It's wonderful to see a company having the guts to compete with Matterport. You're spot on with the primary challenge being their closed ecosystem. Of course, since this system is primarily designed to compete with Matterport, it makes sense that they didn't focus on zenith an nadir capture nor some sort of override to include moving objects (people, cars, etc). So what I would really have liked to see as part of the marketing is the language of 'still spaces cylindrical capture'. It would just be a bit more accurate & truthful. But hey, the price and business model they provide should be fantastic for real estate shooters. Since I mostly still do commercial environments with people in it (sometimes staged), I'm hoping they will consider leveraging their current understanding of the market to produce a system that would compete with what I produce with my standard rig. You're 100% correct Hugh when talking about the time-cost of stitching. Thanks again for providing excellent reviews with very fair comparisons in a context that makes sense to both the masses and pros.
I am so glad you find it helpful. Your comment is very fair and really hope they can outgrow Matterport and provide feature that is not there but badly needed to "improve" the virtual tour landscape and end clients experience. If you mean override with like keyed green screen 2D footage in a cube map to provide moving people in the still 360 photo - the "screen" feature is a really good first step to demo the possibility and the 3D Geo is share amount all the frames. I think if they provide ChomaKey feature like 3DVista - it will be a hybrid dynamic virtual tour. They are also working on 3D object inserts and even NeRFs scan insert. Since we do have correct 3d representation - I think insert Greenscreen that can be "behind" object will be really cool - smart way to use the depth map. We are talking about a web-base Unreal Engine at that point but everything is possible lol.
@@hughhou I looked over their website, but there still seems to be a whole lot of needing credits, paying for the AI conversions, annual fees, etc. Yes, it does look much more reasonable than what Matterport charges, but that's a low, low bar. Realsee charges you for downloading your own images? We need to get beyond this nonsense. I completely understand the need to charge for hosting, but access to one's own photos and software to convert said images should be accessible (one-time fee), rather than gatekept behind a constant paywall. Definitely glad to see competition, however.
Yes. The future of virtual tour will be very interesting. We should see more innovation coming as cheaper LiDAR 3D Scanner coming into the market and with AI computer-vision assist to fill the hole like Gussian Splatting and NeRFs like NVIDIA Instant-NGP
I was going to buy the Matterport 3 but stumbled across this video. I would buy this hands down over Matterport. My only concern is the lack of reviews or articles about this camera, even on Reddit which is surprising giving it was released in 2021. Same thing on social media, there are plenty of post but no comments or questions from any area Real Estate agents or photographers in their posts. Is this a red flag or are they just super new to the market. Just trying to get the scoop before I nail down a purchase. Great review, this tech is next level and I like the credit system, doll house + blue print nav, downloadable, AI renovations, and live chat - Fire! Your rock!
Thank you! This camera is pretty new, the model release the day this video launch. I will try their platform first and give it a run to see if you like it. The camera itself is solid but you need to figure out if you like their software package first. It is similar to Matterport but it is still NOT matterport.
Thanks for the video! I am an architect, specialised in Digital Twins and BIM and I am using a Focus Faro S for creating the point clouds. I was considering buying a Matterport because it is much cheaper than the Faro, but I found out, that the Matterports point clouds are really bad. The Galois instead looks pretty neat and I will give it a try!
Everything seems tempting, but there are many questions about what can still be done. Is 16GB of memory enough when working with hotels where there are more than 200 points? Is it possible to do it in 3dVista, to make it personalized for a hotel as a drop-down menu? Is it possible to download the finished tour and host it somewhere else or if the hotel owner wants to host it on his website?
Top as always. Cool new platform and cool features, very good for real estate but less for historical places where floors and ceilings are usually part of the beauties, here zenith and nadir are not covered. I still prefer shooting manual DSLR, slow workflow but more control and very high resolution. Also, I'm crazy enough to try developing my own app\platform\workflow LOL About resolution is true, we need more for zooming but 16K is not that high if we try to match 1:1 pixel from image and our display resolution. A 360 image is displayed on screen by a special projection on a 3D cube, 6 faces, every face is for a single direction, front, rear, left, right, top, bottom. A single 360 image contains all pixel for all direction so 16K are not for only one direction. If you think a cube face as a single monitor... well, you need 6x total monitor resolution. In reality less because cubefaces are squares and monitor rettangles, but you have the idea. So, a 16K 360 image looks good on a 4K display, if you zoom you start blurring.
Yes, that is high high end area lol. If that is the case, I bust out my Mecha C2 and expensive canon lens. Agree the top and bottom. Hirsorical project usually pay more as well so we can afford to go all out and 3DVista it.
Serious question. I’ve encountered clients who simply won’t keep their cats aside during a Matterport scan. How does realsee handle the scan with moving objects like people and cars and cats?
This is a compelling video! Makes me want to consider a virtual tour business. I am so impressed about the efficiency and easy path to profit platform. Hmmmm....
Hey Hugh, great video! A question: do you know if it's possible to download the 3d model/dollhouse edit in 3rd party software and then reupload it to Realsee's platform? I use Matterport and atm it's only possible to download (and pay), for the model. Not reupload the cleaned model.
Thank you, will be watching the follow ups. Was wondering if there's any downloadable GTLB samples from different cameras to see how this could look in 3DV. Q: Is the vertical viewing limitation also for full-360 one shot cameras like Z1? Does the iphone holder camera rig use the phone's lidar as well?
No, that is only for the Galois. Z1 or Insta360 camera you do get full 360 video. I think (not back by officials) is the limitation of the lens and sensor combo. They want the best image without using the edge of the lens (so less chromatic abberation and lens distortion blur). To do that, with larger sensor coverage, you have to give up FOV. They take 5 shots while matterport pro 3 only take 4 to create full 360. This should tell me the logic behind the design. Better focus the pixel on people do look at instead of area that people barely look at.
The big thing is it roll over instead of expire in a year like Matterport. Also big AI updates are coming on this - I will have a new tutorial on this feature I wish matterport has.
Haha thank you! I wish I can get their next gen LiDAR scaner - they are pumping out of LiDAR tech like crazy. AI assisted 3D scanning is going to be big next year with NeRF and all new techs
Nooooo I just got the pro3!! Would’ve definitely bought this if you made this video a month ago!! The pro3 is a game changer but I love the AI mock ups of this galois!
@@hughhou I’m not a fan of their hosting plans Feels like a robbery But more than that the extractable 16k images and their staging features of realsee is something exciting Might just get their mobile version Could you please review mobile options to create 360 photos such as the matterport axis and the realsee G1
I wish Xphase make a new camera - that is still the most easy to use 16K camera that capture crazy sharp visual. But it stop working for me recently. Anyone know Xphase is making a new camera? I hope so.
Hi Hugh, I know you did the speed test and found that it takes 25s to scan but with my own test on the Galois from start 1st scan to finishing 2nd scan it takes 1.45 minutes.. It takes nearly 50 seconds to do 1 scan!! Are you experiencing similar slow scans? Also I am finding that once the tour is finished, the upload speed is very long, and you cannot leave the app.. not too practical if you received a call.. what's your though on that? Thanks
Hey Hugh, I'm not able to explore Realsee's pre-recorded samples projetcs in my VR headset (Quest 2). Can you please tell if I'm doing something incorrectly or they don't this yet like matterport?
In VR for Meta Quest - they DO NOT support it yet. They aware of the problem as I also point it out to them and they are working on it. They only support PICO NEO 4 for now. Not HTC or Meta or even WebXR.
First, thanks for the video, I was able to get to know a new platform Second, in the tests I did (I say this to see if anyone else had the same problem) when walking around the house, Galois shows a greater lag than Matterport, has anyone noticed this? It seems that the Galois server is slower, or because it is in China and Matterport uses this, it can make it slower due to lag.
We are also considering buying this cam. We create everything in 3D Vista and will continue to do so. Because Realsee also only offers a cloud solution. Do you get the panoramas for free, or do you have to pay extra? It would also be interesting to see what the 3D models that you can download look like. Because we also use them in 3DVISTA. Can you possibly provide a inside and outside model for testing? It would be good to have trees 😊
@@hughhou The free demos are scanned very poorly. The distances between the individual points are too large. You cannot create a reasonable 3D model from this. We only work with 3DVISTA because cloud is not an option, especially not a cloud in China 😁
It seems to be (best check the figures and small print yourself) that the cheapest Realsee option, if using 3dvista and external hosting, is their Starter package ($129 pa) which has a quota of 2 tour downloads after which it's $10 per download. So, if you have 100 tours per year, the total cost is $1109 pa ($92 pm). To me, it's a shame to spend so much on the camera and then to have to pay for the downloads. Call me old-fashioned but I like to feel the photos are mine and free and I'd be happy to take them directly from the camera.
That's actually an excellent question! I guess the answer is no. Everything has to be a subscription service these days (and let's be honest, that's what their credits system really is) and everyone goes along with it, no questions asked. You will own nothing and you will be happy.
Thanks Hugh for this detailed review and I look forward to any more that you do on this camera. I was considering iGuide as an alternative to Matterport for construction site recording due to Matterport and the walled system. The iGuide and the Theta Z1 will never compete with Realsee or Matterport for quality but the floorplan and measurements look good and worksites need data and don't have to look "Pretty". But am confused with the Realsee pricing and ownership of recorded data. Hugh or anyone please, Do we own the data to use and host as we want or does it have to be hosted on Realsee as per Matterport and their closed system? Will rewatch you video again, thanks for doing.
Just like Matterport, you can download most of your data and move it off platform. It cost Credit in Realsee but each plan come with free credit (like 20 location per year). Matterport is cost per download. Realsee you do own your own data as most of the stuffs can be download. But the tour data not sure it can be host on different server. I am not a server guy so this will need Realsee to answer how to go about it. How to host 3D data if not with platform like Realsee or Matterport is beyond me. If you know what file format you need you can email realsee and ask them if it is supported. They usually build service based on their clients requests.
Hi Hough, thanks for answering my last question, just one more: Is there something like a private google streetview to self host, so I can walk through my stereoscopic 360 images like on google maps but 3D and selfhosted?
That is basically a Virtual Tour - GSV is just a simplify virtual tour. You can do it with 3DVista which support 3D 360 video like the Pro 2 you have. Big learning curve I don't even teach that on my channel publicly as it will lose my viewers immediately.
@@hughhou Oh wow harder than Mystika VR? I already got lost on that tutorial 😅🙈. Doesn't it automatically make a 3D video with 5fps and gps metadata to a connected path with a map? Or would I have to do a ton manually? I do not need labels or all that fancy stuff - just google maps but in 3D (stereoscopic 360) and out of my own 360 videos
Hi Hough! :) I have another question: How can I remove parts of my microphone for 3D360 videos so e.g. like with photoshop but for videos... (dead cat of the h3vr mounted on top of the pro2, yes that's in my case the best spot)
Oh yes, this is the tutorial dedicated for it: ua-cam.com/video/KSpML98x-6c/v-deo.html - I also has older version in Adobe system: ua-cam.com/video/5jpzS7JcxrI/v-deo.html or this ua-cam.com/video/KZZn-jkJUfQ/v-deo.html
I just played with the app and am flashed. The fact that nadir and Zenith are also blurred when using an Insta 360 or similar is still unattractive. But that is also the only thing I have to criticize. Thank you very much for the great video.
Not yet. But this is the next step. I need to figure out a point cloud optimization workflow. That is more on me figure out than them. My unreal knowledge is pretty limited lol
Using these laser, scanner camera hybrids to create models that can be used for 6DOF would be a huge advantage! I, too, am interested on working on a parent cloud workflow to create models I can use with 3D Vista and their new 6DOF option.
Thnx for making this video, very interesting Tek. I sure hope that you can use the realsee software to export a mesh model instead of a point mesh. In the case of a pointcloud:, converting the point cloud into a mesh, perhaps using "cloudcompare" is a good starting point. It is opensource and has a good track record. Convert smaller chunks at one time because of the texture resolution limit. The resulting high density mesh could be imported in blender, and you can use symplygon to reduce this mesh to a lightweight size. Symplygon has some new features in the form of "High-density mesh reduction" Also the re-meshing features are very helpful and can save you a lot of time. I would love to give it a shot! greets rob , @@hughhou
Thx for this video. I would guess that this kind of services will start popping up like mushrooms in the next years, with alle the development happend recently like Gaussian Splatting. People can just take videos of their rooms. Also hardware like Quest3 or Apples Vision Pro could be perfect for recoding the data and direclty see the results in 3D. Why should I use a camera paththrough mode all the time, if I have my environment in 3D anyway X-)
Indeed! Gaussian Splatting is gonna change the industry but LiDAR is gonna help the capture of Gaussian or NeRF - the better the LiDAR the more accurate is the model - so all tech are still relevant:)
Thanks for the review, Hugh! One thing that bothered me is the comparison between the Galois and Sony A1. I have a hard time believing the Sony A1 panos would look that bad. It felt like they were made to look bad by not enabling lens correction and defringing so as to make the Galois look better. I might be totally wrong, but the comparison didn't fill me with confidence.
Yes there is no chromatic abberation removal on SONY - I basically drop the images into PTGui and stitch them out. The CA can be further removal using Lightroom and AI (Lumar Neo is what we use) to achieve almost no CA result. But that is still a long added workflow which I usually just drop the SONY RAW directly in PTGui for large volume of photos. Please note, the SONY only have 4 shot on horizon - so more of the edge of the lens is used. It will further remove CA if I use 5 or usually 6 turns. The resolution in 4 turns is 14K - which is lower than 16K. To scale the SONY up to match 16K - it does look soft. This is not AI upscale. I am just trying to match 16K to 16K. Maybe a 8 to 15mm Canon Lens will have sharper result - but this is the result straight out of my camera. SONY has a lot latitude so we can certainly make them look great in post - but straight out of camera, it is like that. I did not make them look bad, but I did not make them look good with post magic neither.
Further explain the 14K vs 16K issue, you also see an very obvious sharper result in Xphase Pro X2 vs SONY 4 turns. Less fisheye we use, sharper result we get. BUT does not mean BETTER image. As I pointed out, SONY capture RAW with extremely low noise (to no noise), so with decent post work, it will def have BETTER color and better "polish" look. I never post an unpolished SONY photo. But to have fair comparison - I want to remove as much objective works I do to the photo as possible to keep it fair straight out of camera result.
@@hughhou Sure. On the other hand, the Galois image is improved out of the box. So at least applying basic presets on the Sony import I think would be a more fair comparison. Or use the Sony JPG versions instead, not the RAWs.
Thanks so much for your help Hough! For your last answer: @hughhou Oh wow harder than Mystika VR? I already got lost on that tutorial 😅🙈. Doesn't it automatically make a 3D video with 5fps and gps metadata to a connected path with a map? Or would I have to do a ton manually? I do not need labels or all that fancy stuff - just google maps but in 3D (stereoscopic 360) and out of my own 360 videos
@@hughhou Thank you! :) Programming Skill depends on the amount / time it needs. I studied conputer science so that would'nt be a problem in general. For what do I need to programm in 3DVista?
Where is your showcase in Quest 3? If you are going to export it - I will suggest other solution. It can but really not easy. Better just capture with Quest 3 in mind for now
I'm really considering this now. Can the point cloud files be exported out without going through RealSee software or server ? How does this compare with Leica BLK360 ?
Realsee - I am doing my best hehe. I am a technologist and creator - not a language expert. But one thing I can promise: the best, insight content on this channel that is original and probably copied by many other creators :)
It's wonderful to see a company having the guts to compete with Matterport. You're spot on with the primary challenge being their closed ecosystem. Of course, since this system is primarily designed to compete with Matterport, it makes sense that they didn't focus on zenith an nadir capture nor some sort of override to include moving objects (people, cars, etc). So what I would really have liked to see as part of the marketing is the language of 'still spaces cylindrical capture'. It would just be a bit more accurate & truthful.
But hey, the price and business model they provide should be fantastic for real estate shooters. Since I mostly still do commercial environments with people in it (sometimes staged), I'm hoping they will consider leveraging their current understanding of the market to produce a system that would compete with what I produce with my standard rig. You're 100% correct Hugh when talking about the time-cost of stitching.
Thanks again for providing excellent reviews with very fair comparisons in a context that makes sense to both the masses and pros.
I am so glad you find it helpful. Your comment is very fair and really hope they can outgrow Matterport and provide feature that is not there but badly needed to "improve" the virtual tour landscape and end clients experience. If you mean override with like keyed green screen 2D footage in a cube map to provide moving people in the still 360 photo - the "screen" feature is a really good first step to demo the possibility and the 3D Geo is share amount all the frames. I think if they provide ChomaKey feature like 3DVista - it will be a hybrid dynamic virtual tour. They are also working on 3D object inserts and even NeRFs scan insert. Since we do have correct 3d representation - I think insert Greenscreen that can be "behind" object will be really cool - smart way to use the depth map. We are talking about a web-base Unreal Engine at that point but everything is possible lol.
@@hughhou I looked over their website, but there still seems to be a whole lot of needing credits, paying for the AI conversions, annual fees, etc. Yes, it does look much more reasonable than what Matterport charges, but that's a low, low bar. Realsee charges you for downloading your own images? We need to get beyond this nonsense. I completely understand the need to charge for hosting, but access to one's own photos and software to convert said images should be accessible (one-time fee), rather than gatekept behind a constant paywall. Definitely glad to see competition, however.
Finally, a competent competitor to matterport who can shake things up a bit
Yes. The future of virtual tour will be very interesting. We should see more innovation coming as cheaper LiDAR 3D Scanner coming into the market and with AI computer-vision assist to fill the hole like Gussian Splatting and NeRFs like NVIDIA Instant-NGP
I was going to buy the Matterport 3 but stumbled across this video. I would buy this hands down over Matterport. My only concern is the lack of reviews or articles about this camera, even on Reddit which is surprising giving it was released in 2021. Same thing on social media, there are plenty of post but no comments or questions from any area Real Estate agents or photographers in their posts. Is this a red flag or are they just super new to the market. Just trying to get the scoop before I nail down a purchase. Great review, this tech is next level and I like the credit system, doll house + blue print nav, downloadable, AI renovations, and live chat - Fire! Your rock!
Thank you! This camera is pretty new, the model release the day this video launch. I will try their platform first and give it a run to see if you like it. The camera itself is solid but you need to figure out if you like their software package first. It is similar to Matterport but it is still NOT matterport.
Thanks for the video! I am an architect, specialised in Digital Twins and BIM and I am using a Focus Faro S for creating the point clouds. I was considering buying a Matterport because it is much cheaper than the Faro, but I found out, that the Matterports point clouds are really bad. The Galois instead looks pretty neat and I will give it a try!
It's nice to see more players. Thank you for the great presentation, Hugh.
My pleasure!
Everything seems tempting, but there are many questions about what can still be done. Is 16GB of memory enough when working with hotels where there are more than 200 points? Is it possible to do it in 3dVista, to make it personalized for a hotel as a drop-down menu?
Is it possible to download the finished tour and host it somewhere else or if the hotel owner wants to host it on his website?
Now that is something I'd also like to know
My God, Realsee made a 3D model of the apartment from panoramic photos. No need to create hotspots for the transition. This is very cool!
Yes the power of AI and LiDar :)
That's the magic, that without lidar! I added panoramic photos from Z1 and that's it.@@hughhou
Top as always. Cool new platform and cool features, very good for real estate but less for historical places where floors and ceilings are usually part of the beauties, here zenith and nadir are not covered.
I still prefer shooting manual DSLR, slow workflow but more control and very high resolution. Also, I'm crazy enough to try developing my own app\platform\workflow LOL
About resolution is true, we need more for zooming but 16K is not that high if we try to match 1:1 pixel from image and our display resolution.
A 360 image is displayed on screen by a special projection on a 3D cube, 6 faces, every face is for a single direction, front, rear, left, right, top, bottom.
A single 360 image contains all pixel for all direction so 16K are not for only one direction.
If you think a cube face as a single monitor... well, you need 6x total monitor resolution. In reality less because cubefaces are squares and monitor rettangles, but you have the idea.
So, a 16K 360 image looks good on a 4K display, if you zoom you start blurring.
Yes, that is high high end area lol. If that is the case, I bust out my Mecha C2 and expensive canon lens. Agree the top and bottom. Hirsorical project usually pay more as well so we can afford to go all out and 3DVista it.
Serious question. I’ve encountered clients who simply won’t keep their cats aside during a Matterport scan. How does realsee handle the scan with moving objects like people and cars and cats?
Same as Matterport - no way to avoid them lol. But the coming up touch up feature can let you download and AI remove them in photoshop :)
Yes‼️ This is a great option 👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻 Thank you for all you do 👍🏻
Our pleasure!
This is a compelling video! Makes me want to consider a virtual tour business. I am so impressed about the efficiency and easy path to profit platform. Hmmmm....
It is a very profitable industry to get in especially with VR and Apple Vision Pro. Not easy tho and a lot to learn :)
Way underrated video. You seem like my kind of guy, simpatico. Subscribed.
I appreciate that! Thank you for the subs!!
Hey Hugh, great video! A question: do you know if it's possible to download the 3d model/dollhouse edit in 3rd party software and then reupload it to Realsee's platform? I use Matterport and atm it's only possible to download (and pay), for the model. Not reupload the cleaned model.
Thanks for the video, and it made me realize that choosing realsee was the right decision😏
Thank you, will be watching the follow ups. Was wondering if there's any downloadable GTLB samples from different cameras to see how this could look in 3DV. Q: Is the vertical viewing limitation also for full-360 one shot cameras like Z1? Does the iphone holder camera rig use the phone's lidar as well?
No, that is only for the Galois. Z1 or Insta360 camera you do get full 360 video. I think (not back by officials) is the limitation of the lens and sensor combo. They want the best image without using the edge of the lens (so less chromatic abberation and lens distortion blur). To do that, with larger sensor coverage, you have to give up FOV. They take 5 shots while matterport pro 3 only take 4 to create full 360. This should tell me the logic behind the design. Better focus the pixel on people do look at instead of area that people barely look at.
@@hughhou understood. What about iphone use? have you tried this in comparison yet? (and do you get a full sphere there?)
Whoa! Can't wait to see those amazing 3D models on our 3D•AI displays :)
Yes, need to figure out a way to make them smaller and manageable tho
good video, I don't quite understand the credit system, is it like arktiv Spaces at matterport or how should I understand it? 😅
The big thing is it roll over instead of expire in a year like Matterport. Also big AI updates are coming on this - I will have a new tutorial on this feature I wish matterport has.
Hey I was wondering if you can compare Realsee vs giraffe360 vs mattaport, thanks
You said that I can bring my own models, how can I make that? I've been trying but that partt was kinda not clear.
Excellent review my friend. This is super promising! I’m looking forward to see more of your tutorials :-)
More to come!
Great to see unique content like this, Hugh. It's like Back to the Future 2.
Haha thank you! I wish I can get their next gen LiDAR scaner - they are pumping out of LiDAR tech like crazy. AI assisted 3D scanning is going to be big next year with NeRF and all new techs
The Realsee quality is good
Glad you think so :)
Nooooo I just got the pro3!! Would’ve definitely bought this if you made this video a month ago!!
The pro3 is a game changer but I love the AI mock ups of this galois!
Lol, if you already paid for Matterport, The Pro 3 is still a very good camera.
@@hughhou I’m not a fan of their hosting plans
Feels like a robbery
But more than that the extractable 16k images and their staging features of realsee is something exciting
Might just get their mobile version
Could you please review mobile options to create 360 photos such as the matterport axis and the realsee G1
@@Virtualeyesae I want to know too
Dear Hugh, very interesting info as always.
I miss your reviews on the Xphase X2 for 1 action shot ...
Thank you so much and a hug
I wish Xphase make a new camera - that is still the most easy to use 16K camera that capture crazy sharp visual. But it stop working for me recently. Anyone know Xphase is making a new camera? I hope so.
Hi Hugh, I know you did the speed test and found that it takes 25s to scan but with my own test on the Galois from start 1st scan to finishing 2nd scan it takes 1.45 minutes.. It takes nearly 50 seconds to do 1 scan!!
Are you experiencing similar slow scans? Also I am finding that once the tour is finished, the upload speed is very long, and you cannot leave the app.. not too practical if you received a call.. what's your though on that?
Thanks
How does it perform when taking panoramic photos indoors in bright light?
It does pretty good :) The example has a big glass door and it is in very bright light
Hey Hugh, I'm not able to explore Realsee's pre-recorded samples projetcs in my VR headset (Quest 2). Can you please tell if I'm doing something incorrectly or they don't this yet like matterport?
In VR for Meta Quest - they DO NOT support it yet. They aware of the problem as I also point it out to them and they are working on it. They only support PICO NEO 4 for now. Not HTC or Meta or even WebXR.
You are the best thanks!!!
You're welcome!
Thanks for the interesting presentation and comparison :)
Glad you liked it!
First, thanks for the video, I was able to get to know a new platform
Second, in the tests I did (I say this to see if anyone else had the same problem) when walking around the house, Galois shows a greater lag than Matterport, has anyone noticed this? It seems that the Galois server is slower, or because it is in China and Matterport uses this, it can make it slower due to lag.
Will be interesting if any of Realsee's software infringes on Matterport's patents. Matterport already sued GeoCV out of business.
That I have no idea lol. I hope not.
they cant good luck to them @@hughhou
excellent presentation
Many thanks
.e57 realsee vs .e57 matterport which is better ?
Is there a demo of the tour online so we can see the animations and image quality for ourselves?
Yes it is on their website
We are also considering buying this cam. We create everything in 3D Vista and will continue to do so. Because Realsee also only offers a cloud solution. Do you get the panoramas for free, or do you have to pay extra? It would also be interesting to see what the 3D models that you can download look like. Because we also use them in 3DVISTA. Can you possibly provide a inside and outside model for testing? It would be good to have trees 😊
I believe it cost point to download panorama - but there are free quota.
@@hughhou The free demos are scanned very poorly. The distances between the individual points are too large. You cannot create a reasonable 3D model from this. We only work with 3DVISTA because cloud is not an option, especially not a cloud in China 😁
It seems to be (best check the figures and small print yourself) that the cheapest Realsee option, if using 3dvista and external hosting, is their Starter package ($129 pa) which has a quota of 2 tour downloads after which it's $10 per download. So, if you have 100 tours per year, the total cost is $1109 pa ($92 pm). To me, it's a shame to spend so much on the camera and then to have to pay for the downloads. Call me old-fashioned but I like to feel the photos are mine and free and I'd be happy to take them directly from the camera.
Great videos as always, fantastic job.
Glad you like them!
Can we self-host a fully featured tour?
That's actually an excellent question! I guess the answer is no.
Everything has to be a subscription service these days (and let's be honest, that's what their credits system really is) and everyone goes along with it, no questions asked.
You will own nothing and you will be happy.
I would love to see a n.e.r.f style video being uses with this
I will make more follow up tutorial. The nerf feature is still under beta
Thanks Hugh for this detailed review and I look forward to any more that you do on this camera.
I was considering iGuide as an alternative to Matterport for construction site recording due to Matterport and the walled system.
The iGuide and the Theta Z1 will never compete with Realsee or Matterport for quality but the floorplan and measurements look good and worksites need data and don't have to look "Pretty".
But am confused with the Realsee pricing and ownership of recorded data.
Hugh or anyone please, Do we own the data to use and host as we want or does it have to be hosted on Realsee as per Matterport and their closed system?
Will rewatch you video again, thanks for doing.
Just like Matterport, you can download most of your data and move it off platform. It cost Credit in Realsee but each plan come with free credit (like 20 location per year). Matterport is cost per download. Realsee you do own your own data as most of the stuffs can be download. But the tour data not sure it can be host on different server. I am not a server guy so this will need Realsee to answer how to go about it. How to host 3D data if not with platform like Realsee or Matterport is beyond me. If you know what file format you need you can email realsee and ask them if it is supported. They usually build service based on their clients requests.
Thanks for your reply Hugh and again, the time you spent on that great informative content.@@hughhou
Can you collect BIM and can you link into CAD ?
I believe so but have not tested BIM yet.
Hi Hough, thanks for answering my last question, just one more: Is there something like a private google streetview to self host, so I can walk through my stereoscopic 360 images like on google maps but 3D and selfhosted?
That is basically a Virtual Tour - GSV is just a simplify virtual tour. You can do it with 3DVista which support 3D 360 video like the Pro 2 you have. Big learning curve I don't even teach that on my channel publicly as it will lose my viewers immediately.
@@hughhou Oh wow harder than Mystika VR? I already got lost on that tutorial 😅🙈. Doesn't it automatically make a 3D video with 5fps and gps metadata to a connected path with a map? Or would I have to do a ton manually? I do not need labels or all that fancy stuff - just google maps but in 3D (stereoscopic 360) and out of my own 360 videos
@@hughhou And thank you so much for your help
Hi Hough! :) I have another question: How can I remove parts of my microphone for 3D360 videos so e.g. like with photoshop but for videos... (dead cat of the h3vr mounted on top of the pro2, yes that's in my case the best spot)
Oh yes, this is the tutorial dedicated for it: ua-cam.com/video/KSpML98x-6c/v-deo.html - I also has older version in Adobe system: ua-cam.com/video/5jpzS7JcxrI/v-deo.html or this ua-cam.com/video/KZZn-jkJUfQ/v-deo.html
@@hughhou Thank you very much!
Can you export E57 files or LGS Files?
E57 yes, LGS, not sure.
I just played with the app and am flashed. The fact that nadir and Zenith are also blurred when using an Insta 360 or similar is still unattractive. But that is also the only thing I have to criticize. Thank you very much for the great video.
Glad you like it.
can i get the dollhouse model using the insta360 1inch?
yes, just tested
What you think of cloudpano?
I don't know. I never use it lol
I used it, in my opionen the cheapest option to start with just an 360 Camera, no scanner
heyyyy the best, thanks!!!
Glad you think so.
Oh boy, it's going to be very hard to see in this time. I hope I can watch latter
Thanks!
Oh wow thank you Nick! Big fan of your content BTW.
@@hughhou No problem at all. As I am a fan of yours as well. This is such an incredible camera!! A huge game changer for the industry. 👍
Can you make mp4 video using Galois? Like you do in Matterport?
Do you have any experience downloading these 3-D models and using them in unreal engine, unity, or other virtual reality development applications?
Not yet. But this is the next step. I need to figure out a point cloud optimization workflow. That is more on me figure out than them. My unreal knowledge is pretty limited lol
Using these laser, scanner camera hybrids to create models that can be used for 6DOF would be a huge advantage! I, too, am interested on working on a parent cloud workflow to create models I can use with 3D Vista and their new 6DOF option.
Thnx for making this video, very interesting Tek. I sure hope that you can use the realsee software to export a mesh model instead of a point mesh. In the case of a pointcloud:, converting the point cloud into a mesh, perhaps using "cloudcompare" is a good starting point. It is opensource and has a good track record. Convert smaller chunks at one time because of the texture resolution limit. The resulting high density mesh could be imported in blender, and you can use symplygon to reduce this mesh to a lightweight size. Symplygon has some new features in the form of "High-density mesh reduction" Also the re-meshing features are very helpful and can save you a lot of time. I would love to give it a shot! greets rob , @@hughhou
Can you confirm that unused credits do not expire after one year? Thank you. Paul Goldstone
360 x 135 ? :( i want the ceiling!! can it be patched? can the nadir be patched?
I think they are working on that feature.
can you make more video about this?
Can I do that with the Isnta360 Pro 2? And can the tour be captured in 3D to watch it in VR glasses in 3D?
Yes you can. But not in 3D stereo or support in VR in US yet.
@@hughhou Oh okey...thank you! :)
thank you for the video - complete comparison and your house is nice 😘😘😘🫡
You’re welcome 😊
Matterports issue seems to be charging people to use their cameras. Why should it cost money to download the data I capture, with a camera I purchase?
Thx for this video. I would guess that this kind of services will start popping up like mushrooms in the next years, with alle the development happend recently like Gaussian Splatting. People can just take videos of their rooms. Also hardware like Quest3 or Apples Vision Pro could be perfect for recoding the data and direclty see the results in 3D. Why should I use a camera paththrough mode all the time, if I have my environment in 3D anyway X-)
Indeed! Gaussian Splatting is gonna change the industry but LiDAR is gonna help the capture of Gaussian or NeRF - the better the LiDAR the more accurate is the model - so all tech are still relevant:)
Professsssional
Glad you think so!
Thanks for the review, Hugh! One thing that bothered me is the comparison between the Galois and Sony A1. I have a hard time believing the Sony A1 panos would look that bad. It felt like they were made to look bad by not enabling lens correction and defringing so as to make the Galois look better. I might be totally wrong, but the comparison didn't fill me with confidence.
Yes there is no chromatic abberation removal on SONY - I basically drop the images into PTGui and stitch them out. The CA can be further removal using Lightroom and AI (Lumar Neo is what we use) to achieve almost no CA result. But that is still a long added workflow which I usually just drop the SONY RAW directly in PTGui for large volume of photos. Please note, the SONY only have 4 shot on horizon - so more of the edge of the lens is used. It will further remove CA if I use 5 or usually 6 turns. The resolution in 4 turns is 14K - which is lower than 16K. To scale the SONY up to match 16K - it does look soft. This is not AI upscale. I am just trying to match 16K to 16K. Maybe a 8 to 15mm Canon Lens will have sharper result - but this is the result straight out of my camera. SONY has a lot latitude so we can certainly make them look great in post - but straight out of camera, it is like that. I did not make them look bad, but I did not make them look good with post magic neither.
Further explain the 14K vs 16K issue, you also see an very obvious sharper result in Xphase Pro X2 vs SONY 4 turns. Less fisheye we use, sharper result we get. BUT does not mean BETTER image. As I pointed out, SONY capture RAW with extremely low noise (to no noise), so with decent post work, it will def have BETTER color and better "polish" look. I never post an unpolished SONY photo. But to have fair comparison - I want to remove as much objective works I do to the photo as possible to keep it fair straight out of camera result.
@@hughhou Thanks for the reply. Appreciate it!
@@hughhou Sure. On the other hand, the Galois image is improved out of the box. So at least applying basic presets on the Sony import I think would be a more fair comparison. Or use the Sony JPG versions instead, not the RAWs.
Agree.
Thanks so much for your help Hough! For your last answer: @hughhou Oh wow harder than Mystika VR? I already got lost on that tutorial 😅🙈. Doesn't it automatically make a 3D video with 5fps and gps metadata to a connected path with a map? Or would I have to do a ton manually? I do not need labels or all that fancy stuff - just google maps but in 3D (stereoscopic 360) and out of my own 360 videos
The 5fps GPS metadata for GSV - Insta360 native software is better and it is built in. Try that first :)
@@hughhou Thanks for your fast reply☺️ But it is not 3D... and I need it to be private
Well 3D need VR headset. You are talking about 3DVista or KRPano - those all require some programming skill :)
@@hughhou Thank you! :) Programming Skill depends on the amount / time it needs. I studied conputer science so that would'nt be a problem in general.
For what do I need to programm in 3DVista?
nice video!
Thank you! Cheers!
What’s the price on it?
$5499 camera + plan - it is actually in the video break down the cost.
Can we export our 3 d tours and host it on our own and showcase these in Quest 3 ??
Where is your showcase in Quest 3? If you are going to export it - I will suggest other solution. It can but really not easy. Better just capture with Quest 3 in mind for now
Its Quite interesting, Can we use Matterport Camera on this Realsee plateform?
I don’t think so.
I'm really considering this now. Can the point cloud files be exported out without going through RealSee software or server ? How does this compare with Leica BLK360 ?
No you need Realsee service just like Matterport
Galoi image quality better than sony A1 ?????????
Nope, Sony A1 is still better but this is a lot easier without post.
Can you Compare to the LEICA BLK 2 GO ?
I will ask samme question 👌
@failerstone7100
Have you a Leica BLK 2 go?
@@Fck-123yes
Does realsee image quality comparable to dslr magazine image standard? 😅
Depend on which lens and how many turns you are doing in the DSLR.
yes.
We dont get 1500 credits any more ?
This company is a scan, they dont respond if you have a question, I try with the 360
PLEASE SUCCEED
It is alreadi outdated :-)
Wait why?
@@hughhou check out 3D gaussian splatting, you need a camera and a mid range PC and you can get better results.
His accent makes me confuse, mettaport and which brand he pronouncing
Realsee - I am doing my best hehe. I am a technologist and creator - not a language expert. But one thing I can promise: the best, insight content on this channel that is original and probably copied by many other creators :)