Bombadil triumphs, because Old Tom Bombadil is a merry fellow, Bright blue his jacket is, and his boots are yellow. None has ever caught him yet, for Tom, he is the Master: His songs are stronger songs, and his feet are faster.
Tom’s whole vibe is just untouchable. It’s like he’s so far outside the rules of Middle-earth that even the Ring and Sauron can’t affect him. Makes you wonder what Tolkien really had in mind for him.
Yes, he could. Because, Sauron's ring had no effect on Tom Bombadil. Tom was described by Tolkien as a spirit of nature from The Countryside. He lived in a house in the forest with his beautiful wife Goldberry. His own words when he introduced himself to Frodo and his friends, I am old, older than the forest itself. He was always filled with joy and singing as he walked. He can commune with animals and understand them.
Could Tom defeat Sauron? I think he could but to me the more interesting question is _would_ he? He didn't seem particularly interested in getting involved and if Sauron won I could see him avoiding Tom and just leaving him in his forest. Maybe if something happened to Goldberry Tom would go Super Saiyan and completely wreck Sauron lol.
“Actually, Gandalf never explicitly stated that Tom Bombadil would lose to Sauron. In The Fellowship of the Ring, during the Council of Elrond, Gandalf mentioned that Bombadil might not understand the Ring’s significance and wouldn’t seek to resist Sauron actively. However, it’s left ambiguous whether Bombadil could truly be defeated, as his power is unique and beyond typical comparison.
@Taleof_fellowship Sorry, not Gandolf, two Elf Lords, page 293-ish, Council of Elrond, Glorfindel said, "Could that power be defied by Bombadil alone? I think not. I think that in the end, if all else is conquered, Bombadil will fall, Last as he was First; and then Night will come." Galdor replied, "but Glorfindel, I think, is right. Power to defy our enemy is not in him, unless such power is in the Earth itself. And yet we see Sauron can torture and destroy the very hills." Gandolf does say the Ring has no power over Bombadil but also Bombadil has no power over the ring nor those it controls. The ring is not sentient and is only a part of Sauron's total strength so when Bombadil holds it he is not contending with an active will.. Return Sauron his ring, add in his Nazgul and his armies and I see no way Bombadil survives.
i actually disagree ...if challenged he would overcome Sauron easily because tom's power is older then the earth and he is the first, therefore Sauron could not overwhelm him, now Morgoth since he is so close to Ea in power might have success overcoming Tom, but i've always though the Tom was somehow connected closely or is Ea....i think it's quite possible but perhaps we will never truly KNOW
I’m disinclined to think there would be so much conflict. Tom’s song and lighthearted nature seems infectious in a good way. The armies of Sauron would stop the destruction and begin to dance and revel. Eventually even Sauron’s very nature would be changed. Tom would not destroy Sauron or exile him. Tom would redeem him in peace.
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Dude your narration and speculation is impressive! Great video and content
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this was fantastic! I would love to see this done as an animation-what a fight! happy holidays and continued success
I'd love to see that animation too, it would be epic!
Remember Tom created boundaries he keeps within. Nowhere does Tolkein say that Bombadils power is confined to those confines
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I was very satisfied with how that ended :D :D
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Bombadil triumphs, because Old Tom Bombadil is a merry fellow,
Bright blue his jacket is, and his boots are yellow.
None has ever caught him yet, for Tom, he is the Master:
His songs are stronger songs, and his feet are faster.
Tom’s whole vibe is just untouchable. It’s like he’s so far outside the rules of Middle-earth that even the Ring and Sauron can’t affect him. Makes you wonder what Tolkien really had in mind for him.
This is pretty much exactly what I think would happen.
I’ve always thought that Ungoliant and Tom are two beings you should never mess with.
Yes, he could.
Because, Sauron's ring had no effect on Tom Bombadil.
Tom was described by Tolkien as a spirit of nature from The Countryside.
He lived in a house in the forest with his beautiful wife Goldberry.
His own words when he introduced himself to Frodo and his friends, I am old, older than the forest itself.
He was always filled with joy and singing as he walked.
He can commune with animals and understand them.
tom will definitely win 🥇
@@Taleof_fellowship Great answer
No one knows who tom bombadil is. That was intentional by him. If he is Eru the one God, ---he wouldn't interfere with middle earth history.
He's the embodiment of nature
Since Tom Bombadil DOES wear the ring (if only for a short moment), can he be considered a ringbearer?
Technically yes, but different from all other ringbearers
Could Tom defeat Sauron? I think he could but to me the more interesting question is _would_ he? He didn't seem particularly interested in getting involved and if Sauron won I could see him avoiding Tom and just leaving him in his forest. Maybe if something happened to Goldberry Tom would go Super Saiyan and completely wreck Sauron lol.
Interesting point! I can see Tom staying out of it unless Goldberry was threatened-then things would definitely get intense.
I think even Eru Illuvitar would not wish to fight with Tom. If he existed before... He is earlier than creation itself. Possibly older than Eru.
Agreed! Tom’s mysterious nature and possible connection to something older than Eru is fascinating to think about.
He did not exist before Eru. Eru is the creator
Tom Bombadil is the embodiment of Eru Illuvatar
@ I don’t see any evidence of that. He was most likely created during the music and was Ardas spiritual guardian.
No. Even Gandolf stated Bombadil would lose to Sauron, even if he was the last to fall.
“Actually, Gandalf never explicitly stated that Tom Bombadil would lose to Sauron. In The Fellowship of the Ring, during the Council of Elrond, Gandalf mentioned that Bombadil might not understand the Ring’s significance and wouldn’t seek to resist Sauron actively. However, it’s left ambiguous whether Bombadil could truly be defeated, as his power is unique and beyond typical comparison.
@Taleof_fellowship Sorry, not Gandolf, two Elf Lords, page 293-ish, Council of Elrond, Glorfindel said, "Could that power be defied by Bombadil alone? I think not. I think that in the end, if all else is conquered, Bombadil will fall, Last as he was First; and then Night will come."
Galdor replied, "but Glorfindel, I think, is right. Power to defy our enemy is not in him, unless such power is in the Earth itself. And yet we see Sauron can torture and destroy the very hills."
Gandolf does say the Ring has no power over Bombadil but also Bombadil has no power over the ring nor those it controls. The ring is not sentient and is only a part of Sauron's total strength so when Bombadil holds it he is not contending with an active will.. Return Sauron his ring, add in his Nazgul and his armies and I see no way Bombadil survives.
One on one, bombadil would defeat sauron in songs of power with or without the ring.
Militarily no....
In songs yes, in army i don't know
@Taleof_fellowship i think Tom eventually would be worn down militarily as eluded to in the council of Elrond
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i actually disagree ...if challenged he would overcome Sauron easily because tom's power is older then the earth and he is the first, therefore Sauron could not overwhelm him, now Morgoth since he is so close to Ea in power might have success overcoming Tom, but i've always though the Tom was somehow connected closely or is Ea....i think it's quite possible but perhaps we will never truly KNOW
If you watch the whole thing you’ll see that’s exactly what happens. Tom himself casts Sauron into the void.
I’m disinclined to think there would be so much conflict. Tom’s song and lighthearted nature seems infectious in a good way. The armies of Sauron would stop the destruction and begin to dance and revel. Eventually even Sauron’s very nature would be changed. Tom would not destroy Sauron or exile him. Tom would redeem him in peace.