The Greatest One Piece Character We Never Met

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  • @MrMorj
    @MrMorj  3 місяці тому +22

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  • @MarianaBello-fq3hx
    @MarianaBello-fq3hx 3 місяці тому +977

    Wano analysis, the greatest One Piece video we never saw.

    • @hoodie7257
      @hoodie7257 3 місяці тому +21

      September 17th

    • @Scroll62-Manga
      @Scroll62-Manga 3 місяці тому

      I make one piece videos check it out

    • @imdageeta
      @imdageeta 3 місяці тому +15

      You're not letting that go, huh?!

    • @MarianaBello-fq3hx
      @MarianaBello-fq3hx 3 місяці тому +36

      @@imdageeta No.

    • @TheRockerX
      @TheRockerX 3 місяці тому +16

      This joke is getting so annoying

  • @SnaXaccoon
    @SnaXaccoon 3 місяці тому +547

    He would be a great One Piece movie villain with Ace being the main character. We could also see him hunting down other ancient devil fruit users and Ace crossing paths with him.

    • @YightLagami
      @YightLagami 3 місяці тому +15

      Tbh sounds like it will be part of the spin off story

    • @thebat4977
      @thebat4977 3 місяці тому +29

      That's why I don't like most One Piece movies, I feel like they're often a wasted opportunity to tell a more interesting/relevant/canon story for the sake of fanservice... it doesn't have to be canon but at least make it a focused story not overflowing with random cameos or characters that end up having tiny roles.

    • @leoplanelles
      @leoplanelles 3 місяці тому +2

      THIS. THIS could actually be a great movie!!!!

    • @RedXlV
      @RedXlV 3 місяці тому +2

      Toei doesn't want to take such a risk as making a One Piece movie that doesn't have the main characters in it. Though Ace is himself massively popular (still a regular top 10 in the popularity polls more than a decade after his death), so a movie staring him would probably still be successful.

    • @Popstalgia
      @Popstalgia 3 місяці тому

      @@thebat4977would love to see an Ace movie!

  • @davidtippy7976
    @davidtippy7976 3 місяці тому +169

    This is what I love about One Piece; we can get a 15-minute lore video on a character with one picture and one paragraph of text.

    • @Drakholm
      @Drakholm 3 місяці тому +9

      He certainly knows how to stretch info out...I struggled with this one.

    • @riesl406
      @riesl406 3 місяці тому +2

      15 min about a char i have never goddamn heard about, i didnt know there was such a character

    • @sayeksofian
      @sayeksofian 3 місяці тому

      ​@riesl406 it's cause his not relevant to the main plot lines but he did play a role in the background as be is a Background character

  • @johndevlin9225
    @johndevlin9225 3 місяці тому +277

    There’s another layer to all of this. Caesar blew up punk hazard 4 years before the present story, and returned to punk hazard 3 years ago. Additionally, in the pre-timeskip era, Doflamingo’s smile production is clearly a relatively recent thing. The timelines match up nicely, Smiles, and potentially also Doflamingo himself, were brought in as replacements for Hanafuda’s ancient zoan supply.

    • @SamuelMason-mb9wj
      @SamuelMason-mb9wj 3 місяці тому +15

      Yoooo you're a legend for this

    • @Diesense
      @Diesense 3 місяці тому +6

      That’s exactly what I was thinking

    • @jackroberts4361
      @jackroberts4361 3 місяці тому +12

      Hanafuda being a former Beast Pirate, possibly a Calamity, makes too much sense

    • @ShatteredGlass916
      @ShatteredGlass916 3 місяці тому +12

      ​@@jackroberts4361 he could be like Vergo to Doffy, a high ranking General meant to scout things outside their territory

    • @Ayoo_Sabb
      @Ayoo_Sabb 3 місяці тому

      this guy is the Connect 4 champion. good show

  • @Pekara121
    @Pekara121 3 місяці тому +231

    How poetic it also is that the Ace (of Spades) defeats the King (of Lizards)

    • @ferm721
      @ferm721 3 місяці тому +14

      Oh shit I just realized that is also a nod to Roger (accidental nod since Ace wasn't supposed to be his son but interesting nevertheless)

  • @Zorojur059
    @Zorojur059 3 місяці тому +96

    His link with Kaido could also add a reason why Kaido wanted to go to Marinford before getting stopped by Shanks

    • @Nintendium-iw4be
      @Nintendium-iw4be 3 місяці тому +27

      I think Kaido wanted to go fight Whitebeard, but it could also be possible for him to go against Ace for taking down Hanafuda

    • @George-ef3er
      @George-ef3er 2 місяці тому +1

      my first thought, well said

  • @McDudes
    @McDudes 3 місяці тому +61

    This should be a movie. It basically write itself

  • @justinn8541akaDrPokemon
    @justinn8541akaDrPokemon 3 місяці тому +215

    I'm surprised that we never offically get a T-Rex zoan.

    • @Nephalem2002
      @Nephalem2002 3 місяці тому +6

      I mean that was technically Page One but he had more of a Raptor look didn’t he?

    • @CONQUERORRR-edits
      @CONQUERORRR-edits 3 місяці тому +41

      @@Nephalem2002 he was spinasorous

    • @jiraffe9600
      @jiraffe9600 3 місяці тому +10

      @@Nephalem2002No. he was a spinosaurus

    • @KhilitSavla25
      @KhilitSavla25 3 місяці тому +4

      @@Nephalem2002 actually he was a spinasorus not t-rex

    • @joe-pn6vs
      @joe-pn6vs 3 місяці тому +3

      Drake kinda

  • @adamfrost8313
    @adamfrost8313 3 місяці тому +21

    Add to the thoery:
    Hanafuda is Ulti and Page one father.
    In the sps it stated that they were the children of poweful pirate and close friend to Kaido (fans though the father might be a rocks pirate).
    And Ulti and Page one eat their fruits at young age to be useful to Kaido (where are 2 kids gonna find rare devil fruits in the new world?)

  • @axelgeerts5763
    @axelgeerts5763 3 місяці тому +50

    Is it me or did you just continually repeat the same information 4-5 times throughout the video? I literally thought the video was replaying itself.

  • @tobluetoblack
    @tobluetoblack 3 місяці тому +61

    What if... what if *he* is the man *marked by flames?*

    • @kings6574
      @kings6574 3 місяці тому +7

      he got defeated ion think he coming back cause Kaido had to get a new dealer (a worse one) so i think its safe to say hes out of the story

    • @eafmarine
      @eafmarine 3 місяці тому +1

      This will be my headcannon until proven otherwise. It fits perfectly

    • @MysteryMeats333
      @MysteryMeats333 3 місяці тому

      Interesting he just might be too weak

    • @pasherz960
      @pasherz960 3 місяці тому +1

      @@MysteryMeats333look at crocodile lmao

  • @SMILE-do9dw
    @SMILE-do9dw 3 місяці тому +83

    Hanafuda also seemed to be set up early on. The 7 warlords were based off of the 7 heroes from romancing saga 2. The spot Kuma occupied seemed not to gel because Dantarg was a dinosaur man that wanted to assimilate more monsters to get even stronger. Hanafuda's existence now makes sense.

    • @FabiusPyromanus
      @FabiusPyromanus 3 місяці тому +5

      THis!

    • @nattylight9494
      @nattylight9494 3 місяці тому +5

      Holy cook

    • @herickbrandelero2293
      @herickbrandelero2293 3 місяці тому +2

      Wow I didn’t know that

    • @richcast66
      @richcast66 3 місяці тому +10

      Wagnas, who is supposedly Crocodile, is said to be both male and female?! (Crocomom theory?!)

    • @SMILE-do9dw
      @SMILE-do9dw 3 місяці тому +11

      @@richcast66 that was actually one of the big pieces of supporting evidence back in the day.

  • @youngsmitty347
    @youngsmitty347 3 місяці тому +40

    Dont think that Hanafuda is the man with the burned scars, think its gonna be someone with more plot importance despite Hanafuda supplying Kaido years prior.
    Instead, i think this will be something we see in the Ace manga, something like Ace's 'Crocodile defeat' moment ala Luffy.

    • @AmanKumar-hz7ts
      @AmanKumar-hz7ts 3 місяці тому

      He could be . And after defeat he made a deal with the government to protect the last poneglygh ,to not be prisoned for failing his post.

    • @markogagic4091
      @markogagic4091 3 місяці тому

      @@AmanKumar-hz7ts he didnt have to be with the gov now, hence Aokiji didnt know who man marked by flames is, and he was an admiral so he would've known. Hanafuda was a warlord so he had connections to the gov already and after he got defeated by Ace maybe he went into hiding and maybe he already had the poneglyph without the gov knowing. It would be cool if he's the man marked by flames ngl and we see him in the story

  • @lynharth9947
    @lynharth9947 3 місяці тому +17

    Imagine Crocodile invites Hanafuda to join Cross Guild and he actually accepts it. Would be a nice way of introducing him into the story without slowing down the plot at all.

    • @animeroom2399
      @animeroom2399 Місяць тому

      If he were to be the man with the burn scars, and Cross guild somehow got hold of this information they would likely be the ones the realize his identity, bringing them closer to the one piece chase unlike now. Considering Two of the first Warlords are present at the guild and would've been in contact with him the most.

  • @MrJoemarV
    @MrJoemarV 3 місяці тому +12

    Having him as a villain in a OP movie during or before wano arc was a missed opportunity

  • @ckingdds88
    @ckingdds88 3 місяці тому +21

    It would be awesome to see movies on all these cut stories

  • @wisdommanari6701
    @wisdommanari6701 3 місяці тому +121

    Remember when we thought ace was forced to join the beast pirates lol

    • @adarshsridhar6051
      @adarshsridhar6051 3 місяці тому +18

      We were close, there was an “ace” in kaido’s crew, Yamato.

    • @BraveGisgo
      @BraveGisgo 3 місяці тому +5

      When was that theory prevalent? We knew ace was with Whitebeard since the start didn't we?

    • @MoonBaseFilms13
      @MoonBaseFilms13 3 місяці тому +18

      @@BraveGisgoit was around ace’s flashback in wano. A lot of people thought he was the “Ace” in Kaido’s crew and he also wore a necklace that resembled onigashima iirc

    • @soooduh
      @soooduh 3 місяці тому +5

      weeee????

    • @animepunk3167
      @animepunk3167 3 місяці тому +1

      Hello, Luffy! It's me, your brother Ace! ​@adarshsridhar6051

  • @Ray_D_Tutto
    @Ray_D_Tutto 3 місяці тому +58

    I'm hoping Hanafuda joins Cross Guild to complete the 7 warlords motif now that Blackbeard, Jinbei are spoken for. Kuma will probably join the Revs or die, Boa could join Luffy's fleet and no way Law and Doffy are working in the same crew.

    • @Franvvard
      @Franvvard 3 місяці тому +6

      Kuma was always part of the revolutionaries

    • @christianvondruska8244
      @christianvondruska8244 3 місяці тому +7

      ​@@Franvvard I think he meant joining back up with the Revs

    • @UltraPickleMan
      @UltraPickleMan 3 місяці тому +12

      Do we have confirmation that he is alive?Ace could have killed him

    • @christianvondruska8244
      @christianvondruska8244 3 місяці тому +11

      @@UltraPickleMan It's kind of expected that almost no one stays dead in One Piece, besides people want to see this character come up in the story. Ultimately it's up to Oda, obviously

    • @RedXlV
      @RedXlV 3 місяці тому

      @@christianvondruska8244 True, but characters who died before the story started *do* usually stay dead. Not always (Saul and Sabo say hi), but usually.

  • @christiancorralejo8726
    @christiancorralejo8726 3 місяці тому +23

    A fun fact, a recent study examining all the recovered T Rex fossils suggests T Rex could have gotten 50% larger than the largest individual found thus far. For context, the largest T Rex, Scotty, is around 13m long and 4m at the hip and the potential largest individuals could be as big as 15m. That along with having among the most powerful bites of any vertebrate and super keen sense makes T Rex’s title of King of the Lizards still very deserving.

    • @Sernival
      @Sernival 3 місяці тому +3

      Yeah that's pretty fun, nowadays people talk about them being giant birds so I get a bit hungry thinking about it

  • @AlbinoGorrila68
    @AlbinoGorrila68 3 місяці тому +7

    I think Hanafuda will return is Elbaf…. As the Man Marked by Flame. I have 3 reasons to support this claim.
    1. He fought, and lost to Ace. That’s where he got marked.
    2. There is thematic symmetry for a T-Rex Zoan user to be present during the Elbaf, as an homage to Little Garden.
    3. He would had connections in New World and would probably had an opportunity to take the last Poneglyph when nobody was looking.

    • @NeonRoger
      @NeonRoger 3 місяці тому

      Idk about on Elbaf, BBs crew said that man was constantly sailing not just hanging out on an island. It's possible just not likely unless they went to Elbaf, not a WG island but affiliated with Shanks, as an alleged WG agent.

  • @rowboatcop4451
    @rowboatcop4451 3 місяці тому +31

    I think in a meta story writing sense, Hanafuda *was* the original Kaido. Back before Oda invented the Warlords Luffy was going to go into the new world and immediately fight the Emperors (remember the story wasn't intended to be this long). Hanafuda then is essentially the lower level version of Kaido that would have existed in this shorter timeline. As the story progressed and what Kaido would have to be escalated, Oda developed the Kaido we know now, but he still had this old design kicking around, and used it for this SBS question.

    • @j-star1
      @j-star1 3 місяці тому +3

      wow you're right! he resembles a bit of the shadow of the previous "Kaido"!

    • @yami122
      @yami122 3 місяці тому +2

      @@j-star1 You know it's been so long I legitimately forget that Only Shanks and white beard Were shown properly in the initial showing of the four emperors and that two of them looked extremely generic
      And it is just hilarious Do you think on how much the designs changed

  • @BatmanBateman.
    @BatmanBateman. 3 місяці тому +6

    Morj is just procrastinating at this point instead of working on Wano Analysis

  • @redragon88
    @redragon88 3 місяці тому +25

    He's gonna be the villain of the next movie, isn't he?
    He's probably been in hiding all this time training and now he's yonko level.

  • @gianlucabettega4376
    @gianlucabettega4376 3 місяці тому +11

    Hanafuda the man marked by flames 👀

  • @akashpanda1729
    @akashpanda1729 3 місяці тому +2

    1:38 - Jinbe* was Ace's final (and probably the most difficult given his 5-day duel) opponent before he joined Whitebeard. We literally see it in the flashback.
    4:09 - Using "all but guarantees" pretty loosely there...
    5:13 - Making things up now...
    6:42 - Using "must" pretty loosely too...
    7:13 - "Factually"...
    8:25 - Just a note: If the Ace novels are canon, Ace must have defeated Hanafuda in Paradise because he was offered the Warlord position before entering the New World.
    9:10 - Hanafuda has to be weaker than Jinbe because Ace after DEFEATING Hanafuda, TIED with Jinbe. Given how uncharitable you are with Jinbe, you will have to keep the same energy with Hanafuda.
    9:49 - It's "Tyrant Lizard King" but I'll let it slide...
    10:12 - Actually if you go by mass (which a lot of scientists do for some reason) T-Rex is still on top...
    11:30 - P-T-E-R-A-N-O-D-O-N... It's right there...
    12:28 - He collects Ancient Zoan Devil Fruits. It is never stated that he hunted Ancient Zoan Devil Fruit Users. That's an assumption...
    13:20 - Again we don't know that... We don't know if he was allied with Kaido, if he was in Wano, or if he had a an organizarion... We are piling speculations on top of speculations at this point...
    13:38 - "Only"...? How do we know that...?
    14:09 - Yeah, it's not like Ace fought another Warlord the same year at a different location... It's not like Ace also met with another emperor before meeting Whitebeard on another non-Wano location... It's not like Ace could visit multiple islands in the same year... It must be Wano...

  • @Unlawfulgang1
    @Unlawfulgang1 3 місяці тому +80

    Oda doesn’t have time to give us information, but this is a character he should have showed a long time ago

    • @gabrielvidal511
      @gabrielvidal511 3 місяці тому +6

      I hoped that they would have adapt the fight with ace in the boichi manga but sadly they skipped that part

    • @ChillstoneBlakeBlast
      @ChillstoneBlakeBlast 3 місяці тому +7

      The story is already long enough

    • @feroas3150
      @feroas3150 3 місяці тому +8

      Not really, Its not that important

    • @UltraPickleMan
      @UltraPickleMan 3 місяці тому

      ​@@feroas3150He basically exists to show that Kaido was always in contact with the underworld nothing more so yeah he is going to stay as a "myth" only

  • @FizzoWeird
    @FizzoWeird 3 місяці тому +4

    There is an extra layer to that.
    Ulti and Page One are told to be the children of an pirate that was afiliated with Kaido, and that Kaido decided to take care of those two after this associate was killed.
    So it's not impossible that Ulti and Page One are the children of Hanafuda.

  • @Quavon9786
    @Quavon9786 3 місяці тому +3

    1:43 haven’t seen much and I’m sure the rest will be good, but Ace didn’t go to Wano until he joined WB because he wanted to avenge the man who originally held his position

  • @Nolantokes
    @Nolantokes 3 місяці тому +11

    What if he had the dark dark fruit and was stealing devil fruit abilities and putting them into fruits? When Ace killed him, his fruit then became free, and it allowed for Thatch to find it.

    • @phillydam
      @phillydam 3 місяці тому +2

      This is what I’m saying! Makes it even more ironic also when you think about how Ace essentially gave BB the tools to capture him.

    • @imtiazsa1807
      @imtiazsa1807 3 місяці тому +16

      Given that Ace defeated Hanafuda this can't be true that he (Hanafuda) had the dark dark fruit. In the battle between Ace and Blackbeard we clearly saw that Ace was helpless against Blackbeard's abilities. There is no way that Ace previously fought and defeated the same ability user.

    • @bmoney3837
      @bmoney3837 3 місяці тому +4

      hes called king of lizards

    • @markogagic4091
      @markogagic4091 3 місяці тому +4

      @@imtiazsa1807 yes plus Ace was surprised to see what BBs fruit does so he clearly never saw it in action beofre that fight with BB

    • @skndr3067
      @skndr3067 3 місяці тому

      You don't need the Dark Dark fruit to take a fruit ability, you can just kill the user and have some normal fruits around.
      Though it would be interesting to see where Thatch found the DD fruit, it would offer some clues in the Rocks Pirates storyline

  • @-AwaleAbdi-
    @-AwaleAbdi- 3 місяці тому +1

    It's also interesting that Ace's bounty was 550 Million. Perhaps that's the bounty he got after beating Hanafuda which backs up the idea that Ace was pretty much at the same point in his progression as post-Dressrosa Luffy before getting derailed by Whitebeard then dying at Marineford.

  • @Redaku418
    @Redaku418 3 місяці тому +2

    I do hope we get to see more warlords of when the system started, former admirals, and great pirates of course sbs and just other stuff like that

  • @MegaZsword
    @MegaZsword 3 місяці тому +2

    I’m fairly sure that the “man with the burn scar” is this mysterious warlord that ace defeated. If he was able to procure ancient zoan fruits, it wouldn’t be out of the question that he was also able to grab the last Rio Poneglyph!

  • @申月営無営月無営有申
    @申月営無営月無営有申 3 місяці тому +2

    Hanafuda is obviously the man marked by flames

  • @duskycat2326
    @duskycat2326 3 місяці тому +2

    Tyrannosaurus Rex actually means Tyrant Lizard King. Which makes Hanafuta's nickname even more demonic

  • @RestlessGamblrr
    @RestlessGamblrr 3 місяці тому +50

    kidd before kidd

    • @oomar4597
      @oomar4597 3 місяці тому

      Passing down the washed gene like the straw hat

    • @kingmanga8575
      @kingmanga8575 3 місяці тому +1

      Don’t get the kid comparison at all

    • @PER578
      @PER578 3 місяці тому +2

      The Kidd slander has to stop. He beat big mom

    • @Uri433
      @Uri433 3 місяці тому +1

      @@PER578 carried by law, basically just yeeted big mom instead of a proper defeat then got one shot by shanks alongside his whole crew. The slander is well deserved

    • @poutineausyropderable7108
      @poutineausyropderable7108 3 місяці тому +1

      ​@PER578 No, he pushed dumb mom off an island, did barely any damage, except for one attack, and was at best an aggro tank.
      Dumb mom did not use her speed which we know she has due to fighting kaido for 3 days, nor any form of advanced haki.
      She was hurt by falling metal. Like, do you know how weak that is compared to a wano luffy g4 punches?

  • @Go_D._Usopp_1997
    @Go_D._Usopp_1997 3 місяці тому +13

    I'm just going to write what I said in twitter when the SBS 109 came out, July 1:
    "
    New theory/explaination unlocked!
    Until 5 years ago -> Hanafuda had the title of Warlord. [canon]
    Until 5 years ago -> Hanafuda worked with Kaido, and he was selling him Ancient Zoans (5 in total). [theory]
    5 years ago -> Ace beat his ass. [canon]
    5 years ago -> Ace entered Wano to challenge Kaido. He became friends with Tama and Yamato. [canon]
    4~5 years ago -> Ace became a Whitebeard Pirate. [canon]
    4~5 years ago -> Doflamingo and Kaido became business partners with their weapon industry. [canon]
    3~4 years ago -> = Caesar began his partnership with Doflamingo. This allowed the production of SAD, a substance that allowed to grow SMILE fruits in Dressrosa.
    2~3 years ago -> After successfully growing SMILEs, Joker sold them to Kaido. [canon]
    2 years ago -> Business is booming for Doflamingo, which doesn't make Sengoku happy. [canon]
    2 years ago -> The slave trade is not really profitable anymore so Joker let Disco deal with its bad consequences, while he invests into SMILEs. [canon/theory]
    3 months ago -> Kaido amassed an army of 500 SMILEs, thus he bought a total of 500×10=5000 fruits from Joker.
    3 months ago -> Luffy beat his ass.
    2 weeks ago -> Luffy entered Wano to challenge Kaido, and he won. He became friends with Tama and Yamato. [canon]
    There's a nice parallel between Ace and Luffy: beating the Warlord who dealt with Kaido then challenging him and befriending Tama and Yamato.
    Also Hanafuda 100 % had the T-Rex Zoan Devil Fruit since he was the “King of Lizards”. [theory]
    In the continuity of his connection with Kaido, I think he must have been a Tobi Roppo / the 3rd Okaban at the time, and Kaido sent him on a mission to get Ancient Zoans. [theory]
    "

  • @BidwellRunner
    @BidwellRunner 3 місяці тому +1

    The kusarigama that he fights with is a distinctly historical Japanese weapon. That along with his Japanese name (Hanafuda) makes me suspect he is a Wano native.

  • @Zach-qo1on
    @Zach-qo1on 3 місяці тому

    this is why I kinda wanted wano to be longer just to flesh out important stuff like this.

  • @simondebesai5947
    @simondebesai5947 3 місяці тому +2

    this puts Blackbeards pre timeskip power into a new perspective. I used to think they were relative to the straw hats back then but hell nah

  • @mlem44
    @mlem44 3 місяці тому +4

    Design-wise, there's literally a skull of a T-Rex on Hanafuda's cap.

  • @anjuju2
    @anjuju2 3 місяці тому +1

    1 additional parallel & variable between Ace & Luffy's New World Adventures:
    Fight & Defeat a Shishibukai/Suplier for a Yonko
    Both were subsequently Defeated and "Detained" by a Yonko
    Both aimed to have them succumb to their presence
    Both with unbreakable Spirits fought back
    One was left Free & eventually Joined
    The other Shackled, Refused & Claimed Victory

  • @samjoshwilliams4713
    @samjoshwilliams4713 3 місяці тому +4

    Oh shit! We are definitely going to see the Hanafuda fight in anime.

  • @JP-zb3yb
    @JP-zb3yb 3 місяці тому +5

    Theres even more card themes amongst the beast pirates, like Page One, and even minor characters like Ginrummy

  • @Riff.Wraith
    @Riff.Wraith 3 місяці тому +1

    4:40 I mean, the Donquixote family are pretty much all paramecia users, no? Like they don't have a "theme" but they're pretty much all the same type at least. They have a couple Logia users I guess but those two are both on Punk Hazard rather than Dressrosa.

    • @januszpolak254
      @januszpolak254 3 місяці тому +1

      To be fair Paramecias are most common so it make sense most of them have that.

  • @urtoryu_dy_althraidn
    @urtoryu_dy_althraidn Місяць тому

    This and Rocky Port... Such epic tales we all wish we could see, but never will.

  • @888YungStatic888
    @888YungStatic888 3 місяці тому +3

    Oda should make some sbs's and cut content into full specials and movies once One Piece is done

  • @YourOG123
    @YourOG123 3 місяці тому +1

    Great video but seems like a missed opportunity not to mention Ace’s name fitting with the card theme?

  • @DominatorK5
    @DominatorK5 3 місяці тому +3

    Loved the video Morj! Just wanted to mention that (depending on how much weight cannonically you put on the Ace Novels) Ace was asked to be a Shichibukai when he got to Sabaody with his crew. Can't remember right now if it was mentioned if he already defeated the Warlord by the time he was there or not though :P [Referring to Ace Story Novel 1 Chapter 3]

  • @awolr
    @awolr 3 місяці тому +1

    Almost 100% convinced Hanafuda was a plant by the WG to enable the overtake of Wano by pirates. They clearly haven't been able to do it themselves

  • @carloshenrique-xb5bz
    @carloshenrique-xb5bz 3 місяці тому

    It makes more sense then for it to be a trade agreement with Kaido considering how Page One and Ulti got their fruits by stealing them from a stash Kaido had when the two were KIDS. It is literally impossible for them to have been kids at the time after Ace beat Hanafuda since that is four years before we see them in the CANON, they would not be kids anymore by then, more teenagers really

  • @tiagorafael2542
    @tiagorafael2542 3 місяці тому +3

    His weapons look more like he'd be an Ankylosaurus

    • @Chiefteeth1
      @Chiefteeth1 3 місяці тому

      There’s a T. rex skeleton on his hat.

  • @dune-z2707
    @dune-z2707 3 місяці тому +1

    As many are are saying, he is a likely option for the man marked by flames. I'd like to add however that with the introduction of Hanafuda there are now 7 "antagonist" shichibukai open to potentially complete Cross Guild. Buggy, Crocodile, Mihawk, Doflamingo, Weevil, Moriah and now Hanafuda.

  • @AlphaPancake96
    @AlphaPancake96 3 місяці тому +12

    What if Hanafuda IS the man marked by flames b/c of his fight w/Ace and we'll meet him in Elbaf?

  • @j-star1
    @j-star1 3 місяці тому

    simply wow!
    to Oda for writing this endless story and to you for your amazing analysis!!!

  • @mathieuleader8601
    @mathieuleader8601 3 місяці тому +2

    It would be good if Hanafuda appeared in a flashback in Netflix's One Piece when the Straw-Hats meet Ace.

  • @fire1655
    @fire1655 3 місяці тому

    If it’s so happens that he actually was selling them to Kaido that means that that drunk, insane bastard actually respected the man enough to not outright steal them from him much less that Tyrannosaurus fruit since it would be so rare. And considering we haven’t heard anything about the man since that point is probably still hunting fruits or is just that powerful because after he got kicked out of the warlords, he wouldn’t have the protection and blanket immunity gave him the ability to go hunting.

  • @khumotshabalala5115
    @khumotshabalala5115 3 місяці тому +55

    Imagine he was the head of some bounty hunters guild 😭. But you frauds get ‘arc fatigue’ so oda gotta keep it snappy

    • @aritrasaha441
      @aritrasaha441 3 місяці тому +12

      Nah. The bounty hunters guild idea is something i believe oda gave up on post east blue.

    • @monkeyboy275bobo8
      @monkeyboy275bobo8 3 місяці тому +7

      @@aritrasaha441 Oda tried to get it into the story with Whisky Peak which was supposed to be an island of bounty hunters but i guess that didnt work so well because Zoro just ended up soloing the whole thing and now people dont even remember bounty hunting was even a part of the arc.

    • @Chiefteeth1
      @Chiefteeth1 3 місяці тому +1

      We get arc fatigue because one piece arcs spend way too much time things we already know or things that aren’t important.

  • @EpicGeckoComics
    @EpicGeckoComics 3 місяці тому

    I’m using him as the villain for a OP fan arc I’m making, it’s called Draco Nest and it’s full of reptile people.

  • @rug4565
    @rug4565 3 місяці тому

    Maybe Hanafuda is imprisioned in Impel down and back in the Impel Down arc, the prisoners were referring to him. If you remember, they were quite afraid of a shadowy character that has not been revealed yet (potentially)

  • @AstroPeezy
    @AstroPeezy 3 місяці тому +1

    Morj is right. I'd be lying if I said I wasn't waiting for a trex user in kaidos crewbut I don't think ace beat him at wano.
    I think Ace battling him is the whole reason ace went to wano. He may have found out about the human trafficking, as that may have been the price in exchange for ancient zoan fruits. Or just simply learning where to find an emperor through defeating Hanafuda

  • @Ac3.D.Gr3at
    @Ac3.D.Gr3at 3 місяці тому

    Goofy theory: he was able to find other ancient zoans because trex are good hunters and would search for other animals from its era

  • @mathieuleader8601
    @mathieuleader8601 3 місяці тому +1

    I think Hanafuda ended up being one of Wang Zhi's commanders on Beehive Island and fought during the Rocky Port incident.

  • @Elhombre36
    @Elhombre36 3 місяці тому

    I would for all this to be proven canon in a flashback or something , not to mention is love his design, this guy can’t be wasted off panel

  • @TheSwagmasterJay
    @TheSwagmasterJay 3 місяці тому +2

    Uta was cool and all but when are we getting THIS movie?? I’d pay to see Ace throw a meteor at a T-Rex

  • @tkay42
    @tkay42 3 місяці тому

    My Headkanon:
    The defeat of Hanafuba oppened the possition as Kaidos supplyer and that's what Don Flammingo made the great underworld boss, as we know him. Heak, maybe Hanafuba was formerly known as Joker! But when ACE defeat him, Doffy saw his opportunity and made Kaido the offer to not bring quality, but quantity and slipt in, in Hanafubas role. Maybe he even orchestrated the whole meetup. between Hanafuba and ACE, from the shadows!

  • @NeonRoger
    @NeonRoger 3 місяці тому +1

    Hanafuda is the man marked by flames.

  • @Underwate
    @Underwate 3 місяці тому

    Oda prolly loves the pun with the cards and the “dealer” too

  • @cimex7492
    @cimex7492 3 місяці тому

    Hanafuda also likely had a crew / owned the devil fruits of an Anky, Stego, dromeosaur of some sort, and other dinosaurs / prehistoric animals

  • @UltaBlueRev
    @UltaBlueRev 3 місяці тому +1

    I dont think Hanafuda necessarily had to be at Wano but everything else makes sense

  • @speedwagom
    @speedwagom 3 місяці тому +1

    now imagine a movie telling this piece of history being made

  • @tracythomas9524
    @tracythomas9524 3 місяці тому

    One piece should make a movie out this with ace. Easy money grab

  • @illamatic1378
    @illamatic1378 3 місяці тому +4

    It's morjin time ⌚

  • @goofywill90
    @goofywill90 3 місяці тому +1

    Hanafuda was the gatekeeper before Doffy. Kaido like Big Mom with Loki would have been goated with this guy still around. Ace saved Luffy 5x over that's how you do plot armor.

  • @vicunaleather6992
    @vicunaleather6992 3 місяці тому

    I’d like to think he was the predecessor of the kibi kibi fruit since he maybe was defeated in wano. It would explain how tama came in possession of it. Ace and tama is a parallel to Roger and luffy. The epithet king of lizards could still apply seeing that in wano there’s precedence of animal eating df and tama using animals that have decided to stay despite not being influenced by the control of her df.

  • @Rell559
    @Rell559 3 місяці тому

    I've seen one of the comments here saying that hanafuda is the original kaido and to some extent i agree with that cuz he's quite literally "the king of the lizards" so it would only makes sense if he's the captain to the beast pirates that has a bunch of dinasaur memebers to it but im glad it was the big and menacing kaido that we got instead of a doflamingo body type 2.0 as a yonko.

  • @McDudes
    @McDudes 3 місяці тому +8

    He might not have hunted devil fruit users but instead searched for the devil fruits. Since people was so chocked about Black Beard finding a way to do it.

  • @DominickSalvato
    @DominickSalvato 3 місяці тому

    We will get the story sometime before or after one piece ends you know like all the extras they did for Naruto. This will be animated and we will have it one day.

  • @sharkberry1405
    @sharkberry1405 3 місяці тому

    Two of my favorite things in this world are One Piece and Dinosaurs. This is my favorite theory video already. And this would make such a fantastic OP Film

  • @johnmcgreed
    @johnmcgreed 3 місяці тому

    its a good theory but when the devil fruit user dies their devil fruit transfers to the nearest fruit so surely someone would have found it after 4 years

  • @AutumnExplorer
    @AutumnExplorer 3 місяці тому

    I swear when One Piece ends we need to start a petition for Oda to release all of his notebooks to the public. English translated with the sketches! I remember seeing a image of his art studio and this man had over 30 campus notebooks on his book shelf, WTF!

  • @UrosDjukic-z3d
    @UrosDjukic-z3d 3 місяці тому

    The former greatest swordsman who Mihawk defeated is just as wasted

  • @tanydossie4076
    @tanydossie4076 3 місяці тому

    I just figured he only let in people wo had those fruits to begin with So that he could have a theme

  • @Gramaa1322
    @Gramaa1322 3 місяці тому

    this topic cant be made any better!!. this is awesome, very logical and believable

  • @Mr.M3447
    @Mr.M3447 3 місяці тому +2

    I wonder if this guy could be the man with burn scars?

  • @blinkrush6101
    @blinkrush6101 3 місяці тому

    “Link to the extended thoughts podcast in the description” well… it isn’t

  • @BAL_D_CORNELL
    @BAL_D_CORNELL 3 місяці тому

    The idea of all the zoans being provided by this character is very likely an cool.

  • @mauiviola3155
    @mauiviola3155 3 місяці тому +1

    Also, if you dont believe Morj and the great connections... just look at Hanafuda's hat. It's literally a slightly elongated T-Rex Head Bone/fossil.😂

  • @DeviLKM7
    @DeviLKM7 3 місяці тому

    Hanafuda is the man marked by flames 🤔🤔

  • @osamakhalid4513
    @osamakhalid4513 3 місяці тому

    Great video bro but a slight point I don’t think they fought on Wano. I think after Ace’s visit, when Kaido came back and saw the damage he did, both materialistic and Psychological (good for Yamato but bad in Kaido’s eyes). Then he either sent Hanafuda or Hanafuda heard and went after Ace himself and then they fought. Cause it doesn’t make sense that Hanafuda was there when Kaido wasn’t.

  • @urtoryu_dy_althraidn
    @urtoryu_dy_althraidn Місяць тому

    It's possible Ace took down Hanafuda while in Wano, and only after that went for Onigashima to hunt Kaido himself. If he had just taken down one of Kaido's strongest men, then it'd naturally be pretty notable when he was unable to do the same to Yamato, which adds to the impact that encounter would have on him.

  • @WillPower311
    @WillPower311 3 місяці тому +1

    I'd watch the hell out of this as a movie!

  • @riveenwickenham8392
    @riveenwickenham8392 3 місяці тому

    Trex means TYRANT lizard king, specifically meaning he had to have been a beast

  • @KingQuetzal
    @KingQuetzal 3 місяці тому

    The golden shape on his hat is a T-Rex skull viewed from above.

  • @dmanzawsome
    @dmanzawsome 3 місяці тому

    ... No big moms islands don't spawn food related devil fruits, she just seeks them out because she loves food...

  • @rocmiraclepallares7504
    @rocmiraclepallares7504 3 місяці тому

    You also missed to point out that the highest card on the deck (what would be above the King card) is the Ace. So while for all this time Kaido s been what people would assume the Ace, maybe Hanafuda was in fact his first commander, and he took the nickname Ace, which would be so on point, given that the one who actually defeated him, was named Ace as well

  • @ashrayviswanath7857
    @ashrayviswanath7857 3 місяці тому

    I think Hanafuda was one of the subordinates of Kaidou before Jack. Because in ODen flashback we see 3 subordinates of Kaidou, and Jack is far too young to be there.
    So I think Hanafuda became a warlord and quit his position so that he can become a spy for Kaidou. Jack took his place and replaced him.

  • @reme7903
    @reme7903 3 місяці тому

    This makes alot of sense! I was wondering about this too.

  • @redsoxfan846
    @redsoxfan846 3 місяці тому +1

    but didnt X-drake have his before he joined the beast pirates

  • @jackroberts4361
    @jackroberts4361 3 місяці тому

    My theory is that he was a former Beast Pirate, maybe the Calamity before Jack since he's much younger than King and Queen. We know he was collecting ancient zoan fruits, but he could have had one himself. My bet is his was the T.Rex.