How Much Lift Can a Stock Vortec Really Take? Plus .500 Lift Cheaply (Stock Guides)

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  • @mikef-gi2dg
    @mikef-gi2dg Рік тому +23

    Well well well...I must admit I didn't know that the factory didn't bottom out the seals. I also never considered 981 springs without the damper, well now. And to top off the list I NEVER considered machining the factory retainers by say .030...that alters the retainer to seal crash height, but not the valve tip height...both good and simple. You just revealed some info....NOBODY talks about....keep knocking it out the park!!!!

  • @garyriser8123
    @garyriser8123 Рік тому +23

    Finally a simple to understand explanation of these heads and fixes. Thank you.😊

    • @cuttersperformance
      @cuttersperformance  Рік тому +5

      Thank you Gary, I get so many messages and emails about confusing info on these heads. I am hoping this video helps clear things up for guys

  • @steelcitycaprice.899
    @steelcitycaprice.899 Рік тому +11

    I definitely see where I went wrong on my build with my 355 VORTEC sb. After snapping rockers off, wiping out two cams I see that I never took into consideration the valve seal clearance this video has got me totally on point to understand what it takes to make my combination work. Great post and awesome trick on retainer 👍🏾

    • @cuttersperformance
      @cuttersperformance  Рік тому +1

      Sorry to hear the issues you have had, how much lift were you running?

    • @steelcitycaprice.899
      @steelcitycaprice.899 Рік тому +1

      @@cuttersperformance 507 lift with 1.5 rockers and beehive springs and screw in studs

    • @thomaschandler4831
      @thomaschandler4831 Рік тому +2

      I’ve made the same mistake …. There’s a lot of math going into building engines!!! And I’ve learned the hard way 😂😂😂😂 now I’m doing better and get better … I will learn anything and everything from smarter fellas 🎉😁👍👍🏆

    • @thomaschandler4831
      @thomaschandler4831 Рік тому

      Change the rockers to rollers

  • @BDauto86
    @BDauto86 Рік тому +5

    Majority of this information has been around for many years I think where it gets confusing for people is all the different numbers.
    Anyways that was a neat little trick to show with seating the factory seals for alil more clearance. Thanks for sharing Pat.

    • @cuttersperformance
      @cuttersperformance  Рік тому +3

      Yeah exactly, one article days, .420, one says .450 and another .460. All these different numbers with no explanation for guys. Hopefully it will help clear things up

  • @KristoffKuche
    @KristoffKuche 6 днів тому

    I went to .100 longer valve with beehives installed at 1.8 using a Howards super towing hydraulic roller with 1.6 ratio rockers . This works fine with a 12.1 c/r dome piston with the plug pad milled slightly . This engine is on propane and has monstrous torque up to 4,800 rpm !

  • @gofastparts4u
    @gofastparts4u Рік тому +7

    Yep, the good old "ghetto grind" on the retainers and i use a $40 set of "Z28" springs with the inner damper removed. Cheap and Easy!

    • @cuttersperformance
      @cuttersperformance  Рік тому +4

      If you have access to a valve grinder, it's more of a "lower middle class grind" 😅

  • @jeremiahwasabullfrog8854
    @jeremiahwasabullfrog8854 Рік тому +1

    This is very good information. 👍 This is exactly what I did with my tbi 193 heads in my Camaro to run .480 lift hyd. roller. Springs, + .050 retainers, .060 spring washers. I had to grind the self aligning spurs on a set of Comp roller tips about .020 or so. Only thing I didn't do was check that the guides were seated all the way.

  • @CRUSHFACTORPC
    @CRUSHFACTORPC Рік тому +3

    I used a Comp Cams 292 H back in 1988 .501 lift in a stock head 79 z28 .. no issue BUT I knew guys that said I should refrain from that much lift.

    • @shootermcgavin2819
      @shootermcgavin2819 2 місяці тому

      Don't know why guys are saying that because most cylinder heads don't start flowing till 500 lift, even the late 70s smog heads. Now your 292 duration is a bit much though. My 79 Z28 is getting ported 462 camel hump heads and a camshaft similar to the one you had. Ill be going with the Edelbrock Air Gap intake manifold. What intake manifold did your z28 have?

    • @CRUSHFACTORPC
      @CRUSHFACTORPC 2 місяці тому

      @@shootermcgavin2819 I had a weiand that in magazine tests did slightly better than Holly and the basic Edelbrock. BUT the Cam I used at that time on My 406 Build was the Crane cams HMV 278 wich had 222 @ .050 and 234@ .050 with .464" on intake and .494" on exhaust with a 114 LSA. It was a Torque monster I had 64cc heads that were pocket ported to memove dingle berrys ect. With the 292 I had the stock z28 on the 350. The 406 Crushed that 350 it wasnt even close.

  • @frigglebiscuit7484
    @frigglebiscuit7484 Рік тому +5

    im tempted to try umbrella seals on my vortec heads. have always liked them for the ability to allow more oil into the guide. i dont mind adding more oil every now and then.

    • @cuttersperformance
      @cuttersperformance  Рік тому

      Yeah, I've used them before with no issues on lower lift cams with stock guides

    • @frigglebiscuit7484
      @frigglebiscuit7484 Рік тому

      @@cuttersperformance cant find any umbrella seals for a .560 guide. oh well.

    • @paulbass1369
      @paulbass1369 17 днів тому

      The 943x springs with the damper removed and a good ole umbrella seal will work with .500 lift flat tappet no issues.

  • @kermets
    @kermets Рік тому +1

    Pat is in the House......great video ....I really enjoy the quick talking and straight to the point.....

    • @cuttersperformance
      @cuttersperformance  Рік тому

      Thanks man! I was trying my best to keep the video around the 15 min mark haha

  • @tomrose6292
    @tomrose6292 Рік тому

    Glad to see a spring class .probly the most misunderstood subject about building motors.

  • @conservativecrusader80
    @conservativecrusader80 Рік тому +3

    Really great information! I really enjoy your in-depth vids about make budget stuff work better. Most of us are on a budget and this content is great. I had a question though could you also achieve more lift if a guy wanted to spend a little money on aftermarket roller rockers with a 1.6 ratio? I know jumping from a 1.5 to 1.6 nets you more lift, there an equation to find your new lift(I can't recall it off the top of my head). Thanks again for taking the time to do this stuff.

    • @cuttersperformance
      @cuttersperformance  Рік тому +2

      Take your current lift (say .500) Divide that by stock ratio of 1.5 to find your lobe lift (.500 ÷ 1.5 = .333). Now take your lobe lift and multiply that by your new ratio of 1.6. (.333 x 1.6 = .533) So now your lift is .533 with the 1.6 rocker arms, plus you gain a few degrees of duration.

  • @larryw5429
    @larryw5429 Рік тому +2

    My heads must of been cut down or something because I bought my set from right from a 602 engine and had them redone at machine shop with Ls1/ls6 springs, comp 787 retainers, 648 keepers and fel pro 72861 seals and had retainer to seal clearance of .611 lol! Spring install height 1.770 spring closed 115.lbs and at .500 300.lbs! Machine shop said good to over 6,500 rpm no problem with flat tappet!

    • @cuttersperformance
      @cuttersperformance  Рік тому +2

      Im assuming that's .611 without clearance, so you're good for .550 with .560 lift? They are probably stock guides if thats the case. Before covid hit, I was putting together beehive kits that allowed .580 lift on a stock vortec head with special retainers. But even the 787s allow for more lift than the stock retainers, especially with the taller installed height. Beehives are my first choice for vortec builds 👌

  • @No1414body
    @No1414body Рік тому +4

    Personally, I would just cut 060 from the guide, also I would consider using a +100 valve. Spring seat cutters and seal cutters are cheaper than a valve grinder if you don't have one. The tip on the felpro seals is great I've been using the o-ring type seal

    • @cuttersperformance
      @cuttersperformance  Рік тому +8

      Theres certainly more that one way to skin a cat but a valve grinder isnt actually needed. Years back, I did it with a bench grind and a flat file. Just took my time. $20 valve seals, $75 springs, and your good for .500 lift with a flat tappet cam

    • @baims8367
      @baims8367 Рік тому

      @@cuttersperformance what lift do these heads stop making power ??

  • @boomboom2673
    @boomboom2673 11 місяців тому +1

    I'm running a 488-510 roller cam with 550 lift springs 2500 stall on Vortec 062 heads runs great

    • @TheLitezpeed
      @TheLitezpeed 5 місяців тому +1

      Do you have part numbers ? I’m in a crunch with building my motor in 8 days and it would save me so much time

  • @douglash3129
    @douglash3129 Рік тому +2

    Hi, Man am I glad I subscribe to this channel! Great job and information we really need!! Thanks alot Man,great stuff!!👍👍👍👍

  • @glenclifton4563
    @glenclifton4563 Рік тому +2

    That was amazing!! Thank you for all this great information!!

  • @ronaldmiller8923
    @ronaldmiller8923 Рік тому +2

    I like the idea using a valve grinder to cut down a retainer. Do you have a better view showing what you do or use to hold the retainer on the valve? Are you using a stop to hold the valve-retainer in place so it dose not move and what is it? Thanks for sharing your knowledge and simple tips, Ron M

    • @cuttersperformance
      @cuttersperformance  Рік тому +3

      Using an old scrap valve, you simply flip the keepers and install the retainer upside down on the valve tip. Grind away the valve tip until your grinding the retainer. You can tig weld the keepers on the valve stem to stop them from falling off (or even a drop of super glue) Use the dial on the grinder to watch how much your taking off and verify with with a caliper. Works like a charm 👌

    • @ronaldmiller8923
      @ronaldmiller8923 Рік тому +1

      Thanks for the reply and info. What is the block used for that I see on the steam grinding fixture
      when you grind the retainer?

    • @cuttersperformance
      @cuttersperformance  Рік тому +1

      @Ronald Miller its a scrap valve, with the keepers flipped and the retainer installed upside down

  • @RCSmith90
    @RCSmith90 Рік тому +3

    Thank you so much for this info. Appreciate the videos man.

  • @SubePelayo928
    @SubePelayo928 Рік тому +3

    What is your opinion on the Lt4 hot cam and what springs do you recommend for that cam?

  • @larryburns4605
    @larryburns4605 11 місяців тому

    I did about same and used stock vin R roller cam in my work truck 1.y rockers stock engine works great

  • @BaileyMotorsports45
    @BaileyMotorsports45 15 днів тому

    How much extra clearance is gained by taking seals off completely? We typically don’t run seals in our dirt track engines.

  • @kiesha104
    @kiesha104 Рік тому +2

    Awsome info. Now comes my question of pushrods when you put 062 heads on a gen 1 block with a L79 cam..😮😮
    Lol

    • @cuttersperformance
      @cuttersperformance  Рік тому +3

      Push rod length needs to be check for every application but it will be close to the factory 7.800 inches (2pc block with flat tappat cam)

    • @evogibson92
      @evogibson92 Рік тому

      Yes, you can do it, a buddy put 40k miles on a smog 350 with the l79 and vortecs

    • @kiesha104
      @kiesha104 Рік тому +2

      @PISS-CUTTER Performance now, if ya wouldn't mind sending me some Tim Hortons. South Carolina isn't as close to the Great White North as my old home of Buffalo NY... be well bud..

    • @cuttersperformance
      @cuttersperformance  Рік тому +2

      @@kiesha104 haha Gotta love the Hortons

  • @brianrose2487
    @brianrose2487 Рік тому +1

    Again another great informative video! Take care

  • @lukemonson320
    @lukemonson320 Рік тому +2

    I wanna run a comp 262h cam with vortec heads do you think the springs will be maxed out so head they will wear out and break prematurely

    • @cuttersperformance
      @cuttersperformance  Рік тому +1

      Id probably go to a 981-16 spring. Just follow the video and make sure your valve seals are seated all the way.

    • @lukemonson320
      @lukemonson320 Рік тому

      @piss-cutterperformance I have springs off a 5.3 laying around will will installing them at 1750 instead of 1800 hurt longevity

  • @douglasvance2938
    @douglasvance2938 Рік тому +1

    Great info but too late, I’ve already set up my aluminum heads per your video 😊

  • @jasonbuben2653
    @jasonbuben2653 Рік тому +1

    I’m going to replace my valves, do you know if anywhere makes a bit taller valve stem to i could use the off set keepers?

  • @pockets5628
    @pockets5628 Рік тому

    When you drill out the pushrods holes to 1/2”, you don’t go all the way down alongside the port do you? Just the actual round opening, then stop before you drill alongside the port?
    Do you have any pictures?

  • @michaelhancock1603
    @michaelhancock1603 11 місяців тому +2

    Following this to a T! Any tricks on installing the 72861 Felpro valve seals? I'm getting them on, but it seems like I'm having to beat on them pretty hard to get them all the way down.

    • @cuttersperformance
      @cuttersperformance  11 місяців тому +1

      They should tap on firmly, and you'll hear a pitch change when they are seated

    • @michaelhancock1603
      @michaelhancock1603 11 місяців тому

      Thanks! Is there a chance that the guide boss on my 906's are of a different diameter? I'm reading that the 72861 seals are 0.545" and the guide bosses on the 906's are 0.560". @@cuttersperformance

    • @michaelhancock1603
      @michaelhancock1603 11 місяців тому

      Roger that, thank you. I'm reading that the ID of the seals are .545 while the OD of the boss is .560. Anything to worry about there? @@cuttersperformance

    • @cuttersperformance
      @cuttersperformance  11 місяців тому +1

      @@michaelhancock1603 i use them on any stock guide build I do

    • @michaelhancock1603
      @michaelhancock1603 11 місяців тому

      Excellence, thank you again!@@cuttersperformance

  • @brendanmahrt2387
    @brendanmahrt2387 Місяць тому

    What about comp 26906VCS-KIT. Supposed to be a drop in kit with no machining required . Any experience with this ?

  • @bowtiebum82
    @bowtiebum82 3 місяці тому

    What would be max on a hydraulic roller cam with this upgrade

  • @patricklandon8399
    @patricklandon8399 Рік тому

    Dude amazing video. Love ur content. Will the these springs along with all ur tips and tricks work on gen 2 LT1 heads as well?

    • @cuttersperformance
      @cuttersperformance  Рік тому +2

      Thank you, I appreciate the positive feedback. These tips apply to most 87+ sbc heads. The checks apply to any head

  • @leesutterlin1757
    @leesutterlin1757 Рік тому +2

    Thanks and dammit man, the cam I am gonna use is .550/.565 hydraulic roller, guess I am getting the guides cut down.

    • @cuttersperformance
      @cuttersperformance  Рік тому +2

      Yeah, guides cut, and probably pushrod guide plates would be a good idea

    • @leesutterlin1757
      @leesutterlin1757 Рік тому +1

      @@cuttersperformance I already have self aligning full rollers and screw in studs with no nut to retain the guide plate already installed.

  • @ldnwholesale8552
    @ldnwholesale8552 Рік тому

    Unsure of Vortecs but Fuellies are 1.72 installed heaght and around 72lb on the seat. So no good for performance cams. On those I have run springs up to 140lb seat pressure. With proper outers and flat wound dampers. You MUST use screw in studs. IF you turn 6000rpm that is an essential. You can cut the spring pockets about .050 max and use plus 050 retainers. Simple guide cutter for PC seals you can shorten the guides a little also.
    Look at the factory performance cams, from the 60s.

  • @raysilke5525
    @raysilke5525 7 місяців тому +1

    I ran the 980-16 with the dampers and they don’t fit over the guide properly and bind, ended up bending the pushrods, .488 max lift

    • @cuttersperformance
      @cuttersperformance  7 місяців тому +2

      Yeah, it's very important to remove the dampers. Good thing you figured it out

    • @raysilke5525
      @raysilke5525 7 місяців тому +1

      @@cuttersperformance I learned this from your video but I didn’t listen and screwed myself…. Love your content, I’ve completely assembled my vortec on your advice! RHS heads so some of the special work was already done!

  • @jamesglass3278
    @jamesglass3278 7 місяців тому

    So I would love to know what the spring pressures would be with all the hacks mentioned, we have a rule for tech to check spring pressure with lsm guage at.450 lift, and our max pressure is 105 seat, and 260lb open. How far off would I be ?

  • @keithwesley9880
    @keithwesley9880 Рік тому

    Well i c i cant get a response from u on "NONE" of my questions/comments so this well b my comment and last video i watch of urs !! 💯
    I still wish u best buddy, but this is the 2nd time i have commented and asked u a question about these vortec hesds with no response. And i c u have no problem responding to everyone else questions... 🤔
    Take care buddy 🤙

    • @cuttersperformance
      @cuttersperformance  Рік тому +2

      I try hard to get to all the comments but some I miss some man, I get many every day. I also dont always get notified for every comment, especially if it's a reply to someone else's comment. Sorry about that
      Whats your question?

    • @cuttersperformance
      @cuttersperformance  Рік тому +3

      I just searched back, I responded to your comment a month ago and on another video. Maybe you missed my response about your piston rings?

  • @arthurn9237
    @arthurn9237 Рік тому

    THIS IS ALL GOOD INFO THANK U BUT TELL ME WHY HAVE I WASTED (2) CAM'S IN A ROW WIPED THEM OUT NEARLY INSTANTLY (3) LOBES BOTH TIMES 🤔 MABY (4) NO DIRVING TIME AT ALL ALL HAPPENED WHILE
    GOING THROUGH LASH ADJUSTMENT AT IDLE

    • @cuttersperformance
      @cuttersperformance  Рік тому +1

      Sorry to hear about your troubles, I have a few questions. What cam/lifters were you using?
      What valve springs/ rocker arms?
      Did you follow a cam break in procedure during the first fire up? Lifters should be pre adjusted prior to the first fire up, that way the rpm can be brought up and kept there for 15 to 20 mins for break in.

  • @timmygun1
    @timmygun1 Рік тому +1

    Hey Pat ive got a question. Ive got two sets of these springs. Comp cam 26906-16 and retainers are 787-16 of course. The cam will be a summit stage 2 almost identical to lt4. CAN I USE THOSE SPRINGS.. MAX LIFT IS .520 IVE ive ordered .30 offset keepers to get that 1.8 installed heiggt. If i cant use those springs let me know. It is roller cam

    • @cuttersperformance
      @cuttersperformance  Рік тому +2

      I used the Summit Equivalent to the 26906 springs with the Lt4 hotcam, no signs of any valve float at 6500+ rpm on the dyno. When the 26906 is installed at 1.780" it is good for .540 lift.

    • @timmygun1
      @timmygun1 Рік тому +2

      @@cuttersperformance thank you brother. There almost identical in pressures etc etc and your rt woth factory locks not quite 1.8. Who sells +030 locks.

    • @cuttersperformance
      @cuttersperformance  Рік тому +2

      @timmygun1 competition products has them

    • @timmygun1
      @timmygun1 Рік тому +2

      @cuttersperformance ordered 3 sets. Thanks man. I'm gonna build a marine sb. I need to cut the spring and gudes down. You got those part numbers for the cutters and dowel. Thanks Pat. I promise I won't bug you anymore. But since we met. I'm on my 7th vortec block. You are awesome.

  • @illuminancecrt8930
    @illuminancecrt8930 9 місяців тому +1

    Great video, thank you for putting this out. Sorry for the dumb question: So the Fel-Pro seals are simply shorter than the stock ones, correct?

  • @juanlongoria2494
    @juanlongoria2494 Рік тому

    I sanded about .030 on the bottom of the keepers and it worked fine with a .490 lift

    • @juanlongoria2494
      @juanlongoria2494 Рік тому +1

      I'm using 416 HO HEADS FROM A 305 ON A 350 ,RUNS AMAZING

  • @b.s.adventures9421
    @b.s.adventures9421 Рік тому +1

    Great explanation and info.

  • @tmfilpansick
    @tmfilpansick 5 місяців тому +1

    Great video!

  • @robroan3196
    @robroan3196 2 місяці тому

    A Cam shaft with 480 lift, work with a 500 lift spring?

  • @jamesglass3278
    @jamesglass3278 7 місяців тому

    Also we can only use stock seals for.062 heads

  • @douglasvance2938
    @douglasvance2938 10 місяців тому +1

    I don’t know if you will know but I have those dna heads and I don’t know if I can use them on my stock engine. Any information would be greatly appreciated

    • @cuttersperformance
      @cuttersperformance  10 місяців тому +1

      The DNA aluminum heads can be used as a replacement head. You may have to use a smaller 1205 intake gasket to get a stock intake to seal on it, though. Longer pushrods may be needed as well

  • @danielesilvaggi
    @danielesilvaggi Рік тому

    Aren't the inner springs there in case the spring breaks that spring keeps the retainer lock in place so the valve does not fall into the cylinder?

    • @cuttersperformance
      @cuttersperformance  Рік тому +2

      Thats a dual valve springs your thinking of. The purpose of the damper is to help prevent spring surge but with the large vortec guide its causes more issues that it helps

    • @danielesilvaggi
      @danielesilvaggi Рік тому +1

      @@cuttersperformance Ah OK it's funny how we assume these things. Thank you for the info.

  • @greggsvintageworkshop8974
    @greggsvintageworkshop8974 Рік тому +2

    Great information!

  • @clarksgarageofbadhabits6803

    Awesome video! Helped me out a lot. I just want to confirm, it’s pretty much the same way with flat tapped and hydraulic roller? I’m building an L31 350 and wanted to make sure I’m in the clear. I also need cam recommendations, as I can only find mostly flat tappets

    • @cuttersperformance
      @cuttersperformance  Рік тому +1

      The springs in the video can be used for flat tappet hydraulics or mild hydraulic roller cams under .500 lift. I have some more vortec builds/dyno results coming up that might help you with a cam choice

  • @slayerofsouls1182
    @slayerofsouls1182 Рік тому +2

    Man iam running ls1 beehives and and the offset keepers with retainers from comp cams. I also had the guilds cut and iam using a blue seal that the machine shop gave me but i think they are simular to the felpro. its been fine but iv been using the factory vortec rockers. my cam was a new old stock 12-268-14 which is .480 intake and .480 exhaust. i guess i got room to grow!!! iam super curious if instead of risking another cam break-in i might just increase the rocker arm ratio.

    • @cuttersperformance
      @cuttersperformance  Рік тому +2

      Youll have tons or clearance man, i usually dont cut the guides until .550+ lift. Beehives are usually my choice on most builds but for a flat tappet a single reg spring works well. You could certainly add a 1.6 rocker arm to increase lift but make sure you have rocker arm to retainer/keeper clearance.

    • @BDauto86
      @BDauto86 Рік тому +1

      I agree with the cam/lifter epidemic I would agree on 1.6 rockers.
      Just be careful on your selection with those also being self aligning as Pat stated they can be tricky with retainer/keeper clearance as well.

    • @rockfordhx2768
      @rockfordhx2768 Рік тому +1

      @@BDauto86 just add guide plates and forget the self align rocker go roller tip 1.6 and call it a day for ur build

    • @baims8367
      @baims8367 Рік тому +1

      @B&D Auto I’m about to use 1.6 steel roller tips all the rule allows me to use. But will guide plates go on these heads with the press in studs? What all is necessary to adding guide plates will different push rods be needed ?? Just wanna be clear I appreciate ya brother

    • @rockfordhx2768
      @rockfordhx2768 Рік тому +1

      @@baims8367 not sure I ran a 7/16th screw in studs with guide plates to get rid of the self align I got the studs with the hex shank on it that’s why I had to cut the bosses down to make up for height difference

  • @babbab9016
    @babbab9016 Рік тому

    What is your opinion on the Jegs Vortech heads

  • @LucasForziati
    @LucasForziati Місяць тому

    So i have a comp cam that has a lift of .474/.474 cant remember exact. For a stock 1998 vortec engine with the better flowed heads. Will that no longer work? I beleive the duration is about 210ish

    • @LucasForziati
      @LucasForziati Місяць тому

      270/274 duration, .474/.474 lift with a 111 lobe seperation

  • @malcolmburton9481
    @malcolmburton9481 Рік тому +1

    With that set up could you run a zz4 cam thanks

    • @cuttersperformance
      @cuttersperformance  Рік тому +3

      The 981 springs (or similar) can technically only handle upwards of .500 lift. I will be doing a ZZ4 hot cam vortec build, so I will post a video on what spring setup im using

    • @malcolmburton9481
      @malcolmburton9481 Рік тому

      Thaks

  • @slayerofsouls1182
    @slayerofsouls1182 Рік тому +1

    DId vortecs come with rotating exhaust retainers? I know early chevy heads did.

  • @tylermccarren565
    @tylermccarren565 Рік тому +1

    I'm having a few issues. I'm looking to run comp cams 787-16 with their 26906-16 springs with 0.030 offset keepers and I can't figure out my clearance. It should be around .550 right?

    • @cuttersperformance
      @cuttersperformance  Рік тому +2

      Check out my LS6 spring on vortec video to check clearance easily at home

  • @jeffreyarthur1056
    @jeffreyarthur1056 Рік тому +1

    Have you done or have any info on adding 1.6 rockers on a stock lift L31. Appr. .414 .428 stock - .442 I /.467 E

    • @cuttersperformance
      @cuttersperformance  Рік тому +1

      It can be done but as seen in the video make sure your valve seals are fully seated or they will probably hit

  • @jonmathieu7932
    @jonmathieu7932 Рік тому

    Will the push in rocker studs try to pull out with .480 lift ?

  • @oldvsnew3400
    @oldvsnew3400 Рік тому +1

    I was wanting to break in summit 1103 cam int 444/466 ext on stock vortec springs and 7.794 stock push rods then run it for about 1k miles or so. Is that alright? The block and heads only has 118k.

    • @cuttersperformance
      @cuttersperformance  Рік тому +1

      Shouldn't be any issue as long as the valve seals are fully seated like shown in the video.

    • @malcolmburton9481
      @malcolmburton9481 Рік тому

      Can I run zz4 cam with the 981 spring Cut down retainer 30 thou offset keppeer an seal thanks

    • @cuttersperformance
      @cuttersperformance  Рік тому +1

      @@malcolmburton9481 the 981 springs are technically only good for .490 lift

  • @bigal878
    @bigal878 Рік тому +1

    Great video 👍🏻🇦🇺

  • @GrandmaRob
    @GrandmaRob Рік тому

    Good video and helpful information

  • @derekrideau3516
    @derekrideau3516 Рік тому

    Have you ever seen or used the promaxx vortec heads?

    • @cuttersperformance
      @cuttersperformance  Рік тому +2

      I have not used the promaxx heads. I may have to try and get a set as ive been asked about them a few times now

  • @patrickwendling6759
    @patrickwendling6759 Рік тому +1

    Thank you for your knowledge and videos USA 🇺🇸 USA 🇺🇸

  • @robertchavez2864
    @robertchavez2864 4 місяці тому

    What about a roller camshaft? Will it work

    • @cuttersperformance
      @cuttersperformance  4 місяці тому

      On a very mild roller, yes, but you probably would want to go to a beehive setup. Check out my videos on that

  • @tj484
    @tj484 Рік тому +1

    With the bee hive I can run an488 288 cam no prob

  • @jamesr.6869
    @jamesr.6869 9 місяців тому

    I'm trying to run vortec heads I have 525 lift and I need 300lb springs and summit racing in having trouble helping me . Can you help

  • @aarontsosie9807
    @aarontsosie9807 4 місяці тому

    Where are you located?

  • @Tota1Everything
    @Tota1Everything Рік тому

    What offset keepers were used

  • @brenthealy7014
    @brenthealy7014 Рік тому

    What cam would you recommend with 1.6 rockers ?

    • @Se7enthsonSS
      @Se7enthsonSS Рік тому

      Any cam. Doesn’t make a difference. Just know 1.6 increases the lift as opposed to a 1.52. The fulcrum point increases therefore increases valve opening

  • @say1o
    @say1o Рік тому

    No issues? lol i've seen em push rocker studs out with a .460 lift cam

    • @cuttersperformance
      @cuttersperformance  Рік тому

      I tell guys over 300lbs over the nose you should have screw in studs. They are never a bad idea but ive never seen them pull with springs weaker than that unless theres not enough clearance to the retainer and they are smashing the retainer into the seal/guide.

  • @approachingtarget.4503
    @approachingtarget.4503 Рік тому +2

    More importantly, at what lift are these heads designed to operate in. Why lift to .600+ if the heads flow the greatest efficiency at .500!

    • @luckyPiston
      @luckyPiston Рік тому

      Because of a thing called "area under the curve" , if your peak flow is at .500 it would be a waste not to do everything you can to lift past that

  • @melvingrantdiy1436
    @melvingrantdiy1436 21 день тому

    Can the spring damper cause binding?

    • @cuttersperformance
      @cuttersperformance  21 день тому +1

      Yes

    • @melvingrantdiy1436
      @melvingrantdiy1436 19 днів тому

      @cuttersperformance I've been watching your videos for a while I'm doing my first build it's a gen 1 block with vortec heads and I rotated the engine over a dozen times by hand with the push rods in and it didn't seem to have a problem but the last time I did it my push rods bent I used 7.8 rods cam is .420/.433 and the springs i saw on one of your videos 980-16 but I left the dampers in any advice you could offer would be greatly appreciated

    • @melvingrantdiy1436
      @melvingrantdiy1436 19 днів тому

      @@cuttersperformance also right before I noticed the bent push rods I was priming the engine with priming tool while cranking by hand at the same time idk if that was the wrong thing to do

    • @melvingrantdiy1436
      @melvingrantdiy1436 12 днів тому

      @@cuttersperformance thank you for your insight I removed the dampers from the springs and everything rotates with no binding

  • @magnusdanielsson2749
    @magnusdanielsson2749 Рік тому +1

    The cutting tool for cutting down the spring pocket isnt that expensive from Goodson and kan be used with a hand held drill och stand drill.
    There are very affordable beehive sorings from LS engines for instance. Keepers from Melling are also pretty affordable.
    But many cheap things get expensive when added up 😅

    • @luckyPiston
      @luckyPiston Рік тому

      You would only use a spring seat cutter if you need more installed height which is not really what this video is about

  • @HOMEWORK4.0
    @HOMEWORK4.0 Рік тому

    Hotrodding baby!!!

  • @arthurrodesiler3109
    @arthurrodesiler3109 Рік тому

    With pressed in rocker arm studs I would not go over 450 lift.

    • @cuttersperformance
      @cuttersperformance  Рік тому +2

      Its more rpm/spring pressure with press in studs. Generally less than 300 lbs over the nose and under 6k rpm, the press-in studs are fine. But going screw in studs is never a bad idea for any situation

    • @Se7enthsonSS
      @Se7enthsonSS Рік тому

      I’m currently out the game cause my heads had to come off to replace the press on studs. Wish my engine guy made a bigger point with that. Last week 4 studs pulled out and I lost 4 lifters and 4 rockers.

    • @cuttersperformance
      @cuttersperformance  Рік тому

      @kyff232 o dang sorry to hear that man! How much spring pressure were you running?

    • @Se7enthsonSS
      @Se7enthsonSS Рік тому

      @@cuttersperformance not quite sure to be completely honest. They’re double valve springs with dampeners so I’m assuming 350 atleast open. Upgraded springs for a 510/515 cam. Everything was fine until 5500-6000 open run Definitely needed screw on studs. Now I’ve got new rockers and lifters lol .

    • @cuttersperformance
      @cuttersperformance  Рік тому

      @kyff232 o jeez yeah, over 300 lbs its a real coin flip once you bring the rpm up. Alot of guys dont believe me but ive seen it many of times

  • @paulz2641
    @paulz2641 11 місяців тому

    The l31 isn't a great head.

  • @sarahstephens5966
    @sarahstephens5966 5 місяців тому

    What's this obsession? The intake ports stall above 0.480", so order a dual pattern cam with no more than that. Done.

  • @arthurn9237
    @arthurn9237 Рік тому

    OH THAT'S VORTEC HEADS ON AN OLD SCHOOL 4 BOLT MAIN 2 PIECE REAR SEAL BLOCK
    AND NOT A HIGH LIFT CAM NOT STOCK BUT NOT RADICAL IN ANY CASE I ONLY BUILD
    CHEVY MOTORS AND HAV DUN SO FOR OVER 50 YEARS AND THIS IS A FIRST 4 ME
    WITH PLENTY OF ASSEMBLY LUBE ALONG WITH GRAPHITE IN MY CAM LUBE MIX I'M PISSED HERE NICE HEADS BUT ☝️ W T F O

  • @pmd7771969
    @pmd7771969 Рік тому

    A spring shim. He said valve shim.

  • @rockfordhx2768
    @rockfordhx2768 Рік тому

    What’s the number for the keepers I watched the whole video u didn’t mention the part number

    • @cuttersperformance
      @cuttersperformance  Рік тому +3

      .030 offset keeper part number is at 10:30 mark in the video .
      VTO part# 4134

  • @Wanous-hv7zo
    @Wanous-hv7zo Рік тому +1

    Great video

  • @vtwinaddicted5852
    @vtwinaddicted5852 Рік тому

    Is you id dimension without damper?

    • @cuttersperformance
      @cuttersperformance  Рік тому +1

      Yes. And youll find that the company's advertise the ID measurements without the damper aswell

  • @markgibbons6176
    @markgibbons6176 10 місяців тому

    Does this tech cross over to the 4.3 Vortec also?? I have multiple 4.3 & 5.7 Vortec engines....