You almost lost a subscriber. I love your content but why would you take a sponsorship deal from a Chinese spyware company? I don't mind sponsorship as they pay the bills but please actually look into the types of sponsorships you take. You're really okay with advertising this spyware to your audience for a few bucks? Please don't be a sellout.
@@Voltychu The evidence for this Norwegian-based company being Chinese spyware is shaky at best. Spend less time throwing around conspiracy theories and more time climbing out of the rabbit hole you fell down.
I feel like there are a lot of aspects of X and Y that go unnoticed and unappreciated. The way you can work jobs at hotels in Lumiose, and use berries to create different drinks in another store in the city are two really cool mechanics I never see talked about.
To me, it’s because people accentuate their attention more on the bad, and ignore all the good. I get sick of that fast, and it makes me think that I should never have gotten into Pokémon. But screw those people! I like Pokémon, and I am proud to like Pokémon! And I won’t take “quit” for an answer!! Sorry. Bad memories.
i used to be a big x and y hater, never really liked it and heavily blamed it for the downfall in quality for pokemon, but after playing all of the series in a row just for fun, I noticed all this detail's and aspects that I never noticed as a child, it's definitely the start of the hand holding and over leveling, but it's far from the worst generation, there's a lot of heart and novel ideas here, I'm a x and y enjoyer now
The best part about the older Pokemon games are the physical guide books that you can buy for them. I bought one for x and y and that's how I was able to figure out the Barry mechanic even before the online documentation
You're so right. ORAS had the same systems running in the background for he most part and it really adds another dimension to all the things you can do that aren't battling, and it was it's own gameplay loop that took more of an animal crossing type of mentality. Secret Bases, gatherinng berries, and Shiny fishing, horde battling for EV's, all were a solid pass-times to keep me playing all day long.
Only gripe: Battle Mason is a miss, because the newest Battle Frontier is Gen IV - that is, no 3D Pokemon game has it unfortunatedly. So, ORAS was the remake of Gen III, you know, the generation premiered the Battle Frontier! .. sorry for the rant hahaha
I spent A LOT of time with Y. Definitely my favorite berry farming system. And a nice stretch of road outside to hatch eggs from the Day Care. AND the Battle Chateau was on that road.
Likewise I caught onto it early! Especially how using certain moves during battle around a berry tree in a specific route resulted in a bounty at the end of the encounter. It was very nice air cutter surf etc I really missed the mechanic in sun an moon
Kalos really is the most screwed over region... It has so many cool concepts and mechanics that just never get addressed ever again, and everyone forgets about it. Its one of my favorite regions. I'm really hoping Legends: Z-A does Kalos the justice it deserves.
the sad thing is, that I don’t really have hope for new games because of Sword and Shield, Scarlett and Violet and the remake of gen4. These games ruined many things for me. I hope the games get better in the future with longer development times
@@DH-iv1utgamefreak has no incentive to improve since more investment wont result in more sales. People that would buy pokemon still buy it regardless of quality
That’s the tragedy, wasting good ideas in a bad game. XY does not deserve them. And it’s already been confirmed by NoA that ZA won’t be set in Kaols, just Lumose City.
@@DH-iv1ut I feel optimistic about Legends: Z-A given how fun Legends: Arceus was. Not only that, but it's the same team that did SwSh's DLC, widely considered the best parts of SwSh. Combine that with Arceus selling at BDSP levels when it was expected to do Mystery Dungeon numbers, and the higher-ups would be idiots to not give Z-A more attention.
One thing they could have done that would have given players a little more incentive to engage with this mechanic is go a little more in-depth with the pokemon who raid your plants. Imagine if starting at tier 2 berries you had a small chance for a more desirable bug pokemon like Larvesta or Scyther. A chance that would increase at tier 3, which would also start to introduce hidden abilities to all the pokemon in the pool. A player might not feel incentivized to engage with the berry growing mechanic if the best they can hope to get out of it are some niche berries and a Volbeat. But how might they act if they knew that interacting with and understanding the mechanic was their path to getting a Moxie Heracross? I think that would capture some attention.
I think the design choice to have set encounter based on berry color was a step up from the likes of Sinnoh's honey trees. Tho, they could have given each color a common & rare encounter, with the rare encounter becoming more likely with higher tier berries, like you suggested. Perhaps there could have been special "infested" berry bushes that had a horde encounter? The horde could include the regular Pokémon along with a rare Pokémon, like there could be a Larvesta among a horde of Spewpa. Horde encounters were already a good way to find shinies & hidden abilities.
in my most recent playthrough of X i only planted berries at first to get a nuzlocke encounter from the trees and got a mutation without knowing it was possible. after that i got obsessed and made it a side mission to get every single berry and it was so much fun
I didn't have a 3DS until 2018, and whenever I played my friend's copy of Y, I only ever messed with Pokemon Amie and that's it. The idea of a Pokemon game having this in-depth of a mechanic that feels less like a minigame and more like an entire side game. This is CRAZY cool. I really should replay this game.
X and Y had so many small things to do on the side. I've often heard other games in the series praised for similar reasons, but I was surprised at how I'd never heard praise for Kalos when it has such great side context.
@@glamrockchica8631 No it doesn't, it's the Sonic 06 of the pokemon franchise. Before that game, every pokemon game was amazing and the franchise was highly regarded. I will never forgive it and its stupid fans for killing this franchise.
@@c0mpu73rguy shut the hell up please people like you are what i hate about this fandom you are an ungrateful little ---- you refuse to admit it you are bratty as hell its been 11 years move on already
Because not many people engaged that deeply with the Berry farming mechanic, I was able to always trade the Pokémon to random people around the world with a rare Berry. So even if they don't love my 4 IV Chinchou, they might appreciate the Liechi Berry I sent with it.
Its so unique and barely anyone remembers the fact that you could hybrid berries into existance. I didnt know it existed until I saw a guide. Using certain moves on certain terrains to obtain rare items is such an amazing feature too. For me, Gen 6 were the best gen during its time.
In terms of berries sure but I guess but in terms of content it’s easily a toss up between black2 an white2 an heartgold soulsilver followed by emerald for me. Those were complete games was a story an things to do after. They don’t make em like that no more. Gen 6 was cool they had the soaring mechanic in omega ruby that was cool.
Just after gen 5? No the f it wasn’t. It was a terrible game back then and it’s still a terrible game now (even more so since it’s the one I blame for Dexit, pokemon should never have gone 3d).
this was my favorite feature of XY as a kid and im really happy to see you covering it! it sucks how game greak outright refuses to bring back new mechanics like these, I'd love to see it make a return
I loved berry farming in XY, and at the time I assumed that was going to be a mechanic in every subsequent game... :c XY had a lot of things i thought would become staples in future generations that just got completely abandoned, it's very sad
I’ve wanted someone to talk about this for a while now. I liked the hybrid berry mechanics because you could get the friendship EV reducing berries so easily
2:31 "With the move to the 3DS, there seemed to be a new focus for the 'everything else' you could do in a world like this." Unfortunately, the life span of this focus was equal to the lifespan of the 3DS, and was forgotten upon moving to the Switch.
This game had so many extra features, and could have been a fabulously complete Pokemon experience. No game deserves a second visit more than Kalos. 2025 can't come soon enough.
I never even knew this feature was so complex! I don’t think I ever actually utilized it on my playthrough of the Gen 6 games. Now I wanna play X and Y just so I can try this out! I love how much your content has opened my eyes to how much the games have to offer that I didn’t know the full extent of or just was unaware of in its entirety!
I dont usually comment, but I loved this feature of X and Y. I was going through a bad bout of depression and invested a lot of time into this game to do and hunt for all the berries to get every mutation. X and Y were also my favorite games for breeding and shiny hunting. I really hope the new Legends game does Kalos justice. Great video Droomish.
I always just assumed I would either find the rest of the berries playing the game or simply transfer the missing ones up from previous gens. I did engage in the Berry Farm, but only for it's basic, berry growing purposes. Coming from previous gens where you're basically forced to plant berries all over the region, one centralized berry growing location is all I'd ever ask for. Lol.
Just so you know, transferring berries from previous gens to Gen 6 is not possible. As of Gen 5 Pokemon were no longer allowed to hold items while being transferred. The only other way to get the rarer berries in Gen 6 is in ORAS's Super Secret Bases, from Secret Pals who have the "Gather Berries" skill.
Ah, I guess I forgot about that. I wasn't into competitive at that time, so ultimately, having all the berries wasn't of the greatest concern to me. Lol.
I'd love to have a Pokemon game that's a combination berry farming sim and Nintendogs style Pokemon raising sim, with the Pokemon you raise being able to help you around your farm.
The overall features like these berry mechanics as well as others were so well done in X&Y. I didn't play the games for the story this time. Instead it was a new era to see all Pokémon in 3D, explore a beautiful region based on my neighbor country (greetings from Germany 👋🏻) and therefore almost felt like home. And there's no denial that X&Y gave us many content (already between the 1st and 2nd gym alone), alongside a great soundtrack, the PSS and its mini-games, the biggest city out of all regions so far and various battle facilities like the castle on Route 7. Alongside Hoenn, Unova and Alola, Kalos is the region that I enjoy playing in the most because you can do so much stuff within the first 2-3 hours into the game. ❤
I remember getting really into berry farming in XY. I never got deep into the mechanics of mutations or mulch or juice, but XY were the only games I’ve ever bothered to plant berries and check on them every single day I played, and I had fun just randomly making berry mutations.
Outside of competitive, I’ve never liked anything berry related. If I had known my favorite region had such an in depth berry system, then my attitude to them would’ve changed years ago. Guess I now know what I’m doing after work.
I’m replaying X at the moment and it is just so much more polished than the more recent games. As for the berries, I wish X and Y had had contests. It would have fit in well with the region and given more uses to the berry farm.
X and Y were really underappreciated games! They were easily dismissed as 'too easy' and 'boring' but they introduced so many cool mechanics and are to this day one of my favorite games in the series! They were the first step in making the more technical, competitive parts of the series user-friendly, and I replayed them so, SO much just to mess around with Pokemon team set ups. I remember the berry growing area and the mulch bin, but I didn't realize there was a hybridization mechanic! Either I never got a hybrid as a kid or I've just forgotten. XD I clearly forgot about there being Pokemon encounters in the berries, since I did enough berry farming that I'm sure I would have seen some. I was also into shiny chaining so I would think I'd have used that to shiny hunt.
I became a berry farmer in Y because my “the end of the game is nigh” sense was tingling so I did that and a bunch of things in order to prolong what I found to be an unexpectedly short game. Was interesting for making supplemental income but it wish there were more mutation combos. Also, Arthur imagine spot transition music? I wasn’t aware we were still in the 90s.
@@franslair2199 After replaying some of the previous games like Platinum and Soul Silver, just turn off exp share and it's the same level of difficulty. Pokemon was never really that hard to begin with.
@@ewwitscullen9132 Why do pokemon x/y fans have the need to shit on every other game in the series to bring it it down to that level? It reeks of desperation.
@@gavinyeet5821 Even turning off exp share (and obviously you're intended to have it on, considering later games just force it on you) doesn't change the fact that you will significantly outlevel the game and smash through it due to your exclusive access to mega evolution and all important trainers having at most four pokemon to your six.
I feel like a pokemon farming game might be really fun. Maybe a sort of stardew valley meets pokemon sort of deal-grow berry crops, raise pokemon that produce food or are eddible or produce something like wool, silk or fertilizer, occasionally head into the local cave to harvest some zubat guano for fertilizer, crossbreed berries, etc. Probably something lightweight enough for a mobile game. Could even select different farm locations for different sorts of livestock pokemon, like a prarie farm for normal types like tauros and miltank, a farm in a location like falarbor for fire types like blaziken, a terrace farm with rice paddies you can breed fish pokemon inside, etc. Maybe an artificial cave for mushroom like grass types.
I used to play a lot of Harvest Moon when i was younger along side Pokemon Ruby and aways wounder why they never made a Pokemon Farming game?there is a lot of potential here....
I loved this mechanic so much that I wound up breeding way more berries than I could possibly ever need. Whenever I sent out a Pokemon on Wonder Trade or the GTS, I would let it hold one of the rarer berries as a little bonus gift for my trading partners.
Someone else who agrees XY has the best berry mechanics! From Ruby, my very first Pokemon game, I've always made the most out of the berry-growing mechanics. Well, at least I tried - I didn't really learn the inner workings of Hoenn's and Sinnoh's until well after the fact (and BDSP's doesn't seem to work exactly like DPP's? No Mulch? But it's not like ORAS's either so where did they pull it from? Did they really stealth-reprogram this feature in particular????), but for Kalos, I learned all about the hybrids. The weeding. The finding Pokemon. I enjoyed coming back to my farm whenever I played and seeing what I could do. I wish there was some in-game way to figure out the hybrids, though. Like unless you just trial-and-error plant every berry next to every other berry, there's no way you'll find them all. Everything else, though. So much more immersive while also not really being a burden to the player.
XY are my favourite games and I've been playing since Gen 1 All the silly little things charmed me so much. Pokémon Amie Juice making Jobs at Lumiose The skates The field objects in battles I could go on all day But I just searched up the combos and did it like that lmao
I completely forgot about this mechanic until you made this video, but I remember at the time being soooo deeply into it that I got every rare berry! I got a tons of replay value out of XY because of this, the Battle Chateau, Friend Safari, plus all the changes to breeding and battling including Pokeball inheritance and Super Training. All the new features added only to XY is really under appreciated now that I think about it. Anyway, thanks for making this video!
Man your videos are fucking fire, you’re a true fan, and you truly understand the core values and principles of Pokémon, the true value the series holds. Thank you for existing homie ❤
The only reason I didn't plant berries more in the older Pokemon games was all the unnecessary text. Do I really need to know that the soil is "loamy"?
Between dex completion, competitive, breeding, undella town's ruins, xy berries, and more, im beginning to think I need a notebook specifically for pokemon lol
I forgot how involved this system was! I dozens or hundreds of every single berry. Loved the feeling of accomplishment I got every time I got a new berry mutation.
I didn't even know this was a thing. Granted, I haven't played XY in forever, but still. It's interesting to see how many obscure mechanics they implemented in this game.
YES!!!! Twelve year old me spent SO MUCH TIME just trying to get a ton of all the types of berries. I like never used them, but it was so much fun to garden!!!
I don't understand why Game Freak has this obsession with packing every Pokemon game with needlessly-deep side mechanics disguised as shallow distractions, but I have to respect them for it.
People hate on x and y a lot. while it does have some problems mainly being the lack of difficulty, it has so many small details that give you so much to do during and after your playthrough. When I started my save file a few months ago, I only wanted to play it so I could get the context of pokemon legends ZA before if came out. So I was speeding through the game but missing out on these hidden little details. Ds games in general really honed the features that didn’t serve a purpose but were really fun.
wow i never even knew about this but im so grateful that you talked about it! it's always a shame when the barrier to entry of many pokemon features is high without the internet
OMG i remember being like 16 and grinding out the berries and picking all the weeds like crazy in XY when it came out, we didnt know the full mechanics yet so we were just trying Our Best. i remember popping OFF when i got my first berry mutation lol. i grinded berries like crazy in ORAS too...what was i cooking. no idea why i was obsessed with berries in gen 6
You definitely got me with that video. You usually do with your kind of videos, but that one was amazing. I spent hours upon hours on this Berry Field. I got every single berry with the help of Bulbapedia, and like you, searched everything else I could do with them; the Perilous Soup, because I needed to train a lot of Pokémons for my local scene and to beat every sister from the Battle Maison (which I did!); created every Mulch... It was an amazing side journey. I really spent countless days on Kalos. I think that's why my X game is the only Pokémon game that the clock counted up to 999:59... I did every single thing in this game! Loved the music, the Pokémons (despite being a few new ones), completed the Poké Dex for the first time in my life (I play since gen 1), but interestingly, the only thing that still today I never touched upon was the dressing mechanic. XD All my friends were talking about the clothes and I think I was the only one that chose the boy and stayed with the same clothes from the start of the game until today... LOL But I did everything I wanted. Got every trophy in the Maison, got every Berry, every Mulch, every Mega Stone, completed the Dex, got a lot of the shinies with the Friend Safari, Chain Fishing and specially Masuda Method (got all 3 Hoenn Starters for ORAS ^^), got some of the best Friend Safari available, and to finish it all, one friend of mine got those hacks and unlocked the 3 Pokés that are locked in the game -- Volcanion, Hoopa and Marshadow (with that, my game file is with 721 Dex registered and 999:59 with the game started the day the game came out in my region). Thank you for making me remember all this before going to bed today, and sorry for the long text. It was a long journey in this amazing region. Tomorrow is another day of work. :)
Wow... what a great video! This was extra special for me as I'm trying to comb through X to experience everything I skipped as a noob when the games first released. The official print guide can't properly cover everything, so thorough videos like these are seriously important. That said, thanks for the seriously high-quality presentation here, we appreciate you!
Tbh i wish there’d be a stardew valley type of pokemon game, like imagine farming berries, raising/interacting pokemon rather than just focusing on battling
In my main X version I spent many hours doing Berry Gardens and eventually worked out mutations and where some of the rarer berries. I think there was a guy in the 2nd gym town had a rock resist Berry (I think) and was overjoyed even if I didn't have much use for it lol I was kinda sad when it didn't come back in alola
i remember trying to get all the berries one time when i was revisiting x! i actually had so much fun with the berries than it felt sad that i could never get that many berries again when i played platinum after that
Hunting for wild berries and farming are actually why I never finished X&Y - I just got so badly sidetracked that... yeah. I only ever went so far as to unlock the first area with the last-available color of berry trees in battle and just... farmed forever. (With a daily run of the Hotel Richissime jobs for clothes-shopping money on the side.)
tamagotchi mention has me booting up X&Y LOL. i always skipped over this area in the few playthroughs of gen 6 that i’d done. i loved berries in gens 3&4 so i have no idea why i never bothered in gen 6! this is so neat!
I had forgotten about this entire feature, but now I'm getting flashbacks to growing berries back in 2013. I definitely remember picking weeds from an oran berry tree
The problem with all of these things really is the lack of explanation in-game. Nowadays it seems crazy cus you’d just look online for guides, but as a kid with no or limited access to the internet depending on the game, them making these mechanics opaque just to sell their official guidebooks was messed up on a capitalism level and a player’s enjoyability level. Don’t get me wrong, I think this got the closest they would ever bother with getting ever again (randomly putting trees next to each other and seeing what spawned *was* fun), but by this point most people had been burned with too much inexplicable bs to want to put literal days into discovering whether this was bs too or not. Also putting it in an out-of-the-way missable location? Very weird choice.
Wish XY had this kind of depth in literally any other part of the game. Like imagine instead of farming they invested in something like idk, a fucking postgame? More battle facilities? Crazy to ask for, I know.
I did all of the berry mutations I could. Some of the berries were locked behind using a specific move like air cutter while you can see a tree in the wild. All of the moves were too specific or bad, so I never did any of the in battle gathering until a second playthrough.
Considering how little I remember about this feature, I think that I might have figured "Oh, it's just a big spot to plant berries" and completely ignored it since I don't use berries a whole lot anyway.
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I wish there was a mark for pokemon found in the berry trees
You almost lost a subscriber. I love your content but why would you take a sponsorship deal from a Chinese spyware company? I don't mind sponsorship as they pay the bills but please actually look into the types of sponsorships you take. You're really okay with advertising this spyware to your audience for a few bucks? Please don't be a sellout.
@@Voltychu Opera's a spy company?
@@Voltychu The evidence for this Norwegian-based company being Chinese spyware is shaky at best. Spend less time throwing around conspiracy theories and more time climbing out of the rabbit hole you fell down.
I feel like there are a lot of aspects of X and Y that go unnoticed and unappreciated. The way you can work jobs at hotels in Lumiose, and use berries to create different drinks in another store in the city are two really cool mechanics I never see talked about.
People love to give XY shit for being too easy and the story not making sense like that isn’t pretty much every Pokémon game once you’re an adult
To me, it’s because people accentuate their attention more on the bad, and ignore all the good. I get sick of that fast, and it makes me think that I should never have gotten into Pokémon. But screw those people! I like Pokémon, and I am proud to like Pokémon! And I won’t take “quit” for an answer!!
Sorry. Bad memories.
i used to be a big x and y hater, never really liked it and heavily blamed it for the downfall in quality for pokemon, but after playing all of the series in a row just for fun, I noticed all this detail's and aspects that I never noticed as a child, it's definitely the start of the hand holding and over leveling, but it's far from the worst generation, there's a lot of heart and novel ideas here, I'm a x and y enjoyer now
@@Connowot387 I know why people do that.
It gets attention and attention = money
@@NEET_201 at least you could still turn the exp share off. Bet we all wish we could have that back huh.
The best part about the older Pokemon games are the physical guide books that you can buy for them. I bought one for x and y and that's how I was able to figure out the Barry mechanic even before the online documentation
Not even for older games. Sun and moon even has a guide book
@@MustacheDLuffy crazy to think that those came out 8 years ago. Time sure flies.
@@Missingno0479 kinda funny it took them this long not to do it
reading "older Pokemon games" and "x and y" in the same comment sent me a little bit jfc
@@peebumbus same wtf
You're so right. ORAS had the same systems running in the background for he most part and it really adds another dimension to all the things you can do that aren't battling, and it was it's own gameplay loop that took more of an animal crossing type of mentality.
Secret Bases, gatherinng berries, and Shiny fishing, horde battling for EV's, all were a solid pass-times to keep me playing all day long.
Only gripe: Battle Mason is a miss, because the newest Battle Frontier is Gen IV - that is, no 3D Pokemon game has it unfortunatedly.
So, ORAS was the remake of Gen III, you know, the generation premiered the Battle Frontier!
.. sorry for the rant hahaha
I spent A LOT of time with Y. Definitely my favorite berry farming system. And a nice stretch of road outside to hatch eggs from the Day Care. AND the Battle Chateau was on that road.
Likewise I caught onto it early! Especially how using certain moves during battle around a berry tree in a specific route resulted in a bounty at the end of the encounter. It was very nice air cutter surf etc I really missed the mechanic in sun an moon
That area had most of my play time in x and y 😂
Kalos really is the most screwed over region... It has so many cool concepts and mechanics that just never get addressed ever again, and everyone forgets about it. Its one of my favorite regions. I'm really hoping Legends: Z-A does Kalos the justice it deserves.
the sad thing is, that I don’t really have hope for new games because of Sword and Shield, Scarlett and Violet and the remake of gen4. These games ruined many things for me. I hope the games get better in the future with longer development times
@@DH-iv1utgamefreak has no incentive to improve since more investment wont result in more sales. People that would buy pokemon still buy it regardless of quality
@@DH-iv1ut I'm hopeful because of the time they spend for this new game. I feel like they heard us and decided to do something about it
That’s the tragedy, wasting good ideas in a bad game. XY does not deserve them.
And it’s already been confirmed by NoA that ZA won’t be set in Kaols, just Lumose City.
@@DH-iv1ut I feel optimistic about Legends: Z-A given how fun Legends: Arceus was. Not only that, but it's the same team that did SwSh's DLC, widely considered the best parts of SwSh. Combine that with Arceus selling at BDSP levels when it was expected to do Mystery Dungeon numbers, and the higher-ups would be idiots to not give Z-A more attention.
One thing they could have done that would have given players a little more incentive to engage with this mechanic is go a little more in-depth with the pokemon who raid your plants.
Imagine if starting at tier 2 berries you had a small chance for a more desirable bug pokemon like Larvesta or Scyther. A chance that would increase at tier 3, which would also start to introduce hidden abilities to all the pokemon in the pool.
A player might not feel incentivized to engage with the berry growing mechanic if the best they can hope to get out of it are some niche berries and a Volbeat. But how might they act if they knew that interacting with and understanding the mechanic was their path to getting a Moxie Heracross? I think that would capture some attention.
I think the design choice to have set encounter based on berry color was a step up from the likes of Sinnoh's honey trees. Tho, they could have given each color a common & rare encounter, with the rare encounter becoming more likely with higher tier berries, like you suggested.
Perhaps there could have been special "infested" berry bushes that had a horde encounter? The horde could include the regular Pokémon along with a rare Pokémon, like there could be a Larvesta among a horde of Spewpa. Horde encounters were already a good way to find shinies & hidden abilities.
Or it could be based on a harder to make mulch
I could see bugs being in the trees and rodents and bird Pokémon eating the berries in the trees
in my most recent playthrough of X i only planted berries at first to get a nuzlocke encounter from the trees and got a mutation without knowing it was possible. after that i got obsessed and made it a side mission to get every single berry and it was so much fun
I’m gonna need about a dozen more videos on all of XY’s underappreciated yet extremely cool features
Perfect for my third play through of Gen 6, X for the first time after twice on Y
big factual statement 💯
I didn't have a 3DS until 2018, and whenever I played my friend's copy of Y, I only ever messed with Pokemon Amie and that's it.
The idea of a Pokemon game having this in-depth of a mechanic that feels less like a minigame and more like an entire side game. This is CRAZY cool.
I really should replay this game.
X and Y had so many small things to do on the side. I've often heard other games in the series praised for similar reasons, but I was surprised at how I'd never heard praise for Kalos when it has such great side context.
Kalos doesn’t deserve to be praised.
Yes it does
@@glamrockchica8631 No it doesn't, it's the Sonic 06 of the pokemon franchise. Before that game, every pokemon game was amazing and the franchise was highly regarded. I will never forgive it and its stupid fans for killing this franchise.
@@c0mpu73rguy shut the hell up please people like you are what i hate about this fandom you are an ungrateful little ---- you refuse to admit it you are bratty as hell its been 11 years move on already
Finally! I never see people mention the berry farm in x and y.
I loved it! Finally talking about it!!
Finally!
Because not many people engaged that deeply with the Berry farming mechanic, I was able to always trade the Pokémon to random people around the world with a rare Berry.
So even if they don't love my 4 IV Chinchou, they might appreciate the Liechi Berry I sent with it.
Ah, the days when IVs mattered
Its so unique and barely anyone remembers the fact that you could hybrid berries into existance.
I didnt know it existed until I saw a guide.
Using certain moves on certain terrains to obtain rare items is such an amazing feature too.
For me, Gen 6 were the best gen during its time.
It would have been cool if the hybrid berries combined aspect of the parents
In terms of berries sure but I guess but in terms of content it’s easily a toss up between black2 an white2 an heartgold soulsilver followed by emerald for me. Those were complete games was a story an things to do after. They don’t make em like that no more. Gen 6 was cool they had the soaring mechanic in omega ruby that was cool.
Just after gen 5? No the f it wasn’t. It was a terrible game back then and it’s still a terrible game now (even more so since it’s the one I blame for Dexit, pokemon should never have gone 3d).
this was my favorite feature of XY as a kid and im really happy to see you covering it! it sucks how game greak outright refuses to bring back new mechanics like these, I'd love to see it make a return
Yup i was soooo irritated when I found out you could do this in sun and moon
I loved berry farming in XY, and at the time I assumed that was going to be a mechanic in every subsequent game... :c
XY had a lot of things i thought would become staples in future generations that just got completely abandoned, it's very sad
I’ve wanted someone to talk about this for a while now. I liked the hybrid berry mechanics because you could get the friendship EV reducing berries so easily
2:31 "With the move to the 3DS, there seemed to be a new focus for the 'everything else' you could do in a world like this." Unfortunately, the life span of this focus was equal to the lifespan of the 3DS, and was forgotten upon moving to the Switch.
I mean, the 3DS is far from dead. It's just that the life support is in the hands of the still-active community and not Nintendo.
hoping this farming mechanics is in Pokemon Legends Z-A! Arceus already had farming in the game, they have to take it to the next level like in XY!
Depends if the farmlands are in Lumose city or not.
@@c0mpu73rguy not that deep, it’s just a patch of land it can be anywhere
Where as the farming in Arceus? There's just the people in jubilife and that's it
This game had so many extra features, and could have been a fabulously complete Pokemon experience. No game deserves a second visit more than Kalos. 2025 can't come soon enough.
i am so distracted by the shuckle teapot in the juice shoppe, it's so cute
I really loved the Berry farming game. I didn't have a DS, so coming to the 3DS with Y and finding this was really fun and kept me back in pokemon.
I love that you make videos about stuff in Pokémon Games that is "side stuff" like Berry Farming, the bug contest and contests ❤❤
I never even knew this feature was so complex! I don’t think I ever actually utilized it on my playthrough of the Gen 6 games. Now I wanna play X and Y just so I can try this out! I love how much your content has opened my eyes to how much the games have to offer that I didn’t know the full extent of or just was unaware of in its entirety!
I dont usually comment, but I loved this feature of X and Y. I was going through a bad bout of depression and invested a lot of time into this game to do and hunt for all the berries to get every mutation. X and Y were also my favorite games for breeding and shiny hunting. I really hope the new Legends game does Kalos justice. Great video Droomish.
I always just assumed I would either find the rest of the berries playing the game or simply transfer the missing ones up from previous gens. I did engage in the Berry Farm, but only for it's basic, berry growing purposes. Coming from previous gens where you're basically forced to plant berries all over the region, one centralized berry growing location is all I'd ever ask for. Lol.
Just so you know, transferring berries from previous gens to Gen 6 is not possible. As of Gen 5 Pokemon were no longer allowed to hold items while being transferred. The only other way to get the rarer berries in Gen 6 is in ORAS's Super Secret Bases, from Secret Pals who have the "Gather Berries" skill.
Ah, I guess I forgot about that. I wasn't into competitive at that time, so ultimately, having all the berries wasn't of the greatest concern to me. Lol.
I'd love to have a Pokemon game that's a combination berry farming sim and Nintendogs style Pokemon raising sim, with the Pokemon you raise being able to help you around your farm.
The overall features like these berry mechanics as well as others were so well done in X&Y. I didn't play the games for the story this time. Instead it was a new era to see all Pokémon in 3D, explore a beautiful region based on my neighbor country (greetings from Germany 👋🏻) and therefore almost felt like home. And there's no denial that X&Y gave us many content (already between the 1st and 2nd gym alone), alongside a great soundtrack, the PSS and its mini-games, the biggest city out of all regions so far and various battle facilities like the castle on Route 7.
Alongside Hoenn, Unova and Alola, Kalos is the region that I enjoy playing in the most because you can do so much stuff within the first 2-3 hours into the game. ❤
I remember getting really into berry farming in XY. I never got deep into the mechanics of mutations or mulch or juice, but XY were the only games I’ve ever bothered to plant berries and check on them every single day I played, and I had fun just randomly making berry mutations.
Outside of competitive, I’ve never liked anything berry related. If I had known my favorite region had such an in depth berry system, then my attitude to them would’ve changed years ago. Guess I now know what I’m doing after work.
I’m replaying X at the moment and it is just so much more polished than the more recent games.
As for the berries, I wish X and Y had had contests. It would have fit in well with the region and given more uses to the berry farm.
X and Y were really underappreciated games! They were easily dismissed as 'too easy' and 'boring' but they introduced so many cool mechanics and are to this day one of my favorite games in the series! They were the first step in making the more technical, competitive parts of the series user-friendly, and I replayed them so, SO much just to mess around with Pokemon team set ups.
I remember the berry growing area and the mulch bin, but I didn't realize there was a hybridization mechanic! Either I never got a hybrid as a kid or I've just forgotten. XD I clearly forgot about there being Pokemon encounters in the berries, since I did enough berry farming that I'm sure I would have seen some. I was also into shiny chaining so I would think I'd have used that to shiny hunt.
I became a berry farmer in Y because my “the end of the game is nigh” sense was tingling so I did that and a bunch of things in order to prolong what I found to be an unexpectedly short game.
Was interesting for making supplemental income but it wish there were more mutation combos.
Also, Arthur imagine spot transition music? I wasn’t aware we were still in the 90s.
XY have always been shat on for the low hanging fruit, people never realize how much depth they have. I love XY.
Well, it's because the game is so trivially easy that there's no point in engaging with any of these mechanics.
@@franslair2199 every Pokémon game is easy if you have a high school education bro
@@franslair2199 After replaying some of the previous games like Platinum and Soul Silver, just turn off exp share and it's the same level of difficulty. Pokemon was never really that hard to begin with.
@@ewwitscullen9132 Why do pokemon x/y fans have the need to shit on every other game in the series to bring it it down to that level? It reeks of desperation.
@@gavinyeet5821 Even turning off exp share (and obviously you're intended to have it on, considering later games just force it on you) doesn't change the fact that you will significantly outlevel the game and smash through it due to your exclusive access to mega evolution and all important trainers having at most four pokemon to your six.
I feel like a pokemon farming game might be really fun. Maybe a sort of stardew valley meets pokemon sort of deal-grow berry crops, raise pokemon that produce food or are eddible or produce something like wool, silk or fertilizer, occasionally head into the local cave to harvest some zubat guano for fertilizer, crossbreed berries, etc. Probably something lightweight enough for a mobile game. Could even select different farm locations for different sorts of livestock pokemon, like a prarie farm for normal types like tauros and miltank, a farm in a location like falarbor for fire types like blaziken, a terrace farm with rice paddies you can breed fish pokemon inside, etc. Maybe an artificial cave for mushroom like grass types.
I'm not the only one who thinks this feature was underrated! X and Y's berry farming was on another level and I respect the hell out of it.
I think the 3DS era games are underrated
I only used this to grind leppa berries and I had no idea it was so complex. I always assumed it was your typical berry growing mechanic
I used to play a lot of Harvest Moon when i was younger along side Pokemon Ruby and aways wounder why they never made a Pokemon Farming game?there is a lot of potential here....
I loved this mechanic so much that I wound up breeding way more berries than I could possibly ever need. Whenever I sent out a Pokemon on Wonder Trade or the GTS, I would let it hold one of the rarer berries as a little bonus gift for my trading partners.
The camphrier town theme is forever in my heart because of these damn berries
Someone else who agrees XY has the best berry mechanics!
From Ruby, my very first Pokemon game, I've always made the most out of the berry-growing mechanics. Well, at least I tried - I didn't really learn the inner workings of Hoenn's and Sinnoh's until well after the fact (and BDSP's doesn't seem to work exactly like DPP's? No Mulch? But it's not like ORAS's either so where did they pull it from? Did they really stealth-reprogram this feature in particular????), but for Kalos, I learned all about the hybrids. The weeding. The finding Pokemon. I enjoyed coming back to my farm whenever I played and seeing what I could do.
I wish there was some in-game way to figure out the hybrids, though. Like unless you just trial-and-error plant every berry next to every other berry, there's no way you'll find them all.
Everything else, though. So much more immersive while also not really being a burden to the player.
The berry farm was the only thing I did in kalos when I was a kid. I kid you not, I didn’t even beat all the gym leaders. Just farmed
XY are my favourite games and I've been playing since Gen 1
All the silly little things charmed me so much. Pokémon Amie
Juice making
Jobs at Lumiose
The skates
The field objects in battles
I could go on all day
But I just searched up the combos and did it like that lmao
Man, I keep forgetting things about X & Y. Thank you for reminding me of this!
I completely forgot about this mechanic until you made this video, but I remember at the time being soooo deeply into it that I got every rare berry! I got a tons of replay value out of XY because of this, the Battle Chateau, Friend Safari, plus all the changes to breeding and battling including Pokeball inheritance and Super Training. All the new features added only to XY is really under appreciated now that I think about it.
Anyway, thanks for making this video!
I didn’t know this was an area in XY. If you’re required to go there, I definitely don’t remember it lol
Man your videos are fucking fire, you’re a true fan, and you truly understand the core values and principles of Pokémon, the true value the series holds. Thank you for existing homie ❤
yeah, i'm not as invested in the post-GBA games as the pre-ds ones, but i very much enjoy this part of X and Y.
The only reason I didn't plant berries more in the older Pokemon games was all the unnecessary text. Do I really need to know that the soil is "loamy"?
I do.
If you want to be a pro
Between dex completion, competitive, breeding, undella town's ruins, xy berries, and more, im beginning to think I need a notebook specifically for pokemon lol
I forgot how involved this system was! I dozens or hundreds of every single berry. Loved the feeling of accomplishment I got every time I got a new berry mutation.
The achievement of getting perilous soup is severely undercut by the stat resetting punching bag
When I was a kid I spent like 3 weeks getting 500 Oran berries because I thought that was funny
Droomish: "Who doesn't love field work?!"
Trout "Grandpa" Walker: _"That's too damn bayad!"_
I didn't even know this was a thing. Granted, I haven't played XY in forever, but still. It's interesting to see how many obscure mechanics they implemented in this game.
YES!!!! Twelve year old me spent SO MUCH TIME just trying to get a ton of all the types of berries. I like never used them, but it was so much fun to garden!!!
LEDYBA ON THE THUMBNAIL LET'S GOOOOOOO
If only oras had these berry fields. but then again, I'm glad oras stayed true to the original berry plots.
I had fun with it, and also basically never bought a healing item once I had the trees because the berries, the berries provided.
Wow, I've played through XY dozens of times and had no idea berry farming was like this
I used to spend SO long in X just taking care of my berries
I've been playing a lot of cobblemon recently and i had no idea that the berry breeding mechanic was actually inspired by Kalos!
I don't understand why Game Freak has this obsession with packing every Pokemon game with needlessly-deep side mechanics disguised as shallow distractions, but I have to respect them for it.
I think have side mechanics and minigames are important to rpgs
I love XY so much, we need a proper remake!
Leppa berries were as far as I ever grew berries. Can't purchase on the go PP recovery.
People hate on x and y a lot. while it does have some problems mainly being the lack of difficulty, it has so many small details that give you so much to do during and after your playthrough. When I started my save file a few months ago, I only wanted to play it so I could get the context of pokemon legends ZA before if came out. So I was speeding through the game but missing out on these hidden little details. Ds games in general really honed the features that didn’t serve a purpose but were really fun.
wow i never even knew about this but im so grateful that you talked about it! it's always a shame when the barrier to entry of many pokemon features is high without the internet
I enjoyed collecting berries in gen 3 and gen 6 took it to a new level but I mainly used the farm to sell berries at the mart.
OMG i remember being like 16 and grinding out the berries and picking all the weeds like crazy in XY when it came out, we didnt know the full mechanics yet so we were just trying Our Best. i remember popping OFF when i got my first berry mutation lol. i grinded berries like crazy in ORAS too...what was i cooking. no idea why i was obsessed with berries in gen 6
You definitely got me with that video. You usually do with your kind of videos, but that one was amazing. I spent hours upon hours on this Berry Field. I got every single berry with the help of Bulbapedia, and like you, searched everything else I could do with them; the Perilous Soup, because I needed to train a lot of Pokémons for my local scene and to beat every sister from the Battle Maison (which I did!); created every Mulch... It was an amazing side journey. I really spent countless days on Kalos. I think that's why my X game is the only Pokémon game that the clock counted up to 999:59... I did every single thing in this game! Loved the music, the Pokémons (despite being a few new ones), completed the Poké Dex for the first time in my life (I play since gen 1), but interestingly, the only thing that still today I never touched upon was the dressing mechanic. XD All my friends were talking about the clothes and I think I was the only one that chose the boy and stayed with the same clothes from the start of the game until today... LOL But I did everything I wanted. Got every trophy in the Maison, got every Berry, every Mulch, every Mega Stone, completed the Dex, got a lot of the shinies with the Friend Safari, Chain Fishing and specially Masuda Method (got all 3 Hoenn Starters for ORAS ^^), got some of the best Friend Safari available, and to finish it all, one friend of mine got those hacks and unlocked the 3 Pokés that are locked in the game -- Volcanion, Hoopa and Marshadow (with that, my game file is with 721 Dex registered and 999:59 with the game started the day the game came out in my region).
Thank you for making me remember all this before going to bed today, and sorry for the long text. It was a long journey in this amazing region. Tomorrow is another day of work. :)
I miss berry mechanics. Now in SV you just pick up random berries from the ground 😢
I got so engrossed in this stuff back in like 2015, it was crazy addictive
Wow... what a great video! This was extra special for me as I'm trying to comb through X to experience everything I skipped as a noob when the games first released. The official print guide can't properly cover everything, so thorough videos like these are seriously important. That said, thanks for the seriously high-quality presentation here, we appreciate you!
Tbh i wish there’d be a stardew valley type of pokemon game, like imagine farming berries, raising/interacting pokemon rather than just focusing on battling
In my main X version I spent many hours doing Berry Gardens and eventually worked out mutations and where some of the rarer berries. I think there was a guy in the 2nd gym town had a rock resist Berry (I think) and was overjoyed even if I didn't have much use for it lol
I was kinda sad when it didn't come back in alola
i remember trying to get all the berries one time when i was revisiting x! i actually had so much fun with the berries than it felt sad that i could never get that many berries again when i played platinum after that
I never did berries so this is the first time im learning about it
FINALLY
Pokemon content I care about
Oh so that's where the Pokéclicker berry game comes from
For anyone interested in this crossbreeding farming mechanic, Harvest Moon a Wonderful Life did it first!
Pretty sure those farming mechanics has been implemented into Cobblemon 1.4 (I haven't tried the last update to check it).
I'm really getting Cookie Clicker garden minigame flashbacks from this
Thanks a bunch, Droomish. Now I have the motivation to replay Gen 6 again. I was looking for a good excuse!
Hunting for wild berries and farming are actually why I never finished X&Y - I just got so badly sidetracked that... yeah. I only ever went so far as to unlock the first area with the last-available color of berry trees in battle and just... farmed forever. (With a daily run of the Hotel Richissime jobs for clothes-shopping money on the side.)
Just like Scarlet and Violet... or wait, no, that one doesn't have farming... or content...
Damn, X&Y really were the last good pokemon games
Your character's drip is FIRE
this video alone make wanna play those games again
Rachel berry oh my god
RACHEL BERRY?!??
LITERALLLYLYY I LOST IT
tamagotchi mention has me booting up X&Y LOL. i always skipped over this area in the few playthroughs of gen 6 that i’d done. i loved berries in gens 3&4 so i have no idea why i never bothered in gen 6! this is so neat!
I had forgotten about this entire feature, but now I'm getting flashbacks to growing berries back in 2013. I definitely remember picking weeds from an oran berry tree
The problem with all of these things really is the lack of explanation in-game. Nowadays it seems crazy cus you’d just look online for guides, but as a kid with no or limited access to the internet depending on the game, them making these mechanics opaque just to sell their official guidebooks was messed up on a capitalism level and a player’s enjoyability level. Don’t get me wrong, I think this got the closest they would ever bother with getting ever again (randomly putting trees next to each other and seeing what spawned *was* fun), but by this point most people had been burned with too much inexplicable bs to want to put literal days into discovering whether this was bs too or not. Also putting it in an out-of-the-way missable location? Very weird choice.
I def did not expect a (visual) Rachel Berry shoutout. Love it!
Wish XY had this kind of depth in literally any other part of the game. Like imagine instead of farming they invested in something like idk, a fucking postgame? More battle facilities? Crazy to ask for, I know.
I did all of the berry mutations I could. Some of the berries were locked behind using a specific move like air cutter while you can see a tree in the wild. All of the moves were too specific or bad, so I never did any of the in battle gathering until a second playthrough.
Oooh, it’s nice to see someone talk about this! I remember looking up on Serebii berry mutations to get the rare stat lowering ones lol.
May have peep a few videos beforehand but fully happy to be in the loop now. Excited and tuned in 😎
BRO IT WAS SO SICK
Considering how little I remember about this feature, I think that I might have figured "Oh, it's just a big spot to plant berries" and completely ignored it since I don't use berries a whole lot anyway.