+michael pizzo you can't edgeguard in this game to kill at 0, even in other Smash games your opponent has to be pretty dumb to get edgeguarded at 0 percent
6:30 Ok, that was the most random kill i have ever seen. Well, at least now we can say that is possible to kill some one at 0% by an actual attack and not by a footstool or Mario's cape shenanigans.
+UltraMan21 I don't know if you got it. Sonic died at literally at 0%, even if it was at top or whatever, it should have done damage and then died from the knockback.
+Blester I'm not saying it wasn't bull. But I'm not wrong. The reason why he died is because of how close he was to the blast zone and of the moves based knockback, the first hit has a lot of based knockback. Even Luma's up air can kill from up there
It'd be physically impossible to come back after demoralization. You may as well quit, unless you can somehow play eye of the tiger in your head or something.
for all of you saying "this is bullshit and needs to be banned" keep this in mind, this was a VERY specific situation, it's not a common thing to have the exact spacing, rage, and positioning like this. it's not like mario did down throw to Uair Uair Uair Uair up B, and did a 0 to death. if it gets patched out then whatever, it brought us a hype and salty moment and it honestly shouldn't happen, but if it doesn't get patched out i doubt it will be exploited at all, it's way too situational.
Major bs....6wx had that game. Sometimes smash pisses me off....like losing to a roy at 45% from a single side smash in rage (140%) middle of the stage....
I love it when Sonic players lose. Every fucking move Sonic has is him rolling into a ball. Have to wait about for Sonic players to make a mistake if you want to win.
KratosIsKing How is that going to work exactly? If it was that easy then there would be no point in anyone using Sonic, he would be the worst character in the game by far
+vDom It's a shame that Sakurai designed him in such a way instead. As a Sonic fan, playing a hit-and-run punish game is okay I guess, but I would LOVE if Sonic was more of a Speed, Combos and Pressure-based character, like Fox. 6WX kind of makes this playstyle work to a point, but you can only fight the innate character design so much before hitting your limits.
Doc Snakes I agree with you. I actually think it makes sense how they made Sonic in this game, I still hate it though. I just get salty when I have a Sonic take me to Duck Hunt as a counter Pick and play out the clock. I wish that wasn't allowed but hey ho, it's part of the game. I like your suggestion of having him utilised more like Fox though.
Ally nodding his head like he is the coolest person. it really annoys me that THAT is his reaction. I would laugh or shake my head. But not nod like he just pulled some dank combo. smh
actually as a mario main i always have been wondering why ppl didnt just up b when sonic tries to follow up with trampoline, because i rarely see sonic players air dodge after up b and marios up b has such a fast start up and a high minimum knockback
www.google.com/amp/www.polygon.com/platform/amp/2016/11/21/13702500/pokemon-uranium-another-metroid-2-remake-the-game-awards-2016-removed Nintendo showing what complete assholes they are. XD
6:28 TKbreezy: ...and 6WX is actually just reacting to it. He's like "I don't..." *Ally KOs 6WX at 0% using Mario's Up-B* TKbreezy: No he didn't. _NO. HE. DIDN'T._ Sky: _OH NO. NO, NO, NO, NO, OH, NO, NO, NO, NO, NO. NO. NO._ Ally (to 6WX): *Nods head yes* TKbreezy: Look it -- he's like "Yup." (laughs) FIEND!!
My question is, why does Mario's cape let Sonic use his up B again? I thought one of the points of the move was to flip the opponent with no real knockback, but I guess not here...
Mugutu Mage Except the whole point of flipping opponents is that it doesn't do knockback, which I would think should be what makes a recovery move usable again. I guess this could make for an interesting team of Mario and Sonic, where the Mario could possibly make Sonic's recovery infinite without ever killing him.
it's also possible that the cape made sure sonic was alive long enough for the spring to disappear, which generally means sonic can up b again. I know what the point of the move is, I'm explaining why that happened
+James Brown Jr VA II Mario is one of the most broken characters in this game. He's fast, his smashes hit like a truck and has too many comboes that are way too easy to pull off. In hands of a good player like Ally, it's almost invincible.
6:31: Mario - What the Fu- What happened?! Sonic - Nintendo CONTINUES to screw me. This time, in SMASH!! Mario - I'm sorry Sonic. I'll slap the Shell out of Luigi! Sonic - Not really necesary Mario... -_-'
I don't think it is such a giant deal but when I first saw this, Ally's smug head nods and facial expressions kind of pissed me off a bit. If I was Ally and I accidentally pulled some shit jank move like that, even I too would be, "uhhhhh.... yeah that was kind of jank...." Ally here acts like it is a common occurrence and just nods his head like "yep that happens. You gotta watch out for that."
I think the bullshit part about this is not that he died at 0% (even though that is super crazy), but that Ally played it off like it wasn't luck. 6wx got robbed man
In this game, the first hit has high knockback to ensure the subsequent hits connect properly. But that also means that if they are reversed, then only the first hit with high knockback connects and that's what KO's them from the top of the stage.
Wow... get killed at 0%... My main is Sonic and I don't like playing against Mario, I just have the feeling that you just can try a spin dash and hope that you won't be punished, Sonic doesn't have good approaches (maybe it's just my feeling) and Mario... wow... Mario is, I think, one of the best character of this game, but I know that Sonic is also really good.
In fact he has an approach however, he has some ending lag and not a good range (except the Back air and the forward air). Mario is more agressive I think and that's why I have sometime problems to win against him. Sorry if you didn't understand me, I'm french and it's difficult for me to speak english x)
That wasnt even a Zero to Death. That was a Zero Death.
+Steph Curry I feel like that was a glitch or something... How did Sonic not even take a single percent? Was it like a .5% hit or something?
first hit of mario up does most knockback
+Red Legend probably around .5%.6% With the first hit of the Mario up b
+Steph Curry ZeRo was not playing in this match.
what you doing here steph shouldnt you be losing a final right now
On this day we saw 6WX die at 0%...
Not even from an edgeguard or sd
0.6% *
+michael pizzo you can't edgeguard in this game to kill at 0, even in other Smash games your opponent has to be pretty dumb to get edgeguarded at 0 percent
flood vs a reallllly bad for fun lil mac
6:30 Ok, that was the most random kill i have ever seen. Well, at least now we can say that is possible to kill some one at 0% by an actual attack and not by a footstool or Mario's cape shenanigans.
Well they were near the top blast zone and Mario's first hit on up b has a high based knockback
+UltraMan21 I don't know if you got it. Sonic died at literally at 0%, even if it was at top or whatever, it should have done damage and then died from the knockback.
+Blester I'm not saying it wasn't bull. But I'm not wrong. The reason why he died is because of how close he was to the blast zone and of the moves based knockback, the first hit has a lot of based knockback. Even Luma's up air can kill from up there
***** It's not even worthy to be called "0 to Death", this shall be called in the history of Smash as the infamous "0% Death".
Ike's aether spike kills at 0%, too.
id just forfeit after that 0% death
+JAJAvsWORLD Your pic is how he felt after that 0% death haha
tripletz plz
It'd be physically impossible to come back after demoralization.
You may as well quit, unless you can somehow play eye of the tiger in your head or something.
6:26
The bit you're all here for.
Zero. Percent.
I feel so blessed to have been in the audience for this.
That 0% kill shows how Sega died
11/10 IGN not a good meme
Not yet. Because Sonic Mania.
Juddmeister Dreamcast Sonic Mania is being made by Sonic Fanbase programmers, Sega's charred corpse is but a symbolic representator.
Nah the comment is irreverent when the Yakuza games are boosting Sega's sales. Oh and Sonic Mania and Project Sonic look to be boosting it even more.
Project 2017 too.
for all of you saying "this is bullshit and needs to be banned" keep this in mind, this was a VERY specific situation, it's not a common thing to have the exact spacing, rage, and positioning like this. it's not like mario did down throw to Uair Uair Uair Uair up B, and did a 0 to death. if it gets patched out then whatever, it brought us a hype and salty moment and it honestly shouldn't happen, but if it doesn't get patched out i doubt it will be exploited at all, it's way too situational.
Lol, GRsmash needs to highlight this.
True
But its not melee
+Cristian 97 he does SOME smash 4 clips
Take a look at the top 10 bodied by cpu moments
MNM of course it's not, it's super smash bros 4 in 3DS & WII U
@@godspeed6096
Nat Bandy?
Honestly, if Smashville and Town and City had good music, they'd be legendary stages.
Go K.K rider is pretty good and hype but I understand what you mean.
"This is going to be an interesting match."
I'm actually salty from just watching this *facepalm*
+2dKraken I seen it live & i was Salty as well..
gttt
Same like damn that's bs.
These were some of the most insane battles I've ever seen in Smash 4! This Matchup is awesome! :D
LOL, you gotta love Etika in the background with that BibleThump face.
Blester wheres Etika?
Have fun in the Shadow Realm, Sonic.
I've never seen a KO off the top at 0%, that is some BOOTY
6:30 This started a civil war in a country somewhere.
6:29 damnit aura.
Aura/rage wasn’t even much of a factor.
@slimballs9650 dawg this was 8 years ago
@@gamelikingstill wasn’t much of a factor
@mattyB9861 I know man it was a joke 😭
@@gameliking lmaoo
This was bs. I don't even care that I don't like fighting Sonic
+Mayowa Are it's shit like that makes me want to never play this game again...
It's shit like this that makes me love this game so much.
Major bs....6wx had that game. Sometimes smash pisses me off....like losing to a roy at 45% from a single side smash in rage (140%) middle of the stage....
it happens,lol
+Derek Lewis
imagine getting wave shines off the stage as Falcon then shine spiked.... twice
6:29
The true "0-death"
when 6:29 happened I was fucking speechless.
my god. XD
L
"No, he didn't! No, he didn't!
"NO, NO, NO, NO, NO, NO, OH, NO NO"
>Ally: yeup
I love it when Sonic players lose. Every fucking move Sonic has is him rolling into a ball. Have to wait about for Sonic players to make a mistake if you want to win.
Just jab.
KratosIsKing How is that going to work exactly? If it was that easy then there would be no point in anyone using Sonic, he would be the worst character in the game by far
+vDom It's a shame that Sakurai designed him in such a way instead. As a Sonic fan, playing a hit-and-run punish game is okay I guess, but I would LOVE if Sonic was more of a Speed, Combos and Pressure-based character, like Fox.
6WX kind of makes this playstyle work to a point, but you can only fight the innate character design so much before hitting your limits.
Doc Snakes I agree with you. I actually think it makes sense how they made Sonic in this game, I still hate it though. I just get salty when I have a Sonic take me to Duck Hunt as a counter Pick and play out the clock. I wish that wasn't allowed but hey ho, it's part of the game. I like your suggestion of having him utilised more like Fox though.
+vDom I agree, Sonic is a *** joke.
I saw this live on stream, I legit spit out my cereal when I saw that.
Beast as fuck, Mario's definitely better than the Doctor but he's still good too.
If only the doc had a lagit up B recovery and you could stop momentum with the cape. He would be top tier in a heart beat
Derek Lewis no lol
Doc needs a mobility buff really, Slower than Dedede
Ally nodding his head like he is the coolest person. it really annoys me that THAT is his reaction. I would laugh or shake my head. But not nod like he just pulled some dank combo. smh
He wanted to act like he planned it, for comedic effect. It was for fun, 6WX was just flustered over the moment seeing how he lost a stock very early.
ally is a good person
Jake Rosenblum I agree with you. What a ridiculous reaction that made me dislike Ally more than before
Ally was just spamming down throws to up Bs and up smashes. Pretty lame playstyle
FightMe SF2 I'm on you're side, but that's slightly extreme
6:30 this is perfectly normal
mario vs sonic. the classic battle.
actually as a mario main i always have been wondering why ppl didnt just up b when sonic tries to follow up with trampoline, because i rarely see sonic players air dodge after up b and marios up b has such a fast start up and a high minimum knockback
And I picked up Mario after watching Ally. This man is crazy with Mario. I also have a Sonic secondary as well because of 6WX and his aggressive style
Kinda sad about that because I like 6WX...
but that shit was funny to see live.
OH MY GOD!!!! That guy has gotta be by far the best Mario player in the world!!!
Ally is a beast with mario. Him and anti probably have rhe most solid Marios in smash 4.
He's like top 10, top 5 on Earth lol
6:32 Eat your heart out, 20XX Fox... that was grimy.
Up Smash 5 times in a row. The Ally Special.
Sky:
NO
NO
NO
NO
Ally:
yup
MARIO letting Sonic know he's owned by Nintendo.
***** since now
Ithritable hopefully for longer than just 2017.
Juddmeister Dreamcast
Listening to fans? 😂
•Cant even make their own consoles anymore
•Sonic boom
haaaaaaaaaaa
sb aint that bad
www.google.com/amp/www.polygon.com/platform/amp/2016/11/21/13702500/pokemon-uranium-another-metroid-2-remake-the-game-awards-2016-removed
Nintendo showing what complete assholes they are.
XD
God that up kill was too dirty. Once I saw that, I couldn't even comprehend how it happened. G fucking G, I felt so bad for 6WX there, damn.
6:30
That Villager and Dr. Shrunk in the Background is pretty much Ally and 6WX's Reactions to what just happened.
"FIEND!" yes indeed XD
I dislike Sky
K
Anyone know if 6WX or sonic mains use (joystick +A) or (C-stick) for aerials?
6:28 Gonna need a senzu for that one...
Damn man I was here next to etika bro we were so hyped man rip etika for life man.
Last time these two faught it was so suspenseful and this time it was just crazy kills
I would totally have the expression that Dr. Shrunk had at 6:34 if that ever 0% death ever happened to me.
6:28
TKbreezy: ...and 6WX is actually just reacting to it. He's like "I don't..."
*Ally KOs 6WX at 0% using Mario's Up-B*
TKbreezy: No he didn't. _NO. HE. DIDN'T._
Sky: _OH NO. NO, NO, NO, NO, OH, NO, NO, NO, NO, NO. NO. NO._
Ally (to 6WX): *Nods head yes*
TKbreezy: Look it -- he's like "Yup." (laughs) FIEND!!
6:35 even Shrunk was in disbelief xD
6wx vs ally. My favorite match up
Holy shit dude, that was awesome at 6:30 i would never thought that he would win like that
My question is, why does Mario's cape let Sonic use his up B again? I thought one of the points of the move was to flip the opponent with no real knockback, but I guess not here...
unless sonic has an infinite recovery like Mega Man.
Because Sakurai.
+L1N3R1D3R because it does damage and sonic's up b does not make him helpless
Mugutu Mage Except the whole point of flipping opponents is that it doesn't do knockback, which I would think should be what makes a recovery move usable again. I guess this could make for an interesting team of Mario and Sonic, where the Mario could possibly make Sonic's recovery infinite without ever killing him.
it's also possible that the cape made sure sonic was alive long enough for the spring to disappear, which generally means sonic can up b again. I know what the point of the move is, I'm explaining why that happened
4:12 "Coming with rebuttal" I`ll just let everyone's imagination see what i`m seeing.
While I came here for that 0 to death, what I really want to see is 6WX & Trela's Ryu ditto.
Uh well mario and sonic has both have an heavy aerial timing attack mario has his forward air while sonic has his backward air
Can we all take a moment to admire Ally's tag?
6:29 Would this count as a SD since he didn't take any damage?
No, because he received 0.5% damage from that.
That 0% upb kill still hurts my soul.
Are the doubles done
When will it be uploaded
they only had doubles for pm.
they couldn't do it for sm4sh.
+Sujith Nakkala DID HE JUST WALK UP SLOWLY AND CANCEL DOUBLES
Mario's hat turned in to a spring. soniiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiic!
If your watching. Reply with your wii u name I wanna 1v1 some people
0 to death has new meaning.
Smash history right here
Wow, after seeing this Mario looks taller and thinner 6:29
6:34 even Dr. Shrunk seems a little confused by that kill
Fish=46 USD
W0t
Samuel M Allys tag duhhh
Matthew maximillion ah ok thx xD
+Samuel M ([NeonS]peed315) ur everywhere XD
Sounds like Sky is doing commentary. Makes me remember the time Dunkey beat Sky in Smash.
even i was demoralized after that 0% kill
YO SKY WILLIAMS IS THAT U COMMENTATING!?
Oh jesus, who let Sky Williams commentate?
6:32 I bet 6WX did that face in real life also
is it just me... or did this whole event have a lot of hype moments than any regular tournament... or atleast any with zero in it
Got skunked on that .5 damage up B by the blast zone, that's why you don't do that.
that kill ally got at 6:30 was complete bull, that's not cool at all, i actually might hate mario now.
+James Brown Jr VA II Mario is one of the most broken characters in this game. He's fast, his smashes hit like a truck and has too many comboes that are way too easy to pull off. In hands of a good player like Ally, it's almost invincible.
+Gabriel Hollows bowser is faster than mario
+Devin Cranshaw Running speed only.
Well then what do you mean by fast?
Devin Cranshaw
That he's elusive as hell, low cooldown on attacks and his attacks come out almost instantly.
And that folks is how you misuse Sonic in Smash Bros.
He didn't misuse Sonic st all
I was so shocked when I saw this and I think 6wx just kinda gave up a bit afterwards
I just came here for 6:30.
Ally can up-smash 5 times in a row but 6wx can't confirm a kill without dying at 0%
6:30 WTF WAS THAT LFMAO ROFLD(rolling on the floor dying)
the hell X'D
6:31: Mario - What the Fu- What happened?!
Sonic - Nintendo CONTINUES to screw me. This time, in SMASH!!
Mario - I'm sorry Sonic. I'll slap the Shell out of Luigi!
Sonic - Not really necesary Mario... -_-'
Let Ally here show you how to 0-Death like a pro
how was that 0% roofed not a wombo combo situation?
+TSMSnation Because there was no combo
TylightDark
i mean the screams.
" No, no, no, no, no, ohhhh, no, no ,no, no "
Bruh.
I don't think it is such a giant deal but when I first saw this, Ally's smug head nods and facial expressions kind of pissed me off a bit. If I was Ally and I accidentally pulled some shit jank move like that, even I too would be, "uhhhhh.... yeah that was kind of jank...." Ally here acts like it is a common occurrence and just nods his head like "yep that happens. You gotta watch out for that."
I think he was doing that sarcastically.
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0% Kill AHA! That was sick
I think the bullshit part about this is not that he died at 0% (even though that is super crazy), but that Ally played it off like it wasn't luck. 6wx got robbed man
Don't you mean he got Mario'ed?
Dat BibleThump in the crowd XD
How the heck was that even possible
can we please make the player cam at 6:36 a meme
6:30 can anyone explain me what the hell Just happened?
In this game, the first hit has high knockback to ensure the subsequent hits connect properly. But that also means that if they are reversed, then only the first hit with high knockback connects and that's what KO's them from the top of the stage.
Roy reverse blazer and Ike reverse aether tech?
I didn't know sky was talking in this video XD
his voice was just there and I was like, sky?
6:28 you're welcome
now Mario goes a tier up.
Such a close game omg
DUDE KILLED AT 0% WTF HOW
Wow... get killed at 0%...
My main is Sonic and I don't like playing against Mario, I just have the feeling that you just can try a spin dash and hope that you won't be punished, Sonic doesn't have good approaches (maybe it's just my feeling) and Mario... wow...
Mario is, I think, one of the best character of this game, but I know that Sonic is also really good.
+Palmi sonic doesn't have an approach? since when?
In fact he has an approach however, he has some ending lag and not a good range (except the Back air and the forward air). Mario is more agressive I think and that's why I have sometime problems to win against him.
Sorry if you didn't understand me, I'm french and it's difficult for me to speak english x)
at the olympic games
I would shatter my controller
How come players don't taunt back
6:30 the disrespect is off the charts