Building a supercharged W202 Mercedes drift car in 11minutes...
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- Опубліковано 23 сер 2024
- In my eyes the W202 C230 Kompressor is one of the most underrated drift cars there is, far better than the obvious rivals like the E36 BMW.
I've had a few, but my last one I decided to go a little further than usual, and the results were great, and this is how it was done...
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this is so awesome bro. great to see other c230 owners doing something with theirs
Man this video completely changed my plans on which project to do next. The problem with the w202 at least in my country is that it only came in c220 with an automatic transmission so finding a manual tranny to convert it is gonna be rough.
They are great cars, super underrated.
@@StavTech bro that comment u made about letting go the wheel many many many ppl don't understand like 85% of ppl thats driven with me when I drift panic @ the sight of me letting go even when I guide friends that are like trying to drift or like just play around when I tell them let go of ur steering & don't brake play with ur accelerator they think im crazy but as soon as I show them they get what I mean but still they find it hard to do but I think its a natural instinct if u just made for driving or u been driving since a very young age for me I started @ 7 you kinda pick up on things like that as u develop grow older or rather with experience the more u do it u get beta u start figuring out.things on ur own u find u own nicks & tricks like no1 taught me how to race or drift I didnt know other ppl also heel toe I dont heel toe I have my own way of angling my foot but u get my point lol & yeah when I started watching UA-cam vids honestly ¬ making this up I was shocked too see yo other ppl professional ppl racers are doing things that just came naturally to me I that I thought up coz its what made sense to me the mad part is always my friends or girls or any1 thats passenger trying to figure what im doing or why im braking but still keeping the revs up things like that lol yo bro if u read this comment awesome video I work on Mercedes btw its my living just do Mercedes Benz thanks AWESOME VIDEO #RESPECT
tell me can you get a Chip for a W202 ?
Did you ever find a manual transmission? I'm looking to swap cause america.
@@xavierwales7669 btw there is adapter kits for bmw ZF manual transmissions
So glad I found this video. I’m on my 6th c230. (I get rid of them shortly after giving it a nice drop and wheels) but just picked up a cheap one that I’m gonna build actually put more effort in than just maintenance, wheels, and a drop. I thought the mod to the MAF was interesting and the especially the supercharged pulley. I had no idea it was ran on a clutch.
this is one of my motivation videos I watch to keep me going with my slk230. I'm amazed how much you gained from so little!
you've done so much I'm catching up, I need that pulley size. and did you end up destroying it st any point?
This car looks bloody awesome! Now you've got me looking at cheap c230's too
LOVED this and the first one back in the day when forums were alive!
Otacon I loved the red one too! Wish I’d have kept the seats from it at least
@@StavTech yeah mate those were the days eh! I miss your fc big time and the rb swapped yota
any stav thread was the best on driftworks.
10:35
Buddy you have no idea how many places do this. We picked up a friends w116 which he was using for parts before it went to the crusher. Took it home, replaced the fuel pump, and fired it up. The 2.8l m110 ran amazing! We then fixed up the mudguards, added a dual throttle spring, and took it rally racing. Absolute blast of a car! We then took it to an exhaust place (because in right hand drive countries, the manifolds did this weird thing which made the exhaust stupidly restrictive) for them to fix it. We said "we want mandrel bends and we will pay you to do so". They said "oh we do that anyway". Seemed legit, let them finish. Now we have some squashed up flatty patty pipes under the car. I think I'll look into doing my own exhaust next time.
Yes mate, wankers. They just think you won’t ever see so can get away with their BS
I have a 99' kompressor , how did u get your supercharger to sound so good? Mine makes the same noise, but much quieter...
Edit: Lol I should've finished the video
If only we got the manual version of the w202 in America. I would have never traded my w202 kompressor for an e36
Project CTW I didn’t realise you only got autos over there! That’s a shame, it’s a good strong box too
Swap it!
c36 was only in automatic. but anyways you can always get c280 or c230 kompressor in manual
@@PrzeszczepiX He meant e36 (BMW)
I drifted my stock 00 c230k into my neighbors lawn, pretty sick drift tbh
super sweet build! going to check one out tomorrow and hopefully buy it
Funny I listened to west up by wc yesterday and hadnt heard it in years and coincidentally was a song in this video 👍🏼
Very nice indeed,
I've just got a feel for the w202
Bought when I was in devorce, needed something to clear My mind
It worked great 😍 wet conditions are so much fun
Maybe opting for a 2.4/2.8
But the steering has my worries
Live this format . Very cool car
Man these cars just look damn good when they are black! Wish I could find one here for less than 10k
They are known for the hood popping open, had it happen to me on the road bent the hood in same spot really pissed me off because I just had some rust fixed and repainted
First drift car is hopefully gonna be one of these 🤤
Wish there was links for the stuff you bought!
Good stuff .. Ive owned silver 96 c220 (my first car) and white 1999 c280 I still think they are beutiful cars and would love to own a white 2000 c43 some day as a classic. That will be a great collectors car some day. I would like to swap it with a modern day V8 AMG engine like a E63
bro that comment u made about letting go the wheel many many many ppl don't understand like 85% of ppl thats driven with me when I drift panic @ the sight of me letting go even when I guide friends that are like trying to drift or like just play around when I tell them let go of ur steering & don't brake play with ur accelerator they think im crazy but as soon as I show them they get what I mean but still they find it hard to do but I think its a natural instinct if u just made for driving or u been driving since a very young age for me I started @ 7 you kinda pick up on things like that as u develop grow older or rather with experience the more u do it u get beta u start figuring out.things on ur own u find u own nicks & tricks like no1 taught me how to race or drift I didnt know other ppl also heel toe I dont heel toe I have my own way of angling my foot but u get my point lol & yeah when I started watching UA-cam vids honestly ¬ making this up I was shocked too see yo other ppl professional ppl racers are doing things that just came naturally to me I that I thought up coz its what made sense to me the mad part is always my friends or girls or any1 thats passenger trying to figure what im doing or why im braking but still keeping the revs up things like that lol yo bro if u read this comment awesome video I work on Mercedes btw its my living just do Mercedes Benz thanks AWESOME VIDEO #RESPECT
Always fancied tuning one of these. what did you do for fuel management when the boost went up?
Nothing. It copes on its own to the level i went to
@@StavTech I KNOW I'm about to order this exact same supercharger pulley, I have the SPEER Crank like you do too but I have an Slk230. Did you run into remap issues? at what point did you need a remap
@@Mitutumuch where did you find it and what size belt?
@@billcosby242 honestly man I bought 2 and I think this one fits pretty good it's like 53" I believe. dont quote me though I seized the old one to one that was told big and reduced. I havent ran it on the belt yet to find out the functionality, feels a little loose but could end up being good in futhre
awesome video haha! Love these underdog cars with potential :)
hi there, I just wanted to ask what size is the supercharger pulley you got? (how many mm's?) I am looking at getting one and it can be a custom size so i want to know your size for reference
Im trying to get one of these or a clk230 for a winter beater/drift car but fuck mate, this video has single-handedly made the value go up!
They pricey now? Back when I had a few they were cheap as chips, this one cost me a grand originally I think, and I think all previous ones I did were too.
You’d see people getting them for a lot lot less but they tended to be shitty, whereas I always started with half decent ones
@@StavTech Yeah no kiddin. About a year ago you'd see these things going for around that price ya said. and in decent shape too. but the price within a year jumped a grand and a half, espescially for the manuals.
Decent milage clk230s are now going for as much as 3 - 4k wich is bonkers. And i don't blame them.
This video really has giving the m111 the fame it deserves
@@streeatbeat wildly underrated cars for sure!
@@StavTech 10 months ago since i made this comment... and guess what.. I finnaly got a clk230 6 speed and DUDE these things rip even at stock power.. no lag! sometimes you can DEFINITELY trust the internet hahah
@@streeatbeat told you man! Massively underrated cars! Glad you like it!
i now want one of those - the onle w202 230 kompressor in my country I found was like 7k
They’ve certainly gone up in value in the UK since this video too, but for some strange reason Mercedes are never very loved here so prices aren’t as high as most countries!
in Australia, where did you source parts from? need a delivery
@Stav-Tech
Hey man, awesome build !
Can you please send me links to the parts you've used ? thinking about starting a similar project
K24 fz manual swap project here it comes
thank you for this video! great info. I am looking into modding my w202 too. Do you still remember where you had that solid pulley made?
This car is pretty awesome sadly we never got any w202 with a manual, otherwise these would have been a lot more popular. The only real option is swapping a manual setup from an SLK
Hello, love your C230 mods! I ordered a 70mm pulley from Hungry. I have the stock crank pulley. I will be doing no drifting or racing, will I need to have my ECU adjusted? The manufacturer suggested a resistor to be installed to keep the voltage under 5 volts. What is your opinion? Thanks.
Mate give me a suggestion, im leaving the jdm cars for their crazy prices of everything and i was thinking on getting an old rwd mercs, but i dont know anything about them.
Im torn and undecided between the w202 and w208, both with the m111 that will be turbocharged. I really love the style of the w208 but it scare me that there are any info or guide on the internet and there is nearly no aftermarket at all. Also i dont know if it's an electronic gremlin since it's newer. No one seems to have tuned it on youtube.
Meanwhile i see plenty of video, guides and aftermarket about the w202.
I saw you had both, what is your humble suggestion? In my country no one has tuned them and even my professional tuner friends knows absolutely nothing.
Hi. Can you share where did you buy the pulleys?
FLÁVIO MARQUES I don’t remember the company, but i found them on eBay and I think the country they were from was Hungary
c200k uses a bigger pulley from factory
@@c19975 ayyyyyyyyy you're right! Same hp, less displacement -> same 193hp
I got an e36 328is, ended up putting that in the garage to convert to m3 over time and now I beat the crap out of my 99 c230k lol. dont feel as bad and just as fun. man does the paint suck on these things though.
Hey!
That is a really nice and simple build I like it. Can I ask what is the diameter of the supercharger's pulley?
Thank you
i cant find the crank puly kit, can u leave a link for it? and if possible for the other pully
Link to all the parts and price to modify it your self if possible. I would really appreciate it if you could. Awesome video.
Thank you
its best car ever i have one engine its perfect 550.000 km no problems never open engine original head gasket
trpan smrdic yep, brilliant cars! Even when abuse them really hard like this they are no problems
Not my experience, After wet drift sessions and winter drifting it breaks like every other week. But it's possible, that i just go to hard lol
Nice you got a tuning kit to screen on to the crank shaft that's nice buddy. And it actually worked?
To remove the ABS/any of the factory ESP or similar. Is it just a case of pulling the fuses or switching stuff off and it won't effect the engine performance? Pressume so based on this way this moves!!
I have a 2005 (automatic) and was wondering what I could do to extract a little more fun - glad to see somebody modding a non-amg =)
if its a Kompressor 1.8 or 2.0 M271, you can put a smaller supercharger pulley, remove the stock supercharger baffle/silencer, add a cold air intake and if you really want some power add custom supercharger piping. With these things IATs will be very high so a bigger intercooler is recommended. Btw these will work on M111s and M271s and seeing as you have a 2005 im guessing its an M271 if not a V6. Good luck man and just reply to this comment if you have any questions, i waste too much of my freetime on these cars ;)
@@samurboi8007 How much boost can the stock ecu adjust to in a m111 230 w202 would u say
@@woapaggin6803 ive seen people run 7psi with no issues but im not sure if ive seem 10+. I feel like you would get breaking up at that point but even 7psi is good pressure
@@woapaggin6803 then again since you have the older ecu it wouldnt adjust as well as a siemens so standalone may be the way to go with a 202
Is this 185mm or 192mm pulley ? And what do you think - which one is better ?
Salut tu a acheter ou les Silentbloc powerflex ?
Like the music playing. Mind sharing the track & artist name
Great work man! I have a 97 c230 kompressor. What great cars! And mad respect to you for building one into a drift weapon? Can I ask how did the car behave with the solid non clutched pulley? Obviously there's the bypass valve at the air box also did you just plug the bypass at the boost pipe? Im looking at it as a potential mod.
There is no such thing as a 97 kompressor...they made them from late 98 to 2001 in the w202 models
@@shuruff904 No, w202 was made 1995 to 2000 as both 200 Kompressor and 230 Kompressor.
bought myself a cheap w203k to compliment my 202. Interesting issue, i seem to be saturating the maf (169g/s) now i have a smaller sc pulley and boosting at roughly 7-8 psi. any advice/idea on what maf sensor to replace the stock unit with so i dont lean the shit out of it? btw this video was most of my inspiration to do this ahaha
W203s run different setups with smaller supercharger I think so not sure what you can do.
No changing of the maf will stop it leaning out as a larger one will be leaning it out too unless you mapped it to suit.
How did you disrestrict the supercharger inlet?
What was the 0-60mph??
What tire size did you use? I want this fitment its so good
Building a 2000 c230 kompressor where do you think I should start ? It’s bone stock. I’ll upload videos of the progress ??
What boost did u make?if IT s over 0.85 how u trick maff?i have 2 pulleys crank+komp make 0.9 boost but don t know how can i trick cuz i entry în timp mode,pulleys from kompressor it is from ungary
In the clip at 1:43, what is making the supercharger have such a loud wine? Is it just getting rid of the mesh and adding an air filter? Or do I need to add a bigger crank pully to make the supercharger wine louder? On my account I have videos of my c230 kompressor and I need to make my supercharger louder, as well as add power. Please help me if you see this. My car looks esthetically good, now its time for more power!!
Big cone filter and the mesh, stock boost is still like that.
Gets even louder with more of course, and once change clutched s/c pulley to a solid one it’s really crazy, kinda annoying, but cool.
But yeah, big cone filter is main one!
@@StavTech thank you so much for the quick response! I’ll let you know if I have any trouble!
I have a c280 v6 and want to build it. Should I swap the engine or granny for and oem
I love your work man!! Saw your other videos too..I have an e420 w210 and I want to turbocharge or supercharge it next year..any advice/ideas?
The „wandlerautomatik“ can be very slow at shifting so you might have to get another automatic transmission specially when you want to drift
Did you attach the heat gauge to the intake manifold?
Do you have any additional information on those wheels? I would love to find a set for my 1999 C230K. Thanks
They are OEM 15in Mercedes steel wheels banded to 9.5in wide
@@StavTech Thank you, I don’t think we can get those steel wheels here in the states but the search is on! Thanks for the quick reply!
@@KRTLyfe a lot of C Class and E class have them as the spare wheel even if the car comes with alloy wheels as standard, so that can be one way.
Here it was an option for the very lowest models and also an option as the winter wheels to fit so you don’t mess up your alloys in the snow and ice etc.
They have Mercedes printed on the wheels etc.
On eBay over here they are very cheap and common from Mercedes breakers etc
@@StavTech Thanks for the extra information! Those wheels you have are so 🔥🔥🔥🔥!!!!!
@@StavTech The spare wheel we got over here in the States is a 6 spoke alloy. It is cool but not any where as cool as those steel wheels!
dude, is it necessary to do anything in ecu after these operations? for example afr or powering up the fuel pump or changing the injectors
Not for what you see in this video, no. Nothing
@@StavTech thank you. How many wheels give power on average?I did the other stages I have to add the intercooler and exhaust left
Loving all your stuff mate it's proper car shit lol an let me guess, infin......y did your exhaust? 😑
Paste86 correct! Got my money back at least. Clowns
@@StavTech yea I had the same issues, no mandrel bends, mild steel up to the rear box.. crazy how they get away with it lol anyways keep up the good work mate
Cool build. Honestly surprised the stock SC can take all that abuse.
NsKrewtable Super strong, never had an issue on this or any of the others I’ve had
@@StavTech Awesome. How were you able to get the clutch-less pulley made? What were the advantages going that route, rather than getting an aftermarket pulley?
What engine does your 230 have??? I'm trying to max out hp cheaply on my 02 C230 for drifting
M111 c230 kompressor
Did you delete the kompressor bypass valve? My ecu is faulty keeping the sc clutch engaged thought i could ignore it only the bypass valve is staying open so no boost
No. That creates big boost spikes which will just pop boost pipes off etc
@StavTech I've a new transistor coming for the ecu. Hopefully, it sorts the problem
how much hp were you getting ?
Hi mate i currently have a 2.6 straight 6. What mods would you recommend
A turbo. Those engines are amazing when boosted
I got my 2000 c230 k for $1000 usd with 144XXX miles only needed 50 bucks to run mint
Where can I get the 60mm pulley?
can you post link where you can get this crank pulley ??
Do you think w202 need more steering angle like bmw's? Or its just fine?
They have absolutely huge steering angle as standard.
Honestly, if anyone drives a W202 and then says they need more angle, they just need to learn to drive better lol
Shit man I've been looking for some kind of stuff I could do for my car because it deserves it. I got it in a good deal and it was my first daily and it's been sitting around for a bit and still runs good. But it's been lagging lately and I needed to find some kind of video that shows me things that open air flow and shit like that because I can't find anything for my car anywhere online. I can't even find a manual transmission or parts anywhere in America really.
Hi, back in the days have u ever had some problems with rear wheel bearing? I have a ‘97 c200k sitting as low as yours and it keeps brake rear wheel bearings after 40/50 kilometers (2/3 days after installing). Can u figure out why? The car have 286k km but the wheel bearing are new, all polyurethane bushing, welded diff, fk coilovers. If u have some advice i’m thankful
No never. I’ve had many of these cars and never had wheel bearing issues
@@StavTech thank you for your answer
Any guess on how much power you gained by your mods?
I have a Chrysler Crossfire with M112 V6 320 engine. It has a tune and exhaust mod. I wonder if your C230 K would have more or less poewer?
Thanks
300 or so going by the performance times.
So basically you’ve reached custom turbo power level without the turbo conversion?
@@richardsmith8289 tbf if i turbocharged it id be expecting massively more than 300
Hey, what anti roll bars have You used?
Stock on this one
did you do anything with the supercharger bypass valve? I see you did a ram air intake, did you just leave the bypass valve hanging and connector still connected, or tac weld the flap maybe? since you're basically always running boost with no clutch anyways.
Didn’t modify the bypass at all.
@@StavTech www.stern-garage.com/sonderanfertigungen/ is this the website you bought the supercharger pulley on? if so considering im in the us was there any other 3rd party website you bought it off? this seems like the best option however i dont believe i can order it directly through them.
@@brentguillou3488 I got it from eBay. Company was based in Hungary or somewhere, but can’t remember more than that
@@StavTech i got the pulley finally, did you end up wiring in a resistor with the oem clutched wiring or just left it off all together, If so what type of resistor did you use? 75mm is due in 2 weeks I cant wait, gonna throw on bc racing coil overs just need to find someone willing to do full custom exhaust that wont fuck me over ;) or do it myself.
@@brentguillou3488 no resistor, I left the magnet still plugged in and cable tied to the inner wing. Easy. You’ll see what I mean once you remove it all
Did your stock SC pulley was clutch type? I have a w202 2.0 kompressor with clutch type SC pulley and the aftermarket ones says its for Red top m111 only. Can i delete the stock clutch type pulley with aftermarket ones without changing anything else?
Yea stock pulley was clutched like all M62 supercharger M111s are when standard.
Later M111s have the smaller M45 supercharger and they are not clutched. Totally different setup.
@@StavTech Thanks!
hi does welded lasts longer, your tips on welded diff, if say no to welded diff, what would be alternate
No and it runs bad on daily,while parking or on tight turns,pisses me off every time...but if my car wasn't for drift I said open diff + you can still drift with that easy!
Have you had any problems with the head gasket?
No
Hey mate do you happen to know the company that made the fixed pulley for you?
Stern Garage in germany
Did you use coilovers or just lowering springs?
Originally it was stock everything with cut springs, and it worked great. Then went to uprated shocks and lowering springs, though we cut a coil out to make them the same height as before
what size of those steelies?
from the states! what type of transmission would i use if i were to manuel swap it?
From what I understand you guys didn’t get manual ones of these? Have you got the manual RWD Mercedes Sprinter vans over there? As if I remember rightly all the Mercedes manual boxes are very similar
If not then getting a manual from Europe would be needed I guess?
How u deal w/ handbreak... it's foot mounted on this car!!
Simple. Same as on all my cars. Don't use it and just drift properly.
@@StavTech haha love it, but all the cool kids have one!
Hey, have you done anything with angle?
Nobody needs more angle on a W202. If someone needs more angle than they have as standard then they should practice more
Yo! I’m thinking about building this powertrain in a W201 190E chassis. Would you know anything about the swap as far as what’s compatible from chassis to chassis? Just gathering information before I dive in and buy parts
Did you ever get this sorted?
@@Frankie_Freedom
Man I wish. I am too poor to build something like that anytime soon 😂
Do you still have this car as of today?
No. Last time I saw it it was on a boat to the Isle Of Man with the new owner
Could you give the contacts of whom made you the custom pulley?
try Stern Garage
Hello! Could you please share specs for the pulley and subframe stuff. Thanks
10k??? Where do u live man here i can get one for 1.2k
76mm pulley?!?
Can we make that engine turbo?
Yes
Stock knuckles and control arms?
Yes. No need for anything better on 99% of cars until way beyond this. Just learn to drive
ebay link or name ?
Does this car has TSC or ESP? How u kill them off
focal polyglass just pull the fuse out the ABS module
i need this...
What rims are the silver ones?
Oe Mercedes’ steel rims banded to be much wider
Is there any angle kit for these ?
If you need an angle kit for these you don’t need an angle kit, you need to learn to drift better
@@StavTech why being mean. i just want to get the crazy entries, I know how to drift
@@c0r0lla29 not being mean, it’s fact. These have tons of lock. And for crazy entries you don’t need a ton of lock anyhow
@@StavTech i did a lot of drifting with stock angle on e36. They feel awesome but lack a lot of angle. I would like to make some competition with it later so do you consider this platform a good option for that purpose ?
@@c0r0lla29 this has got a ton more angle than a E36. And competition suitability totally depends on the level you talking about.
Are the manual variants exclusive to eu?
I have no idea
in aus we have them too but they are little pricey like 6-9k. but other variants like the c220 are a bit cheaper and also have manual but the head gasket is probably half dead
6:23 OK lol
Can you email
Pics of your intake set up?
Is this car still alive ??
I think so. Last time I heard it lives on the Isle Of Man 🇮🇲
@@StavTech I might finally be going to look at one aha. Any major places I should look?
I love how unconventional you are ha ha. Just the way I like it. Will be learning more from you ha ha. Don’t think we got the C230 in that shape, only the 180 and 200 from what I can remember, any main differences?
If your country got that shape C200 Kompressor it’s very similar and also just as tunable.
If you mean the later shape cars with the 180 and 200 kompressors, that’s a different engine but still can be tuned in similar ways
@@StavTech ah ok cool. Thanks.
Just found something that sounds more interesting, w202 C280. Has the m104 which can work with a turbo pretty well. Just need to be able to tune it😬
too bad c230 kompressor is still expensive here, c180 is lot cheaper but i dont think it would drift nearly the same
Here they seem to have gone up in price since this video, but they were certainly cheap then.
THIS FOR 1000 QUIDS ?????????