Tariq Ramadan | Moral Shortcomings, State Witch-hunt & Political Islam | BB
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- Опубліковано 14 жов 2024
- In the opening episode of Blood Brothers Podcast season 3, Dilly Hussain spoke with the prominent Swiss Muslim academic and thinker, Dr Tariq Ramadan. #BloodBrothersBodcast #Metoo #TariqRamadan
Topics of discussion include:
The multiple ongoing rape cases against Tariq Ramadan. Background, facts, and fiction.
The French establishment vs Tariq Ramadan. A witch-hunt by the media and senior politicians.
Reflections in prison, jail stories, and reconnecting with the Quran.
Impact of rape allegations and extramarital affairs on family, marriage, and academic peers.
The Arab Spring and the future of political Islam in the Muslim-majority world.
The roll of the UAE and the Zionist lobby in stoking Islamophobic witch-hunts of Muslim influentials in Europe.
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3:34 allegations
13:15 political agenda
17:26 why are you targeted when your Muslim critics say you are a sellout
22:04 why are you more of a threat than violent Islamists
25:37 Zionist agenda?
32:06 how to deal with ethical failures of public Muslim figures
39:00 personal experience
45:00 legal strategy
47:55 judicial impropriety against Dr. Ramadan
(Sorry forgot to keep adding, leave a comment I’ll edit it in)
1:26:19 uae hunting Muslims and fueling Islamophobia
1:38:36 personal worship vs societal justice
1:43:17 bail conditions
1:45:42 impacts on marriage
Where's the part where he addresses having consensual extramarital sex with those women?
Im french muslim .
Guys, this guy is know to be a deviant muslim . BECAREFUL .
HIS KNOW TO BE UPON THE WAY OF THE IKHWAN (the deviant sect) . Many french muslims can confirm this .
(Sorry for my bad english)
May Allah guide us ! And guide him !
This was a really beneficial interview. Good work to 5Pillars for letting Dr. Tariq present his side on all this, and well done to Dr. Tariq for being so honest and humble about his shortcomings.
Shortcomings? I didn't hear any of that.
A poignant conversation with an extraordinary mind. This man posseses an extraordinary vision and intellect and I find his own perspective and introspection on what has happened to be inspiring. Allah tests this he loves and perhaps these are good signs.
This might be the ever episode of the blood brothers podcast!
Although I don’t agree with everything he has done, I have been a fan of Tariq Ramadan’s work since I was 16 and really connected with his message. Hearing him discuss the loneliness and vulnerability he had while lecturing opened my heart up to his side of the story- no one discusses the emotional turmoil one experiences as someone of religious leadership and how that can negatively affect someone’s mental health. I commend him for his honesty
Thank you for giving brother Tariq a platform to tell his side of the story.
Allahuakbar! Tariq Ramadan has been one of my greatest inspirations during my younger years. He’s disappeared from view since what the French government has done to him (the age old deception of women), thanks so much for bringing him back!!!
@@anshuraj4277Still better than being a degenerate lgbtq wokist
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As salaamu alaykum brothers, sisters, friends and foes.
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Jazakallah khayran.
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i watched the whole thing. It was refreshing to hear the wise words of Shaikh Tariq. I always respected him even after the case against him. I believe even the best of us may find ourselves in a vulnerable position
Respect for having Prof Tariq Ramadan on. Haven’t heard from him in a while
JazakAllah khair Dilly Hussein for holding this conversation with Sheikh Tariq Ramadan. May Allah forgive Sheikh Tariq Ramadan’s past mistakes, be pleased with him and raise his rank. I used to love listening to him. It’s shame we missed him for so many years. May Allah grant him good health and preserve him. Ameen!
he committed adultery which is punishable by death nothing more nothing less
Tariq Ramadan's clarity, vision and analysis is as always profound and necessary. It's about the argument and message, not the one making them.
Thank you for this video because i usted to enjoy looking at Tarik debates as i was researching islam and was so sad to see when they jailed him. So it is very good to see he is well. Allhamdullilah i remember reading a book by his father or grandfather speaking about the leaders being possessed by jins. I can't remember the name of the book.
I’m so impressed with Dilly’s questions. Gutsy and not excusing any behavior. Props to Ramadan for being more honest as time goes by.
Excellent conversation. We all make errors, but what we derive from these is the most important things. His recognition that at times he had focused too much on political activism and not spiritual activism is very honest and probably fair.
Also his comments about being isolated and lonely as a speaker were enlightening and should be a reminder we should have compassion for all our brothers and sisters.
Loved this podcast, much needed! I was inspired by Tariq Ramadans writing in my teens and glad i kept his books on my shelf during his difficult moments. Thank you 5pillars more of these types of conversation that are so important for us. Great work Dilly! ✊
Very moving, and illuminating discussion. It's humbling to hear the neglect of the essence of Islam : The absence of Tasawwuf in the respected Professor TR and the Islamic movement in general. I've always, wondered why the Arabic world in general is bereft of spiritualality. Weather it be MB, Hamas or Saudi Wahabism and it's tentacles spread around the world.
I am so glad Khalid Abdul Fadl and Talal Asad and John Esposito all called you. I have their books in my library . May Allah bless you and protect you brother.
By the way 16 posts , all negative and scathing are by one person. He must have said some truths to get so much angst! May Allah guide us all to truth.
Hopefully, Dilly can get them on the podcast 🙏
@@KickingArtslol
@@KickingArts i want dilly inside of me
Looking forward to this one Insha'Allah.
Can't wait to watch this inshallah.
As a Frenchman, I thank the brother whom I don't really know (I'm a bit ignorant of all British personalities, really sorry!) for allowing Tariq Ramadan to express himself, the points and counter-points he has raised made it possible to have a great conversation and to dig deeper into the matter, which is what our brother Ramadan wanted, I guess.
God bless them both for their work!
He seems so heartbroken. Allah protect him
I was just doing some research about Tariq Ramadhan last night, lo and behold. Mashaallah.
Oh wow Subhanallah. This is going to be interesting.
Salaam Alaykum Tariq Ramadan
I am a long time fan of Professor Tariq Ramadan.I wish him good luck ! The world needs his sharp intellect and vision.
mashllah habibi i thin kthe same inshallah
on walladi brotha he shall be released shortly mashallah
Tariq Ramadan is more than the recent cases against him. I feel we shouldn't let the cases define him as such. He has offered and still offers more for those of us in Europe/ the West in particular and it's on us to not let his work and contributions get sidelined.
Miss brother Tariq intellectual precence, Thanks 5pillars for the platform and the opportunity to hear the other side of the story.
Talking about 'State witch-hunts' and 'Political Islam', 5pillars needs to cover Türkiye as a case study... it can only be ignored for so long
Dr Tariq Ramadan's vision on education being the way forward for the Ummah, building a generation from the masses, is what needs greater attention.
1:19:30
The portrayal of this struggle between educating the masses and seizing power for political power has and is still evident in Turkiye.
The AKP are the political Islamists who only use Islam for their political objectives while carrying out a witch-hunt on the Hizmet Movement (7+ years currently), a movement that has its focus on education in both Turkey (not anymore) and abroad (over 140+ countries).
I really can't fathom how 5pillars is not mentioning or covering this ongoing tyranny in Turkey whilst covering everything possible else around it.
On top of that, you posit a 'military coup' as a solution. If you're comfortable with this notion, then you have cover the staged coup in Turkey. Properly.
1:20:55 Dr Tariq here *indirectly says that the Hizmet movement was doing the right thing, playing the 'long game', while are AKP were in the wrong.
Talking about the tyranny of the gulf states and others, but not justly criticising Erdogan and AKP is not journalism. You need to call out these tyrants as much you do with the bootlickers and tyrants of the West.
Stick to your word and carry out your journalism with justice.
Integration, not assimilation. - M.Fethullah Gulen. You need to have an interview with him Dilly.
@@unais.alhilal he wouldn’t appear 😂
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I have been a long-time fan of Tariq Ramadan, always enjoying his speeches and debates. I regularly check UA-cam for his new material, and I'm really glad I found this
Jazzak Allah for bringing him he has to humble
I fee Brother Dilly Hussain needs to take Dr Tariqs role and proceed with this revival.
En France 🇫🇷 il aurait jamais pu s exprimer de la sorte !!! Quel homme formidable
May Allah Accept your works, and make it a means of acceptance and Guidance for the Ummah!
His thoughts are great and courageous and how we can assert out islamic value wd our nationality. This is applicable to indian muslims as well.
Hence he became the target of western ,zionist and other powers.
May Allah swt help him
Best interview you have done so far. And it was super beneficial for my iman❤ Yazak Allahu Khairan
Im french muslim .
Guys, this guy is know to be a deviant muslim . BECAREFUL .
HIS KNOW TO BE UPON THE WAY OF THE IKHWAN (the deviant sect) . Many french muslims can confirm this .
(Sorry for my bad english)
May Allah guide us ! And guide him !
It is an amazing conversation. May we be granted with ease
Finally a 2 hour podcast
I also wanted to commend brother Dilly Hussain, for doing this very important interview with Professor Tariq Ramadan, and giving him a platform to talk about his downfall as an eminent 'Western' Islamic scholar and academic.
It really saddened me to see how the professor was targeted by his detractors in the West and shamefully let down by his Muslim brethren.
Although we know that he made a grave error and had an illicit affair, we also know that he is a human being who has weaknesses, as we all do.
When it was obvious that the professor was being targeted by women who had been paid off (by the powers that be) to slander his character and ruin his career, where was the support from the Muslim world? How was he judged so unfairly and left abandoned? Where was the push back from the Muslim world?
The professor is so right in saying that there is 'no cancel culture' in Islam, because every Muslim has the right to be heard, not judged and condemned forever.
The Professor also asserts that the UAE government was complicit in his downfall, which doesn't surprise me in the least. I am totally with the professor when he points the finger at the Muslim world, who turned their backs on him and let him down completely.
Nevertheless, I'm so happy to see that the Professor is trying to move on and pick up the pieces of his shattered life. He has been a brave and eloquent voice for Muslims in the West, and I felt pride, as a fellow Muslim when he was an esteemed professor at Oxford University, one of the most prestigious institutions of higher learning in the world.
I followed the professor on social media and would always enjoy listening to his talks and debates, where he always put forward his argument for Islam and Muslims, logically, intellectually and with powerful words.
May Allah SWT make the way forward for Professor Tariq Ramadan easy, and may we see him again doing what he does best, bringing Islam to the world.
I liked the new opening of the podcast. Good talk. I am a little confused though, so did he actually have the extramarital affairs? Or it's just the rape accusations that are bogus?
He doesn't speak clearly. Jumps all over the place . Reminded me of Jordan Peterson
From what I understood,he has not done anything illegal under the law but has accepted to be morally wrong, and that is where he speaks of tawba.
Now you are humble man
It is strange why it has so low views. Very qualitative content.
@shkelqimimsas I shared the video.
Great conversation! The bet podcast until now.
This is probably one of the best podcast you have ever done.
Beg to differ. To brush off a crime Allah ﷻ deems punishable by stoning to death as a mere moral failing is not right.
To accept publicly you committed a grave sin and carry on as nothing happened is not right.
To say "you can't judge" is not right, but worse than that is his distorted views about politics and Islam.
@@maxpathan7927tariq ramadan is still a brother but I still think l the points you are making are big big valid concerns.
@@UnknownCaller2 he committed zina and says Muslims shouldn’t judge him. The french judge found him innocent of rape, but zina is not a crime in french law. In fact it’s part of french culture and accepted.
Mashallah!!
Excellent journalism! Unravelled and exposed the spiders web!
Mashallah
I am not sure that I will ever like his way of thinking regarding Shariah application and how to revive Islamic civilisation. However, I wish him all the best with his legal problem and hope he becomes closer to traditional Islam.
I should watch this
Good question , well done
For me listening to TR talk about social justice as the primary reason d'etre reveals the fault line between Ikhwāni activism and Sūfi (his contrast) 'amal.
Very telling.
He thinks differently and that’s why he’s so dangerous to the kuffar. May Allah free him of false accusations and restore his reputation and honor.
MashaAllah ❤
He's absolutely spot-on. It's no wonder there's so many triggered wahhabis in the comments. Now I understand.
MASHALLAH
Barakallahu fikum
بارك الله في الأستاذ طارق رمضان.
The removal of Tariq Ramadan in the public space without a doubt created a void. He would have been having podcasts with the likes of Jordon Peterson and so forth if he was still around. His affair and the NAK scandal created ruptures in the Western Muslim community that we're still coming to terms with. It allowed the likes of the "UA-cam Dawah bros" to take hold and individuals like Hijab were pushed forward even when not ready...much like the earlier "compassionate imams" that they now criticize for being too "liberal".
Tariq Ramadan has denied the punishment of stoning. If that is not being liberal and trying to change our faith for pleasing the west then I don’t know what else would be.
tariq ramadan was criticized by the majority of muslims since the beginning , his ideas were never accepted in the mainstream. and btw Hijab never commited zina ;)
@@unknownpng650 Who is this majority of Muslims? I made a specific reference to Muslims in the West -- and whom among the leadership class and scholars attacked him? In fact, his ideas were widely embraced, which is exactly why he had a huge following (the largest at the time of his cancellation in the West). Even now, his arguments are still being made because they're decisive (though without credit).
People maintain the views of Ibn Abdul Wahhab stating that it's not about the person, but the ideas. The former lead to murder. Ibn Sina, who's views were synthesized into the Islamic tradition was not considered Muslim by 90% of scholars. You can separate the ideas and the person who makes them. In terms of leadership though, he was there because he was a mature, educated, critical voice. This is not the case with the current Dawah bros or Muslim leadership and you're free to disagree.
@@unknownpng650lmao simple minded slanderer you are
Amazing podcast.
Thank you for your work!
can someone confirm if i understood correct , UAE and Saudi were involved in Tariq Ramadan's case and helped the french people to defeat him ?
Ma shaa Allah!! May Allah continue to protect you all. Ameen
Great interview.❤
جزاک اللہ خیرا
Best accent in the game
Absolutelt shameful and disguisting that a woman can have such a corrupted mind to destroy an innocent mans life for her own clout and publicity, may Allah reward Tariq for this hardship and bless him with jannah
wa'alaikum assalam wa rahmatu'LLAHI wa barakatuh
May Allah bless you
Excellent interview 👍🏼
Brother tariq tariq this world is short.we will tested death..get close to allah swt.keep the quran and salah.we love you for the sake of allah.may allah swt protect you and bless.what you did.you did islam.the deen.not to please human being.you're reward is with allah swt.allah swt bless us and made as muslims.every second I ask allah swt to died as a muslims.may allah swt united our beloved prophet muhammad peace be upon him.
Really interesting podcast mash Allah
Tariq Ramdan you are proving your self a truthful man?
Intellectual powerhouse
It is said Nelson Mandela was heavily influenced by his religious beliefs. Imagine if such a man deemed that positively affecting others with the good of his religious beliefs would be a fruitless endeavour.
Or that he kept it purely personal.
If none-muslims are showing and have shown us how to create positive change in the world, than we as Muslims already have our answer.
Islam was sent for the whole of mankind and the brotherhood is not confined to anyones postcode area.
Huh??
السَّلاَمُ عَلَيْكُمْ وَرَحْمَةُ اللهِ وَبَرَكَاتُهُ
Assalamu’alaikum warahmatullahi wabarakatuh
Very nice channel !
Regardless of propating a distorted euro "Islam" those who he tried to please oh so much still managed to bite him.
❤
Based on who his grandfather was, the fruit has truly fallen far from the tree. A sordid affair. I appreciate and respect the work that Dilly does but he let him off really easy in this interview.
Why?
@@snakejuce The man admitted to extramarital affairs on multiple occassions. He would have been flogged under shariah and sent to the barzakh. Out of shame he shouldn't even have a public platform, but here he is.
@@fromtheperiphery does he even believe in hudood punishments?
@@munjihmohamedismail7310 He is a muslim so I assume he believes. If someone rejects the hudood then they are denying Islam. Either way, he would have been flogged under shariah. He should really keep a low profile and never speak publicly again out of shame.
@@fromtheperipherywas he not married. In that case would it not be stoning in public?
Anyways he calls for a moratoir, does not change the gravity of his actions.
Would we listen and act upon what he says, it would be a society full of hypocrits protecting each others immorality while preaching morality.
So it seems, a hypocrit preaching hypocrisy.
Wonderful interview. We learnt a lot. I also joined his talk during that time.
Very informative I learned a lot from it , I have high regard for brother Tariq Ramadan I regard him one the highest knowledgeable person when it comes to Muslim living in west may Allah bless him with good health and happiness.
Prof Tariq ramadan is the impersonation of 'Riding the tiger of modernity' 🐯 no doubt that Julius Evola would agree 👍
SIGMA TARIQ INSHALLAH FREE MY BRUDDA AWOOOOOWA
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In terms of him bashing "shariah" or "hudood", that's pretty convenient for a married man who commits zina! But, I think bigger than his alleged affairs is his troublesome fringe liberal secular views for his vision of a new religion called "European Islam".
I'm uncomfortable with the concept of covering the sin of your brother. To what extent should we cover?
Is that concept abused in our community and used to cover deeper problematic issues like abuse or behavior like that of the Rochdale gangs?
Well done, Dilly, for pushing further on that.
Al7mdllah
Time stamps pls
Why no introduction who he is etc? I don’t know who he is
Woow
In the begining he seems to be turning arrogant man now he seems to be humble may Allah swt give him hidaya Ameeen
It's good for you they want to destroy you you need this to be really humble
Majority of french politicians have mistresses, it's normal in France.
And normal here too it would appear.
Look brother Ramdan what happened to you Àllah swt knows everything remember 23:26
In simple terms.. this is a "Matrix" attack.
inshallah my brother
When you separate the spiritual from the political you have a car crash like Tariq had.
His moral failings only harm him, but the corruption of his ideas harms others
I agree with you
What does a smearing campaign and character assassination have to do with the makeup of his politics ??
Are you saying that had he or anyone the perfect spiritual and political makeup according to you, no such witch-hunt can or will or deserves to happen ??
Just because you disagree with the public persona of someone, this would justify all calamities brought forth ??
@@aorippedbandaid3711 you make a strawman argument.
Dili get Majid Nawaz on ur podcast!
Why. He's not Muslim. Rather a known Munafiq
Tariq Ramadan has admitted to having at least 5 extramarital affairs and playing virtual/ sexual games with women, so not a man with high morals .
this individual admitted to kissing and being alone with strange women. he is not a good Muslim example! he should be shunned and ignored by the Muslim community, not invited to podcasts.
if he is breathing,.... he is lying
Tariq Ramadan tried to “reform” the Law of Allah & he was punished. Maybe Allah wants to take him pure.
How did he have consensual sex with those women (his defense) with MS?
His choice to stay in France even after catching wind of the conspiracy against him is either a mark or courage, tawakkal or stupidity, depending on your point of view. He could easily have made hijra to a sympathetic Muslim land to avoid the fitna facing him.
I have a lot of admiration for Tariq Ramadan.
There's no doubt he was persecuted and treated immensely unfairly.
But I don't think he's setting the right tone at the end by blaming some Muslims for turning their back on him.
I do think there's wisdom in solidarity with Muslims even when they fall short, but Tariq Ramadan should understand that he disappointed millions of Muslims he felt that his actions caused more damage to Muslims than good. I don't think that position is right, i.e., I do think Tariq Ramadan did more good than bad (the bad being such public hypocrisy), but it isn't a terrible position to have.
So I didn't like that line. I get it, and I do think Muslims should be more supportive of each other, but it doesn't feel right for him to lay that point on so strongly. He really hurt many of us with his actions.
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