Faith Bian on his retirement with Ceb and N0tail | OG's Monkey Business Show Episode 44

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  • Опубліковано 12 чер 2024
  • From East to West, Dota legends gather and talk about... well, Dota. Listen to the experiences that Faith Bian has had in the pro scene and how Ceb and N0tail find themselves relating to them.
    Regardless of cultural differences, Dota players remain Dota players.
    In this episode, the legend Faith Bian himself talks about his retirement and what the future holds for him in Dota and life in general.
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    0:00 Intro
    02:26 How did Faith Bian started dota
    07:43 Did people think of Wings as superstars?
    09:59 Overcoming challenges as a team
    12:36 Wings at ESL One Manila
    15:49 Wings at Summit were not to be messed with
    18:24 Games Highlights from the Summit 5 OG vs Wings
    24:05 Being open to many styles of Dota
    25:18 Using old metas for new strats
    26:57 Faith beating Sumail
    29:39 Having an East and West Team together
    32:58 Did wings manage to achieve a brotherhood?
    34:53 Did they have sports psychologists to help them?
    38:00 Was wings aligned before they went into TI?|
    39:42 Were they trying new strats in official games?
    42:45 What did faith think of OG in that TI?
    44:38 At what point did Wings think they could win TI?
    46:15 How did life change after winning?
    49:48 How much different was it for Ceb and N0tail
    57:40 The infamous wings draft nobody copied
    58:38 Did they ever get a coach on Wings?
    59:39 How Team Random was formed
    1:00:36 Orgs taking cuts from players winnings
    1:03:31 What happened after Kyiv Major?
    1:05:53 Faiths favourite offlane style
    1:08:33 The CTY and BOne7 AM story
    1:09:45 When EHome signed Wings players
    1:12:18 The worst decision Ceb has ever made
    1:14:00 The criticism from the community
    1:15:28 How do Ceb and N0tail deal with criticism
    1:16:54 How does Faith deal with pressure
    1:17:45 N0tails advice
    1:19:10 No social media during tournament
    1:20:30 During TI Faith had to give his phone away
    1:21:19 The formation of PSG.LGD
    1:22:55 How Xiao8 helped Faith and Y
    1:24:48 The importance of playing a game and being a coach
    1:26:10 OG vs PSG.LGD Scrims during TI11
    1:28:25 Is Faith retiring like Ceb or...?
    1:30:10 Will Faith be involved more in Dota?
    1:31:16 What connection is there between Dota and music
    1:34:54 Outro
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  • @farihalubaba0810
    @farihalubaba0810 Рік тому +558

    I see Ceb Notail and Faith Bian on one video and I click fast af

  • @rtchhangte5045
    @rtchhangte5045 Рік тому +322

    Hugeee respect to Faith Bian for doing this podcast.

  • @Togairu
    @Togairu Рік тому +365

    This episode was definitely a special one, thanks to faith for coming on and everyone else that helped make it happen

  • @eggdropp1621
    @eggdropp1621 Рік тому +121

    You can literally see in the eyes of faith bian's girlfriend how proud she is of him, the way he tries his best to speak english. Faithbian one of the greatest player ever!

    • @damnson9495
      @damnson9495 Рік тому +5

      Oh. So that's his girlfriend. Wow

  • @Sivart713
    @Sivart713 Рік тому +267

    Faith is sucha legend. Always enjoyed his play ever since he won ti. You know hes sucha good human being with him learning multiple languages to communicate with others around the world.

    • @cocoachocolates
      @cocoachocolates Рік тому +4

      Both Faith and Faith_bian are a legend.

    • @rii1286
      @rii1286 Рік тому +7

      @@cocoachocolates Talking about Faith, I feel sad at how Faith ended his carrier. Was a joy to watch during his IG years

    • @rumours1026
      @rumours1026 Рік тому +1

      You say sucha in sucha way dang thas sound cute

  • @ivanbolo2441
    @ivanbolo2441 Рік тому +333

    CEB AND FAITH BIAN IS THE BEST OFFLANER OF ALL TIME

    • @mkhasifal874
      @mkhasifal874 Рік тому +6

      Universe better

    • @bizzar97
      @bizzar97 Рік тому +46

      @@mkhasifal874 nice joke

    • @mischiefmanaged1726
      @mischiefmanaged1726 Рік тому

      dont forget mc

    • @trxsid
      @trxsid Рік тому +13

      bulldog

    • @aandyvalentine
      @aandyvalentine Рік тому +31

      @@trxsid People forgot about bulldog coz he's such a memer but he was a beast back then, literally cannot be countered with 3 hero pool. Ban 2 heroes, 2 worries first phase the one left.

  • @Dazen101
    @Dazen101 Рік тому +82

    Honestly, I'm really impressed he makes the effort to do the podcast in english.

  • @Glenuig
    @Glenuig Рік тому +52

    Great to see Faith Bian on the show. Big love to them all from China

  • @geniusNikoLa
    @geniusNikoLa Рік тому +101

    FAITH_BIAN is one of my favorite dota 2 player since Wings.. such a nice and humble guy

  • @jhansenduca1478
    @jhansenduca1478 Рік тому +91

    The idea of having a podcast with legends is just amazing guys. No matter where they are from, we get to know their Dota story! This podcast is the way to connect pro players more! You guys are just amazing. I will surely miss faith_bian. Hope he comes back.

  • @MrEmsc22
    @MrEmsc22 Рік тому +55

    This faith bian guy is the living embodiment of GIGACHAD

  • @daveswert5568
    @daveswert5568 Рік тому +75

    Much respect towards JMR for bringing Faith Bian on the OG show 👍👍

  • @glassman4443
    @glassman4443 Рік тому +69

    In my experience, Faith Bian is one of the few native Chinese Pros willing to talk a bit in pubs to random people in English, really nice guy.

    • @yuqiwang7008
      @yuqiwang7008 Рік тому +10

      It’s not because other Chinese player unwilling to talk but just due to language barrier. Actually we are very happy to see this kind of podcast involving both Chinese and western dota players as well😂

    • @glassman4443
      @glassman4443 Рік тому

      @@yuqiwang7008 that is a fair point

  • @r1j3L
    @r1j3L Рік тому +20

    Thank you for saving this day.

  • @MM-vs2et
    @MM-vs2et Рік тому +16

    Bian is such a gem in the Dota community. I wished it didn't take his retirement for us to get this more inclusive interviews with him

  • @kangparkeer
    @kangparkeer Рік тому +62

    Faith Bian, one of the most humble player in dotA2. Happy retirement!

  • @jasonleong6791
    @jasonleong6791 Рік тому +79

    Thanks to Yun and Faith_Bian representing the China-born/educated Chinese.... humble, hardworking, eager to learn and friendly! Its sad that there was no fairytale ending in this TI...... But thanks for everything you've done for the Dota2 Pro-Scene.... especially with WINGS GAMING.

    • @mgdf44
      @mgdf44 Рік тому

      how about the chinese but not born in china and uneducated chinese?

  • @dailehoang7195
    @dailehoang7195 Рік тому +74

    amazing podcast, thanks for bringing Faith_Bian to us. I'm 31 rn, stop playing dota 5 6 years ago but still follow OG's every step. A lot of good moments back then.

  • @ratovicius1
    @ratovicius1 Рік тому +25

    By far the best episode so far. Not only faith_bian is a legend, but having the Chinese perspective which is so obscure for western audiences. Thanks for this.

  • @MuhammadAnas-ct5om
    @MuhammadAnas-ct5om Рік тому +21

    Faith and Ceb are the absolute best offlaners of all time to play the game. I've never hit like button faster than I did before this video. This is the greatest creation of OG org thank you so much monkey business for the pleasure of having the three legends share their experience. This is a gem I never thought I'd ever witness my two most favorite offlaners together as I'm also an offlaner and I look up to these guys. ❤️ ❤️

    • @naix_di_cave
      @naix_di_cave Рік тому

      Faith is different from Faith_bian, they're 2 different Chinese players

  • @srenkierkegaard6433
    @srenkierkegaard6433 Рік тому +4

    Wings 2016 is the best man! If I can turn back time to watch them live again, I really would do it

  • @kyawaye6153
    @kyawaye6153 Рік тому +6

    Faith Bian Rocks, All the best for your dream💪, Will miss u for sure and will always hope you to comeback.

  • @palacepma6849
    @palacepma6849 Рік тому +7

    I just watched this episode in more than two hours. There are just parts of your conversations that makes me rewind it and hear it again and again. I wish that all of your wish come true like the connecting east and west in either creating teams with one another, or sharing the news and memes so that everyone can have a laugh, understand and emphatize with the players situations. You guys are amazing!

  • @mynameisjasonL14
    @mynameisjasonL14 Рік тому +10

    Besides the language barrier, these guys all share the same views and understanding of DOTA and life in general . I’m so glad this crossover happened. Keep it coming

  • @lorenzogerhard
    @lorenzogerhard Рік тому +13

    Much respect to faith bian to come to the show. Hope he’s living a happy life after the retirement 😇😇

  • @lancepr
    @lancepr Рік тому +19

    JMR, you are doing great things for esports, thanks!

  • @kazookiddo7605
    @kazookiddo7605 Рік тому +26

    33 and Faith.bian are the best and most influential offlaners I have ever seen.

    • @johnvincentsoriano5608
      @johnvincentsoriano5608 Рік тому

      Facts, this tundra and wings are so much alike

    • @embeeeeeeeeeeeeert4554
      @embeeeeeeeeeeeeert4554 Рік тому +12

      @@johnvincentsoriano5608 Not really. Trundra abuses auras while picking and setting up meta heroes while Wings doesn't care about the meta but to go for a counter pick and choose hero what they feel like playing.

    • @philacapulco9933
      @philacapulco9933 Рік тому

      @@johnvincentsoriano5608 they are not the same, wings is a counterpicking team and has a lot of playstyles depending on the situation. While tundra is an aura based team they don’t care if you counter pick them they will just overwhelm you with their illusion heroes and micro units

    • @carlobunagan6681
      @carlobunagan6681 Рік тому

      @@philacapulco9933 and og, making their own meta

  • @MrGLASSCANON
    @MrGLASSCANON Рік тому +26

    two of the best offlaner of all time.

  • @gclcreativedesigner2611
    @gclcreativedesigner2611 Рік тому +10

    Fiath Bian is indeed a Legend! One of the strongest I've seen. Hope he's an OG :) He has a true heart of a champion.

  • @Vaxsysl
    @Vaxsysl Рік тому +3

    This was such a wholesome episode. Thank you for sharing this with us.

  • @MrLifeIsAwesomeForUs
    @MrLifeIsAwesomeForUs Рік тому +6

    the best brewmaster player ever.. everytime he plays brew, micro is so on point all time gege legend

  • @francispiolonunez9759
    @francispiolonunez9759 Рік тому +2

    Best episode so far, so wholesome, so much emotions i almost shed a tear no cap!! LOVE THESE GUYS

  • @RPS_FFRK
    @RPS_FFRK Рік тому +8

    Gigachad Faith Bian, humble, inspiring.
    Fun, wholesome episode, nice sharing of stories. 💪😁

  • @X2beta2
    @X2beta2 Рік тому +13

    My boi Chad bian, this what so nice to watch !
    The respect and admiration was amazing to watch, love it guys bring Matu and the tundra guys next :)

  • @pamrnbr
    @pamrnbr Рік тому +30

    I'm on the 50 minute mark and I already conclude that this is the best episode of OG's Monkey Business Show

    • @jerisisjoe9409
      @jerisisjoe9409 Рік тому

      yeah..

    • @ungabunga345
      @ungabunga345 Рік тому

      The live ones from the international were even better imo

    • @pamrnbr
      @pamrnbr Рік тому

      Like when will you ever hear Faith Bian talk this long in English? haha LEGEND

  • @tearpear12
    @tearpear12 Рік тому +1

    wow, phenomenal episode! I'm extremely appreciative of the effort for this video

  • @er6946
    @er6946 Рік тому +8

    Good luck in retirement Bian, you're my idol and I hope you return one day

  • @BirgirD
    @BirgirD Рік тому +3

    Fantastic podcast/show. So cool hearing stories from both sides and the respect is awesome. Great job guys 👏👏

  • @oshu.hypeshckwv
    @oshu.hypeshckwv Рік тому +5

    Ever since ESL manila. I immediately rooted for them to win TI. ESL manila keeps calling them randoming hero. So as a filipino I was excited to watch them on Manila Major. But they lost. then saw Blink outside the arena. No one even knew he was a pro player. Filipinos don't care about him. I asked him to take a pic but his chinese friend said that they are running late on a schedule. Then WINGS gaming is the only battle pass bracket prediction that I got right winning TI. Who would have knew that I had encountered a TI mid champion that day on manila major. I remember my friends thinking that I was funny rooting for them to win TI. Good times. Wings Gaming one of the best teams ever assembeld.

  • @seangregory2835
    @seangregory2835 Рік тому +4

    Incredible episode. So much insight. To think one of the teams heralded as having the greatest chemistry literally fought each other in the lead up to their TI win.

  • @andigg1586
    @andigg1586 Рік тому +6

    So cool Faith Bian is speaking in English. I learned how to speak English while playing dota plus studying and watching english movies. I met faith (WV) last Manila Major and I was hoping that I will see him on TI in Singapore but no luck. Good thing I met Johan so cool!!! OG hub is really cool btw

  • @lord_rimuru_sama
    @lord_rimuru_sama Рік тому

    This episode is something else... big respect for both and an amazing interview...

  • @moutmout5290
    @moutmout5290 Рік тому +11

    That podcast was amazing!! Faith Bian is fascinating to listen to. Btw, since he said he wanted to give back some of his knowledge to the community but he didn't know how, you could make it happen. Put him in a room with Ceb and Notail and let them talk about anything they find interesting in Dota or Dota history and film it. The biggest Dota nerds in the world talking about Dota. It would be the best content ever :D

    • @duxkface
      @duxkface Рік тому

      we need to upvote this

  • @ppensen
    @ppensen Рік тому +3

    What a career and so sad he's retiring so early! Only 24! Puppey is still cracking at 32! Wish Faith bian all the best chasing his new dream.

  • @dankvada4588
    @dankvada4588 Рік тому

    awesome that you guys made it happen. heckin love Faith_Bian - congrats to an awesome career.

  • @nickglenn4946
    @nickglenn4946 Рік тому +1

    Just being in this podcast already showed how courageous he is. Salute !

  • @ZurcEVO
    @ZurcEVO Рік тому +6

    More of these with Eastern region. Fun to listen to. Great job OG!

  • @thoursandawesome1663
    @thoursandawesome1663 Рік тому +16

    btw, look at Faith Bian's eyes GF. Damn dude, how she looks at Faith Bian is explained How grateful and prideful she is for having Faith Bian as a part of her life. I am jealous, I can't lie and I am happy at the same time because my Idol (Faith Bian) can enjoy everything.
    Good luck to all of you. All the best.
    I wish I could see you again as a pro player, including Notail and Ceb.
    Sorry for my bad grammar.

  • @3k866
    @3k866 Рік тому +3

    The episode was amazing, absolute legends !

  • @detockz
    @detockz Рік тому +6

    Loved this. Was amazing to hear the thoughts of a Chinese dota legend.

  • @justinoliveros4343
    @justinoliveros4343 Рік тому +3

    Faith Bian, I remember magnus play, He blink RP but enemy was fast to blink out. But Faith Bian also fast to see enemy blink out cancels rp. 0.01 sec mygad.

  • @akshayn1011
    @akshayn1011 Рік тому +7

    easily the best episode. and just watching faith_bian make the effort to speak english makes me so happy. hoping for more content with chinese players. we have missed out on that all these years due to language barrier. hope things change.

  • @alvinjohnmosca2067
    @alvinjohnmosca2067 Рік тому +2

    what an amazing episode, great job everyone!

  • @WallMad6
    @WallMad6 Рік тому

    Awesome! I hope we will get a second podcast with them in the future

  • @yuqiwang7008
    @yuqiwang7008 Рік тому +3

    watching faith bian trying to deliver his thoughts in English and everyone else just sitting here willing to listen, it’s just so good. First time a Chinese player has the chance to voice in world. I was more than happy as a Chinese Dotaer.

  • @christianramos8454
    @christianramos8454 Рік тому +1

    i cant believe i watch and listen to this from intro to the end, i didn't expect this would be entertaining especially when you can relate and watch most of the moments and memories they talk about in this podcast. Its just a bit sad that most legendary players that became the foundation of dota now a days are starting to move on from dota but still their memories and legacy lived continuously to every devoted and once became a fanatic players of this game. Im happy but it is what it is , good luck to the next chapter of faith bians journey as a pianist! I'm sure he will be great again. Lives on!

  • @blackipman
    @blackipman Рік тому +3

    This is such a cool episode. Breaking borders with some of my favourite Dota people!

  • @WorldEaterZero
    @WorldEaterZero Рік тому +1

    This was a great episode! Love how Faith Bian can speak full conversation by himself in comparison to some pros who basically have English as their native tongue but still are shy and not confident to speak at lengths

  • @DerLarks
    @DerLarks Рік тому

    just gotta love them all, thx guys!

  • @mjodyh
    @mjodyh Рік тому +3

    He's a very good pro player and super humble and chill outside of the game
    Kudos Ruida!
    This podcast is a fun one to watch from start till end

  • @elizabethomosura7586
    @elizabethomosura7586 Рік тому

    I've been wanting to watch this yesterday but I have worked. But I am now! Such happiness in one video💜

  • @dalemacerin7611
    @dalemacerin7611 Рік тому +10

    faith's english is gddamn understandable coming from learning it from late age I think?

  • @gustavofring3259
    @gustavofring3259 Рік тому +19

    I always enjoy watching Faith_Bian speaking english cause he's like really respecting the language and also tries hard just to communicate to others. This guy is a chad

  • @miksyapan4914
    @miksyapan4914 Рік тому

    after a busy schedule, finally I had the enough time to finish this video. Faith is really an awesome guy and a legend in Dota. Dota fans will surely miss you in the competitive scene. Thank you for sharing your Dota journey, and many thanks to Notail, Ceb & JMR for having Fatih bian in this show. KUDOS to all people behind this Monkey Business Show.

  • @firewalk101
    @firewalk101 Рік тому +10

    Amazing insight of how vastly different cultures raise talent in their respective regions different ways for the same game we all love. Thankyou for this special episode of the podcast!

  • @pamrnbr
    @pamrnbr Рік тому +3

    LEGEND! and I really appreciate him for trying to speak in English for us to understand him and like connect with him directly. Like, he really doesn't have to but he did. What a legend.

  • @Pobe86
    @Pobe86 Рік тому

    Aweseome Interview / Podcast. Thanks for that!

  • @MerrasMies
    @MerrasMies Рік тому +3

    I like the way you showed us highlights from the Summit Wings vs OG!

  • @Gerard021
    @Gerard021 Рік тому

    Great episode, looking forward for more of this!

  • @bazag
    @bazag Рік тому +3

    i remember that shadow faceless. he would go linkens and assault cuirass which no other void build even today and still win every game he played that build. that patch was really great yes

  • @failgamerful
    @failgamerful Рік тому +1

    Faith bian's english has improved so good since the last time I heard him talk. Good for him to show confidence to talk in the show.

  • @imardeereyes
    @imardeereyes Рік тому +5

    Best dota content in UA-cam. Nice work OG!

  • @xiaoyiyingmusic
    @xiaoyiyingmusic Рік тому +1

    Love this interview! Bian is a great player.

  • @ZekiePlays
    @ZekiePlays Рік тому

    Great episode! Really enjoyed it!

  • @amplesstratleholm7609
    @amplesstratleholm7609 Рік тому +5

    Dunno why, but seeing Notail fanboy over someone else gives a smile to my face. I saw it on the Grubby episode, and he also does it here. We also get to see Ceb fanboy, so that's an incredible bonus.
    I loved seeing old Wings. First saw them play against Secret with a position 4 KotL. I mostly gravitated towards Blink because of his mean Invoker and the mid position is really flashy and casual viewer-friendly. On TI10 I wish that LGD won it, if only to have y' and FB repeat as TI winners and make up for the fact that Wings weren't able to defend their title.
    Rooting for Faith_Bian on his piano journey.
    Thank you guys for this.

  • @SynG4t3s
    @SynG4t3s Рік тому +3

    THE GREATEST OFFLANER IN THE HISTORY OF DOTA IS HERE BAY BAY, THE MAN THE MYTH THE LEGEND, THE KINGSLAYER, THE REIGNING DEFENDING UNDISPUTED HEAVYWEIGHT CHAMPION OF DOTA FAITHHHHH BIANNNNNNN

  • @finnvongehr3892
    @finnvongehr3892 Рік тому

    Absolutely amazing!

  • @RicardoGarcia-tf5vy
    @RicardoGarcia-tf5vy Рік тому +2

    Best episode so far!!

  • @lijames8989
    @lijames8989 Рік тому +5

    so much respect for Wings. It is legendary and history that is really hard to repeat itself in the future. Even for pros, they felt Dota back then was much fun. Now, even for TI, it feels like more and more about OP heros items.

    • @srenkierkegaard6433
      @srenkierkegaard6433 Рік тому

      They should have ask Bian how it feels to be last Chinese TI champ

  • @SAMMl
    @SAMMl Рік тому

    whoaa..... this is an amazing interview.

  • @DuckyVanya
    @DuckyVanya Рік тому

    One of my favourite podcast episodes I have ever watched!

  • @algorix8420
    @algorix8420 Рік тому +2

    Hearing Faith bian talking about the Goldberg variations to ceb and notail... Holy, this is a hell of a timeline

  • @standfirm5506
    @standfirm5506 Рік тому +1

    Im amazed you can get faith bian
    And amaze too how improve his english!!
    Faith bian should be still around in dota scene i hope

  • @boin6070
    @boin6070 Рік тому +2

    One of the best podcast I've ever watch. Love Faith_Bian. Hope all the best on his future

  • @schneeraizor7020
    @schneeraizor7020 Рік тому +1

    this episode is really good.
    not only we have ceb-notail combo, but faith freakin bian.
    im sad to let him go honestly, hes one of the best offlane i look up to, the best in chinese teams i guess.
    but goodluck to him for his next journey.
    and good job monkey business for bringing him.
    its refreshing to see one of the best players share his story with non-chinese speaker.

  • @nikkibam3831
    @nikkibam3831 Рік тому

    Honestly, I've never watched an episode from start to finish. This one's the only time. Showing glimpses of what could be when east meets west and the language and cultural barriers.

  • @nikolapopovic1070
    @nikolapopovic1070 Рік тому

    Ty for this amazing podcast

  • @xerxesmontes9828
    @xerxesmontes9828 Рік тому

    What a great podcast. Thank you!

  • @greyteeth8158
    @greyteeth8158 Рік тому +5

    25:09 those hero pools!

  • @matheo4934
    @matheo4934 Рік тому +1

    amazing podcast. thanks OG org and faith bian org.

  • @Fadhil-fdl
    @Fadhil-fdl Рік тому

    Thanks legend, so humble faith bian

  • @ariefrahman7366
    @ariefrahman7366 Рік тому

    This episode is so cool man!!

  • @ifyouseekey7043
    @ifyouseekey7043 Рік тому

    Thank you for doing this podcast.

  • @gemthemage
    @gemthemage Рік тому +3

    I need more, i need more of this. We need a part 2 please. Make it happen Redbull please

  • @bossx86
    @bossx86 Рік тому +3

    OG, you guys have outdone yourselves. Great episode.

  • @edufirst5138
    @edufirst5138 Рік тому +2

    Thanks Man, i hope from Faith Bian, and OG, they can open the door to make some journey from Chinese to Europe.
    I feel so much pressure when Chinese team and European team meet in any competition, so i guess every player in Europe or Chinese can study other languages. Because, like SEA and SA, they just understanding this language from 2 other regions.

  • @selfdescedgelord7699
    @selfdescedgelord7699 Рік тому

    I really have great respect for people who try to learn languages that are vastly different from the ones they learnt at their school since kindergarten.
    It is the confidence to speak and not fearing nor caring about judgement and ridicule I admire

  • @rodrigo-ho8ll
    @rodrigo-ho8ll Рік тому +8

    Ponganle subtitulos a esta entrevista porfa, creo que estás palabras y todo lo que hablan les hará bien para los jugadores de SA que lidian con los insultos y comentarios de la gente.

  • @nykxssss
    @nykxssss Рік тому +8

    FB is one of the best players coming out of the east. Absolute legend. Great to hear his thoughts. He and FY made me respect china dota as talent players,not just hard workers.
    Edit:
    Would love to see miracle/matu on this show sometime. Talk about the early monkey business days and their time together in liquid.

  • @wrc3087
    @wrc3087 Рік тому +2

    legends unite 🥺🥺❤