Corwin, Julia, DZ and Jesse ponder if is there too much diving in the NHL, the teams most likely to make an upset and if Ryan Getzlaf is a Hall Of Famer.
This might sound random but you guys the Bardown crew made me more interested in hockey. I know NHL a lil bit, but never watched a full game. Yet, this channel came on my UA-cam timeline so random during lockdown (I live in the UK btw) but I taught oh well, lemme watch something new. Been watching your content for like a year now (wow im actually shocked thinking about it) but honestly i thank you guys for showing that hockey is a cool sport to watch aswell, from the quizzes (R.I.P. Johnny💐) to the short clips and now podcasts. And lastly keep up the good work and showcase the rest of the world how great this sport is!! Still a “chirp” in the sport but I’m getting there. From a Dutch/Nigerian dude living in the UK In case you’re wondering……… Go Habs!! (I know, I know they are terrible this season, but I love the city so yeah hahaha)
The BarDown gang are personalities that I associate with the post-COVID-19 world. They have been friendly faces during times where we didn't see enough faces. They remind me that sports, just like art, should be discussed, debated and considered. It's such a fun and modern way to promote shared interaction. I wish you guys would do a road trip all the way to Vancouver, so that we could run into Jesse's Jets jersey, Corwin's Leafs jersey, Julia's Habs Jersey, Luca's Avs jersey, and Z looking dapper in a suit for some reason. You guys (and girls) are awesome, and I thank you for bringing smiles to our faces and laughter into our lives.
5 might be too much, maybe call the embellishment and not the other player regardless of how bad the original penalty was, and then a fine to the player who embellished, or maybe 5 for embellishment, and it is a reviewable play.
Double penalties are perfect. They COULD'VE had a power play, but because one asshat decided to try and sell the trip/hook/whatever like a pro wrestler, then the whole team gets punished for not getting that power play.
Seriously... exactly how exclusive is the HOF? 1000 points and cup + medals isn't enough now? there are only 98 players in history with 1000 + points! Pretty sure they all belong in the hall. That's elite within elite within elite.
I can get behind the Buff comment as originally said "6th best while he played", certainly one of the more dominate defensemen during his playing seasons 07/08 - 18/19. Buff as a whole package, both ends of the ice, night after night, year after year - not just offensive pop like a Karlsson numbers.
"There were many posters denouncing that terrible act that is too often encountered in football, diving; Ashley Young, a player for Manchester United is shown in a parody of Bruce Willis’s Die Hard in Dive Hard 2; Iain Mcintosh of ESPN Soccernet addressed the prevalence of diving in soccer; While these acts happen, people point to better refereeing to remedy the situation, but it is not as simple of a fix as one would assume possible. Unfortunately, in these situations, the referee is put into a tight bind. Since player safety is always the utmost priority on their part, how can referees eliminate instances of obvious cheating? Macintosh suggests that to remove diving from the game we can completely eliminate it by playing the advantage in these situations as the most extreme solution. Interestingly, he also proposes the use of a panel to determine how to dole out retrospective punishment for these major offenses that can easily dictate the outcome of crucial matches from the Champions League to the World Cup stage." Nov. 7, 2013
I think Perry gets in way before Getzlaf. Perry has won pretty much everything he ever competed for. World Juniors, Memorial Cup and Team of the Century with the London Knights, World Championship, Olyimpic Gold, Stanley Cup, World Cup of Hockey and Hart trophy. Guy has a stacked resume
two great run with Dallas and Montreal. He was such a important piece last year and i love him so much. I would be happy for him if he won. He would be a Hall Of Famer 100%
McDavid is definitely a "lock" assuming his career continues. I don't know if his resume, were he to retire today, gets him in. It's just that we can see, even if he were to start declining (which isn't happening for at least a few more years, barring injury), he's almost a lock to hit 250 goals, 500 assists next year. Pretty safe bet he hits 1000 points within 5 years. Add in the awards, and even if he never sniffs a Cup, that's getting hm in on the first vote. Matthews is likely in the convo for top American player of all time (easily in the top-5 American forwards). However, he's never had a period in his career where you'd say he was THE best player in the league. He probably needs to hit 500 goals and/or win a Cup or 2 to lock it in. Maybe not as much of a lock as McDavid, but still someone who is like a 90% lock already.
I think at this point, with over a decade left in their careers, the entire conversation is a bit premature.... also, I'd argue right now, for this second half of the season at least, Matthews has been THE best player in the league. Based on these past 3 seasons, if Matthews is decently healthy throughout his career he will slaughter 500 goals.
@@KS-xk2so I completely agree that Matthews will have the numbers. I'm just responding to the claim that McDavid could retire today and get in, which I'm not quite sure is true. With Matthews, his only question mark is staying healthy long enough to put up the numbers he's capable of, but, as an American, I'm 100% rooting for him, even if I don't particularly care for the Leafs. But, I very much agree that these convos are premature, since both are easily gonna have the numbers to get in, barring something horrible.
@@Jay-yr9oi McDavid could absolutely retire today and get in, he has more awards than many current HoFers/locks. Low totals would be ignored in favour of dominant per game metrics and awards. After 7 seasons in the league he has 4 Art Rosses, 2 Harts, and 3 Pearsons. He's been the most dominant player in the league since his 4th ever game, if he retired and didn't make it he would undoubtedly be the most egregious omission in all of athletic HoF history.
Gally wasn't complaining about Stützle drawing penalties, he was complaining about the fact that he lies on the ice as if he is hurt but then plays the next shift. Never said a word about diving either.
He was injured the next two games though. People compare hormones and a strong mindset and spirit with unsportsmanlike conduct. It shouldn't be like that
As someone who grew up up the street from Anaheim, I 100% think Getzlaf deserves to be in the HOF just because o how big of an impact he had growing the sport in that area, like when my brother was in elementary school Getz and Perry came and helped open a ball hockey court on the playground
Do a segment resorting the leadership of all the teams. New Associate captains and Captains. (No one gets the same letter, but they can get a different one)
I don’t think it’s a coincidence that players have been diving more and refs have been god awful lately. I think solving the diving problem should make the ref’s jobs easier
There's too much diving in the NHL. And there's too many liberties on ice in the NHL. Was better when you'd pay the price immediately, if you took too many liberties.
what there really is to much crap after a clean hard hockey hit a clean hit is a clean hit get up and try and get some back with a clean hit but if a dirty hit the old days he had to deal with the tough guy they should never of moved away from this
You can't truly compare players from different eras, you know that, right? A list of the best 100 players will always be flawed. Sure, players now workout much harder, are in better shape, but they also have much better equipment and training! How do you think Bobby Orr would do growing up in this era? I mean, we'll never really know... Yes, to Tony Karlsson's comment in the chat...what about a player's all around game (defense and offense). At one point, I certainly would rather have had Toews than Malkin as my top centre. He was Canada's best player in the 2010 Olympics and a huge reason for the Black Hawks success (Stanley Cups). Maybe they could do a top 100 players of each decade? (that would make more sense) Even if they did a top 70 forwards and top 30 defensemen.
At one point maybe! But by the end, their careers don't compare at all in hindsight. Malkin only played 26 more games than Toews yet he had almost 400 more points.
Honestly, I prefer players getting a penalty for embelishment, rather than getting a fine after the game. Given their salaries, 2-min penalty is much bigger punishment than $5,000 fine.
Comparing Gallagher and Stutzle’s penalties drawn isn’t apples to apples. There’s more than one way to draw a penalty. Gallagher draws most of his penalties by digging in hard and getting mangled on a regular basis. And because of his reputation, actually misses out on many, many calls that would be called. Not the same thing as someone whips there head back to sell a ghost high stick, or flops around on the ice etc.
Guys I watched my blues struggle to climb the playoff hill and nothing took that group to think they can do it more than beating that Chicago team round 1. Beating Boston would be a MASSIVE deal for Toronto to learn how to be winners and break the curse
If we were to some how have a way to put all the GOATS together and simulate the games I would pick Big Buff as a 4rd pair D man There is no player in NHL history as strong as him and he would simply throw guys like Peter Forsberg into the boards He literally blocked 3 other full grown men from running into his own goalie and proceeded to take them all into the board for a 4 man collision He could have killed Mark Stone BUT. HE. LET. UP. I aint saying he is the 6th best D man of all time, but put prime Chara and Big Buff on a line together and they win 10 cups just from putting the other team into the stands every shift
I am comparing prime to prime if you actually read the comment with some nuance Why the fuck would I compare a rookie buff to a retired forseberg? Buff didnt play D until the end of his career anyway
I know this is 8 months old, but my goodness Tristan Jarry is like oragami in the playoffs. Dude plays good in regular season, then tanks like payton manning. Pens need to get rid of him or theyll never have a stanley cup.
It’s funny that they hate on the Oilers so much when they have 9 straight home game wins, and have won 6 in a row. They’re probably one of the hottest teams in the league right now, and they’re 2nd in the pacific. What’s the hate for?
Stützle was on the power play because 1 second after an injury it hurts. 1 minute after adrenaline is pumping and distracts you from pain. 1 day after your injury is swelled up and you can’t play. Simple. Stützle didn’t dive on the knee play, he was hurt. Sure he might exaggerate things to ensure a call 1/5 times, didn’t happen on the knee play.
Praying that Stutzle's injury is just a charlie horse. He knew it was bad during the game but could play, woke up with the next day with a bruise the size of Gallagher's ego on his knee and couldn't play.
I'm honestly still bitter that Jumbo Joe was left off the list of top 100 players. I know he doesn't have any cups (I'm cheering for Florida this year so he can get one) but he was one of, if not the, best playmakers of his generation. If you look at the people he played with (during his prime, I'm not comparing to his 42 year old season) and how they performed before/after playing with him versus how they performed while playing with him, it's very clear that he played a huge role in their success. I know there's extenuating circumstances (double sports hernia surgery that went poorly), but a guy like Cheechoo winning the Rocket Richard would never have happened if Jumbo hadn't come to San Jose.
Stutzle is actually injured Gallagher is a clown but I will admit Stutzle does dive on occasion but so does Gallagher so I dont know why he was complaining
Lol yeah no… whether Gallagher was right or wrong about his post game comments, there’s a reason Stutzle has a league wide reputation as someone who embellishes often, Gallagher does not.
@@DarkHex2576 he doesnt though and also hes injured how can you dive if your injured he played through it against the Habs. I've seen Gallagher flop all the time and he did it earlier this year against Ottawa hes a joke. Stutzle didnt dive in the Habs game Habs are just shit and Gallagher just needs excuses for when hes in the AHL next year
@@ewCum ya ik he still dives not as much but pretty pathetic he goes after a 19 year old that hasnt fully developed physically to make himself feel good about himself
@@eliaminator2313 imo in the culture of hockey, it important to not dives. This is not good for his reputation in a game where people played with injuries during the majority of the playoffs. People who’s hating on soccer are those guys who dosent like the diving on soccer. But i mean his diving make his team score. That a great strategy ngl but not good for his reputation.
Getzlaf is not even close to the Hall of Fame. Less then 300 career goals, only ever scored more then 30 goals once. Not a point per game player. No individual awards. 1 time NHL all star. Jeremy Roenick has over 500 goals, over 1200 points. 9 time NHL all star and he isn’t in the Hall. No way Getzlaf gets in the Hall if Roenick isn’t in.
If it wasn't for his international success, Getzlaf would have no shot at the hall whatsoever, since international play is taken into consideration (which I don't like) he will get in for sure. Also Don't flame Tim Stapleton, he is a Chiclets legend! Calling embellishment in the arena is a good idea because the "embarrassment" of being called for embellishment in the sort of honest tough guy culture of hockey is a deterrent on its own.
It's taken in account because it is the Hockey Hall of Fame and not the NHL Hall of Fame. Without including international play, players like Vladislav Tretiak who was never able to play in the NHL due to the Cold War would have never had a shot. Also, it gets very annoying when players like Daniel Alfredsson has to sit and wait because he never had a Cup even though he had international success, over a 1000 games and was the first Swedish Captain to take his team to the Finals while it feels like almost every 80s Oiler gets in due to being a part of that dynasty. I think the Cup gets taken way too much into account.
Stuetzle is a diving machine. Gallagher chose a bad play to speak out about but yea that guy has been in the league for only a few years and already has embellishment montages.
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This might sound random but you guys the Bardown crew made me more interested in hockey. I know NHL a lil bit, but never watched a full game. Yet, this channel came on my UA-cam timeline so random during lockdown (I live in the UK btw) but I taught oh well, lemme watch something new.
Been watching your content for like a year now (wow im actually shocked thinking about it) but honestly i thank you guys for showing that hockey is a cool sport to watch aswell, from the quizzes (R.I.P. Johnny💐) to the short clips and now podcasts.
And lastly keep up the good work and showcase the rest of the world how great this sport is!! Still a “chirp” in the sport but I’m getting there.
From a Dutch/Nigerian dude living in the UK
In case you’re wondering……… Go Habs!! (I know, I know they are terrible this season, but I love the city so yeah hahaha)
Appreciate that, Presley! Happy to hear we’ve helped to introduce you to the sport. Hope you’re still lovin it!
bardown turned me into a casual hockey fan for sure. made me buy chel 22 since 17. thank you guys btw
Diving talk starts at 26:00
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The BarDown gang are personalities that I associate with the post-COVID-19 world. They have been friendly faces during times where we didn't see enough faces. They remind me that sports, just like art, should be discussed, debated and considered. It's such a fun and modern way to promote shared interaction.
I wish you guys would do a road trip all the way to Vancouver, so that we could run into Jesse's Jets jersey, Corwin's Leafs jersey, Julia's Habs Jersey, Luca's Avs jersey, and Z looking dapper in a suit for some reason.
You guys (and girls) are awesome, and I thank you for bringing smiles to our faces and laughter into our lives.
True fact, in his time with the Jets, Ron Hainsey scored more own goals (4) than his entire goal total with the team (0)
So maybe the Ron Hainsey curve is actually just a left handed stick?
Easy fix. 5 for diving, 2 for the penalty. I’ll bet that would cut it down.
Underrated comment
5 is way too much for a call that is up to the refs opinion like that
If anything I feel like a double minor would fit better than giving a major for diving tbh
5 might be too much, maybe call the embellishment and not the other player regardless of how bad the original penalty was, and then a fine to the player who embellished, or maybe 5 for embellishment, and it is a reviewable play.
@@idontknow9621 call it a few times and folks would get the memo.
Great video/podcast! You guys are the most fun hockey discussion online
Jesse listing off the 11-12 Jets team at 24:51 is hilarious
Double penalties are perfect. They COULD'VE had a power play, but because one asshat decided to try and sell the trip/hook/whatever like a pro wrestler, then the whole team gets punished for not getting that power play.
Corwin has clearly never seen Mark Messier defending himself with his stick because he was scared to fight Larry Robinson
Messier wasn't scared of anything.
@@11DNA11 he wouldn't fight Robinson so he clearly was scared of him
Getzlaf is top 90 in points ALL TIME.. How is that not HOF worthy? Along with a cup and gold medals..
Seriously... exactly how exclusive is the HOF? 1000 points and cup + medals isn't enough now? there are only 98 players in history with 1000 + points! Pretty sure they all belong in the hall. That's elite within elite within elite.
Love the Robert Lewandowski jersey, Polska numer jeden davaj chłopaki, puchar dla Polski
pls do moreee, love these😍
I can get behind the Buff comment as originally said "6th best while he played", certainly one of the more dominate defensemen during his playing seasons 07/08 - 18/19. Buff as a whole package, both ends of the ice, night after night, year after year - not just offensive pop like a Karlsson numbers.
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"There were many posters denouncing that terrible act that is too often encountered in football, diving; Ashley Young, a player for Manchester United is shown in a parody of Bruce Willis’s Die Hard in Dive Hard 2;
Iain Mcintosh of ESPN Soccernet addressed the prevalence of diving
in soccer;
While these acts happen, people point to better refereeing to remedy the situation, but it is not as simple of a fix as one would assume possible. Unfortunately, in these situations, the referee is put into a tight bind. Since player safety is always the utmost priority on their part, how can referees eliminate instances of obvious cheating? Macintosh suggests that to remove diving from the game we can completely eliminate it by playing the advantage in these situations as the most extreme solution. Interestingly, he also proposes the use of a panel to determine how to dole out retrospective punishment for these major offenses that can easily dictate the outcome of crucial matches from the Champions League to the World Cup stage." Nov. 7, 2013
Are you guys posting this on Spotify
Pls, rank where on alltime list of defensmens is Sandis Ozolinsh? Pls i need an answer
I think Perry gets in way before Getzlaf. Perry has won pretty much everything he ever competed for.
World Juniors, Memorial Cup and Team of the Century with the London Knights, World Championship, Olyimpic Gold, Stanley Cup, World Cup of Hockey and Hart trophy. Guy has a stacked resume
two great run with Dallas and Montreal. He was such a important piece last year and i love him so much. I would be happy for him if he won. He would be a Hall Of Famer 100%
Corwin where’d you get that sweatshirt? It’s awesome!
DEMKO IS SO UNDERATED
Potential way to solve the different eras rankings. Create a top 25-50 players per era. Then close the door on it.
Wish they would do an nhl top 100 players of the league like the nfl network does every year
Why is this not on the podcast feed, and 9hr reaction
McDavid is definitely a "lock" assuming his career continues. I don't know if his resume, were he to retire today, gets him in. It's just that we can see, even if he were to start declining (which isn't happening for at least a few more years, barring injury), he's almost a lock to hit 250 goals, 500 assists next year. Pretty safe bet he hits 1000 points within 5 years. Add in the awards, and even if he never sniffs a Cup, that's getting hm in on the first vote.
Matthews is likely in the convo for top American player of all time (easily in the top-5 American forwards). However, he's never had a period in his career where you'd say he was THE best player in the league. He probably needs to hit 500 goals and/or win a Cup or 2 to lock it in. Maybe not as much of a lock as McDavid, but still someone who is like a 90% lock already.
I think at this point, with over a decade left in their careers, the entire conversation is a bit premature.... also, I'd argue right now, for this second half of the season at least, Matthews has been THE best player in the league.
Based on these past 3 seasons, if Matthews is decently healthy throughout his career he will slaughter 500 goals.
@@KS-xk2so I completely agree that Matthews will have the numbers. I'm just responding to the claim that McDavid could retire today and get in, which I'm not quite sure is true. With Matthews, his only question mark is staying healthy long enough to put up the numbers he's capable of, but, as an American, I'm 100% rooting for him, even if I don't particularly care for the Leafs. But, I very much agree that these convos are premature, since both are easily gonna have the numbers to get in, barring something horrible.
@@Jay-yr9oi McDavid could absolutely retire today and get in, he has more awards than many current HoFers/locks. Low totals would be ignored in favour of dominant per game metrics and awards. After 7 seasons in the league he has 4 Art Rosses, 2 Harts, and 3 Pearsons. He's been the most dominant player in the league since his 4th ever game, if he retired and didn't make it he would undoubtedly be the most egregious omission in all of athletic HoF history.
Watching this after mcdavid got 153 points n 64 tucks. Absolutely insane, I’m my opinion he’s definitely a lock
Gally wasn't complaining about Stützle drawing penalties, he was complaining about the fact that he lies on the ice as if he is hurt but then plays the next shift. Never said a word about diving either.
He was injured the next two games though. People compare hormones and a strong mindset and spirit with unsportsmanlike conduct. It shouldn't be like that
How'd Nashville and Saros do against the blues acouple of days ago
As someone who grew up up the street from Anaheim, I 100% think Getzlaf deserves to be in the HOF just because o how big of an impact he had growing the sport in that area, like when my brother was in elementary school Getz and Perry came and helped open a ball hockey court on the playground
Yooo DZ my man nice King Lewan jersey! Polska
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Will this goto the Podcast Rss Feed?
Can you do oldest team draft
Do a segment resorting the leadership of all the teams. New Associate captains and Captains. (No one gets the same letter, but they can get a different one)
This would of been a good topic in the 2000s. Im looking at you Montreal.
I don’t think it’s a coincidence that players have been diving more and refs have been god awful lately. I think solving the diving problem should make the ref’s jobs easier
Byfuglien is in the conversation for 6th best defensemen in Jets/Thrashers franchise history.
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Preach Jesse PREACH!!!
Im glad hockey isn't like the Nba where diving happens every 10 seconds and there's no foul for it
Cool podcast
There's too much diving in the NHL.
And there's too many liberties on ice in the NHL. Was better when you'd pay the price immediately, if you took too many liberties.
that Polish jersey 😍😍
Where's the time stamp for Jesse's horse?
Clark Gillies is in the Hall of Fame. I think Getzlaf should be in the Hall of Fame.
Do they have a channel for there beer league games lol?
🖐🏻. Lady and Gentleman!!!
at 18:06 Jessie says he's never talked trash about the wild but like 2 years ago he called them "the most mediocre franchise" lol
what there really is to much crap after a clean hard hockey hit a clean hit is a clean hit get up and try and get some back with a clean hit but if a dirty hit the old days he had to deal with the tough guy they should never of moved away from this
You can't truly compare players from different eras, you know that, right? A list of the best 100 players will always be flawed. Sure, players now workout much harder, are in better shape, but they also have much better equipment and training!
How do you think Bobby Orr would do growing up in this era? I mean, we'll never really know...
Yes, to Tony Karlsson's comment in the chat...what about a player's all around game (defense and offense). At one point, I certainly would rather have had Toews than Malkin as my top centre. He was Canada's best player in the 2010 Olympics and a huge reason for the Black Hawks success (Stanley Cups).
Maybe they could do a top 100 players of each decade? (that would make more sense) Even if they did a top 70 forwards and top 30 defensemen.
At one point maybe! But by the end, their careers don't compare at all in hindsight. Malkin only played 26 more games than Toews yet he had almost 400 more points.
Don’t have to watch this video to say yes there is. Is like watching a soccer match
Wheres the pod?!?
The more money ... the more diving... that’s why soccer has so much diving... SO much more money on the line
Honestly, I prefer players getting a penalty for embelishment, rather than getting a fine after the game. Given their salaries, 2-min penalty is much bigger punishment than $5,000 fine.
This years 1st round exit will still be funny.
Comparing Gallagher and Stutzle’s penalties drawn isn’t apples to apples. There’s more than one way to draw a penalty. Gallagher draws most of his penalties by digging in hard and getting mangled on a regular basis. And because of his reputation, actually misses out on many, many calls that would be called. Not the same thing as someone whips there head back to sell a ghost high stick, or flops around on the ice etc.
This video could be 1word. Yes
It is Friday
as a ducks fan I would love to see getzlaf get into the hall of fame but I get why people would not see him as a Hall of famer
Not a Ducks fan but he is totally a hall of famer
@@andreasodell I think so as well
Guys I watched my blues struggle to climb the playoff hill and nothing took that group to think they can do it more than beating that Chicago team round 1. Beating Boston would be a MASSIVE deal for Toronto to learn how to be winners and break the curse
Podcasts with no timestamps should be legally condemnable
If we were to some how have a way to put all the GOATS together and simulate the games I would pick Big Buff as a 4rd pair D man
There is no player in NHL history as strong as him and he would simply throw guys like Peter Forsberg into the boards
He literally blocked 3 other full grown men from running into his own goalie and proceeded to take them all into the board for a 4 man collision
He could have killed Mark Stone BUT. HE. LET. UP.
I aint saying he is the 6th best D man of all time, but put prime Chara and Big Buff on a line together and they win 10 cups just from putting the other team into the stands every shift
I don’t think comparing post prime forsberg with rookie buff is the same thing. Foppa used to take guys like buff and embarrass them.
I am comparing prime to prime if you actually read the comment with some nuance
Why the fuck would I compare a rookie buff to a retired forseberg? Buff didnt play D until the end of his career anyway
I know this is 8 months old, but my goodness Tristan Jarry is like oragami in the playoffs. Dude plays good in regular season, then tanks like payton manning. Pens need to get rid of him or theyll never have a stanley cup.
If Iggy is a Hall Of Famer, how is Getzlaf not? He does have 2 Richard trophies, no cup though.
Brad Marchand gets suspended 10 games whenever someone falls down
Dont ever remove Jesse
Surprise Jessie hating on the wild
No way people like Jesse
It’s funny that they hate on the Oilers so much when they have 9 straight home game wins, and have won 6 in a row. They’re probably one of the hottest teams in the league right now, and they’re 2nd in the pacific. What’s the hate for?
Hottest team gotta go to florida
Who's the Polish one!?!?
Stützle was on the power play because 1 second after an injury it hurts. 1 minute after adrenaline is pumping and distracts you from pain. 1 day after your injury is swelled up and you can’t play. Simple. Stützle didn’t dive on the knee play, he was hurt. Sure he might exaggerate things to ensure a call 1/5 times, didn’t happen on the knee play.
Praying that Stutzle's injury is just a charlie horse. He knew it was bad during the game but could play, woke up with the next day with a bruise the size of Gallagher's ego on his knee and couldn't play.
Everyone sleeps on the wild in the playoffs😒
I respect the bald
Jesse has trashed the wild since he’s appeared on this channel.
aha.. mhm.. yes. and players have gotten good at it. sad state of affairs.
Horses in the chat
gotta retire the buffalo cap
I'm honestly still bitter that Jumbo Joe was left off the list of top 100 players. I know he doesn't have any cups (I'm cheering for Florida this year so he can get one) but he was one of, if not the, best playmakers of his generation. If you look at the people he played with (during his prime, I'm not comparing to his 42 year old season) and how they performed before/after playing with him versus how they performed while playing with him, it's very clear that he played a huge role in their success. I know there's extenuating circumstances (double sports hernia surgery that went poorly), but a guy like Cheechoo winning the Rocket Richard would never have happened if Jumbo hadn't come to San Jose.
Horse in the chat
Colorado getting bounced first round would be peak comedy
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Stutzle is actually injured Gallagher is a clown but I will admit Stutzle does dive on occasion but so does Gallagher so I dont know why he was complaining
Lol yeah no… whether Gallagher was right or wrong about his post game comments, there’s a reason Stutzle has a league wide reputation as someone who embellishes often, Gallagher does not.
Thanks for the dub Preds fan here
@@DarkHex2576 he doesnt though and also hes injured how can you dive if your injured he played through it against the Habs. I've seen Gallagher flop all the time and he did it earlier this year against Ottawa hes a joke. Stutzle didnt dive in the Habs game Habs are just shit and Gallagher just needs excuses for when hes in the AHL next year
@@pablofranko1700 your lucky we didnt have our full roster but it was a good game deserved win for you guys
@@eliaminator2313 u think he will be in the AHL lmao he’s better then almost your whole team
The only difference is that Gallagher doesn’t stay down on the ice. He may sell a call but he gets up
I want to see Stutzle fight Gallagher bur I'm not sure Gallagher knows how to take his gloves off he prefers to grab them while they arent looking
Brendan Gallagher is a huge diver himself… does he not remember the first like half of his own career?
@@ewCum ya ik he still dives not as much but pretty pathetic he goes after a 19 year old that hasnt fully developed physically to make himself feel good about himself
@@eliaminator2313 imo in the culture of hockey, it important to not dives. This is not good for his reputation in a game where people played with injuries during the majority of the playoffs. People who’s hating on soccer are those guys who dosent like the diving on soccer. But i mean his diving make his team score. That a great strategy ngl but not good for his reputation.
@@bgduhood6953 Ya I agree I just dont think he dives that much I also think his size doesnt help he needs to grow into his body
I suspect Stutzle is learning to handlew himself. These diving argument is pure histrionics from lesser athletes
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Getzlaf is not even close to the Hall of Fame. Less then 300 career goals, only ever scored more then 30 goals once. Not a point per game player. No individual awards. 1 time NHL all star.
Jeremy Roenick has over 500 goals, over 1200 points. 9 time NHL all star and he isn’t in the Hall. No way Getzlaf gets in the Hall if Roenick isn’t in.
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Kraken not taking Price and Tarasenko will always make me look at them as the stupid little brother
Tbh its good they didn't take price tho
Hockey is becoming more like soccer, more diving and complaining about hits. It's getting sad seeing hockey going in this direction.
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If it wasn't for his international success, Getzlaf would have no shot at the hall whatsoever, since international play is taken into consideration (which I don't like) he will get in for sure.
Also Don't flame Tim Stapleton, he is a Chiclets legend!
Calling embellishment in the arena is a good idea because the "embarrassment" of being called for embellishment in the sort of honest tough guy culture of hockey is a deterrent on its own.
It's taken in account because it is the Hockey Hall of Fame and not the NHL Hall of Fame. Without including international play, players like Vladislav Tretiak who was never able to play in the NHL due to the Cold War would have never had a shot. Also, it gets very annoying when players like Daniel Alfredsson has to sit and wait because he never had a Cup even though he had international success, over a 1000 games and was the first Swedish Captain to take his team to the Finals while it feels like almost every 80s Oiler gets in due to being a part of that dynasty. I think the Cup gets taken way too much into account.
@@Wexter0083 I know that my friend, I just don't think it's fair. Because the IIHF already exists so...
Vegas sneeks in on the final wild card spot and upsets Colorado
Too much diving. Too many young soft “superstars” ….*ducks*
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Stuetzle is a diving machine. Gallagher chose a bad play to speak out about but yea that guy has been in the league for only a few years and already has embellishment montages.
yeah the opposition spews their particular bs but it's just a load of we can't stop him so ...................................