OG vs SECRET - TI10 INCREDIBLE PLAYOFFS - THE INTERNATIONAL 10 DOTA 2
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- Опубліковано 11 жов 2021
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OG vs SECRET - TI10 INCREDIBLE PLAYOFFS - THE INTERNATIONAL 10 DOTA 2
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For anyone wondering where is the crowds from, valve decided to use AI crowds on day 6 onwards (main stage). Basically the AI detect how much stuff happening at that time (damage, save, kill, skill usage, etc) and react accordingly, and it turns out good. Altho sometimes its funny, like the crowds goes wild when roshan die, eventho there is no war involved.
Summary
First day - no crowds (valve got critics)
Second day- fake crowds (valve got more critics)
Third and fourth day - dotaTV build up crowds (good but kinda off timing everything the build up full, the war already over)
Main stage - AI crowds. Turns out pretty well. Whoever codes that crowd only in 2 days deserve a win.
Yea totally deserve it. I really liked this new fake crowd even of its not perfect. And I think LoL will copy it or they already have it?
@@lokanantazain lol
Fake Crowd > CN Crowd
Twitch Chat👆🏼😂
I dont think it was made in two days.
DotaTV crowd was so buggy...the crowd could stay silence whole game and scream it at 40 min whe nothing happened
Nisha is so damn underrated man. He's just like the Miracle of pre-TI6 OG where you pick any hero for him at mid and he just scales uncontrollably well. Tho not as flashy, his versatility and consistency is topnotch.
it helps when matu absorbs all the attention
Ceb and topson game two, most of the time they use disable skills are missed especially Ceb stun. And then Puppy’s interview after the match was savage. “Stay down”
Puppey was like you had your turn twice! Time for something new.
OG, 2 games without stable stun heros, main reason to lose
@@RahulNegi1409 hahahahahaha..games won before and fans said it was sharingan..now they lost fans blamed the eye..
@@RahulNegi1409 fangay
@@RahulNegi1409 copium
Secret got OG in the choke hold and didn't let go until the series was over.
thats kinda kinky
like ur mom last night
@@ymscottie LOL nice
@@todd3143 hey, no kink shaming
@@yameteonii-chan7113 i wasn't...
Feels good to be able to say that my Archon team plays like OG on that 2nd game
Hahahaha
I do feel better after watching OG, didn't get stomped with less than 10 kills 😁.
Don't be too excited noob
I think they are trying to avoid PSG.. so they went to lower bracket.
@@Meow-ls2bu lmao og fangay spotted
Team secret training with team elephant is paying off. Invoker with no agh and faceless void skipping bash early game was necessary to unlock their ultra instinct.
When you know, like, when someone picks LC second, you know they kinda lost
-Sumail TI7 newbee vs liquid game 2 finals
OG winning = viewers up to 200k in less than 5 hours, OG losing = viewers down to 100k in 7 hours.... Cave must be full house at the moment.
Nisha is becoming a problem for OG, they don't put any pressure in mid allowing him to get his items, topson got dumstered in game 2 as well. Secret is looking sharp.
Topson both games such low impact... in fact, all TI he’s been low impact... overrated player IMO, huge weak link
@@strawhatkun6238 Not necessarily low impact, its just that secret read OG like a book. They know what to expect from topson and prepared counter measures accordingly
nop. zai is the key
@@strawhatkun6238 Also in game 1, Topson give a bit of a breathing room for sumail to farm his items. But yea, its unfortunate for them because Secret's draft is superior in that game
@road runner honestly you’re right, let me rephrase. This patch, I think he’s been very underwhelming. You look at NTS or nisha, they have such high impact on game outcomes. Idk, topson’s presence feels negligible
EU has a weird big three triangle. OG owns Nigma, Nigma owns Secret, Secret owns OG. Secret has like an 80% winrate against OG. That was such a demoralizing way to lose
nigma doesnt own matu secret. in fact they wiped the floor with nigma except once i think
Secret Copied Noypi meta
TS stepped on Nigma multiple times
Puppey > Kuroky in terms of drafting
@@ad7265 Secret lost to Nigma the last 3 internationals though
@@sukinano9433 where was nigma last ti?
2nd game is a stomp, and it's more than 2.25seconds at lvl4 Centaur
Hahahah
Really entertaining series. Secret completely put down and stomped OG in the 2nd game, straight up outdrafted and outplayed them.
og is no longer og lol
@@mehdisherif2972 reason
@@halfbadboy3250 the players are fed ? I mean topson gave an interview where he said that he is retiring after this. How hungry can he be ?
@@Sonyhdh excuse og lose 0-2 😆 let that sink in 😆
@@halfbadboy3250 how is that an excuse lol
As an OG fan i will return back to my cave 😂
I respect that my friend
Lessgo my friend
luckily im multi fan, still rooting for ig and psg..Hopefully OG can win from lower bracket, but not with today draft and strat
WAHAHAHAHAHAHA
I already live there
“nigma fan”
whenever they're in a difficult situation OG picks hoodwink, and it's always useless
feels like nigma windranger tbh
@@levisamom5069 w33 was a dark time in nigmas history regarding draft problems, and they always have those.
@@levisamom5069 more like tide&ta of nigma (still love them tho)
Hoodwink mid seems weak to me :/
Secret with bristleback
sometimes stomp is so huge that you dont feel like flaming OG XD
That defeat itself was a flame lmao. No need of additional flames xD
Stay Down
-Puppey
When CEB tip wrong person (puppy) and he end the game by 1/10 😂
actually ceb is better player than puppey
@@dimitrispapadopoulos7463 very good joke(no).
@@dimitrispapadopoulos7463 HHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA NICE JOKE
@@dimitrispapadopoulos7463 How??? And how are you comparing pos 5 player with a pos 3? If you want to compare then do Zai vs Ceb
@@dimitrispapadopoulos7463 define better player now ,its a TI upper bracket and also we know puppey is captain and he calls shots for team secret and here even though notail is captain we all know CEB is the mastermind for everything ,now OG rekt secret so obviously puppey better player and captain
god damn that 2nd game stomp was so brutal og even stopped voice line spam
Basically OG in every match when they are going to lose 🤡
2nd game is so chaos that OG even stopped spamming voice line and reconsidering their existence in this universe
Quick fact: OG and Secret never met and matched against each other in TI8 and TI9. Secret always loses to EG, while EG loses to OG.
Rock-paper-scissors, eh?
your wrong secret always lose to liquid which is nigma rn and not on eg.. and now no nigma means no counter for secret this ti only if they can manage to beat Chinese teams especially lgd..
@@rdxone7979 Yes!
@@shred9178 It's an every TI matchup. Try to check the upper bracket result of the TI8 and TI9. You will see what I mean.
@@shred9178 secret vs lgd will be legendary this TI
Topson: cant lose my 100% TI finals win rate if i don't reach the finals. *Topson pointing at you*
Jokes aside game 2 was painful to watch. Was expecting a closer game regardless of who win.
The mid match, squirrel vs tinker. It was doom
SECREKT: "Never gonna lose a final, if never been in a final" 🙃
their draft have no answer for tinker
@@MrLanxiu Their draft had no answer for mote than Tinker. Game was basically over at 10 minutes into the game, this isn't a sympthom of one hero getting out of control.
@GAURAV pandey I’ve been watching many group stage games, trust me either TS or OG hardly compare to nowadays LGD and IG (sad to say) Through these 2 games with OG you can clearly see, their coaching (Zai highly commended their coach after the BO3) such as countering OG’s style from BP, and the outstanding performance from Nashi, were the keys for them to dominate OG But to be honest, beyond that they didn’t really have some bright or shining moments from the other players or excellent group cooperations which LGD and IG have been showing much better performance. I had to say TS can’t go far but OG is much worse from today’s game, OG is done in the main stages, lack of variant draft style and way too heavy depends on Sumail, horrible performance from Topson, total overwhelming BP mindset, I’m not saying they were dumb to the BP but it shows their weakness is too real and they’re truly reaching their limits (I AM a OG fan :(
Comparing with several years ago, nowadays Nisha is so strong, he did a great job developing as a midlaner
For sure, he isnt a midlaner but now he grew to be the one that u can count on midlane
Not only was OG outdrafted, it also felt like OG just didnt know how to draft in this match at all. Absolutely dumpstered by Secret
True.. no stuns no catch and no-one to tank, no initiation
Ceb also plays a major role in drafting, I think their bad draft was also caused by ceb's condition, we don't know how many painkillers did he drank, or how his eyesight affect his play. It really breaks my heart to see them becoming literal Monkeys
@@satriaji5612 anymore excuses?
@@satriaji5612 copium XD
@@Ame-pt4el lmao 🤣 🤣
This is incredible timing sir! the match just got over a few mins ago! wp gg!
looks like puppey made his homework. secret draft looks casual but actually very effective.
like the good old Navi's days
shaker combo with morph aswell as aa good gomework indeed
Secret actually outdrafted OG in game 2. Specially that ench and tinker pick.
Long have we Secret fans waited.
Tbh head to head we destroyed OG a lot of times, just they managed to dodge us at TI
@@im_Smitty Secret has always rekt OG and OG wouldn't have won TI if they faced Secret.
No kuro this year, maybe this time Secret will be lifting the aegis
@@Jecht1221 You got that right, my friend.
finally 😭
That game 2 was absolutely beautiful. If they play like that all the time they can win ti. Props for og not giving up
Ceb: Guess we need to pick IO
Sumail: Yeah, IO is a perfect support for Ursa
Ceb:
Sumail: IO Pos 4 r-right!???
Ceb: guess we need to pick MK
Sumail: damn, now I get to see Topson smash the game with MK
Ceb:
Sumail: Topson is playing MK right??
You guys made the good point Lmaoi
Really want to see Zai win a TI. Legendary player that doesn't get enough credit, so versatile and seems to be a great teammate.
yeah from watching his interview seems like a very cool guy in general
same here
been rooting for zai since his Secret days in TI5. truly versatile and a great play/space maker during those days and up until now. he deserves the aegis.
ti5?
@@justinblanco7454 He didn’t win TI5
Puppey + Heen = drafting gods. OG felt like they’re just memeing with Secret.
Exactly my thoughts. Og too memey
Og draft is always about meme. Dota2 Memelord wasnt there thats why it didnt work.
21:16 this is how u feel when u play with adrenaline in high level. the hype and the emotional forgetting the risk. Nisha almost die, haha.. WP Nisha. love the tinker game .
Zai is such a solid offlaner, been watching him since EG. Really hope hes gonna win TI this year, or EG. Artour deserves it
Fly is gonna get sick, and zai will join eg and win ti with rtz. You heard it here first
But with a disappointing group stage for eg, i doubt they can win this ti10, but secret have a good chance to win this tho
@@1337project9 lol
@@1337project9 fly is pos 5 😒 zai is pos 3. He should replace iceiceice. Not fly
@@okkayo5153 back then, while in EG both Zai and Cr1t were playing pos 4 and pos 5 together. They had really good chemistry, it was amazing to see both of them working together. He could pick Cr1t position and Cr1t would take again pos 5.
"I take offence when teams think they can win against us" lmao
well he didnt lie dude..must be offended now..
he takes offence when teams think they can stomp OG with 5-42
You guys so quick, literally went back from toilet and already uploaded
Ppl keep forgetting that nisha is one of the best mid player especialy when they win 8 tournament in a row .
Indeed
he is esport player of the year afterall and rare left handed player
Many started mocking Secret when they were doing poorly in the first half of the group stage, but forgot that this was once the most dominant team with greatest win streak record for a long period of time.
As an old Liquid fan i hope Matumbaman can lift his 2nd aegis. 💪🏿
Yea me too., hopefully matu n the team win the TI they all truly deserve it 😇
With his famous shorts😆😆
They have good reason since secret usually chokes on ti. Heres hoping secret is gonna win it all lets fucking go!
Secret is literally "The Boss" in any tournament. As soon as they aren't stomping evryone for the title, but instead ending up top 3 or 4 a few times, they are off their game. TI results are however the weakest ones. Hope things change this year!
And as an old Secret fan, hope Puppey can lift the aegis once more. 😎
OG look lost on the map movements without Jerax. This version of OG can't win Ti
Jerax also makes alot of great shot calls decision compare to Ceb and n0tail.
And topson too, he doesn't play like he used to.
Maybe their time is up
Yeah yeah Ogfangay
@@alienvisitor3612 topson is a beast on ti8 & ti9, because jerax carried his ass So much
AND???
Holy shit that game 2. I would have never expected a team like OG to be completely destroyed like that. Nisha and Yapzor are absolute monsters.
seem like OG has not recovered from those stunts in game 1
The way Team Secret played reminded me so much as to how OG used to play in TI9. OG got karma’d BIG TIME
true. very mobile heroes with one huge ult user, that first game gave me nightmares they look clueless against morph and ember just dancing around. dont ever mention that game 2 😂
is that toto wolf
@@valstephenpascua3457 yes it is lol
@@dreamsoda897 what a man of culture you are dude
The series just ended and it was upload immidiately, well played
Feels good man!
Nisha showing up big time with the unusual heroes for him. I always remembered hes ember , invo and tinker mediocore but looks like i was wrong. Peoples kept hyping Abed ember all day but what about Nisha he looks good as him if not better lol.
Yep he is getting better on these heroes
This is the main stage, no saving strat, just go 100%.
Nisha is the only dota player to win the player of the year in the goty , he is the best midlaner for 2 years straight
Nisha can play any hero that puppey pick for him😆he will turn into a beast if u let him free farm for ten minute...
@@rdxone7979 lol, Nisha in 2020 was the best midlanner, he is not performing so well, but he isnt mediocre at all.
Literally after the series ended, shout out man really good job
Its always entertaining when watching secret, og, nigma faces each other
OG after TI10 be like:
"we don't have ana and jerax that's why we lost"
I mean they won two TI's already.
@@GM-sn2vg TIME TO LOSE
Secret played really well. Its always a treat to see OG claw itself and win the TI 😅
OG: *disrespect by using chatwheel*
Secret: Hold my *322*
The match just ended and here we are a video from NoobfromUa .
Ah! 2nd game! Feels really good man! 😍
Zai played both on god level and on archon level with those skewer whiffs.
Zai had two sides LMAO
OG got stomped so hard that we Secret fans doesn't even need to flame them anymore XD Got totally silenced and no chat wheel spam damn that feels soooooo gooooodddd
you are wrong, OG is no OG without chatwheel
ikr, watching cocky team got stomped feelsgoodman
@@soksanses7033 haha, secret displaying how top tier professional gaming team should be. No unnecessary bm and stuff. Gg and move on, unlike og normalizing these kinda bm's in main stage. I love the way og plays, but what they bring to the community makes me think twice.
OG got global silenced 😂
@@4tehath lol you love their plays but you hate what they bring into the community? That is like saying you like pussy but hate how they act in public.
But real talk, you cant blame them as they were struggling in TI8 after fly left them and them having to win TI with all the doubts and negativity that started from the beginning or even qualifiers. They can be cocky but they sure deserve it nonetheless.
the crowd so excited just like never been there before or not having LAN for over a YEAR
finally some quality doto!
Man, you gotta love Nisha's reflex.
They should give the initiating heroes to ceb. IO and mk offlane is strong early but weak midgame cuz lack of damage and initiation.
Precisely. Ceb's strong suit is always Initiation. I get why they opt Io Offlane in the first game so that they, Io and Tusk, can harass the lane pretty easily and slow down the core farm at the process. It really worked, until the midgame when Secret decided to full Ice Blast combo the Io first.
MK Ceb however is really weird. I get it has mobility, initiation and damage but with an LC as well as Elder Titan, they shoulda change lane positions of each hero. Why not run LC Off which is an okay matchup with Ursa and make it Roam MK instead? They lack a tanky hero in that second game especially when Secret was utilizing an aggressive playstyle with the Ursa.
Either the meta is weird or I am just a scrub to not notice this lineup.
i think the strategy for og in game 1 was for sumail actually, they r all in to buff sumail ursa, but in my opinion sumail itemization wasnt really good in that match, i dont think aghs and bkb at the same time is the right item choice especially when its dragged to the late game, ursa will just fell apart, i just think that sumail should go for 1 of them actually, either aghs or bkb and just go straight to the abysall for the potential burst and lock, but anyway its just my opinion and ofc sumail is well knows as one of the best dota player and one of the talented one.
@@yukcetakorder8452 yah, the itemization wasn't really good, we can see team secret always escape with low hp against ursa because he can't burst them. He could've went for skadi or basher for damage against morph.
feel like og have different idea for the meta. and atm its clearly not working
The speed of your upload!!😂😂
OG fans be like “you don’t have aegis” like TS doesn’t have a legend that won the 1st ever TI and TI 2017 winner 😑
It does not make Secret a TI champ.
After watching this game OG almost seems outclassed? I guess secret vs LGD in the group stage was already a preview of the ti10 final
Bro no one can fight matumbaman
When he gets in the zone, only some can fight back
Nisha played really well, good to see him mature from the last 2 TI Loses
SUFAIL
This was my fav line up of Team Secret, so gutted when they announced the roster change..
Secret in TI form? Really love when they keep shout some sarcasm like that, and now they hide somewhere
I hope secret or some chinese team can win this TI. For secret, its bcoz im tired watchimg secret TI form. Its time to win TI. For chinese its bcoz TI winner tradition and also chance to proving that china dota is still good.
This probably has to be the most brutal stomp not just in Ti but in dota history
Zai matu and puppey throw a little bit
The different of captain that know how to draft and the captain that just draft whatever they feel like to play
Jz curious. Is there real crowd in there? Saw that riki meme thou
Nisha is an actual god of DOTES
legit best mid player atm.
Nisha half pinoy. That's why he's so good at doto
@@bpcurry4143 really??
@@alvinsantisantiago3110 No, he's an Australian-Indo. If you know, you know
He is not performing as well as he did in 2020
Nisha is 100 % Polish lol
OG have like a 20% winrate with Topson Hoodwink and Ceb MK, putting the two together was a real double whammy moment right from the start
yeah really thought it will be topson MK, or atleast tinker topson but nooo
And 0% with Io pos3
@@elmerofun6669 They only played two games with Ceb Io in the group stage and they won one of those
the first game draft is genius by secret.
OG has a lot of melee heros that needed to get close to do damage (tusk / ursa / mars), but there's also a lot of terrain makers in the game (fissure - both morph and es, ice shard, and coldfeet + wukong ult) all for area denial that's difficult for melee heroes to play around. to top it off secret has so much mobility with morph / ember / es / monkey, all can dash and kite for days. when OG get a pick off on puppy they already expended their gap closer, and the rest of the fight is so easy for secret, just kite around and play terrain and area denial
i don't get it with notail pick heavy item based hero for sup
dk and mars supp just not working
As an og fan,out of words.Tough to see them go down like this but oh well,secret played well.Respect to them.
Respect to you too bro. We need more respectful fans like you.
They played well but a secret fan i dont want to count them out until OG is elminitaed in LB. They are still the defending champs and they can still do this.
@Marifin - Who asked for your respect idiot? Lol.
@Marifin - Toxic idiots like you are not needed here in this respectful thread also who asked you to comment on my thread?.Grow up kid.
@Marifin - Hadeh indogs detected
Secret saving strats for main event be like
Yeah, they just pick tiny for matu on grupstage, and hell yeah. Og ban tiny, puppey pick morp, alsO ogre to enchan
This crowd, Valve improved the existing system or is it the video editing?
What a statement, from the draft to the finish!
Nisha with a combined kda of 33-3-40 in 2 games. What a monster!
Imagine kicking Matu for w33. Matu was never the reason why Nigma couldn't win against OG, OG simply outdrafted them. Shouldn't have tried blaming any one player when everyone did their part.
Also Yapzor and his signature WR. God damn how many amazing saves and clutch throughout the series. Unbelievable when considering that WR isn't even his best, which is Rubick and Shaker.
ua-cam.com/video/RrhccE2fw8k/v-deo.html
@@dota2heralds
Storm stealing aegis is nothing new. Infact it's demanded of any pro storms that's worth his salt to steal aegis atleast once in an international tournament.
I don't see the point you're trying to make here by showing it when I'm talking about Yapzor completely outplaying OG
@@SupaL33tKillar Matu was never a Nigma player. U mean Liquid?
@@Tauan_Vitor that's my point. They didn't take Matu along when they formed Nigma independently. He was basically kicked out of the squad.
The crowd energy level is like its a grand finals match. Love it haha
its fake crowd audio. TI 10 doesnt have crowd because covid case increases in Romania
@@radith4956 ahh right
Secret is completely dominating but why you doesn't show us the highlights of quincy crew matches
Topson always loses mid 😂 luckiest TI winner ever being carried hard
Whahaa
xD more ti dubs than your favorite team
Man thats so true. And he even said winning ti 2 times was "easy". Absolute cocky. No respect
luckiest? do you have brain?
And your faves are the unluckiest coz they will never experience the back 2 back feelings HAAHHAHAHA
Secret didn't choke, feels good
still early. Hoping to see Secret vs LGD. Highly anticipated
No midone this year, we probably gonna go to top 3-6.
Loves how those chatwheels and tipping got backfired
I enjoyed every moment of that game two
That was very expected , i mean , secret had been stomping og for more the 3 years , they have more the 70% winrate against them , only kuro and eg can win against secret
nigma doesn’t have a high win rate over secret
"First two were pretty easy, Why not get the third one"
This age didn't well
-Topson 2019
4 : 42 "incredible"
wonder where the crowd sound was recorded. sounds alright
yeah, no aegis for us this time. it was a good run. TY OG. Will always remain a fan though.
🌻🌻🌻
They are not out yet. Just helping secret as buddies to gain some confidence 😜
@@yikelomri9304 nice excuse
@@yikelomri9304 LMFAO
@@yikelomri9304 Amazing how you didn't mentioned how Secret have made zero mistake in both games. Typical OG fans
Fast from UA. The game literaly ended minutes ago.
10+ years of being an absolute beast at it. Thank you @NoobFromUA
4-1-23, 3-0-28, 7-2-28. That is sick how these 3 can swap priority of farm as well at any time.
did u put a filter on notail and puppey in the thumbnail lol
Weird draft & weird plays on the second game
Notail following Kuro's "creative" pos5 heroes?
Lul
In the past few TIs OG would never face secret since secret would be eliminated by kuro stack. People always wondered if OG would have really had a harder time of they faced Secret instead of Liquid (Now nigma). Well now we know.
Holy shit that's actually true
Inaccurate, OG changed 2 players from their original roster.
@@yunsha9986 same with Secret.
They been dodging Secret for too long! To consecutive Tis
well i dont think they have to worried that much...secret will lose one way or another always choke on TI
21:21 that shakleshot save from yapzor. So satisfying
I MEAN THE PRODUCTION IS SO AMAZING THAT THEY ARE ABLE TO PUT CROWD NOISES DURING THE GAME.
Outdrafted twice OG. It's not the same without JeRax and Ana, two brilliant DOTA players.
OFC its PUPPY the best drafter
442 is the new 322. damn massacre
Exactly as I predicted
This match is so intense
idek, ceb doesnt feel like an offlane at all. they're all just supports trynna ask sumail(the only real core) to carry them all.
And then sumail clinkz gets caught in the pit, just straggling behind. Unacceptable sloppy play. OG is not in top form. Maybe a lower bracket run can wake them up
I think that’s just their playstyle, it’s what they did with Ana and obviously it worked
Exactly. And Secret used that information to their advantage, thus the great drafts.
That’s what they been asking from Ana! :)
@@shawnwu5422 no it wasnt. They actually played real cores. Like pugna, gyro, bb, bloodseeker, axe. Not an io pos 3 or a support-like monkey king that misses all his stuns. No right?
The reason why Matumbaman's ursa is so good is he never put any cosmetics in that hero
#basicArmy
That game 1 pick was absolute eye opener. Just when you thought its just a pub game randoms but secret somehow pulled out perfect ploy, which i believes it led to easy game 2 after og mentally flatten
This is so satisfying