FFXIV - The Cinder Drift (Extreme) Guide
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- Опубліковано 30 чер 2024
- ::Final Fantasy XIV - The Cinder Drift (EXTREME) Trial Guide!
A quick overview of the new EXTREME boss, Ruby Weapon, guaranteed to get you through it!
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When it's the first day of the patch and there's already PF groups that say "know mechs or don't join"
That's the dumbest thing I see every patch cycle that has extreme fights.
I've noticed a whole lot of people in FFXIV have absolutely stupid and unrealistic expectations. aint nobody going to know the fight on day 1. and even a week later theres still at least 70% of the players who havent cleared or even tried it yet. People have to stop pretending they can demand perfection and omniescence from everyone else.
Lol its because some people already blind progged it. So they already know the mechanics without a guide...
@@zeehero7280 Right? I'm not mad at people for wanting to farm day 1 but don't expect that from party finder, run that with your static
Eh, I like teaching people. It’s almost as fun as a first clear.
A note about pushing phases early in part 1: some mechanics will lock the boss into them until they are finished. I had a party that "killed" it during the animation of the second liquefaction/dash combo. He remained at .1% until the dashes completed and then the phase transitioned.
I hate that when I bait away the bits, there's always someone who doesn't and their beam flies through my safe spot.
Yeah that can be annoying but good news is the bits go of shorty after the aoe starts so there's time to dodge them. My advice would be after the aoe goes off in the centre move towards the centre from the safezone if you have a bit on you as that's safe after the fist aoe goes off.
Yes...
The center is always safe after the first explosion. you dont really need to "bait" the bits away like so many people say. there is a time delay between the line aoe and the explosion. you can be in the safe spot and just step forward to avoid with a small minimal side step once in the center if needed. the "baiting" mechanic is really not necessary at all.
I second Jarrin's explanation. there's absolutely no reason to 'bait the lasers' all you need to do is walk into the hitbox/explosion after the first hit goes off. the lasers always go off AFTER that explosion so even if theres a line right in front of you you have time to move to a safe space inside the hit box. there's miles of free space. baiting and moving anywhere BUT into the hitbox is overly complicating a simple mechanic
@@fencingkitty9166 It's exactly when people insist on not doing a TINY effort to bait lasers in groups where people arent used to that movement which will wipe and wipe for no reason, only becuase people were too lazy to move an inch away from where they need to be for helioclaw for a second. its SO easy to bait lasers, there is no excuse. its just the easier, safer strat and you lose no uptime if you do it correctly.
13:01 "heelds and sheels"
I love those kind of brainfarts. Hahahah.
Those are on purpose i think^^ She really loves her puns.
Awesome guide as always Mizz!
Thanks for the guide MTQ.
Is it just me or the audio is a bit lower than usual? Otherwise nice guide :)
youtube shows loudness normalizer was at -19dbs. Usually it's -12 for these videos so UA-cam might've gotten more aggressive on their normalizer
yeah had to completely shut of my game sounds in the background to hear anything
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Publican can sell!
Super quiet for me too. Like a whisper.
Thanks for the guide! I'm gonna try to beat Ruby Weapon EX today. I must have that Ruby Gwiber mount
Quick comment on the Phase 1 enrage. He can actually do another Ruby Dynamics/Cut and Run if the DPS is low, and will hard enrage following that. He can also enrage early if he gets down to 5% health during a Stamp/Optimized Ultima phase, most frequently following second Flexiclaw phase.
as a Healer, this is helpful but I still have trouble surviving that first heliosclaw.
If he moves left towards quicksand make you run left if he moves right then you run right :)
Thank needed to learn this.. doing with fc this Sunday. 💕
I have cleared this fight 18 times. I have not successfully dodged Helioclaw even once.
Cionyl I've seen ppl lying on the ground for most of the time and was hard carried through by others. They call themselves "cleared" but they just fool themselves. If the DPS check is something serious these ppl will never get the kill. e.g. E8S at week one
@@dinohazard The enrage on this fight is fairly generous when it comes to deaths, yeah.
Long time watcher of your videos. They're so informative, organized and concise! Why is this one so quiet, though? The audio seems so much lower than normal.
Keep up the good work!
A VERY VERY easy way to dodge Helioclaw is to stand at the crack between 2 AOEs and once the the Magitek Bit lasers targets go out just move left. The more people who stack at the notch of the AOEs the better the chance to bait the Magitek Bit lasers. If there's a laser to the left where your safe spot is, you'll just have to adjust accordingly.
I've seen so many people die to this mechanic when it is super easy to dodge.
If so many people die maybe it's not super easy to dodge
It's only easy to dodge if you KNOW how to do it. What you say just proves that not many people know about it.
Good guide as always but there are 2 easier strats i wanted to compare with the ones i've been using in PF since the release :
- Helicoclaw where everyone gather to the intersection of 2 of the circles, wait for lasers, move to the left, repeat
- Meteors where you totally do not care about clockwork, only n°8 who put their meteor mark closer to the boss. Everyone wait then hide behind that, then move before it explodes.
That helio trick worked wonders for me, thanks! I was about 50/50 on whether I completely dodged it, or died instantly!
Phenomenal guide thank you 🍻
Was waiting for your guide. Thanks a lot. Quality, shortness and down to the point are top notch as usual.
I think I see Fidget spinners wipe more parties than anything else in the fight.
Those wiped parties even in normal mode. ;.;
Good guide as usual, would it be possible for closed captions to be added as well to these guides in future?
Just cleared this on my first ever run for it with PF group thanks for this 👍🏻
thanks for the guide
great, clear guide
MTQcapture does it again!
With magitek lines, it's better to stack at either left or right with full party so it doesn't matter who's targeted, they all converge on one spot and they're easier to dodge that way. Also with magitek and claw, it's best to bait magitek rays on the lines first, then move clockwise to a safespot
FINALLY THANK YOU SO MUCH I LOVE YOUR GUIDES
You're an invaluable part of the community, please never leave ussss
thanks for guide ^^
I was hoping you'd give a positioning guide for Helioclaw aoes. They're extremely tricky to dodge.
Yeah, she used to make schemes for tricky stuff. :/
Stand in the gap between the two circle aoes to bait the magitek bit, then just move directly left and you’ll be safe everytime. Try to find your own spot to do it because 90% of people don’t bait the Magitek bits and can make the safe spot really tight
FINALLY managed to understand the stupid 2nd dash on the claw mechanic and how to avoid it! Thanks ^^
I made my own guide for the spiral kaboom in paint. Not to toot my own horn, but it was amazing
Liquefaction +Spheres is the hardest part of this fight. Such tight positions. Then it’s ravenflight. The rest isn’t too bad
The Best Guides like always.. thanks!
Thank you I definitely needed to that 2 phase I know sorta some of it but Chariot is mostly my issue definitely would it mind getting pushed back by screech
oh, cool mouse from Corsair! I would love that because you can adjust the number pad. thanks!!
“Say crack again”
“Crack.”
Literally what I was thinking watching this!
Thank you for saving me from those circles.
A trick I found out for Ravensflight Claw 1 (outside danger, then inside danger) - the safe spot for the Claw dash after the ground liquefaction is flipped will always be North or South, opposite from the middle-safe spot. Squeeze to one side to dodge the claw, then cross the boss' dash line and go to whichever of North/South marker is on that side. It's been completely consistent for me, so hopefully it makes it easier to have most of the aprty live that part!
I love you for that, that mechanic has been consistently killing me, I can't wrap my brain around it.
Yeah..... im gonna be waiting for the weekend to even think about this lol
After 4 days of puging this I can say that raven flight will go north every time
Thanks, I was looking forward to this guide. Also you said Cinder's Drift in the intro lol.
Please increase volume of your mic. I would rather it be loud than low. I can always turn down the video. Thank you! Love your videos. Note: I think this may have been a youtube change. But please increase mic volume for future vids. :D
Wow just watching The Mechanics for this fight just gave me an absolute headache I don't know how anyone can remember 15 minutes of information. I guess a lot of trial and errors
More then anything it takes Practice.
people don't memorize guides, mostly they just look for the most important mechanics and then just prog it themselves
I've seen 3 different ways to bait the lasers and everyone is doing all 3 different ways all the time and someone dies every single time.
Itll proabably get more consistent now that someone has a raid guide up xD
@@Commanderflynn This guide didn't go over any of the ways to bait the lasers though. Unless I'm mistaken and just didn't pay attention. I've seen people bait between the circles cracks. I've seen baits on the lines themselves. And Idk if any of those are correct.
@@asaltylapis4316 true, I'd assume most will at least watch and see how they're baited and will most likely copy it just from video evidence.
I personally dint see a point in baiting, theres enough room and time to move into the middle after the explosion and avoid the lasers and move out to repeat
Pair a melee and a ranged in one of the 4 zones
Melee drops it close to the boss
Ranged drops it far from the boss
Same for healers and tanks
Profit!
This. I found it really hard to tell how they are baiting it in this video. Even after rewinding it multiple times. And it seems to be different than another video I watched first. It always ended up that someone would bait a lazer straight through other peoples safe zone and leave them no wherw to stand
Just throwing this out there, almost no one actually does the rotation for the first phase (to maintain uptime for melee), and the enrage dps check is very forgiving, so you don't need to try to squeeze that much dps out. It's much easier for everyone to just pick whichever spot they feel like (you don't need to have all melee/ranged on the same setup) and just not rotate. Source: I've been running this fight all week and almost no one does rotation in pugs.
Also note, in phase 2, the comets that the tanks catch do a LOT of damage, so I'd suggest using more than one cooldown (stuff like PLD invuln. DOES work on this, buying your healers some breathing room so they don't have to spam heal your right away). The boss doesn't use tankbusters aside from the 2 adds + comets, so no reason to save them (the AE healing on the party will top you up from the auto attacks).
What is that old weapon at the start?! I need to know. If it’s Eureka than forget it though.
Its from The Epic of Alexander Ultimate
Cut and run is always the move that almost nearly wipes my party whenever I use PF. People panic and and lose track of their positions and everyone gets nuked.
=/
nice guide as always
the volume is too low though
For bits/swirly aoes you should stack them as a group between 2 circles and move clockwise. Having people wing it based on where there are does NOT work in PF especially groups where a guide is needed. Unless the positioning is done correctly on every side someone will lose their safe spot. Its easier, and safer, to stack the aoes. Otherwise great guide!
I like your strats the first moment i saw you group doing it. It is really easy an make them 100% more predictable. Same like hades ex broken faith cheese strat, many will love stacking those lines in the end.
@@zephartempest4592 i think comparing it to hades cheese is unfair. No one gets a vuln stack here AND melee can keep up uptime. Even more of a reason for it to be the preferred strat.
During Ravensflight1 and Ravensflight2 in phase 1, he doesn't go to a random spot. He always goes North. So DPS can stand at North to not lose and GCDs after he dashes.
why does the music during the ad sound so familiar. I swear to god I know it but I just can't place my finger on it
looks awefully hard for this old country boy!
What is the weapon with the gears MTQ has at intro of video?
It's from the Epic of Alexander ultimate
@@Mu_Aspect That doesn't sound like something I can do hahah. Thanks!
I noticed you using Goring Blade. Is it even worth using? I was on the lawns not long after 5.0 and my % remaining dropped by like 6% not using Goring Blade.
This is an old comment, but what the actual f? You're supposed to always have it up.
goring blade combo (pop FnF before the final hit) > atonement combo (or 2 royal authority combos if below lv76) > goring blade combo (last hit should happen before FnF ends) > requiescat magic combo > goring blade combo > atonement combo (or 2 royal authority combos if below lv76) > repeat
Mark 2 magitek meteor.. is it me or is does it drop 4 now?
I pretty much always PF stuff, i'm just a couple ilvls below being able to yet however - how bad are the PFs for this?
The mechanics really don't look very hard at all
a decent pf can turn from "progress" to then doing additional clears afterwards very easily. this fight is a joke tbh.
I always find good players in pf, it just matter of time... Good luck ✌🙂
This was the first EX fight I cleared legit (not counting stuff like Ifrit as a level 80) and I found it really forgiving. You can come back from near-wipes during phase 1 if you have enough damage and phase 2 is just plain easy.
45 clears trough PF since Thursday of the patch week is all u need as answer right ?
To be fair: No Ex-Trial is particularly hard if everyone knows what to do. Without these guides its however another thing to learn these mechanics.
Tip: if he moves left to quick sand you go left, if he moves right to quick sand you go right for first claw phase! 63 runs later 😂 must have my dragon!
Also in phase 1: if you group doesnt get make it to 5% then he will do another tank buster, healer split , raid wide, then enrage I beleive? Might be 1 more tb or ruby ray aswell but I dont recall :)
Congrats!!! :)
Congrats? Lol still no dragon, only need 10 more runs tho
I personally found baiting the bits unnecessary. It helps, but the groups I have done this with did it slightly differently. You have enough time after the first explosion of Helioclaw to move into them giving you the entire hit box of ruby to work with. Then just move out and prepare for the second set.
It's best to bait the bits when you pug. Not alot of people do the strat your talking about and they wont be happy if you do this strat and don't bait the bits as a result. It's good to keep this strat in mind though for when someone else doesn't bait correctly as it's handy to fall back on if there's a bit in your safezone.
All this time I thought the explosion when the cracks formed were Random and not centered on the tips of the cracks
An easy tip for this: if you're on a short crack, run back to the wall and you're safe. If you're on a long crack, stand right up on the bosses hitbox (make sure to stay out of the center AE though) and you're safe.
Where did you get your weapons from?
Alexander (Ultimate)
I did titania, innocence and hades extreme legit. Got the 3 gwibers from those. But ruby onwards to diamond I'll just unsync in Endwalker. 🤣
One thing I've been wondering ever since 5.2 dropped: why is there a ruby ex, but no ruby y?
"hields and shiels"
WHAT THE HELL?! this boss is fraging crazy not to mention the boss is a cacoon????? Was this the case in 7? Also so many Insta kill stuff that I ain't a fan of since e4n has me not having fun with tanking due to hiting hard beyond belief
Thank you , ur video help me farm the totem haha
I’ve heard this is an easy fight but it seems to not be so easy
man I’d love to try this trial but I feel like as soon as I join everyone will hate on me for not knowing the mechanics haha or at least thats how hades ex went
Is it just me or is the volume on this video really low?
Jesus, this fight is extreme. The boss has a ridiculous amount of health.
She has spoken, we aren't doing clock positions! I hate seeing those parties...
ye ive been in those and my first group ended up with 4 people on one crack several times and idk how claiming they follow the instructions. the slight dps lost from a melee standing on one of the long cracks is worth it to not see randoms fuck up
i keep dying to helioclaw right now. haha :( thanks.
i did it deathless now. thanks for everything! haha :(
how can i join their raid grp
ORANGE?! its reddddddd
Waaaaay too quiet, really hard to hear anything, but as usual fantastic guide!!
Helicoclaw is the worst... Killed it 5 times and i still die to this mechanic
Stand at max melee range at the intersection of two circles to bait the lasers, then take a couple steps to the left to dodge the helioclaw.
What PLD weapon is that? It looks awesome.
The new weapon from the TEA ultimate raid
While not savage where I encountered this, the comet like attack on the second phase, Meteor mk2 where the tanks intercept them...
On normal, I unfortunately had to take one because first timers and there were 4 comets... However the one I intercepted was invisible, untargetable but I still had the ‘Atlas’ debuff showing I was holding it.
When the duration expired I died immediately but nothing else happened to the party?
I wish to mention this on the off chance it happens in savage as well.
im just gonna level botanist :(
Audio seems a little quiet
Lmao had trouble with the ruby weapon in normal mode now savage looks intense to beat.
Only thing I super dislike about this guide is the lack of clear meteor placement. Coulda just said something along the lines of 1-4 = 1-4 and A-D = 5-8.
That's just another method of doing it. You can either do it that way (1-4=1-4) or place meteors on the same positions as pase 1 with the 8th meteor being in melee range. Wish both methods were mentioned in the video so that people knew of the 2 methods and the group can vote which method they prefer.
I personally find it easier to do the method mentioned in the video but I know some people prefer the way you mentioned
That huge potato mouse 😆. I have small hands tho
Overall a decent guide, but there are a couple of things I noticed.
1. ravensclaw: it's not really worth it to rotate so long as you don't have more than 2 melee, the dps checks are so easy here that you don't need max uptime. you're only missing like 2 or 3 gcds by taking the long one anyways, all rotating is doing is making everything needlessly complicated.
2. I didn't quite understand the way you explained the dash after the quicksand switches in ravensflight (and also the boss doesn't really fly to a random edge, it appears to always start north), so I'll take a go at it for anyone else who doesn't get it. From my own static's experience, when the phase starts, look at what side of the boss the quicksand marker is, E/W. when he gets south, pay attention to what side his claw is on. if He has his east claw out and the marker is also in the east, you have to dodge south. same for if both are west. However, if the marker is east and his claw is west, you need to dodge north. again, same for west marker and east claw. ( imgur.com/a/tG9aV7j )
3. Unless your healers are good at their job, I'd recommend putting the meteors in p2 farther back. splash damage hurts, especially if your healers are already having trouble. (and again, you don't need max uptime here, you get lb3 and it's hard to get beyond soft enrage)
Hope what I said helps someone out there, random denizens of the internet
TLDR: Rotating for ravensclaw is stupid, Boss always jumps north for ravensflight (and melee can pre position north for a couple seconds more uptime if that's your thing), and same side run south, opposite side run north. Splash damage hurts a lot, and uptime doesn't really matter
It's possible to survive a tank comet drop with enough mitigation. I wonder if this will become an uptime pug strat in the future
I was actually going to say that because we had a tank drop a meteor and literally no one died. Then the Dalamud falling wiped the entire party from full health with Shields. I'm not sure if it give the boss an invisible buff if the comet gets dropped
Even if the party survives a comet exploding, killing the comet is what depletes the Dalamud bar. If the bar isn't at 0, Dalamud falling is an instant wipe, so both comets always have to be killed.
@@punjoke9617 oh shit that makes sense. Thanks
iron chariots is IMPOSSIBLE to dodge
Beef soft taco, beef soft taco, beef soft taco supreme.
We need savage guidessssss
Milhouse brags: I had the Mouse before she advertised it! ^_^
the first half looked so fun, then the second half looked like such a drag... why cant they just leave it fun
as necessary
I'm watching this wondering how the fuck am i gunna do this..... ugh anyone else feel the same way?
*Sees tea weapon*
Tea guide pweeeese
Ilya Dalamiq 's got an extremely in depth one. It lasts a whole hour and a half though.
@@commentingchannel9776 i saw it but mizzteq's guides have always been easier to digest
Very nice guide ! Tho I'd love if you could just leave a few seconds between some explanations ^^
It's kinda overwhelming to listen to. Don't get me wrong, it's very well explained ! But from a viewer perspective i feel kinda out of breath (if that makes sense) watching the video ^^
Otherwise, great job on the video ^^
can just pause the video, I would rather she not make the video slower and longer, this is coming from the perspective of someone that prefers short and fast videos.
....you know maybe that ruby gunblade isnt worth it after all
Yay a guide. But i cleared it already xD
great guide but one problem.. this will NEVER work in a blueberry run, a static yes but blueberry.. fuck no
I think this is too complicated for me =/
Mine craft on a whole new level.
it's so unlike me to put off a primal :P - i usually have the mount within a week a new fight being added,
i'm just playin so many other games right now, i've been gettin distracted from ff xiv
although at glance this fight doesn't look nearly as bad as Hades Ex
why is she so quiet?
About the ranged = long lines and melee = short lines:
it doesnt matter. In every group I was in we had enough damage to avoid this "rotate clockwise" bullshit xD