One thing that will always be true of F7 owners is that no matter what variant of the F7 you have in your hangar, there's always an objectively better and more exclusive version that you don't own.
This one has a smaller power plant than the military version. Thats why the military version has so many guns. It has more power to fill those capacitors. I don't think they should not allow more gun mounts on this one because is is nerfed already due to the power issues.
You can actually wing walk up to the top of the ship and there’s a button you can press at the edge of the pod that will open cargo pod I use a tractor beam to haul boxes up there
I have a regular hornet, bought in game, so I don't think completing the event will allow me to upgrade to this one. If it did allow for the upgrade I would for sure. I don't think I'd spend real money on this though, fighters don't seem to have enough uses to justify spending real money on, at least for the way I play.
I feel like they're gonna raise the armor values on the MK1 considering its an older model to balance them. A good comparison would be when real world car models progress in years the materials that are used as time goes on tend to be lighter, but at the cost of durability. Making the newer models safer and quicker, but with the caveat of having very fragile parts.
I also feel this way. The MK I has a chunky feel to it that I can also see translating to higher durability. Another possibility might be a lower cost of repair, much like the old Avenger models that are still in use per the lore that are rugged and presumably easy to work on.
Such a shame that they got rid of the two lower MFD's. I loved the look of the panel in the Super Hornet and tbh just because of this I decided not to get this ship. MFD's are essential, especially on a fighter. They could have left the upper ones to be AR and kept 4 physical ones.
Damn, I wasn’t expecting. This one to come out so quick. Kudos. But yeah, I can’t tell a real disadvantage to getting this over the original. Based on the numbers it looks lien it’s a tiny bit worst at strafing, porch, yaw G forces (while blowing the original out of the water for everything else) and has slightly less fuel. Along with the insanely better looks, I’d 100% Ava emu money and get the mark 2 over the original. Hopefully MM fixes the original by making it have better ho/ armor or something🤷♂️
Why make the original better at fighting when there's a perfectly logical way of balancing it already: Make the Mk1 a lot more versatile. You get the Ghost, the Tracker and the Super Hornet. Apparently, there's a MK2 Tracker, but the Ghost gives you stealth and the Super Hornet gives you a second seat where you can either stow your friend or an incapacitated bounty target. The F7C Mk1 begin strictly worse than the F7C Mk2 is fine if you ask me as long as the Mk1 is cheap enough to make it a "stepping stone" for new pilots, who can then either specialize with one of the Mk1 variants or go further into fighting by going with the Mk2.
They DEFINITELY should NOT make the nose and ball turret exclusive to the F7A MK2. The upgrade to the F7A you get through Xenon Threat only works with ships bought with real money. You can't get the F7A without spending real money after you already bought the game package. That's also the same with the F8. Yes, you have to work for it by finding a golden ticket, but you also have to spend real money on it. The strongest ships are behind a pay wall and you can't buy them in-game. Finding a golden ticket wasn't really the problem. Completing Xenon Threat also wasn't a problem when you were in a group of 3 or 5 people. Things like this turn Star Citizen into a full-price pay-to-win game. So if you want Star Citizen to be even more pay-to-win, yes, make the nose and ball turret exclusive to the F7A.
I agree with the stepping stone to the F7A, but loosing the cargo space is not my opinion of an upgrade. I would rather the F7c mkII over FZA. Or the ability to swap out the turret on the F7A but then the F7c wouldn’t have a reason to exist at all.
To be fair the base F7c is exactly the same. You absolutely do not go out with a stock setup base Hornet unless you are deliberately handicapping yourself.
running full ballistics on my mk2, its crazy, but you cant stay in the fight for very long, and the size 4 on the top looks really stupid right now, the ball turret seems to be misaligned or something, also removing the top mfd's is an obvious downgrade from mk1
Letting this thing only mount two size fours is maybe the dumbest take I’ve heard on this game. It would make it the same as a hurricane without the gunner. That would be unbelievably bad. The mk1 would be doing more than double the dps.
This review is of course update 3.22 and as a stock ship, expect the portions where I mention upgrades. In 3.23 it’s already stock mounted as 2 size 4’s, I have a new review for this ship cooking.
I don't know, this new hornet looks....odd. Weak shields, low capacitors... The F8C Shreds this tiny child. Stepping up a little bit, an Ares Inferno seems to be a more bang for the buck.
Well duh the F8 is going to tear this because its a medium fighter, not a heavy. A better comparison would be to other mediums/lights due to their better similarities. However this will change til MasterModes arrive
thats a clear no.. too many buttons needed for a console controler if you want to unleash the full potential of all the options this game offers. its just too complex.
@@lehoang5302have to get a new computer. What are your specs anyway? I run it on a pretty low end PC. I get 20-60fps in cities and 60-90 everywhere else I run on a 2700(non x) and 1660ti. My wife runs on a i5-9300h and a 1650 and gets 15-30 in cities ad 30-50 everywhere else
@@lehoang5302 Might be time to consider your next PC purchase to be a desktop. Or a much more beefy laptop. But this game shines when filling your view on a big monitor. I did a recent PC build for $1500 thats runs this game really great at 4K very high settings. Despite the rumors it doesn't some expensive beast computer to run it. Have you tried your laptop? What are the specs?
@@festersmith8352 havent bought the game yet . I want to wait for the release version. Btw , my laptop is a thinkbook 16+ , with r7 6800h and a rtx 2050. It can run esport game, but this, i dont think so hahaha.
One thing that will always be true of F7 owners is that no matter what variant of the F7 you have in your hangar, there's always an objectively better and more exclusive version that you don't own.
This one has a smaller power plant than the military version. Thats why the military version has so many guns. It has more power to fill those capacitors. I don't think they should not allow more gun mounts on this one because is is nerfed already due to the power issues.
Power doesn't matter when you swap to ad4bs
You can actually wing walk up to the top of the ship and there’s a button you can press at the edge of the pod that will open cargo pod I use a tractor beam to haul boxes up there
I want the A-Military variant so bad! Even if just to have it in my hangar. o7
If I had the money, I would 100% throw it all on this. Unfortunately, I guess we have to wait til it goes live in game..
Stats wise I think it's fun , but I can never get over the dorky top weapon mounts for this ship.
It's okay evenlease to talk upgrades. Don't be ashamed!
Great review. Nice and clean. Thank you!
I have a regular hornet, bought in game, so I don't think completing the event will allow me to upgrade to this one. If it did allow for the upgrade I would for sure. I don't think I'd spend real money on this though, fighters don't seem to have enough uses to justify spending real money on, at least for the way I play.
I put AD4b's on before she saw her first bounty, keen eye you had calling that out.
I feel like they're gonna raise the armor values on the MK1 considering its an older model to balance them. A good comparison would be when real world car models progress in years the materials that are used as time goes on tend to be lighter, but at the cost of durability. Making the newer models safer and quicker, but with the caveat of having very fragile parts.
I also feel this way. The MK I has a chunky feel to it that I can also see translating to higher durability. Another possibility might be a lower cost of repair, much like the old Avenger models that are still in use per the lore that are rugged and presumably easy to work on.
or lighter and stronger using carbon fiber.
Such a shame that they got rid of the two lower MFD's. I loved the look of the panel in the Super Hornet and tbh just because of this I decided not to get this ship. MFD's are essential, especially on a fighter. They could have left the upper ones to be AR and kept 4 physical ones.
Damn, I wasn’t expecting. This one to come out so quick. Kudos.
But yeah, I can’t tell a real disadvantage to getting this over the original. Based on the numbers it looks lien it’s a tiny bit worst at strafing, porch, yaw G forces (while blowing the original out of the water for everything else) and has slightly less fuel.
Along with the insanely better looks, I’d 100% Ava emu money and get the mark 2 over the original. Hopefully MM fixes the original by making it have better ho/ armor or something🤷♂️
Why make the original better at fighting when there's a perfectly logical way of balancing it already: Make the Mk1 a lot more versatile.
You get the Ghost, the Tracker and the Super Hornet. Apparently, there's a MK2 Tracker, but the Ghost gives you stealth and the Super Hornet gives you a second seat where you can either stow your friend or an incapacitated bounty target.
The F7C Mk1 begin strictly worse than the F7C Mk2 is fine if you ask me as long as the Mk1 is cheap enough to make it a "stepping stone" for new pilots, who can then either specialize with one of the Mk1 variants or go further into fighting by going with the Mk2.
How did you get that color? Mine is blue and I hate it.
u can talk bout upgrades more i think its important too :)
They DEFINITELY should NOT make the nose and ball turret exclusive to the F7A MK2.
The upgrade to the F7A you get through Xenon Threat only works with ships bought with real money. You can't get the F7A without spending real money after you already bought the game package. That's also the same with the F8. Yes, you have to work for it by finding a golden ticket, but you also have to spend real money on it. The strongest ships are behind a pay wall and you can't buy them in-game. Finding a golden ticket wasn't really the problem. Completing Xenon Threat also wasn't a problem when you were in a group of 3 or 5 people.
Things like this turn Star Citizen into a full-price pay-to-win game. So if you want Star Citizen to be even more pay-to-win, yes, make the nose and ball turret exclusive to the F7A.
I agree with the stepping stone to the F7A, but loosing the cargo space is not my opinion of an upgrade. I would rather the F7c mkII over FZA. Or the ability to swap out the turret on the F7A but then the F7c wouldn’t have a reason to exist at all.
Hopefully we will be able to swap it out with cargo and turret
You can swap out the cargo container for a turret or dish.
Have you done a review of the F7A Hornet MK 2 Military version?
Not yet. The second I have access to it I will.
@@EvenLease44 if you want to borrow mine you can (CMDHAWK)
I dont think its overpowered it plays its role well, great review.
You know I want it but I haven’t even tried light/heavy fighter combat. Just multipurpose/cargo. Cost is too steep for me to justify in that regard.
Are they also doing something with the F7C-M Superhornet?
AD4B seems to be mandatory on this ship, the repeaters just dont perform well.
I’m most likely going to wait for it to be released in game or take a rental of it first before I decide to melt my Connie for it.
Talk to me about that black paint I keep seeing in everyone's vids on this thing. It's not in the store.
I had to buy it from those websites that sell SC stuff
Concierge only unfortunately.
To be fair the base F7c is exactly the same. You absolutely do not go out with a stock setup base Hornet unless you are deliberately handicapping yourself.
Is it worth it to upgrade gladius to that
I did and have enjoyed this 10x more
running full ballistics on my mk2, its crazy, but you cant stay in the fight for very long, and the size 4 on the top looks really stupid right now, the ball turret seems to be misaligned or something, also removing the top mfd's is an obvious downgrade from mk1
I think the intent is to have more AR elements in the mkII. Declutter the cockpit, put it on HUD.
How do you put a size 4 on the ball turret? Mine only holds size 2 weapons.
@@MetalsirenIXI Different Turret
@@MetalsirenIXI there's 4 different varipuck/ball turrets you can attach on to the top
MK stands for Mark. Ie Mark 2.
How you got that color ?
Hello, its available for Concierge members. You could potentially have someone buy and gift it to you.
The mk2 should be better than the og. Whole point of a mk2 is to improve upon the original design
Letting this thing only mount two size fours is maybe the dumbest take I’ve heard on this game. It would make it the same as a hurricane without the gunner. That would be unbelievably bad. The mk1 would be doing more than double the dps.
This review is of course update 3.22 and as a stock ship, expect the portions where I mention upgrades.
In 3.23 it’s already stock mounted as 2 size 4’s, I have a new review for this ship cooking.
F8 is much better ship by far.
- faster
- 19000 shields vs 3000 on the hornet
- 2500 qt fuel vs 600 on the hornet
hornet is trash compared to the F8
Both different ships technically, one is heavy fighter the other isn’t. They have to keep to their roles.
F7 is a medium fighter
I don't know, this new hornet looks....odd. Weak shields, low capacitors... The F8C Shreds this tiny child. Stepping up a little bit, an Ares Inferno seems to be a more bang for the buck.
Well duh the F8 is going to tear this because its a medium fighter, not a heavy. A better comparison would be to other mediums/lights due to their better similarities. However this will change til MasterModes arrive
Mid $100 ship vs a $250 and $300 dollar ship
actually the inferno is a strike ship not a fighter. so you’re wrong
hope the game will be released in xbox , love this game so much\
thats a clear no.. too many buttons needed for a console controler if you want to unleash the full potential of all the options this game offers. its just too complex.
@@LashlayDS9 :( oh
My laptop wont be strong enough to handle this tho
@@lehoang5302have to get a new computer. What are your specs anyway? I run it on a pretty low end PC. I get 20-60fps in cities and 60-90 everywhere else
I run on a 2700(non x) and 1660ti. My wife runs on a i5-9300h and a 1650 and gets 15-30 in cities ad 30-50 everywhere else
@@lehoang5302 Might be time to consider your next PC purchase to be a desktop. Or a much more beefy laptop.
But this game shines when filling your view on a big monitor.
I did a recent PC build for $1500 thats runs this game really great at 4K very high settings.
Despite the rumors it doesn't some expensive beast computer to run it.
Have you tried your laptop?
What are the specs?
@@festersmith8352 havent bought the game yet . I want to wait for the release version. Btw , my laptop is a thinkbook 16+ , with r7 6800h and a rtx 2050. It can run esport game, but this, i dont think so hahaha.