
Does using the CO2 Mixer with the surface skimmer work? Doesn't a bulk of the CO2 shoot straight out of the skimmer? I currently have the set but have not been using the skimmer for that reason
hello MJ i have a question for you about these lily pipes i was looking at getting the new Aquario Premium Neo Flow Ver.2 for my biomaster 250 thermo i am using the pipes that come with it at present what size do i need to get so i can just swap out the inlet and outlet and still use the flexi tubing the bio master came with ? it comes in a med and large 13mm and 17mm hope you can help as i am a little confused in which one i need thanks😂
How is new aquario now? Is the skimmer good? And how about the staining?
Thanks! :)
I'm getting ready to set up old 55gallon tanks that had HOB filters in the 90s. Really liking the aesthetics of something like this with a canister filter, but then I hear bad things about them?
Hey brother, love all of the videos that you have been cranking out I have a question for you. What kind of heater do you use on your setups? I have a 60 gallon that I plan do one of your Dutch stylists. You’ve really inspired me over the years. Also what size tank for my co2 should I get and what settings do you recommend?
Hey Anthony! I have the heaters inside the filters (Oase Biomaster & Filtosmart Thermo) and on the small tanks I use a dennerle nano heater. For a 60 gallon I would get a 2kg CO2 cylinder.
Will that diffuser work with DIY CO2 ?
Well Shit..I am collecting part for mt 1st ever Aquascape ( reef guy here ) and I bought the V1 off your recommendation/review. still new in the box. I can use a ATO so hopefully I get the good skimmer action.
Thanks for all the vids brother I quite like them ,one of a few FW peeps I trust.
BIG shallow has changed BIG time 👍
Since you have a canister filter anyway, whats the advantage of having the diffuser on the neo output vs an inline diffuser? Also, regarding your drop checker, is it better to place lower (as you did) or higher? Why?
I think the main advantage of the neo diffuser vs a regular inline diffuser is just less change of leaking. With the inline diffuser you have to make 2 cuts in your outflow hose, and those connections can always start leaking.
For the drop checker I think it doesn't matter so much if it's higher or lower
kde kupim ten neoflow inlet ?
Thanks for clearing up two questions I had in my head the past days
1. What is that stuff floating on my water surface
2. Why has nobody put a diffuser in the outflow yet?
😂😂👍🏿
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How do you have bubbles everywhere from your substrate?
How big in cm is neo holder, i want sizes for hole to my glass cover. Thanks
This type of skimmer is very good.
Because now, I don't worry about any shrimps or fishes that sucked in to skimmer.
As you know, skimmer devices sucked in shrimps and small fishes.
Can the new outflow surface skimmer be attached to the old outflow pipe ?
Yep! that's possible!
Are the mixers not for sell yet. Can't seem to find them .us
how did your opinion on diffuser done dissolving co2? and I am curious if you have problems with the skimmer, many people complain that it cannot adjust correctly.
The diffusor works well, but I prefer a normal in-line diffuser. With the second version I don't have any issues with the skimmer
@@MJAquascaping thanks 👍
I run these on my scapes, not had chance to try the inline Co2 yet as I currently use Co2 art inline diffusers.
The version 2 skimmer is miles better and I’m no longer having to constantly fiddle, adjusting the skimmer neck.
Still not a fan of having the skimmer on the outflow as I have to manually remove old leaf matter which is a pain but this skimmer deals with biofilm break up well.
The clamps look a million times stronger and I’ve also broke a couple of mark 1 clamps by over tightening.
Word of warning, don’t put these pipes or any parts in hot water to clean them 🤣🤣🤣 I did and I’ve melted the shrimp guard and skimmer pipe, it even made the pipes bend like a banana 🤣🤣🤣.
😂😂
Will the new Ver. 2 skimmer fit the Ver. 1 Neo Flow Premium? Since the outflow pipe is a bit shorter. Wondering if I should get the entire Ver. 2 set or just the separated parts that I'm missing.
@@chaidiamonds The version 1 and 2 pipes are the same diameter depending on your own choice of either 12/16 M or 16/22 L, so when you buy the V2 skimmer it comes with a new elbow onwards etc.
Go check out Horizon Aquatics shop and search ‘Aqua rio skimmer’
@Slinkyscapes Yeah, but I've noticed the main outflow tube is shorter on the V1. Is this still going to work with the longer skimmer? Need to go deeper in the clamps.
@@chaidiamonds depends if you’ve cut your pipes down, if not you can just reverse them or if you have then you’ll need new ones, I didn’t buy new ones and just placed the V2 skimmer on my V1 pipes.
Keep in mind the deeper you go with the outflow nozzel the less surface movement you get, less movement, less gas exchange.
This is why I just don’t like the skimmer on the outflow, if it’s on the inflow you get rid of bio film AND debris, as well as the skimmer is set once set up, the outflow can be altered and twisted and turned without worry of a finicky skimmer.
Hi I use the ver1 but updated to ver2 skimmer for the same reason you pointed out however very disappointed with the clamp bridge & shrimp guard being a little delicate I have broken 3 bridges 1 guard
Usually when I have removed them to clean, have them on a oase filosmart 100 thermo twist to release the hoses however the filter placement does not help
I will upgrade further once again I like the minimalist approach to Co 2 diffusion and heavier bridge arrangement
Sorry to hear that
@@MJAquascaping keep up the good work m8
Will the new Ver. 2 skimmer fit the Ver. 1 Neo Flow Premium? Since the outflow pipe is a bit shorter. Wondering if I should get the entire Ver. 2 set or just the separated parts that I'm missing.
@@chaidiamonds yes I used the ver2 skimmer on the ver1 pipe work with no mods however the pipe is as low in the clamp as it could be
Technical question, I know you use the Oase Biomaster 850.. this one comes with tubes at 16mm.. when I looked the Neo flow.. these come in two sizes.. 13 mm and 17 mm how did you solve the connection to the Biomaster?
The 16mm tubes fit easily on the 17mm neo flow 😊
On the surface, its actually a biofilm of bacteria. People frequently mistake this for oil, but if you can break it into pieces, its not oil.
what are the carpet plants on the big shallow?
Glossostigma 😊
interesting that the diffuser didn't change much ...
Great video an very usefull info. is there an (online) shop in NL of BE where they have the Neo Mixer? Am planning to buy the Neo Flow, that one I can find online. But the mixer isn't available yet?
Not for sale anywhere just yet. I think it should be in shops at the end of April
How come the skimmer is on the outlet and not the inlet side?
Surely this means it spits everything back into your tank….am I missing something?
I ordered also this Ver.2, having now for 2 months. But still struggling a lot with the skimmer. sometimes its working for days, but then its just sliding down...
Hi! How do you feel about this set now?
Where can you get v2 in the US? Also what's the maximum glass thickness for these? My tank has 3/4" ( 19mm ) thick glass.
Not sure where you can get it in the US. Max glass thickness is 12mm unfortunately
That film is a "bio-film", or basically huge bacteria colonies.... And having a still surface is bad in general, the surface is basically the only way in for oxygen, and out for co2.. So by constantly recirculate the surface you actually increase the effective surface area of your aquarium. Circulating the surface is the most important, and then getting that mixed into the rest of the aquarium...So filter returns that spreads as much all over the surface is the best....
Seem a good set, but my issue is that I can't order it anywhere... All the shops in the NL doesn't have the newer version and even greenaqua doesn't have it in stock...
How do you find with them getting dirty? I can't decide between these and stainless
They get dirty quite quickly, but unlike glass you don't have to remove them in order to clean them. You can just remove the small parts and run a pipe brush through it while it's still attached to the glass.
Will the new Ver. 2 skimmer fit the Ver. 1 Neo Flow Premium? Since the outflow pipe is a bit shorter. Wondering if I should get the entire Ver. 2 set or just the separated parts that I'm missing.
Yeah I managed to fit the new skimmer on the V1 in the big shallow. I just had to remove the clamp so the outflow sits a bit deeper.
@@MJAquascaping So basically I only need to buy the new skimmer, and will I be able to use the clamp?
The V2 set does not come with the shrimp inlet?
i want the neo mixer, but cant find a website to buy it anywhere
I think it's not available for sale yet, but should be soon! Keep an eye on the Green Aqua website.
I have the version 1 and when I bought it I pushed the skimmer pipe attachment too far in and it killed my pump. Just before I killed another one I noticed what the problem was. It’s like putting your finger in front of the outflow, my pump makes the same sound in the two occasions. I still use it but it’s skimming nothing because the pipe attachment is further up now.
Hmm that's strange.. so you think it's too much resistance for your filter? Which filter do you have btw?
Yes definetly, I have a sunsun filter and the one that almost broke has been running for almost half a year now with no noise.
I red some review about this Aquario neo flow..they told after awhile the pipe will be white.. not clear anymore.. mybe because they easy to scratches
I have the V1 for almost a year now, and yes they do scratch a little, but they are still very clear and not white at all.
how do you clean the aquario neo co2 diffuser, can you make a video on that please?
I basically just soak it in bleach for 10 minutes while the CO2 is still running. Then rinse and it's done
@@MJAquascaping okay thanks 👍
Did you know that in Poland they sell a supposedly new version but poorer with some elements that you have?
Really? Got a link?
Where can I get the new Version 2?
Is it already out in EU?
Need it for a new project.
Yep from Green Aqua!
Estaría genial que un día enseñaras que comen todos tus peces, creo que no tienes un video así, y si lo tienes me podrías decir donde? Gracias!!
Could we get an update? I've been rescuing bad things about the shrimp safe inlet. It slows down flow too much and it cracks. Do you have any insight about these issues?
Did you find out any more information? I’m about to buy this haha
hey where did you buy all these stuff? couldnt see anywere to buy on their website
This was a gift from Aquario! You can buy it on the website from green aqua
Which light are you using on the tank?
I'm not sure which tank you mean so on the big shallow tank I have the Skylight hyperspot. On the 70 liter scapers tank I have the Chihiros WRGB2 Pro
These only work on rimless aquariums?
If you can fit these pipes through the lid of your aquarium they will work as well!
Where to purchase the new version of neo CO2 mixer and inlet ? I can't seem to get it in Europe.
Have you checked the green aqua shop?
@@MJAquascaping thank you for your reply. I only found the new inlet but there is no search for the Co2 relievers. Green Aqua has replied and told me it won't be available until 2 months time😭
possible to know if you had to increase co2 bubbles?
I didn't have to increase it 😊
@@MJAquascaping thanks :)
have you ever tried the twinstar reactor?
The in-line diffuser seems to be really small!
Will be enough for 2 bubbles/second?
Yeah that's basically what I'm running in the 70L as well 2bps
@@MJAquascaping 👍Thank you!
I’ve tried it in the meanwhile and I can confirm !
What happens to the waste the skimmer picks up?
Just get's blown into the tank
Hi MJ, where did you buy the neo mixer from?
I’m having trouble finding it online
I got it as a gift from Aquario, I think it's not for sale anywhere yet, I would keep an eye on the Green Aqua website.
@@MJAquascaping thanks for the info and for the great videos you post :)
please tell me which one is the best settings of wrgb2 for the best grow plant?❤️
I always have the colors of WRGB2 on the same % and my plants grow like crazy! With the WRGB2 Pro it's a bit different though Red 46% Green 80% Blue 64% and White 53%
@@MJAquascaping on wrgb2 all colors 100%?❤️ my settings now is Red 90% Blue 85% Green 35% its normal?
@@MJAquascaping how about the settings for tank with red plants and wrgb2 slim version above? Thanks
Aquario should give you a comission. Due to this video I just bought a set for my tank. xD
I've been using the original one for a while now myself. Over time the clarity of the pipes has faded and become more milky. Have you had a similar issue, and if so, do you know of a solution to prevent it? Thanks for your videos!
Yeah same here... I stopped using them. I'm back to glass lily pipes now
@@MJAquascaping Any suggestion for glass lilly pipe that's reduces the flow rate outlet as Aquario neo premium ?
@@loranseis300 Have you searched for a glass “spin” pipe?
@@MJAquascaping Yea but was not sure about it .
Do you think it’s best choice to reduce the flow rat as neo was doing ? 🤔
Mark did you get better results with CO2 diffusion with that neo flow/mixer/flow?
Results where pretty much the same
@@MJAquascaping Thanks!
@MJ Aquascaping Is the diffuser easy to clean?
Hoi,
Waar kan ik de 2e versie bestellen?
Op de website van Green Aqua!
0:45 I want to know what kind of product back screen and lighting is in the fish tank at the beginning of the video.
The back screen of the shallow tank is just very cheap window foil that you can buy in the hardware store. The light is the Skylight Hyperspot L
@@MJAquascaping thank you
your tank very very butiful
Symmetrical day today 22.02.2022 :)
HI MJ, where did you got the Neo Mixer ? Did you order it directly from Aquario or you found a store somewhere in Europe?
Hey! It was a gift from Aquario, I don't think it's for sale anywhere just yet, but keep an eye on the Green Aqua website!
@@MJAquascaping Thanks man!