I had a go on one of these recently and absolutely loved it. It was like riding my mountain bike with an engine strapped to it - super punchy and agile. I'm 6,2" and didn't find it that cramped (although I'm all torso). I wouldn't want to tour on it but as a town fun bike, it's one of the best I've ridden.
Great video--I just bought the Nighshift model, and I am loving it for a town and head up in the canyon bike. Blast to ride--love the ABS brakes! Thanks!
+Peter Claxton Thanks Peter - The little Duke certainly is worth a look, she continues getting rave reviews in the motorcycle press.....not for me personally but that's just a matter of personal preference...thanks for stopping by, all the best - TMF
+Captain Rambunctious Cheers Skipper, thought my summary might be a bit negative but glad you concur sir! Having now ridden the Diavel, Multistrada, Scrambler and Panigale I think Ducati definitely "do" sports bikes best....
Had a go on one of these two weeks ago I loved it for its style but I was blown away by the poke it had.If I had one it would have to have the Termi pipe and maybe the full throttle flat bars, by far better than the Bonneville if you are into this type of bike!
+Neil Cole (Smoothound675) Well all a matter of personal opinion of course, the Duke has done very well in the press and seems widely very highly regarded. I think a Termi is the way to go with any Ducati isn't it? Ride safe and thanks for watching and commenting - all the best - TMF
I'm in the market for a new bike and these are on my list. I have a test drive lined up for next weekend and i must say I'm really looking forward to it.
+BigA Hi BigA, yes I think you'll really like the way it rides - if you like the look of the baby Duke and get the whole modern/retro thing then I don't think you can go far wrong.....other than that snatchy throttle I couldn't fault the way the machine rides or the tremendous build quality. No doubt these are brilliant value......be interested to hear what you think after your test ride? Especially if you find the throttle a bit binary too??? Cheers and thanks for watching - TMF
I was just thinking - I wish that British sounding dude would do a scrambler review..!!!! Been following your crf250l vids and stumbled across this. Well done sir, 👍
Anyone would love it when it's given to you for free! Jamie is a Ducati brand ambassador. Not trying to disparage the bike, I've ridden one and it's great fun.
Love your videos as always! I know it's been a while since you made this video, have you tried a newer one? I'm in love with my '14 STR in the road and canyons, but I've found myself inclining towards a more neutral / classic look. How would you compare this Ducati to the str? Cheers!
Good review and agree with all points. Still think the street triple with a single round headlight would top all other bikes for all-rounder naked type bike. I've seen pictures with after market round headlights and they look fantastic.
+Windy Run ......cheers Windy, glad we concur. ....and I have to agree with you of course about the Street Triple (I actually think it looks great with the Dame Edna lights too)...all the best - TMF
Great video mate I have only just discovered you. I am fairly local to you Oxford and its good to see you doing so well with your channel. What do you think about the 1290 super duke? I am having a go at vlogging and its so much harder than people could possibly imagine. Great video and I am a subscriber now. Good luck with it
+Buddy's Insight Thanks Buddy - glad you stumbled past and found me and thanks for the sub. I've never ridden a KTM of any kind, in the main for some reason they don't appeal to me - think it's something to do with orange but I can't be sure!! The 1290 only ever seems to get good reviews so I'm sure it is a great bike, but I'm not tempted to try one. Having said that I do like the KTM dirt bikes, for some reason the orange seems a little less garish on those!!! Good luck with your vlogging, I'm off now to check out your channel - all the best - TMF
Great review as usual mate ! About to give up my GS, done with long touring and heavy baggage. For medium length riding, how does she fair two up ? Gotta make sure the missus is fine… enough space for two and somewhat comfortable?
Really enjoying your videos. Can I ask what you use to edit them? I've not been having much luck with GoPro Studio but wondered if I should persevere. Keen 'em coming. Thanks.
I just bought one for the winter and economy, for when he 999s is in storage for the odd day trip. I love it. 110mph A road and nimble Monster engine is sweet. The fuel delivery is way better than my 999s too. Came with Fly screen and tail tidy also. And what sold it to me was the miles 7777miles absolutly mint, from CMC Cannock. Top sales guys, shout out to Simon and Admin Tom.
+Luke Paul Thanks for the kind words - not tried the MT-09, that's another bike that the motorcycling press raves about that I'm afraid I just can't get excited about....if I get the chance I'd like to ride one, but it's not in my wish-list for a purchase....
+DervMan ...if you say so Dervman, it just doesn't do it for me, not sure if it's the toy like dimensions, the modern-mixed-with-retro or what.....cracking little bike from a weight, riding, power perspective but it just didn't do it in the "heart" department for me.....
Props for doing the low speed test on this bike which I've not seen in any other test. Having both test ridden a Scrambler and as a former Bonnie owner (2002 T100 & 2009 SE) I can say that the Scrambler overall feels a much more urgent bike. I'm also not at all worried by the lack of retro faithfulness which concerns you. The big selling point of the Ducati for me is the light weight, which at my age is a massive plus. I must say tho' that the new 2016 Bonnies look really cool and I can't wait to give them a try too.
+sfbdotcom Yes I agree with you on the urgency over the Bonnies! There's no doubt the Duke is a great bike, it just doesn't do it for me in the same way as the Triumphs do - and as you say, the new 2016 Bonnies look a step up again, so I'm holding onto my cash until I've had a chance to at least see those at the NEC in December.....exciting times ahead eh?
Well I've just read your review again having now had the experience of trying out a Street Twin and slinging a leg over the new T120 Bonnie. (It's still a good well-balanced review BTW). And... I'd still go with the Ducati, the T120 is quite a heavy machine and somehow looks it, especially when compared to older Bonnies which I think captured the look better. The Street Twin just felt a bit underwhelming, despite all the praise the press has lauded it with. Anyway, as you quite rightly said, horses for course and I think this machine will meet my personal needs, with of course a few mods to suit. Thanks again for a good review.
I went to the Kawasaki green Friday launch event last night already to fall in love with Z900RS which I kinda did. However on the way in I stopped to look at the 2018 Ducati Scrambler Desert Sled in shiny black. I kept looking back at it and now can't get it out if my head. Looks like I will be going on at least two test rides when I have saved enough to buy :-)
Saw a Australian review when they first came out, and they took both triumph and ducati scramblers to some very light off road terrain. Think it was the lightness and the poke that put the Ducati just in front for town riding, but the exhaust is to low even for light terrain and they managed to break it going over a couple of light rocks. They didn't mention how small the bike was though, so will scratch it off the list.
+GTs Garage ...well worth a look if you're in the market for something like this, certainly very performant and nice and light - styling just didn't win me over.....
Rode a. Desert Sled version of the Ducati Scrambler about a month ago. Very unimpressed with it. Seat was one of the worst seats I've ever experienced. I also did not like the rear shock digging into my leg at a stop. Power was pretty weak after 75mph. I came away from riding it disappointed, I thought about buying one a year ago. Thanks for the review TMF, as always top notch work!
+Thor Hansen Yes something about the Ducati scramblers that just doesn't do it for me too unfortunately - not sure why, just not a huge fan of these Ducatis.....
@@johnglover4318 I don't wanna limit myself to having fun on two wheels to about 100kmh. My Monster feels good to about 140 and then it becomes uncomfortable.
+Patrick Harrison Cheers Patrick - I do like the look of the R Nine T, if I get a chance to ride one I will put up a review but I don't have any plans on buying another boxer powered machine at this time so I'm not sure a comparative review will be imminent :0( Sorry about that. Thanks for stopping by and for your kind words - all the best - TMF.
+TheMissendenFlyer - No worries. I like the look of the R9T too, but a couple of grand more buys a more versatile boxer, the GS or GSA. That said when you see an R9T in a showroom you just think "wow". The build quality and finish is very impressive...the gurgle and pop on the overrun...oh sh*t hide the bank card. I guess it's the sort of bike you buy to go on "coffee runs", sunny Sunday mornings, out before the roads get busy, etc. Would not want to take it out in the rain :)
+Patrick Harrison Indeed, it would definitely be a pride of ownership rather than a practical do-it-all machine (and I can certainly vouch for the GS being the king at that!). Cheers - TMF
Recently discovered your channel and I'm really liking your approach to reviews and riding. I would love to know your opinion on which bike is better for heavy traffic commuting, The Scrambler or the Street Triple? I own a GSX-R750 which is my fast road/Track weekend ride, and a Ninja 250R which I use for daily commuting (and it has worked well), but I want something more torquey and fast, while keeping the nimbleness, small profile and agility of the 250. Would really appreciate it if you could give me your thoughts on this. Cheers!
+Alclab V. Well I am very biased on this one as I wasn't a huge fan of the Scrambler but I am of the Street Triple - give me that any day! The STR is nimble, torquey, light weight and quick...perfect for commuting I reckon (to be fair so would the Scrambler be). Thanks for the kind words and welcome along to the channel, glad you are liking it...all the best - TMF
really cool bike, always loved the retro look. one think that i didn't like on this particular model are the wheels, i would prefer to have spoke's to give it more that retro and scrambler look. but i assume that could be easily arranged, i think ducati has lots of aftermarket extra's to choose before to commit the cash.
+ripmax333 You can go for the Classic or Urban Enduro models if you want spokes. But unfortunately they cost significantly more. Spokes are usually less rigid when in proper road, but are more preferable when the road has bumbs of off-road. I must say though that I have test-riden the Urban Enduro model, and still it was very solid and great handling.
I have been watching your reviews, they are very well done thanks, takes me back to my youth in England with those lovely country roads, now living in Canada. I have to admit I don't get the design of the Ducati Scrambler versions, they just don't look right to me, the tank and seat don't do it for me, not like the Ducati Classics from several years ago. From your camera's view the throttle / brake cables looping over the speedo look terrible, the Triumph Scrambler is much cleaner and the look is more authentic.I'd be interested to see you review a Street Twin Scrambler and Street Cup, they look very nice, might be a little low powered though.
In the movie Venom they've falsely advertised the sound of this engine. While Eddie was riding on normal roads, it sounded like a superbike in a tunnel. If anyone buys this bike because of the sound effects in the movie - they might feel a bit disappointed
Another good review, I don't like the clock & throttle / brake cables propped up in air look a bit of a after thought, round mirrors might be better for the style of bike. A case of old & new not working
+vince halls Yes that's exactly my point - you're either retro or you're not, missing the two as Ducati have done with this bike (great though technically it is) just doesn't work IMO.....cheers for watching and commenting once again, good to have you along!
+Samuel Graydon Sounds like we are in complete agreement! You weren't tempted to wait until the new Triumph Scrambler is announced later this month????
+TheMissendenFlyer No. A few reasons for this. Firstly I really really like the current bike so didn't see the point in waiting for something that might not be to my liking. Then there is the wait itself, how long until the new Scrambler is available? On top of that I'd rather wait a year or so and let them work out the inevitable teething troubles before jumping in. I can always trade in for a new one if they turn out to be amazing bikes but I have a feeling the older air cooled ones will be worth hanging on to, much like an air cooled 911.
+Samuel Graydon Completely get you on all those points, my thinking has been the same - my assumption is though that there will be some air cooled scrambler bargains once the new models have broken cover, but before they're widely available - think I might take a look at the NEC in November (and then probably decide air cooled is the way to go........!!). :Keep me up to date with how you get on - what colour have you gone for??
+TheMissendenFlyer I went for black in the end. I picked it up this afternoon and have booked the first service/arrow fitting for Saturday morning. So 500 miles to do in the next three days :)
+Samuel Graydon Nice one - doing anything with the back end?? Hope the weather stays fine for you the next three days.....did you get a good deal do you think???
+TheMissendenFlyer Well the weather hasn't stayed fine haha (we knew that would happen). As for the back end of the bike, I'm not sure yet but of course the OEM lights etc will have to go as they look terrible in my opinion. I do know that I want to keep with the off road theme of the bike and any mods I do will be with that in mind.
I don't think Ducati Scramblers are retro-bikes. They are modern / contemporary bikes. If you look at a 2018 Lamborghini Aventador you wouldn't say it's a retro-car just because it looks vaguely similar to the 1970s Lamborghini Countach right? ;)
Hi TMF Just looking over one of these in the local bike shop at the weekend for a possible upgrade to my wife's MT03. She liked it but it was the number on the side she didn't like :-) I think it's cool. I'd like a spin on one to be fair
Mmm, I wasn't that impressed with the Ducati for some reason.....perhaps it's time I had another go and see if my opinion has changed given I've now ridden a lot of other similar machines....not my cup of tea this one...
TheMissendenFlyer Yes, we all have the bikes that we love and some that just don't do owt for us. To be fair I think it's the cute scrambler look and the yellow paint that I like 😋
I have a scrambler. It’s not “small”. Obviously it’s a relative term, but listening to some reviews, you’d think it’s a Grom. It’s not. It’s a beautiful machine with loads of torque. That snatchy throttle - it’s true but you get used to it quite fast.
I don't know about anyone else but I was getting three distinct impressions from the styling. From the left hand side it looks like a Triumph. From the front, like a retro Honda and from the right hand side the almost Hypastrada exhaust style is pure Ducati
+InTheNameOfJustice ....yeah she is a bit of a mix of styles and I think that's why I don't instantly warm to it, even though, technically - on paper and when you're riding it - it is a great machine....cheers for watching and commenting, all the best - TMF
+fivefootsixtriumph .....a realistic question as it happens ;0) - I would go for the Trumpet as it (to me at least) just feels more authentic, looks properly retro, is more characterful and is a Triumph! Bizarrely the Duke is a little too quick for my tastes, these sort of bikes are for lazily enjoying the scenery. If I want speed thrills then there's always the Panigale (which I loved)....how about you??
I have a Ducati Scrambler and I can say that the throttle is quite snatchy in 1st and 2nd, it's a characteristic of the bike, you do get used to it though.
I got my Scrambler Icon recently and, although I can get by with the snatchy throttle, I've ordered a G2 Throttle Tamer for it. Seems to be a popular mod on the forums. I like the speedo / rev counter style, btw :-)
I have one and love it. It’s a beautiful machine and fun to ride, but totally agree about the snatchy throttle. I also find the engine is quite hot when you’re not moving - I live in a hot climate. For me, handles very well. Cheers mate.
the throttle is sensitive because the gearing is very low compared to the monster. They've gone to a much bigger rear sprocket. I believe it's too low.
I test rode one today. Fantastic performance and handling on a nice smooth road. However, ruined for me by a really snatchy throttle, harsh ride and uncomfortable seat. Plus it feels a bit - toy like. I wanted to get off of it pretty quick. Also it cut out on me for no apparent reason when filtering through traffic. After returning it I had a second test ride on a Triumph Scrambler to confirm my choice (the bike in my pic) and bought one in black with an Arrow system to be fitted at the 500 mile service. Happy days :D
Hello, do you think this is too snatchy and hard to control at low speeds or acceptable and something you get used to? I love this bike in many ways and would like to buy a used one. The new one is from what I hear much better. Thanks
Hey TMF, did you ask what the servicing costs were on the Scrambler? I was looking around the Ducati showroom a few months ago and was rather shocked at the servicing costs of the Multistrada. That's one of the reasons I like the GS so much, the boxer engine makes maintenance so easy, even the valve checks/adjustments are a doddle...... Cheers DM
+DervMan .....no I didn't ask, as I was fairly quick to make my mind up that the bike wasn't for me so I wasn't as thorough as I otherwise would have been! Can't say I've noticed my BMW dealer being that cheap on the service front yet for my GS - one more to go and then I'm off to my trusted independent spanner man for half price servicing.....
+TheMissendenFlyer I was in my local Ducati dealer back in the summer (Riders Brislington) and the sales guy was saying a two year 'major' service was around £700! That's the beauty of the boxer, I was able to check/adjust the valve clearances in around an hour. I have no idea what the servicing costs are from a BMW main dealer but I'd hope it's half the Ducati cost given it's so much easier to access everything.... Perhaps I'm being naive ;-) I even had the dreaded ABS motor failure on mine, BMW charge £1,200 for the motor alone. A bit of research on the GS forums and half a day of my time and it was fixed for 'free'. All you need is a GS-911 and some thing to balance the throttle bodies (I use a Twinmax) and you can easily do all the servicing yourself. The GS is such a simple bike to work on. :-)
+DervMan Good news for us all then.....my first annual service on the GS at my local dealer cost over £800 (but that did include the supply/fit of the aux driving lights).....might have to pop up to yours next time with my toolbox :0)
+TheMissendenFlyer I expect the lights were £450 inc fitting...... I fitted a set of BMW spots on mine today, I have a HID bulb in the headlight so the spots are more about 'being seen'. I have the original GS-911 which won't work with the LC!
+DervMan Yeah I think you're right on the cost - and I too had mine fitted for conspicuity reasons (that plus they make you look dead cool.....if indeed that's even possible as a middle aged fat bloke on a BMW).
@@TheMissendenFlyer please don't think I'm criticizing you just I remember bikes like the 900ss and the pantah 500 as v twins but maybe my memory is beginning to go lol comes with age eh ! Happy New year to you and your family . Dave
The concept of 'retro' is a stylistic fabrication, like relic-ed guitars. The Scrambler makes a slight nod to the original Scrambler singles, but it's entirely a modern interpretation of what a bike can be. As you stated, "It goes like stink and can't be faulted" so why the need to defend the Triumph in comparison? I also disagree the Scrambler is a small bike. It's heavier than my old Ducati 750 GT and similar dimensions to a 60s Bonneville - neither of which were considered small. The gearing is a compromise of dirt tractability and road ease, so yes, it's a bit short but a few fewer teeth on the rear sprocket seems to smooth out the snatchiness at slow speeds. This is a bike built to enjoy riding and it delivers on that amply.
Hi, regarding whether the Ducati Scrambler is a retro or modern bike, Ducati never called this bike a retro bike. The way Ducati put it from the very beginning was ... if we (Ducati) had never stopped producing scramblers in the 70s, this is what our scramblers would look like ... I read this in a newspaper article 2 years ago. So, it is a modern bike. It was never Ducati's intention to produce a retro bike.
sure enough she is pretty and fun to ride..but agree she to "modern " to be retro... Lucky You that you have fun with all those beauties.. how do you do that??
+simone pozzoni Yes sorry Simone to have a downer on a Ducati, I love most things about Italy, and all Ducati sports bikes.....but this retro bike just doesn't connect with me. And as far as "how do I get to ride all those beauties" I tend to arrange test rides if my bikes are in for a service or work, today I had to take my little Honda to the dealer for it's recall work, so killed the time whilst I waited riding the baby Duke :0) ...it was fun!
+TheMissendenFlyer no worries, I completely agree with you..talking about Italian bikes,you should try the guzzi stelvio, I have a gs 800 and felt in love with the big moto guzzi, she might be the next one that I'll get..
+simone pozzoni Yes the big Moto Guzzi's are quite rare here too and it's always good to be a little different....will be interested to hear how you get on with the Stelvio if you do go for one. Personally I like the MV Augusta Dragstar.....but that's a different animal entirely!
I was always curious as to why Ducati didn't have the confidence to call it a Ducati and went with the Scrambler brand which is quite limited as far as potential new models go.
You know what, in my modest opinion, it's a bit of a youngster bike thanks to that toyish design and flashy colours...actually that may be the whole purpose of it; to attrack young people into the motorbike world as opposed to the world of electric scooters or superscooters as yamaha tmax for instance.
Mr Flyer has a very neutral BBC newsreader style accent, you couldn't get much more understandable! Try Geordie, Scouse, Glaswegian, Mancunian or Brummie!
ducati need to take a looong look at the KTM v-twins as they are buttery smooth..even the single is!..why are ducati throttles still snatchy..some people love em..but once you feel the KTM twin its a no-brainer which is better
I personally like the new-look and retro blending a lot - exept for that horrible digital speedo-meter of course! Right now, I am between buying this one, the MotoGuzzi V7ii and the Yamaha MT-07, which is no retro at all but similarly fun to ride, well set up too, and a lot cheaper. But the pillion will probably be suffering on the Yamaha, and I think that its build quality is nowhere near the Ducati.
TheMissendenFlyer Yes, I have. For about half an hour each, but I tried to simulate every possible condition. Ducati and Yamaha where extremely fun to ride and very rigid. MotoGuzzi was very enjoyable too, but in a different way. The engine makes you feel great, it accelerates as hell, but when leaning over, it didn 't give so much confidence. Don 't know though if it were the worn out tyres of the demo bike or rear shock weakness. On the MT-07 test ride bike, the plastics had gone somehow loose, with a lot less than 10.000 kms on. Of course... it was a demo bike too, so who knows? My personal experience also shows me that usually (ok... not always) European bikes tend to look in better shape than the Japanese ones after some years of regular use. I would like someone else (with long term experience) to comment on the MT-07 built quality though!
+kaveiros75 Yeah, trouble is the MT-07 hasn't been around for very long yet to comment!! Good luck making your decision....all part of the fun though eh?
TheMissendenFlyer Aha! I want a bike that feels great on a relaxed (short or longer) ride, solo or with a passenger... but also can give me good confidence and feedback when I feel like pushing things a bit harder. ;) I do no track days, and my highway rides/travels have been decreased dramatically over the last few years. Since we are spoiled for choices nowadays... why not put my hard earned cash on a bike that will (certainly transport me but also) make me smile every time I ride it? :D
The Italians have designed some of the finest looking bikes in the world over the years, but they still manage to come up with something like this. Having said that, I bet it's a hoot to ride.
I'm watching this video in 2018. For those of you still watching in 2015, you'll be please to know that TMF is still maintaining his very high standards and turning out plenty on entertaining stuff.
nice little thing but here in the US it wouldn't really make sense. Buell did that kind of thing here for a long time, we got sweet Buells of all kinds still out there for a fraction of that price with super torquey 1000s and 1200cc motors that are cheap and easy to work on. When you think about it, what does this offer that a M2, X1 or XB does not offer in spades, besides being Italian and being a Ducati? A 2000 dollar X1 will blow this thing out of the water...
+Gloomshadow100 I'm with you bud - the press seem to really love these machines, but give me my Triumph Street Triple any day! Cheers for watching and commenting - all the best...TMF
TheMissendenFlyer look at my videos and look at those two XB's that I built... guess what? Those two XBs cost me less than one of those scramblers.. go look at them and come back here and tell me if this bike makes sense. only in the mind of a hipster I think.
+Gloomshadow100 I agree - you are pushing on an open door with me here - but of course not everyone has the skill (or time, or inclination) to build or properly customise a machine themselves so bikes like the retro Ducati or the Triumph Bonneville's make sense for those.....
TheMissendenFlyer ha ha I am not saying that you disagree. I am just trying to make of the point that Ducati many not know what it is doing.. as far as the US is concerned. I love that little Ducati. but I just don't think its offering anything .. at least around here. Not unless you are a diehard Ducati fan.. and if you a fan, why would you want that one when Monsters are around?
+Gloomshadow100 100% with you bud.......and where'd you find those gorgeous ladies for your photo shoot vid? - must say I paid more attention to that video than your biking ones ;0P
I'm also 6,2" and it isn't as tiny as people make out. It's taller than a Street Twin and same height as an R9T with the comfort seat. The narrow, low tank makes it seem smaller than it is. It's also a throwback to when all bikes were around this size.
I like your videos but we differ in taste. Triumph retro bikes like the Bonneville are not retro. They are just F-ing old. This one is a perfect modern version flirting with old but performs and yes you can tell it is not 50 years old. Cheers
+Barrie Bland ...but surely we're all kids at heart aren't we??? Actually this makes me sound old as I mean it in the kind of way Tony Blackburn would....a sort of child of the 60's thing!! Sorry if it annoys you though......all the best - TMF
+Tuesdaysgonewtw Just my personal opinion of course, I think the Bonnie (especially the new T120) is a far better attempt at retro - the Duke is too toy like for me...but it is quick!
+TheMissendenFlyer By "toy like" do mean cheesy? or just too small? Was the bike stable on the highway? This bike for some reason reminds of a wonderful machine my parents bought me when I was a 15 year old kid. 1974 Honda XR 75 (man did I love that bike!) I think that's why I'm bound to own one of these sooner or later.
I had a go on one of these recently and absolutely loved it. It was like riding my mountain bike with an engine strapped to it - super punchy and agile. I'm 6,2" and didn't find it that cramped (although I'm all torso). I wouldn't want to tour on it but as a town fun bike, it's one of the best I've ridden.
You'd love the 1100 version I'm sure!
Great video--I just bought the Nighshift model, and I am loving it for a town and head up in the canyon bike. Blast to ride--love the ABS brakes! Thanks!
Good review, have you tried the MT-09 - would like to see that reviewed.
That's a sweet looking ride, yup!! i'd have one, nice vid, as always.
+Gary Whaley Thanks Gary - and nice to hear from you again!
fantastic review , I love v twins or any twin ,it's certainly one I will look at next year when I chop in the
+Peter Claxton Thanks Peter - The little Duke certainly is worth a look, she continues getting rave reviews in the motorcycle press.....not for me personally but that's just a matter of personal preference...thanks for stopping by, all the best - TMF
Quite fancy the new Ducati Scrambler Sled :)
I'm 55, so hardly a kid ! even though I'm young at heart.
That's what matters most! Cheers for stopping by - all the best, TMF
Might test ride this soon to see what I think .. advice noted mate
Excellent as always! Pretty much spot on on all accounts what I thought too! :-)
+Captain Rambunctious Cheers Skipper, thought my summary might be a bit negative but glad you concur sir! Having now ridden the Diavel, Multistrada, Scrambler and Panigale I think Ducati definitely "do" sports bikes best....
Had a go on one of these two weeks ago I loved it for its style but I was blown away by the poke it had.If I had one it would have to have the Termi pipe and maybe the full throttle flat bars, by far better than the Bonneville if you are into this type of bike!
+Neil Cole (Smoothound675) Well all a matter of personal opinion of course, the Duke has done very well in the press and seems widely very highly regarded. I think a Termi is the way to go with any Ducati isn't it? Ride safe and thanks for watching and commenting - all the best - TMF
I'm in the market for a new bike and these are on my list. I have a test drive lined up for next weekend and i must say I'm really looking forward to it.
+BigA Hi BigA, yes I think you'll really like the way it rides - if you like the look of the baby Duke and get the whole modern/retro thing then I don't think you can go far wrong.....other than that snatchy throttle I couldn't fault the way the machine rides or the tremendous build quality. No doubt these are brilliant value......be interested to hear what you think after your test ride? Especially if you find the throttle a bit binary too??? Cheers and thanks for watching - TMF
Your videos have improved over the years Andy. Thinking of getting one light and fun have change from sports bikes 👍
Yes I guess a lot of practice helps!
I was just thinking - I wish that British sounding dude would do a scrambler review..!!!! Been following your crf250l vids and stumbled across this. Well done sir, 👍
British sounding dude!! I am British!! :0)
TheMissendenFlyer only thing better than sounding British is being British! 😎
Stunning looking bike. Jamie Robinson from Motogeo loves his (with a few mods)
Anyone would love it when it's given to you for free! Jamie is a Ducati brand ambassador. Not trying to disparage the bike, I've ridden one and it's great fun.
Dean He didn’t have much good to say about the 1100 though. Love Jamie’s videos.
Really struggle to get excited about the scrambler but probably good fun around town. Looks like the Grom's big brother !
+crotchrocket Yeah, doesn't do it for me either sadly....but you can't love every bike! Thanks for watching - good to hear from you again - TMF
Love your videos as always! I know it's been a while since you made this video, have you tried a newer one? I'm in love with my '14 STR in the road and canyons, but I've found myself inclining towards a more neutral / classic look.
How would you compare this Ducati to the str?
Cheers!
No I’ve not ridden another since as this one didn’t light my fire - I understand theyve come a long way now!
Good review and agree with all points. Still think the street triple with a single round headlight would top all other bikes for all-rounder naked type bike. I've seen pictures with after market round headlights and they look fantastic.
+Windy Run ......cheers Windy, glad we concur. ....and I have to agree with you of course about the Street Triple (I actually think it looks great with the Dame Edna lights too)...all the best - TMF
Great video mate I have only just discovered you. I am fairly local to you Oxford and its good to see you doing so well with your channel. What do you think about the 1290 super duke? I am having a go at vlogging and its so much harder than people could possibly imagine. Great video and I am a subscriber now. Good luck with it
+Buddy's Insight Thanks Buddy - glad you stumbled past and found me and thanks for the sub. I've never ridden a KTM of any kind, in the main for some reason they don't appeal to me - think it's something to do with orange but I can't be sure!! The 1290 only ever seems to get good reviews so I'm sure it is a great bike, but I'm not tempted to try one. Having said that I do like the KTM dirt bikes, for some reason the orange seems a little less garish on those!!! Good luck with your vlogging, I'm off now to check out your channel - all the best - TMF
Great review as usual mate ! About to give up my GS, done with long touring and heavy baggage. For medium length riding, how does she fair two up ? Gotta make sure the missus is fine… enough space for two and somewhat comfortable?
It's a physically small bike - there are better choices for 2 up!
Really enjoying your videos. Can I ask what you use to edit them? I've not been having much luck with GoPro Studio but wondered if I should persevere. Keen 'em coming. Thanks.
+Eliot Dales Thanks Eliot - I use Power Director on the PC to edit my videos....thanks for watching and commenting, all the best - TMF
I just bought one for the winter and economy, for when he 999s is in storage for the odd day trip. I love it. 110mph A road and nimble Monster engine is sweet. The fuel delivery is way better than my 999s too. Came with Fly screen and tail tidy also. And what sold it to me was the miles 7777miles absolutly mint, from CMC Cannock. Top sales guys, shout out to Simon and Admin Tom.
Nice one - always good tohear of great dealers and staff....
+Luke Paul Thanks for the kind words - not tried the MT-09, that's another bike that the motorcycling press raves about that I'm afraid I just can't get excited about....if I get the chance I'd like to ride one, but it's not in my wish-list for a purchase....
+TheMissendenFlyer Think the market was ready for the original MT-09, cheap, powerful and something you could through around town.
Lovely looking bike, can't get used to not seeing a fairing and two dials!
+DervMan ...if you say so Dervman, it just doesn't do it for me, not sure if it's the toy like dimensions, the modern-mixed-with-retro or what.....cracking little bike from a weight, riding, power perspective but it just didn't do it in the "heart" department for me.....
Props for doing the low speed test on this bike which I've not seen in any other test. Having both test ridden a Scrambler and as a former Bonnie owner (2002 T100 & 2009 SE) I can say that the Scrambler overall feels a much more urgent bike. I'm also not at all worried by the lack of retro faithfulness which concerns you. The big selling point of the Ducati for me is the light weight, which at my age is a massive plus. I must say tho' that the new 2016 Bonnies look really cool and I can't wait to give them a try too.
+sfbdotcom Yes I agree with you on the urgency over the Bonnies! There's no doubt the Duke is a great bike, it just doesn't do it for me in the same way as the Triumphs do - and as you say, the new 2016 Bonnies look a step up again, so I'm holding onto my cash until I've had a chance to at least see those at the NEC in December.....exciting times ahead eh?
Well I've just read your review again having now had the experience of trying out a Street Twin and slinging a leg over the new T120 Bonnie. (It's still a good well-balanced review BTW). And... I'd still go with the Ducati, the T120 is quite a heavy machine and somehow looks it, especially when compared to older Bonnies which I think captured the look better. The Street Twin just felt a bit underwhelming, despite all the praise the press has lauded it with. Anyway, as you quite rightly said, horses for course and I think this machine will meet my personal needs, with of course a few mods to suit. Thanks again for a good review.
Enjoy!
Please do an updated review on this bike as they've made some changes since this one, now has a gear indicator and corner abs to name a couple
I went to the Kawasaki green Friday launch event last night already to fall in love with Z900RS which I kinda did. However on the way in I stopped to look at the 2018 Ducati Scrambler Desert Sled in shiny black. I kept looking back at it and now can't get it out if my head. Looks like I will be going on at least two test rides when I have saved enough to buy :-)
Nice one Nick!
Nick Hodson which bike did you go for?
An informative piece again thank you. Think if you have a Fiat 500 in the family this may fit in.
+Peter Taylor Thanks Peter - not sure I follow on the Fiat 500 front????
Fab review!
Cheers :0)
Saw a Australian review when they first came out, and they took both triumph and ducati scramblers to some very light off road terrain. Think it was the lightness and the poke that put the Ducati just in front for town riding, but the exhaust is to low even for light terrain and they managed to break it going over a couple of light rocks. They didn't mention how small the bike was though, so will scratch it off the list.
+GTs Garage ...well worth a look if you're in the market for something like this, certainly very performant and nice and light - styling just didn't win me over.....
Rode a. Desert Sled version of the Ducati Scrambler about a month ago. Very unimpressed with it. Seat was one of the worst seats I've ever experienced. I also did not like the rear shock digging into my leg at a stop. Power was pretty weak after 75mph. I came away from riding it disappointed, I thought about buying one a year ago. Thanks for the review TMF, as always top notch work!
+Thor Hansen Yes something about the Ducati scramblers that just doesn't do it for me too unfortunately - not sure why, just not a huge fan of these Ducatis.....
You think over 75 mph is needed or pleasant for a naked upright bike?
@@johnglover4318 I don't wanna limit myself to having fun on two wheels to about 100kmh. My Monster feels good to about 140 and then it becomes uncomfortable.
Hi TMF
Thanks for another great review.
Would be interesting if you compared the Ducati Scrambler to the R Nine T.
+Patrick Harrison Cheers Patrick - I do like the look of the R Nine T, if I get a chance to ride one I will put up a review but I don't have any plans on buying another boxer powered machine at this time so I'm not sure a comparative review will be imminent :0( Sorry about that. Thanks for stopping by and for your kind words - all the best - TMF.
+TheMissendenFlyer - No worries. I like the look of the R9T too, but a couple of grand more buys a more versatile boxer, the GS or GSA. That said when you see an R9T in a showroom you just think "wow". The build quality and finish is very impressive...the gurgle and pop on the overrun...oh sh*t hide the bank card.
I guess it's the sort of bike you buy to go on "coffee runs", sunny Sunday mornings, out before the roads get busy, etc. Would not want to take it out in the rain :)
+Patrick Harrison Indeed, it would definitely be a pride of ownership rather than a practical do-it-all machine (and I can certainly vouch for the GS being the king at that!). Cheers - TMF
Recently discovered your channel and I'm really liking your approach to reviews and riding. I would love to know your opinion on which bike is better for heavy traffic commuting, The Scrambler or the Street Triple? I own a GSX-R750 which is my fast road/Track weekend ride, and a Ninja 250R which I use for daily commuting (and it has worked well), but I want something more torquey and fast, while keeping the nimbleness, small profile and agility of the 250. Would really appreciate it if you could give me your thoughts on this. Cheers!
+Alclab V. Well I am very biased on this one as I wasn't a huge fan of the Scrambler but I am of the Street Triple - give me that any day! The STR is nimble, torquey, light weight and quick...perfect for commuting I reckon (to be fair so would the Scrambler be). Thanks for the kind words and welcome along to the channel, glad you are liking it...all the best - TMF
TheMissendenFlyer Thanks a lot for the tip! Exactly my thoughts, I guess I just wanted the confirmation to actually decide! Cheers!
really cool bike, always loved the retro look. one think that i didn't like on this particular model are the wheels, i would prefer to have spoke's to give it more that retro and scrambler look. but i assume that could be easily arranged, i think ducati has lots of aftermarket extra's to choose before to commit the cash.
Spokes certainly look good but are a pain to keep clean - maybe have a set of each to change as the mood takes you?? :0)
+ripmax333 You can go for the Classic or Urban Enduro models if you want spokes. But unfortunately they cost significantly more. Spokes are usually less rigid when in proper road, but are more preferable when the road has bumbs of off-road. I must say though that I have test-riden the Urban Enduro model, and still it was very solid and great handling.
I have been watching your reviews, they are very well done thanks, takes me back to my youth in England with those lovely country roads, now living in Canada. I have to admit I don't get the design of the Ducati Scrambler versions, they just don't look right to me, the tank and seat don't do it for me, not like the Ducati Classics from several years ago. From your camera's view the throttle / brake cables looping over the speedo look terrible, the Triumph Scrambler is much cleaner and the look is more authentic.I'd be interested to see you review a Street Twin Scrambler and Street Cup, they look very nice, might be a little low powered though.
Thanks Fred - I'm hoping to be borrowing a Street Cup from Triumph in the next month and the scrambler hopefully will follow....so stay tuned!
In the movie Venom they've falsely advertised the sound of this engine. While Eddie was riding on normal roads, it sounded like a superbike in a tunnel. If anyone buys this bike because of the sound effects in the movie - they might feel a bit disappointed
Yes it’s funny how bikes in films seldom have the right engine soundtrack….
Another good review, I don't like the clock & throttle / brake cables propped up in air look a bit of a after thought, round mirrors might be better for the style of bike. A case of old & new not working
+vince halls Yes that's exactly my point - you're either retro or you're not, missing the two as Ducati have done with this bike (great though technically it is) just doesn't work IMO.....cheers for watching and commenting once again, good to have you along!
+Samuel Graydon Sounds like we are in complete agreement! You weren't tempted to wait until the new Triumph Scrambler is announced later this month????
+TheMissendenFlyer No. A few reasons for this. Firstly I really really like the current bike so didn't see the point in waiting for something that might not be to my liking. Then there is the wait itself, how long until the new Scrambler is available? On top of that I'd rather wait a year or so and let them work out the inevitable teething troubles before jumping in. I can always trade in for a new one if they turn out to be amazing bikes but I have a feeling the older air cooled ones will be worth hanging on to, much like an air cooled 911.
+Samuel Graydon Completely get you on all those points, my thinking has been the same - my assumption is though that there will be some air cooled scrambler bargains once the new models have broken cover, but before they're widely available - think I might take a look at the NEC in November (and then probably decide air cooled is the way to go........!!). :Keep me up to date with how you get on - what colour have you gone for??
+TheMissendenFlyer I went for black in the end. I picked it up this afternoon and have booked the first service/arrow fitting for Saturday morning. So 500 miles to do in the next three days :)
+Samuel Graydon Nice one - doing anything with the back end?? Hope the weather stays fine for you the next three days.....did you get a good deal do you think???
+TheMissendenFlyer Well the weather hasn't stayed fine haha (we knew that would happen). As for the back end of the bike, I'm not sure yet but of course the OEM lights etc will have to go as they look terrible in my opinion. I do know that I want to keep with the off road theme of the bike and any mods I do will be with that in mind.
I don't think Ducati Scramblers are retro-bikes. They are modern / contemporary bikes.
If you look at a 2018 Lamborghini Aventador you wouldn't say it's a retro-car just because it looks vaguely similar to the 1970s Lamborghini Countach right? ;)
Yes I fully agree...
i like it, would be great to cruise in town.
looks like a grom^^
+Bavarian Biker Yeah, it's not much bigger than a Grom either!
+TheMissendenFlyer aiming the market at the 5' 5" hipsters with more money than sense.
I have a grom, and love the look of it, I mean if you guys are saying it looks and feels like grom that's perfect, I mean come on 803cc grom lol
Hi TMF Just looking over one of these in the local bike shop at the weekend for a possible upgrade to my wife's MT03. She liked it but it was the number on the side she didn't like :-) I think it's cool. I'd like a spin on one to be fair
Mmm, I wasn't that impressed with the Ducati for some reason.....perhaps it's time I had another go and see if my opinion has changed given I've now ridden a lot of other similar machines....not my cup of tea this one...
TheMissendenFlyer Yes, we all have the bikes that we love and some that just don't do owt for us. To be fair I think it's the cute scrambler look and the yellow paint that I like 😋
Nice machine😀
+Womanwolfrider yeah, nice, but not brilliant was the impression I was left with.....just my opinion though. Thanks for watching and commenting - TMF
I have a scrambler. It’s not “small”. Obviously it’s a relative term, but listening to some reviews, you’d think it’s a Grom. It’s not. It’s a beautiful machine with loads of torque. That snatchy throttle - it’s true but you get used to it quite fast.
Thanks for the real world feedback - it’s time I revisited the Scrambler I think.....
I don't know about anyone else but I was getting three distinct impressions from the styling. From the left hand side it looks like a Triumph. From the front, like a retro Honda and from the right hand side the almost Hypastrada exhaust style is pure Ducati
+InTheNameOfJustice ....yeah she is a bit of a mix of styles and I think that's why I don't instantly warm to it, even though, technically - on paper and when you're riding it - it is a great machine....cheers for watching and commenting, all the best - TMF
+TheMissendenFlyer Thank you for a great review.
+InTheNameOfJustice You're very welcome, thank you for saying so!
So if you were choosing between the Triumph Scrambler and the Ducati, which would you choose and why?
+fivefootsixtriumph .....a realistic question as it happens ;0) - I would go for the Trumpet as it (to me at least) just feels more authentic, looks properly retro, is more characterful and is a Triumph! Bizarrely the Duke is a little too quick for my tastes, these sort of bikes are for lazily enjoying the scenery. If I want speed thrills then there's always the Panigale (which I loved)....how about you??
+TheMissendenFlyer Agreed, almost too quick for what I'd want that type of bike for.
+Samuel Graydon Exactly....relaxed cruising it ain't.....
I have a Ducati Scrambler and I can say that the throttle is quite snatchy in 1st and 2nd, it's a characteristic of the bike, you do get used to it though.
+Mark Witherington Thanks Mark, it's not just me then! :0) Cheers for stopping by, enjoy the bike, all the best - TMF
I got my Scrambler Icon recently and, although I can get by with the snatchy throttle, I've ordered a G2 Throttle Tamer for it. Seems to be a popular mod on the forums. I like the speedo / rev counter style, btw :-)
I have one and love it. It’s a beautiful machine and fun to ride, but totally agree about the snatchy throttle. I also find the engine is quite hot when you’re not moving - I live in a hot climate. For me, handles very well. Cheers mate.
It's an around town hoon bike. High bars are always breezy on fast roads. Arm strengthening exercises. Not annoying reviewer.
the throttle is sensitive because the gearing is very low compared to the monster. They've gone to a much bigger rear sprocket. I believe it's too low.
What sort of range are you getting from a full tank?
About 130 miles for £13, 10 miles per £1.
I test rode one today. Fantastic performance and handling on a nice smooth road. However, ruined for me by a really snatchy throttle, harsh ride and uncomfortable seat. Plus it feels a bit - toy like. I wanted to get off of it pretty quick. Also it cut out on me for no apparent reason when filtering through traffic. After returning it I had a second test ride on a Triumph Scrambler to confirm my choice (the bike in my pic) and bought one in black with an Arrow system to be fitted at the 500 mile service. Happy days :D
I seen a street scrambler 8ball . Orange/white colour my favourite bike at the moment.
They since have fixed the "snatchy" throttle with the introduction of the 2017 Scrambler 800 model(s). just saying
It is 9,000 P. In Thailand / Thks. / informative /
Hello, do you think this is too snatchy and hard to control at low speeds or acceptable and something you get used to? I love this bike in many ways and would like to buy a used one. The new one is from what I hear much better. Thanks
No I think you’d get used to it….
Thank you!@@TheMissendenFlyer
Hey TMF, did you ask what the servicing costs were on the Scrambler? I was looking around the Ducati showroom a few months ago and was rather shocked at the servicing costs of the Multistrada.
That's one of the reasons I like the GS so much, the boxer engine makes maintenance so easy, even the valve checks/adjustments are a doddle......
Cheers DM
+DervMan .....no I didn't ask, as I was fairly quick to make my mind up that the bike wasn't for me so I wasn't as thorough as I otherwise would have been! Can't say I've noticed my BMW dealer being that cheap on the service front yet for my GS - one more to go and then I'm off to my trusted independent spanner man for half price servicing.....
+TheMissendenFlyer I was in my local Ducati dealer back in the summer (Riders Brislington) and the sales guy was saying a two year 'major' service was around £700! That's the beauty of the boxer, I was able to check/adjust the valve clearances in around an hour. I have no idea what the servicing costs are from a BMW main dealer but I'd hope it's half the Ducati cost given it's so much easier to access everything.... Perhaps I'm being naive ;-)
I even had the dreaded ABS motor failure on mine, BMW charge £1,200 for the motor alone. A bit of research on the GS forums and half a day of my time and it was fixed for 'free'.
All you need is a GS-911 and some thing to balance the throttle bodies (I use a Twinmax) and you can easily do all the servicing yourself. The GS is such a simple bike to work on. :-)
+DervMan Good news for us all then.....my first annual service on the GS at my local dealer cost over £800 (but that did include the supply/fit of the aux driving lights).....might have to pop up to yours next time with my toolbox :0)
+TheMissendenFlyer I expect the lights were £450 inc fitting...... I fitted a set of BMW spots on mine today, I have a HID bulb in the headlight so the spots are more about 'being seen'. I have the original GS-911 which won't work with the LC!
+DervMan Yeah I think you're right on the cost - and I too had mine fitted for conspicuity reasons (that plus they make you look dead cool.....if indeed that's even possible as a middle aged fat bloke on a BMW).
Is there majors differences between ducati Icon models from 2015 and recent models (2019, 2020...) ?
I don't know....
what is your favorite bike of all time? if you ll have only 1 bike.
Mmm, think it would have to be my trusty GS.....
just a curious as to when did the v twin become the L twin ? was always a "ducati v twin when i started riding back in 1981...
I dunno - sometimes they refer to "L" twin....maybe it's a marketing thing......
@@TheMissendenFlyer please don't think I'm criticizing you just I remember bikes like the 900ss and the pantah 500 as v twins but maybe my memory is beginning to go lol comes with age eh ! Happy New year to you and your family . Dave
They have always been L twins.
The concept of 'retro' is a stylistic fabrication, like relic-ed guitars. The Scrambler makes a slight nod to the original Scrambler singles, but it's entirely a modern interpretation of what a bike can be. As you stated, "It goes like stink and can't be faulted" so why the need to defend the Triumph in comparison? I also disagree the Scrambler is a small bike. It's heavier than my old Ducati 750 GT and similar dimensions to a 60s Bonneville - neither of which were considered small. The gearing is a compromise of dirt tractability and road ease, so yes, it's a bit short but a few fewer teeth on the rear sprocket seems to smooth out the snatchiness at slow speeds. This is a bike built to enjoy riding and it delivers on that amply.
i love this bike, the balance and torque remind me of the 2020 MT03 which i own, nice video, sorry you never liked the bike. 😞
I am not sure Ducati was thinking retro. Did they advertise it as a retro bike?.......Thanks again Sir........Sal : )
I think the marketing was more “hipster” but it’s definitely a “retro” machine based on Ducati Scramblers of the past....
Hi, regarding whether the Ducati Scrambler is a retro or modern bike, Ducati never called this bike a retro bike. The way Ducati put it from the very beginning was ... if we (Ducati) had never stopped producing scramblers in the 70s, this is what our scramblers would look like ... I read this in a newspaper article 2 years ago. So, it is a modern bike. It was never Ducati's intention to produce a retro bike.
Yes indeed, I remember reading that comment too, you are quite right...
sure enough she is pretty and fun to ride..but agree she to "modern " to be retro...
Lucky You that you have fun with all those beauties.. how do you do that??
+simone pozzoni Yes sorry Simone to have a downer on a Ducati, I love most things about Italy, and all Ducati sports bikes.....but this retro bike just doesn't connect with me. And as far as "how do I get to ride all those beauties" I tend to arrange test rides if my bikes are in for a service or work, today I had to take my little Honda to the dealer for it's recall work, so killed the time whilst I waited riding the baby Duke :0) ...it was fun!
+TheMissendenFlyer no worries, I completely agree with you..talking about Italian bikes,you should try the guzzi stelvio, I have a gs 800 and felt in love with the big moto guzzi, she might be the next one that I'll get..
+simone pozzoni Yes the big Moto Guzzi's are quite rare here too and it's always good to be a little different....will be interested to hear how you get on with the Stelvio if you do go for one. Personally I like the MV Augusta Dragstar.....but that's a different animal entirely!
I was always curious as to why Ducati didn't have the confidence to call it a Ducati and went with the Scrambler brand which is quite limited as far as potential new models go.
they seem to be doing alright with it though don't they (even though I wasn't that impressed with it)....
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Well Ducati just previewed their new Scrambler 1100 models and they are downright gorgeous.
Does this have a gear indicator on the 16 or 17 models
+p128sniper I don’t know - sorry!
No gear indicator or fuel gauge.
You know what, in my modest opinion, it's a bit of a youngster bike thanks to that toyish design and flashy colours...actually that may be the whole purpose of it; to attrack young people into the motorbike world as opposed to the world of electric scooters or superscooters as yamaha tmax for instance.
Can't understand much of what you say. Strong accent ! Where are you from? Moreover, the wind noise and vibration don't help.
Accent!? I don't have an accent! This is English from England.....
Mr Flyer has a very neutral BBC newsreader style accent, you couldn't get much more understandable! Try Geordie, Scouse, Glaswegian, Mancunian or Brummie!
I wish they'd move that cable away from the dial.
ducati need to take a looong look at the KTM v-twins as they are buttery smooth..even the single is!..why are ducati throttles still snatchy..some people love em..but once you feel the KTM twin its a no-brainer which is better
Hmm, but which bikes look better? (**ducks**)
I personally like the new-look and retro blending a lot - exept for that horrible digital speedo-meter of course! Right now, I am between buying this one, the MotoGuzzi V7ii and the Yamaha MT-07, which is no retro at all but similarly fun to ride, well set up too, and a lot cheaper. But the pillion will probably be suffering on the Yamaha, and I think that its build quality is nowhere near the Ducati.
+kaveiros75 ...actually my experience of Yamaha's are that they are excellent quality machines - I take it you've ridden each??
TheMissendenFlyer Yes, I have. For about half an hour each, but I tried to simulate every possible condition. Ducati and Yamaha where extremely fun to ride and very rigid. MotoGuzzi was very enjoyable too, but in a different way. The engine makes you feel great, it accelerates as hell, but when leaning over, it didn 't give so much confidence. Don 't know though if it were the worn out tyres of the demo bike or rear shock weakness.
On the MT-07 test ride bike, the plastics had gone somehow loose, with a lot less than 10.000 kms on. Of course... it was a demo bike too, so who knows?
My personal experience also shows me that usually (ok... not always) European bikes tend to look in better shape than the Japanese ones after some years of regular use.
I would like someone else (with long term experience) to comment on the MT-07 built quality though!
+kaveiros75 Yeah, trouble is the MT-07 hasn't been around for very long yet to comment!! Good luck making your decision....all part of the fun though eh?
TheMissendenFlyer Aha! I want a bike that feels great on a relaxed (short or longer) ride, solo or with a passenger... but also can give me good confidence and feedback when I feel like pushing things a bit harder. ;)
I do no track days, and my highway rides/travels have been decreased dramatically over the last few years. Since we are spoiled for choices nowadays... why not put my hard earned cash on a bike that will (certainly transport me but also) make me smile every time I ride it? :D
The Italians have designed some of the finest looking bikes in the world over the years, but they still manage to come up with something like this. Having said that, I bet it's a hoot to ride.
I'm watching this video in 2018. For those of you still watching in 2015, you'll be please to know that TMF is still maintaining his very high standards and turning out plenty on entertaining stuff.
Thanks very much for the kind words - much appreciated!
nice little thing but here in the US it wouldn't really make sense. Buell did that kind of thing here for a long time, we got sweet Buells of all kinds still out there for a fraction of that price with super torquey 1000s and 1200cc motors that are cheap and easy to work on. When you think about it, what does this offer that a M2, X1 or XB does not offer in spades, besides being Italian and being a Ducati? A 2000 dollar X1 will blow this thing out of the water...
+Gloomshadow100 I'm with you bud - the press seem to really love these machines, but give me my Triumph Street Triple any day! Cheers for watching and commenting - all the best...TMF
TheMissendenFlyer look at my videos and look at those two XB's that I built... guess what? Those two XBs cost me less than one of those scramblers.. go look at them and come back here and tell me if this bike makes sense. only in the mind of a hipster I think.
+Gloomshadow100 I agree - you are pushing on an open door with me here - but of course not everyone has the skill (or time, or inclination) to build or properly customise a machine themselves so bikes like the retro Ducati or the Triumph Bonneville's make sense for those.....
TheMissendenFlyer ha ha I am not saying that you disagree. I am just trying to make of the point that Ducati many not know what it is doing.. as far as the US is concerned. I love that little Ducati. but I just don't think its offering anything .. at least around here. Not unless you are a diehard Ducati fan.. and if you a fan, why would you want that one when Monsters are around?
+Gloomshadow100 100% with you bud.......and where'd you find those gorgeous ladies for your photo shoot vid? - must say I paid more attention to that video than your biking ones ;0P
In those days with less than 200 comments!
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Too much for a first big bike?
Not at all
Looks lovely but me being 6’2” I would look like a circus clown on it
Probably true! Thanks for watching - TMF
I'm also 6,2" and it isn't as tiny as people make out. It's taller than a Street Twin and same height as an R9T with the comfort seat. The narrow, low tank makes it seem smaller than it is. It's also a throwback to when all bikes were around this size.
Your driving on the wrong side of the road 😵
+ryan95240 I think you'll find this is the correct side........ ;0)
All the road marking arrows in the lanes are pointing the right way, that's a good start
ryan95240 are u blind or stupid or both??,
I like your videos but we differ in taste. Triumph retro bikes like the Bonneville are not retro. They are just F-ing old. This one is a perfect modern version flirting with old but performs and yes you can tell it is not 50 years old. Cheers
Fair enough!
(Hi Kids ) I wish he'd stop calling his viewers kids as I'm sure most of his views are not Kids!!
+Barrie Bland ...but surely we're all kids at heart aren't we??? Actually this makes me sound old as I mean it in the kind of way Tony Blackburn would....a sort of child of the 60's thing!! Sorry if it annoys you though......all the best - TMF
Fault the looks? Are you kidding me? This bike just begs you to ride it when you look at it.A Bonneville on the other hand puts you to sleep.
+Tuesdaysgonewtw Just my personal opinion of course, I think the Bonnie (especially the new T120) is a far better attempt at retro - the Duke is too toy like for me...but it is quick!
+TheMissendenFlyer By "toy like" do mean cheesy? or just too small? Was the bike stable on the highway? This bike for some reason reminds of a wonderful machine my parents bought me when I was a 15 year old kid. 1974 Honda XR 75 (man did I love that bike!) I think that's why I'm bound to own one of these sooner or later.
It's not trying to be retro!