No matter one's enthusiasm or chosen 'school', the beginner is going to have to 'find their seat'', develop some flexibility, build up their core (sitting) strength, and learn to settle the mind and slowly work up to a minimum time for the mind to purify. Eventfully, the breath will grow subtle, and the experience of unification (upacara smamdhi/access concentration ) will give rise to ''awareness''. It feels great! THEN, one begins to truly desire to deepen practice. This isn't (for most) a linear process! The main thing (at first) may be to just plant the ''seeds'' of the certainty that this path is one with heart and to be returned to as often as necessary. In the meanwhile, practice ethical restraint, sense restraint (eschew the porn, and video games that amount to ''rehearsing violence''), cultivate compassion, and BE VERY SERIOUS about ''right livelihood''! Metta!
For me even after 14 years of practice I haven't had access concentration, yet I have mindfulness from waking to sleeping, plus lucid dreaming. I recommend practice in daily life. I love concentration practice all day long, just very little time to ever do long sits. :)
@@user-fg3fv9hl3bi am similar to this, even as a nun, i dont do that much sitting meditation, but practice maintaining awareness at all times. I really struggle to keep attention fixed on one thing, it feels a waste of time for me, but find it relatively easy to maintain awareness of changing objects, such as sensations, thoughts, emotions, the khandas, and even dependant origination to some degree..always observing causes and effects, cravings and aversions, clinging, etc.. i do do retreats every now and again, and that is definitely helpful, i find especially because of the presence of the teachers. I find the presence of a good teacher has profound effect on my wisdom, my ability to see truth mire clearly, be aware of the attachments to self as they manifest in a million ways
But, how do you know you are breathing without bodily sensations? You can only know the breath by feeling it. Also anapanasati is not kasina practice and is done to develop satipatthana, this includes by definition mindfulness of vedana
@@jmcfootball96 but how? If you wouldn’t have physical sensations you wouldn’t be aware of yourself breathing. „Contact“- is one of the links in the dependent origination, it happens at a sensedoor, in this case the physical body. How are you aware that there is breath?
@@omarkyon1933 thank you for the support :D I am ‚doing it‘, however the tradition I‘m in and my personal experience both tell me you can’t ‚know‘ t he breathing without contact. We only experience this world through our sense doors, breathing is no exception to this.
@@johannessannwald2719 true. I think maybe what she means by directly interacting with the breath is the experience of the breath shifts from sensation to awareness. Though it might originally be perceived through sensation, its possible the resulting experience of the breath accumulated from some combination of sensations results in a kind of "just knowing" of the breath. A kind of awareness that it is there.
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No matter one's enthusiasm or chosen 'school', the beginner is going to have to 'find their seat'', develop some flexibility, build up their core (sitting) strength, and learn to settle the mind and slowly work up to a minimum time for the mind to purify. Eventfully, the breath will grow subtle, and the experience of unification (upacara smamdhi/access concentration ) will give rise to ''awareness''. It feels great! THEN, one begins to truly desire to deepen practice. This isn't (for most) a linear process! The main thing (at first) may be to just plant the ''seeds'' of the certainty that this path is one with heart and to be returned to as often as necessary. In the meanwhile, practice ethical restraint, sense restraint (eschew the porn, and video games that amount to ''rehearsing violence''), cultivate compassion, and BE VERY SERIOUS about ''right livelihood''! Metta!
I was led to your comment and it is so helpful. Thankyou.
For me even after 14 years of practice I haven't had access concentration, yet I have mindfulness from waking to sleeping, plus lucid dreaming. I recommend practice in daily life. I love concentration practice all day long, just very little time to ever do long sits. :)
@@user-fg3fv9hl3bi am similar to this, even as a nun, i dont do that much sitting meditation, but practice maintaining awareness at all times. I really struggle to keep attention fixed on one thing, it feels a waste of time for me, but find it relatively easy to maintain awareness of changing objects, such as sensations, thoughts, emotions, the khandas, and even dependant origination to some degree..always observing causes and effects, cravings and aversions, clinging, etc.. i do do retreats every now and again, and that is definitely helpful, i find especially because of the presence of the teachers. I find the presence of a good teacher has profound effect on my wisdom, my ability to see truth mire clearly, be aware of the attachments to self as they manifest in a million ways
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But, how do you know you are breathing without bodily sensations? You can only know the breath by feeling it. Also anapanasati is not kasina practice and is done to develop satipatthana, this includes by definition mindfulness of vedana
You can be aware of the breath without “feeling” it.
@@jmcfootball96 but how? If you wouldn’t have physical sensations you wouldn’t be aware of yourself breathing. „Contact“- is one of the links in the dependent origination, it happens at a sensedoor, in this case the physical body. How are you aware that there is breath?
It’s not hard. Just do it bro.
@@omarkyon1933 thank you for the support :D I am ‚doing it‘, however the tradition I‘m in and my personal experience both tell me you can’t ‚know‘ t he breathing without contact. We only experience this world through our sense doors, breathing is no exception to this.
@@johannessannwald2719 true. I think maybe what she means by directly interacting with the breath is the experience of the breath shifts from sensation to awareness. Though it might originally be perceived through sensation, its possible the resulting experience of the breath accumulated from some combination of sensations results in a kind of "just knowing" of the breath. A kind of awareness that it is there.
I think Beth may be too advanced for that last question to make sense to her lol