Just saw an exhibit at the Peterson Auto Museum with these bikes, they looked cool. The battery tho looks a little clunky. Thx for sharing Alex. Cheers Kirk
I love it! I like that it's an actual motorcycle as opposed to an electric bicycle with pedals. Would definitely consider one for the times I have to go into the office and can take surface streets to get there.
I agree but they’re targeting an electric motorcycle market rather than an ebike/PEV market so they can justify the cost a little bit more, plus the modularity aspect
You nailed the #1 problem around the 10 minute mark, the seat/lack of padding gives you a sore ass. For 1/2 the price, it might be acceptable. For short rides, it might be ok. But no way would I pay that much for an EV bike that would be that uncomfortable. Let's face it, if you are suffering in the seat, what is the point? It is like girls that wear shoes that don't fit and or ruin their feet for the purpose of dressing up. I don't need a show bike that I cannot ride. I want a bike I can ride that will bring me hours of comfort on it.
The CAKE is an interesting concept. The uncomfortable seat is inexcusable. A bicycle seat with springs would have been more comfortable than that thin pad. In addition, how about a metal lockable case to protect the battery? I don't think that is asking for too much.
It's important to note that in most places you have good Electric vehicle refunds from the government. I think it's about 2000$ in Canada for those bikes.
I was thinking it would be about 3k for such a simple machine. 10k is hilarious… I’d venture most motorcycle riders would go for one of many great bikes for 10k and be able to go in the highway or for longer trips with more power etc. perhaps this is geared towards the non-motorcycle community.
@@yamkaw346 ok. Well. You are welcome to buy one then. Doesn’t detract from my point though… you can get some really nice bikes for that money, especially lightly used, that don’t come with any of the inherent shortcomings of this scooter. In order to win the market, they’ll have to compete for the attention of motorcycle riders. Or, like I said, perhaps their target market isn’t today’s motorcyclist.
@@robrockatansky5905 What youre saying is so obvious there is no point in saying it. What I’m saying is lesser known, and an explanation for the price to those that do not understand.
@@yamkaw346 Ah. Thanks for your attempt at censorship. Luckily, I do enjoy freedom of speech and this is a platform for open communication. Best of luck to you on your Cale bike. I’ll try not to laugh hysterically when I see one go by. If I see one go by.
I don't think enough attention is being given to the removable battery. While many emotos have removable batteries this system seems extremely convenient. This solves much of the lack of parking / charging infrastructure in big cities. It's a delivery bike, and this hot swap design is a fleet winner. I can also see myself parking my bike and automatically removing the battery and letting it charge under my office desk. Price will drop. There's not much there but the battery keeping this price high.
I’m unsure of where you live but we have a dealer here in Central FL; Travel Country Outfitters sells them for sure. I saw several yesterday and they were epic
A Riese and Muller bike Delite GT is easily 8k. Some carbon fiber mountain bikes are easily 10k. Just say you can't afford it! I look this as it can silently lane split, and it's modular so I can run errands that I'd usually use thirsty V8 Durango yet have the fun of open air experience. That trailer accessory looks promising.
Literally can get a Super 73, Aiel Rider, or Juiced that go faster and have pedals to keep going even if your battery dies for thousands less. Similar price range? Onyx or Surron bikes that destroy this and they still have pedals. The concept is good the price just doesn’t make sense.
Its insanely expensive to this in Sweden thats why. When their production can keep up with the orders price might will go down its just a matter of time.
@@zerocool6452 I doubt if electric vehicles will ever go down in price. They will always be small business with very expensive overhead. The cost of building an electric vehicle of any kind costs nothing compared to complexity and number of parts in a gas-engine vehicle. And because electric vehicles will always have a problem with either range or speed, or both, they will never, IMO, be mass-produced to the point of the price being less than a gas-engine counterpart (which it should be... what does a motor and battery cost compared to complexity of an engine and a transmission, starter, fuel-injection and all the emissions-countering parts involved?). I live on solar at my house so it would cost me nothing to drive back and forth to town in an electric vehicle. But the amount of gas I'd save would never, in several lifetimes, pay for the added expense of the electric vehicle. My Honda Monkey gets 150 mpg running back and forth to town for shopping or for pleasure. I rode a 148 mile loop through the mountains yesterday for one gallon of gas. You would have to charge an electric motorcycle at least 3-4 times to make that long of trip and it would cost more to charge it (if there were any charge stations along the way) than a gallon of gas costs. And you would have to spend HOURS at each charge point. A four hour ride on the Honda would turn into a 4 day ride on an electric bike. The "tree-huggers" are delusional. It costs the environment more in pollution to produce the electricity they'll be using (unless they have solar chargers) than our cars pollute.
Good effort, but it looks like an overpriced half-finished DIY project with a $10K price tag. You'll have a lot more fun getting a Grom, Monkey, Super Cub, or even a few Navis for $ thousands less. Btw, the price of an extra battery for one of these is around $3K by itself. Ridiculous.
It's a utility bike. It's electric. Why would you want a Grom if you are looking for an electric utility bike? It's for companies that want to get attention.
Swedish quality costs money its as simple as that tho the price will go down at some point. The name is weird yes but its funny and quirky. It's ugly yes but its cool, it doesn't have to look good to be functional and thats the thing this is made to be higly customizable with all kinds accessories you can add to it. With what you can do with it this is the only design that allows it.
I like where they are going, but this is expensive, short range and, really,, NOT cool. It’s so basic it’s embarrassing. $10,500 usd??? Sure there’s some design built in for the modular aspect, but it’s just one step too far as price vs design goes. Kinda like a $300 meal where you need to eat a burger after to get full. After 50 miles, I would get home and get on my Ryker to go for a REAL ride!! Haha. It’s a step in the right direction ,,,,,. Good review Alex!!
Overpriced and for 10k I would like a key to turn on and off the bike not a pin and it needs to tell u the range of battery. Even 1500 dollar e bike tell u the range you have. Cake won't last with those prices and all the flaws it has.
Thanks! Had the chance to live/ride vicariously thru you ! Stoked you had the chance to ride !
Just saw an exhibit at the Peterson Auto Museum with these bikes, they looked cool. The battery tho looks a little clunky. Thx for sharing Alex. Cheers Kirk
Very neat bike. I would love to own one, but the price is very high. I would get one if it was half price or better. Thanks for the great review
Thanks for the video, Alex. It’s an interesting bike.
10k is crazy, prices gotta come down to be worth it
I love it! I like that it's an actual motorcycle as opposed to an electric bicycle with pedals. Would definitely consider one for the times I have to go into the office and can take surface streets to get there.
"Surface streets" 😂
@@Lilian040210 Yeah, that's what we call normal, non-freeway streets here in Phoenix. 😊
Great video but $10,000 just seems silly for that thing. To each his own but that thing looks like a budget bike. Very minimalistic.
Ikr it should be at least 3000$-5000$
It is a Quality bike not some Chinese crap!
@@petter5721 It may be. It should be for that price. Hope you like yours
I agree but they’re targeting an electric motorcycle market rather than an ebike/PEV market so they can justify the cost a little bit more, plus the modularity aspect
10000$ beats the purpose of the bike. No delivery guy will be zipping around on a 10k$. I can buy a whole car and work in taxi at this point
You nailed the #1 problem around the 10 minute mark, the seat/lack of padding gives you a sore ass. For 1/2 the price, it might be acceptable. For short rides, it might be ok. But no way would I pay that much for an EV bike that would be that uncomfortable. Let's face it, if you are suffering in the seat, what is the point? It is like girls that wear shoes that don't fit and or ruin their feet for the purpose of dressing up. I don't need a show bike that I cannot ride. I want a bike I can ride that will bring me hours of comfort on it.
You said it right in your comment, for short rides it’s ok. This bike is only meant for, and can only do short rides, so it’s ok.
The CAKE is an interesting concept. The uncomfortable seat is inexcusable. A bicycle seat with springs would have been more comfortable than that thin pad. In addition, how about a metal lockable case to protect the battery? I don't think that is asking for too much.
For that price I can buy two Honda Trail 125s. Just about the same performance but I bet I’ll still be able to ride the Honda 20 years down the road.
It's important to note that in most places you have good Electric vehicle refunds from the government. I think it's about 2000$ in Canada for those bikes.
750 for that bike here in Oregon:)
I'll eat cake but I'll never ride a cake. ( well maybe chocolate).
It looks like my dad built it in his garage, I do like it. But it's spendy for sure
Looks like something from a Steve Jobs fever dream
10K? What type of drugs are Cake using. Someone needs a belt. 11:03
My 200 cube bike is 13,5 horses too😅
Colorado payload review??
Around here they use backpacks and e-fatbikes for food. Maybe an uberfood weapon with the range, but snow !!
Looks like something I'd make in my garage,... when I was 17.
it was actually made by a 14 year old 17 years ago
I was thinking it would be about 3k for such a simple machine. 10k is hilarious… I’d venture most motorcycle riders would go for one of many great bikes for 10k and be able to go in the highway or for longer trips with more power etc. perhaps this is geared towards the non-motorcycle community.
It’s a new company making high quality parts in house. It’s hard to do that cheap until their mass production.
@@yamkaw346 ok. Well. You are welcome to buy one then. Doesn’t detract from my point though… you can get some really nice bikes for that money, especially lightly used, that don’t come with any of the inherent shortcomings of this scooter. In order to win the market, they’ll have to compete for the attention of motorcycle riders. Or, like I said, perhaps their target market isn’t today’s motorcyclist.
@@robrockatansky5905 What youre saying is so obvious there is no point in saying it. What I’m saying is lesser known, and an explanation for the price to those that do not understand.
@@yamkaw346 Ah. Thanks for your attempt at censorship. Luckily, I do enjoy freedom of speech and this is a platform for open communication. Best of luck to you on your Cale bike. I’ll try not to laugh hysterically when I see one go by. If I see one go by.
@@robrockatansky5905 Your name is Rob which only has 3 letters, your last name had more letters in it than your first name does.
That looks like a standard car battery. If it is, you could swap out for the biggest thing you can fit in there.
It obviously not a car battery.......
I don't think enough attention is being given to the removable battery. While many emotos have removable batteries this system seems extremely convenient. This solves much of the lack of parking / charging infrastructure in big cities. It's a delivery bike, and this hot swap design is a fleet winner. I can also see myself parking my bike and automatically removing the battery and letting it charge under my office desk. Price will drop. There's not much there but the battery keeping this price high.
Are there many dealers around to sell those?
I’m unsure of where you live but we have a dealer here in Central FL; Travel Country Outfitters sells them for sure. I saw several yesterday and they were epic
A Riese and Muller bike Delite GT is easily 8k. Some carbon fiber mountain bikes are easily 10k. Just say you can't afford it! I look this as it can silently lane split, and it's modular so I can run errands that I'd usually use thirsty V8 Durango yet have the fun of open air experience. That trailer accessory looks promising.
Good commuter bike, but pricey! Would appreciate more padding on the seat, because I’m a bigger guy
It's literally $8,000 over priced.
starts at $8000 USD fyi
Literally can get a Super 73, Aiel Rider, or Juiced that go faster and have pedals to keep going even if your battery dies for thousands less. Similar price range? Onyx or Surron bikes that destroy this and they still have pedals. The concept is good the price just doesn’t make sense.
a 125cc equivalent bike for $10k, the electric manufacturers are out of their minds.
Its insanely expensive to this in Sweden thats why. When their production can keep up with the orders price might will go down its just a matter of time.
@@zerocool6452 I doubt if electric vehicles will ever go down in price. They will always be small business with very expensive overhead. The cost of building an electric vehicle of any kind costs nothing compared to complexity and number of parts in a gas-engine vehicle. And because electric vehicles will always have a problem with either range or speed, or both, they will never, IMO, be mass-produced to the point of the price being less than a gas-engine counterpart (which it should be... what does a motor and battery cost compared to complexity of an engine and a transmission, starter, fuel-injection and all the emissions-countering parts involved?). I live on solar at my house so it would cost me nothing to drive back and forth to town in an electric vehicle. But the amount of gas I'd save would never, in several lifetimes, pay for the added expense of the electric vehicle. My Honda Monkey gets 150 mpg running back and forth to town for shopping or for pleasure. I rode a 148 mile loop through the mountains yesterday for one gallon of gas. You would have to charge an electric motorcycle at least 3-4 times to make that long of trip and it would cost more to charge it (if there were any charge stations along the way) than a gallon of gas costs. And you would have to spend HOURS at each charge point. A four hour ride on the Honda would turn into a 4 day ride on an electric bike. The "tree-huggers" are delusional. It costs the environment more in pollution to produce the electricity they'll be using (unless they have solar chargers) than our cars pollute.
Good effort, but it looks like an overpriced half-finished DIY project with a $10K price tag.
You'll have a lot more fun getting a Grom, Monkey, Super Cub, or even a few Navis for $ thousands less.
Btw, the price of an extra battery for one of these is around $3K by itself. Ridiculous.
It's a utility bike. It's electric. Why would you want a Grom if you are looking for an electric utility bike? It's for companies that want to get attention.
This is not made to have fun on its a work bike. But I agree that the battery is too expensive for comfort, I do hope they last for a long ass time.
Nice looking bike but $10,000 I don’t think so maybe $4000 would be a good Price range for the average person
Stupid name, crude & amateur looking, premium price tag. Looks about right for something coming out of Sweden these days...
Too complicated to understand for some.
@@watster What is complicated about this bike, other than the justification for its pricetag? ;)
Might as well bundle a bunch of Ikea furniture along with that price tag.
Swedish quality costs money its as simple as that tho the price will go down at some point. The name is weird yes but its funny and quirky. It's ugly yes but its cool, it doesn't have to look good to be functional and thats the thing this is made to be higly customizable with all kinds accessories you can add to it. With what you can do with it this is the only design that allows it.
Nope........Fugly, overpriced, underpowered.
RIDICULOUS
Design???? It looks like it's made in a garden shed... in Russia... for 10 000 USD... Shame!
Looks like a 2x4. Looks are subjective but I'm not a fan at all.
Are you joking when you say it looks cool? With respect, it's one of the ugliest things on two wheels I've ever seen, in my humble opinion.
Well in my opinion that minimalistic industrial design is quite cool.
Fugley and ridiculous at $10k.
I like where they are going, but this is expensive, short range and, really,, NOT cool. It’s so basic it’s embarrassing. $10,500 usd??? Sure there’s some design built in for the modular aspect, but it’s just one step too far as price vs design goes.
Kinda like a $300 meal where you need to eat a burger after to get full. After 50 miles, I would get home and get on my Ryker to go for a REAL ride!! Haha.
It’s a step in the right direction ,,,,,.
Good review Alex!!
Overpriced and for 10k I would like a key to turn on and off the bike not a pin and it needs to tell u the range of battery. Even 1500 dollar e bike tell u the range you have. Cake won't last with those prices and all the flaws it has.
Yet they can't keep production for the amount of orders they have
Out of business... Unsurprisingly
It's 11.000 dollars. It can only travel 50 miles. Not that practical. Lets see 150 miles then we can talk.
Total garbage IMO
Your grammar leaves a lot to be desired the battery does not pull itself out think before you speak millennial