KLH Model 5 vs Wharfedale LINTON

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  • Опубліковано 4 гру 2024

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  • @dropthehammer1360
    @dropthehammer1360 Рік тому +12

    Guys, it’s an attenuator, not an adjustable crossover.

  • @puddleglumsmusiccollection9151

    You can listen all day to the Lintons with no fatigue unlike the model 5

  • @maryvillanueva2075
    @maryvillanueva2075 Рік тому +5

    I appreciate the comparison with different genres and all the effort put into these comparison videos! Keep it up Hifyed!

  • @andrewgorenc9160
    @andrewgorenc9160 Рік тому +6

    Great video Guys, this is by far the best Linton-versus-Model 5 video to date! There are some who will prefer the Lintons but you have shown the 5’s are the more technically accomplished speaker. Thanks again!

    • @Hifyed
      @Hifyed  Рік тому +2

      Thank you! This was a hard video for us and we tried our best to stay neutral and gauge it on our listening experience.

  • @robertbrody4032
    @robertbrody4032 Рік тому +7

    Reposting....Had both. I really don't get how anyone with good associated gear could consider the Lintons an audiophile speaker. They sound rather dull with Class D, tubes and A/B. They do sound vintage and are friendly to weaker recordings. The Model 5's are a fully realized audiophile design packaged to LOOK vintage, but after that they offer greater detail and transparency. It's not really a close battle if you want speakers that offer superior clarity, image and timbre. I really think the lower price point of the Lintons drives a lot of people to (hope) believe that they are in the same league as the Model 5's. I had both paired with Rogue Cronus Magnum III, Nuprime IDA 16, Cambridge EVO150....the Model 5's are hands-down a superior audiophile speaker for anyone planning to build a serious system. The Model 5's are good enough to pair with higher end electronics while the Linton's are less likely to take advantage if you start upgrading. I kept the Model 5's. Other speakers in my systems...Magnepan, Kef, Duevel, Revel, etc.

    • @rosewoodsteel6656
      @rosewoodsteel6656 Рік тому +2

      From the sound clip comparisons I have heard, I completely agree. The Model 5's were head and shoulders above the Linton's. They were Capital Grille compared to McDonald's.

    • @normanleach5427
      @normanleach5427 Рік тому

      ​@@rosewoodsteel6656Even this vegetarian knows an accurate comparison when he hears it.

    • @michaelcampbell9459
      @michaelcampbell9459 11 місяців тому

      Robert, how do the Model 5's compare to the Magnepan and KEF and what models do you have of those as I have .7 and 1.7i maggies and am considering the Model 5, KEF R3 meta, Mofi Sourcepoint 8, Linton, ELAC, KLH Kendall original, etc? Asking in regards to mids and hi's as I have dual REL subs for the low end. Looking for less bright/sibilant/edgy speakers as I listen to a lot of classic rock and female vocals via Denafrips Pontus II DAC. Thanks

    • @robertbrody4032
      @robertbrody4032 11 місяців тому

      @@michaelcampbell9459 Properly set up the Model 5's will easily out resolve the Mofi's and Linton's. Those with more moderate power and sources would probably be okay with the Linton's. My Magnepan .7's are superior overall, but can't party the way the Model 5's, which are beautifully balanced and full range. I actually own the Kef R3's and they are fantastic with surprising bass and excellent resolution. The R3's are probably equal to the .7's for musicality and resolution and you might even prefer the imaging. I get a deeper soundstage with the .7's and a lot depends on the room and placement. Not familiar with Elac or Kendalls. If you find ANY good speaker edgy, the problem could also be with your electronics.

  • @TheAffirmationoflife
    @TheAffirmationoflife Рік тому +5

    I've currently got a Rega Brio (thanks to your review!) driving my model fives. Really enjoying the combo!

    • @Hifyed
      @Hifyed  Рік тому +1

      Your welcome! Glad you are enjoying your new system and just in time for the holidays. Happy listening!

  • @mw3640
    @mw3640 Рік тому +3

    I would say that the room is a big factor here (well, it always is but you know what I mean). I auditioned both and had to bring the Lintons so far out into the out room to get a good sound but to a degree that just wasn't manageable. The KLH on the other hand hit the sweet spot for my room.

    • @Hifyed
      @Hifyed  Рік тому

      Thank you for sharing your experience. I agree the Lintons like to be a further away from the back wall. The KLH are a little less fussy on placement.

  • @timothyfreeseha4056
    @timothyfreeseha4056 Рік тому +1

    Klipsch Heresys are also awesome with low volume. Full sounding without losing detail.

    • @el34glo59
      @el34glo59 Рік тому +1

      Agreed. Idk why some people hate on them. I'd go heresy here. If looking for a so what smaller footprint like these guys.

  • @kaneda7katsuragi
    @kaneda7katsuragi Рік тому +3

    I might have missed it but did you try the linton's with the tweeters on the inside? manual says the wharfedale logo on the grills should face out... "The speakers should be positioned with treble units inwards, that is with the W badge on the grilles towards the outside."

    • @Hifyed
      @Hifyed  Рік тому +1

      We did try both! Thank you we should have made it clear. In our room it worked better as in increased the width of the soundstage a little more. We also have the first reflection points covered.

  • @roberthorvath9756
    @roberthorvath9756 Рік тому +1

    The pictures are swapped at the verdict (18:49). Great test anyway.

  • @sinaniseri6575
    @sinaniseri6575 2 місяці тому

    Thank you guys. You are the best 👍

  • @gronthomson
    @gronthomson Рік тому +2

    Excellent review, guys! Thank you! I'm a KLH 5 fan for sure! Would love to see your comparison of the KLH 5 vs Zu Audio Dirty Weekend 6. Both speakers are similarly priced.

    • @Hifyed
      @Hifyed  Рік тому +1

      Thank you! That would be an awesome comparison! Hopefully one day 😉

  • @samt8017
    @samt8017 Рік тому +2

    Been waiting for this one. I don’t think these two speakers are direct competitors because of the price points. It would be interesting to see how each would compete in their direct competitors. Good job guys!

    • @Hifyed
      @Hifyed  Рік тому +1

      Agreed. Two different price points but interesting comparison as both sound quite different.

    • @tommoyer4697
      @tommoyer4697 11 місяців тому

      Pretty close when add stand to lintons

  • @richm4402
    @richm4402 Рік тому +5

    I own the KLH5 and they sound excellent with well recorded music. However, I suspect the Linton’s are a much better all round speaker to live with. Could you please share the electronics used in the comparison? Thanks for the video!

    • @Hifyed
      @Hifyed  Рік тому +2

      Thank you for chiming in! I agree especially with music that are highly dynamically compressed. The electronics are from Orelle audio(uk company) It’s a company that I worked for a long time ago. They retail for $5500 in the early 2000s and are 120watts per Channel I believe. It’s been awhile, so I don’t remember all the specs. One thing I do know is how it sound and the reason why we use it 😉

  • @dannyfannyfoodle
    @dannyfannyfoodle Рік тому +15

    Linton just seems like the better value. Once you get up to KLH money, you’re edging near some extremely stiff competition.

    • @samt8017
      @samt8017 Рік тому +2

      Agreed.

    • @Hifyed
      @Hifyed  Рік тому +2

      Your right! The competition gets stiff as you go up in that price point.

    • @redstarwraith
      @redstarwraith Рік тому +4

      Heck yeah. I'd go with the Lintons and use the leftover $ to buy some lps!

    • @Hifyed
      @Hifyed  Рік тому +1

      @@redstarwraith at the end it is all about the music!

    • @ManuelMedellin.
      @ManuelMedellin. Рік тому +2

      there are not many speakers up to 2500 $ that are more appealing than the Model 5. For me so far only the Monitor Audio Silver 500 7G and Tannoy Revolution XT8F, however up to 3500 $ yes sure there gonna be more speakers that would be better than the KLH. Linton's though are a average speaker that can't compete with any of the mentioned here, they sound like 1000 $ speakers at best. They have a large fanbase because they were cheap and a Highseller, so many own those and hence biased, but they are not good speakers, sorry.

  • @longplayer8600
    @longplayer8600 Рік тому +1

    @18:34 you have the chart showing the scores in the wrong speaker column.

  • @guystpierrecomposer
    @guystpierrecomposer Рік тому +2

    Nice! One point missing from your analysis: sub bass. Big plus for the Linton (as show on your own graf) In fact, the Linton go deep (35hhz) and a sub woofer is not needed for many listeners like me. Synergy is very important two. Going for a very detailed DAC do great thing on the Linton because it will not becoming fatiguing and you will ear more sparkles and details. Same with the amp... but I'm biased because I work with focal monitors and when I listen for pleasure I want less analytical sound and more lush and warm sound. The Linton are very good for listening to the songs instead of technical details. That is why I love them so much!

    • @Hifyed
      @Hifyed  Рік тому

      Thank you for taking the time to share your thoughts! You are right we should have brought up the topic on bass. I only thought of it after….your the same as one of my friends that I helped built his studio. He’s got his focal monitors and said he wanted a speaker “not so perfect and less analytical for his everyday listening”. Thanks again for chiming in.

  • @__DMC__82
    @__DMC__82 Рік тому

    I haven’t heard the Lintons yet but have my heart set on a pair for my downstairs living room. Running Martin Logan Motion 60xt with Peachtree Nova 300 upstairs would love to hear the comparison and that warm British sound people speak of. Would you guys happen to know if Wharfdale will be releasing an updated version of the Lintons in the next couple years or so ?

  • @leonciobarrera7965
    @leonciobarrera7965 Рік тому +8

    Despite the price difference there are more reviewer who prefer the Linton over the KLH Model 5. Most reviewer find the KLH forward sounding and can sound bright while the Linton more musical and non fatiguing These 2 guys are definitely in the minority in their opinion.

    • @ManuelMedellin.
      @ManuelMedellin. Рік тому +1

      Not. KLH Model 5 won "speaker of the year 2021" on Jay's Iyagi channel, hes one of the more respected HIFI channels. Linton's are the most overrated speaker, they are muddy sounding while the Model 5 are transparent and audiophile. However the TANNOY Revolution XT8F are better than both, they make the Linton's look like a low-res joke speaker - also it was proven that Wharfedale is using cheap internal parts and a cheap crossover. The channel "GR-Research" has proven it, on the other hand he didn't find many cheap parts inside of the Model 5.

    • @leonciobarrera7965
      @leonciobarrera7965 Рік тому +1

      @@ManuelMedellin. that guy is a very obvious paid reviewer who likes to hype component he is reviewing like he's review on buchard speakers were other 2 reviewers completely disagree with him😂

    • @ManuelMedellin.
      @ManuelMedellin. Рік тому

      @@leonciobarrera7965 Not. I have heard both speakers and between Model 5 and Linton are worlds of Audiophile quality. Yup, they are not even close. Plus I much prefer Vocals coming close forward to me, and enveloping me in that Holographic space, which the Linton are never gonna be capable of, because they are not modern or advance. The Linton are very basic Vintage speakers, that don't have the Clarity nor the 3-Dimensional capabilities of the Model Fives, the Linton are worth maybe 500, while the Fives are easily sounding like a 2500 $ speaker. Also as Monitors for Critical listening the Fives are much more analytical. If you find the Fives too harsh in the Treble then there is a Switch at the back of the speaker to turn Treble from "High" to "Medium" or I believe there is even "Low" so you can set it perfectly according to your preference.

    • @rosewoodsteel6656
      @rosewoodsteel6656 Рік тому

      @@ManuelMedellin. So where do you buy the TANNOY Revolution XT8F in the US?

    • @el34glo59
      @el34glo59 Рік тому

      ​@@ManuelMedellin.Audiophile lol. Such a ridiculous term

  • @tellthemborissentyou
    @tellthemborissentyou Рік тому +5

    The pictures on your final scorecard are the wrong way round.😃 Great review. Would the KLH be better than the Linton in a smaller room? Or should I just buy a smaller set of speakers?

    • @Hifyed
      @Hifyed  Рік тому +1

      Thank you for pointing that out! It’s your video guys fault 😂. The klh would be better for a smaller room but you still need to be careful. Depending on the room a smaller speaker might be the easier bet.

  • @ukbij
    @ukbij Рік тому +1

    Nice one guys, i have the KLH M5's love them. BTW, You have got the speaker pics other way round in that graphic with table comparison..I will not allow for the M5's to confused for any other speaker ;)

    • @Hifyed
      @Hifyed  Рік тому +1

      Thank you! 2 funny 😂 I going to have to blame our video editor on that one. Enjoy your M5s

  • @NeverStark
    @NeverStark 6 місяців тому

    It would be great if you shared the names of your test tracks in the video description. I've been searching for a while and I can't find a cellist by the name I *think* I'm hearing you say. And the album art you showed for Sadeo Watanabe isn't the album that the track is on (Autumn Blow). All of these details would help a lot! Thanks.

  • @alferro3149
    @alferro3149 Рік тому +5

    Considered the price of the Linton is 56.6% the KLH's one sounds like a win for the Linton 🧐
    I would say it's a bit like comparing a Skoda with a Mercedes, but it was an interesting video. Cheers

    • @Hifyed
      @Hifyed  Рік тому

      Thank you! Your right price is a big factor, pretty surprising how divided the camps are on these two products.

  • @peterprimes497
    @peterprimes497 Рік тому +2

    Today the KLH model 5 is US 2,200 a pair & Lintons are 1,800.
    How does that affect their rankings/value?

    • @Hifyed
      @Hifyed  Рік тому

      I still don’t think it would have changed much in terms of rankings. When it comes to these speakers it seems so polarized on what people think sounds better. I definitely do think if the price is that close the value of the model 5 has gone up. Thank you for giving us an update on price.

  • @billythestalker
    @billythestalker Рік тому +1

    What are the electronics in the back? Nice vid!

    • @Hifyed
      @Hifyed  Рік тому

      Thank you! They are a company that I worked for many years ago called Orelle

  • @MarkMiller-i8q
    @MarkMiller-i8q 2 місяці тому

    I still don't know what a "vintage" sound is. All speakers have their own sonic signature (despite how neutral their designers try to make them), including vintage speakers. I get what a vintage look looks like but not the sound. Care to describe it?

  • @jimsregaturntableshifijukebox

    Excellent as always guys 👌

  • @theblastermaster5590
    @theblastermaster5590 8 місяців тому +3

    Honestly, it was hard to watch this comparison. The guy on the left is clearly biased toward the KLH's. Why not compare a Acura to a Honda? Both are excellent but one costs much less. He should have commented on that several times which he didn't. Nothing you measure gets perfect ratings on all categories.

  • @gregorytrane7828
    @gregorytrane7828 Рік тому +3

    If you auditioned the Wharfedale Lintons with the grills off then you didn't get the true representation of it's signature sound. They are meant to be listened and engineered in design with the grills on. If you listened to them with the grills on then the Linton's were optimized for the listening comparison. Many reviewers on other channels actually preferred the Lintons over the KLH's. I also sensed a certain biased review towards the KLH's. This might be because of their brighter or hotter sound character with most music. Room placement with the Linton's should be away from the walls to gain a better musical perspective. Overall though it was an interesting review none the less.

    • @Hifyed
      @Hifyed  Рік тому +1

      We did try it with the grills off. It's funny how many people gave us heck on our first linton video, how the grills should always remain on. This one was a really tough comparison for us and for that reason we struggled. That's the reason why I kept going back to why someone would prefer the Linton's throughout the video. In the 25 years working in the industry I knew this two speakers were going to be polarizing. Thank you for taking the time and providing your feedback!

    • @mrtreeleaf
      @mrtreeleaf Рік тому +1

      Why do linton owners always gotta be looking for confirmation bias for their own speakers. If it didn’t match another channels review that validates your purchase just relax. Everyone is entitled to their own opinion. Some people like more top end open detail with their speakers. Not everyone has to agree with you

  • @ericschwartzberg5083
    @ericschwartzberg5083 Рік тому +3

    Thank you both for your honest evaluation. I was a little surprised by the results. Alot of the other on line reviewers find the KLH to be a touch bright
    On the top end when compared to the Lintons.
    I think it comes down to
    Synergy, and what amplification and dac are used. Happy holidays to
    Both of you and keep up the great reviews

    • @Hifyed
      @Hifyed  Рік тому +2

      Your welcome and thank you for your feedback like always! They KLH are definitely brighter sounding compared to the Lintons, however, not to the point that I would consider to much. The KLH measure 2-3db less on the top end than our neutral reference speaker.
      The Lintons just have this sense of warmth that people really do love. They don’t have that super quick attack which just sounds more pleasing to a lot of people. I don’t think either way is wrong it just comes down to preference and your right how it’s matched. That’s why I have way to many speakers in my collection 😂

    • @Hifyed
      @Hifyed  Рік тому +1

      Happy holidays to you as well! And thank you for all the music you sent our way.

    • @ericschwartzberg5083
      @ericschwartzberg5083 Рік тому +1

      @@Hifyed my pleasure

    • @CristianIorga
      @CristianIorga Рік тому +1

      @@Hifyed Hello good folks, interesting article. Thanks. What is your neutral reference speaker, can you please tell? 3dB sounds like a lot being cut off from the highs, so if Linton is even more, isn't it too much for Linton? 6 dB being cut off is a lot, for example, basically means no trebles with modern music...

  • @narudh
    @narudh Рік тому

    what models were the amps on the sideboard? thanks

  • @redstarwraith
    @redstarwraith Рік тому +6

    In the looks department, I gotta go team Linton, 100%. Those KLHs just look kinda ho-hum. And the KLH stands? Zzzzzzzzz...

    • @Hifyed
      @Hifyed  Рік тому +1

      We do love the lintons stand it looks pretty sweet! It does make klh look less attractive.

  • @JoseGarcia-oo4mc
    @JoseGarcia-oo4mc Рік тому +2

    Excellent

  • @ManuelMedellin.
    @ManuelMedellin. Рік тому

    The Fives are great and among my favorite speakers, but if you want to see the Model 5 possibly lose give them a proper matchup in that 2000 - 2500 $ price range.
    1) Monitor Audio Silver 500 7G
    2) TANNOY Revolution XT8F
    Those two are currently my absolute banger favorite speakers in this price range

    • @Hifyed
      @Hifyed  Рік тому

      Would agree with you! As mentioned in my previous response the tannoys are awesome!

    • @el34glo59
      @el34glo59 Рік тому

      They seem huge tho. Any speakers for a smaller room that you'd recommend that's not a bookshelf, but not a tall tower? That's decently efficient? Thanks. Same price range

  • @ManuelMedellin.
    @ManuelMedellin. Рік тому +3

    Model 5 - not even a contest, Linton's are the most overrated speaker, their relative low price is warranted, they are (almost) muddy sounding only decent for Oldschool rock, the Fives are clear, transparent and much more holographic. Modern Pop, Hip Hop and especially EDM / Techno is going to sound much more impressive. It's just a speaker for another audience, Linton are speakers for older people, but for those people I usually recommend the much superior TANNOY Revolution XT8F, which are literally SLAYING these Lintons.

    • @Hifyed
      @Hifyed  Рік тому

      I do agree with you that the Lintons do cater to a specific sound. My friend was the voicing engineer for wharfedale for many years. He said you have cater the sound to an audience even if he may have agreed with it or not. Obviously it works as the amount of people who favor or are die hard fans of the Lintons shows in the comments.
      Love the tannnoy 8xtfs. In my opinion this was one of the best value speakers ever released!

    • @robertbrody4032
      @robertbrody4032 Рік тому +1

      The Model 5's are too bright in some rooms. Fatigue is a problem unless they're in a good damped room. The Linton's are superior in this regard. I'm pretty amazed at how little people know about audio. The room is your #1 speaker.

    • @rosewoodsteel6656
      @rosewoodsteel6656 Рік тому

      I am an older person and I don't like the Linton's. You may want to re think your stereotypes (pardon the pun). From the sound clips I have heard, the Model 5's were far and away the better speakers.

    • @robertbrody4032
      @robertbrody4032 Рік тому +1

      I see someone copied my name. Okay, well if you find the Model 5's bright, I suggest a proper listening room. If you have a poor room, then you'll have to settle for a speaker with less detail and dimension. My Model 5's are no brighter than my Magnepans, which are highly transparent and certainly not bright when paired to the right gear.

    • @michaelcampbell9459
      @michaelcampbell9459 11 місяців тому

      Robert, how do they compare to the maggies and what model do you have? For mids and hi's as I have dual REL subs. Thanks@@robertbrody4032

  • @szabolcskozsla
    @szabolcskozsla Рік тому +1

    The images in the table are incorrect. - ua-cam.com/video/tLWWliTeOzs/v-deo.html

    • @Hifyed
      @Hifyed  Рік тому

      Someone else pointed it when it was released. Our video guy mixed it up but thank you for pointing it out.

  • @paul-e6s1g
    @paul-e6s1g 14 днів тому +1

    thanks for nothing can we hear them?

  • @toddstyles7194
    @toddstyles7194 5 місяців тому

    Klh is hands down better sounding. Warm is just another word for dull sounding.

  • @HungryEatNow
    @HungryEatNow Рік тому

    It's beautiful when you don't have to worry about $$$$, but wake up and smell the coffee... premium or cheap chalk full of beans...

  • @Gadgetdad007
    @Gadgetdad007 Рік тому

    You do know that the you have put the speakers the wrong way around on the score chart. 😮

  • @黎志海
    @黎志海 Рік тому

    左邊那位像KLH派來的業代!

  • @cremersalex
    @cremersalex Рік тому

    Lintons come in three finishes. Mahogany, Walnut and Black Ash

    • @Hifyed
      @Hifyed  Рік тому

      Thank you! At the time mahogany was not available or at least here in Canada.

  • @timadams9119
    @timadams9119 9 місяців тому

    ...Your graphics (pics) are backwards.

  • @wagzel
    @wagzel Рік тому

    The verdict doesn't match the summary shown.

  • @johnnyboo9041
    @johnnyboo9041 Рік тому +4

    I hated the KLH’s too bright and fatiguing IMO.. Lintons easily for the win!! Their cheaper and just an overall better listening experience..

    • @Hifyed
      @Hifyed  Рік тому +1

      Thank you for sharing your experience. This one has many people divided.

  • @erics9754
    @erics9754 11 місяців тому

    Short auditions do not tell much the KLH would give you fatigue the Linton's would be good for long listening. I bought speakers I ended up hating at first I was impressed but over time I hated them so your test is flawed.

  • @toddstyles7194
    @toddstyles7194 Рік тому +1

    The 5 kills that doo doo Linton. No contest.

  • @JoanneTelling1
    @JoanneTelling1 Рік тому

    Aluminium,

  • @kodithebear
    @kodithebear Місяць тому

    Amps with loudness and treble / bass will fix up the linton. That’s what an amp is for…. The model 5 looks cheap and to detailed… or hot

  • @toddstyles7194
    @toddstyles7194 Рік тому

    The Linton's will mask the garage most people feed them. So they think they sound better than they are.

  • @jsdds1700
    @jsdds1700 Рік тому

    lol comments are full of linton fanboys that are having buyers remorse.
    erin's audio corner video review of klh's vs lintons isn't relevant because he didn't place the speakers as the manufacturer recommended so his review is invalid when comparing klh vs lintons. this is a much more fair comparison of the two.
    just audio had no clear cut winner between the two, just preference

  • @johnnytacokleinschmidt515
    @johnnytacokleinschmidt515 Рік тому

    KLH Model 5 versus Wharfdale Model 4.5.... 😂
    No rear ports! They suck. Ask my Cerwin Vegas.