I love his story with him calling his agent and saying that he wanted to try out for Batman. His agent was surprised and said that she thought all he wanted to play was total freaks, and Pattinson responded with "Well he is a freak, he's like a different kind of freak."
he took the batman role seriously. he got into shape. I know people were like he is too skinny no he wasn't skinny he was lean muscle there is a difference. he was 176lbs of lean muscle. to compare Christian bale was 189lbs. only a 13lbs difference. Michael Keaton was only 160lbs and no one complained. for me personally i bought the 4K UHD version. and the only negative for me was the film was a little too long. for me putting it at 2h 30mins plus credits would have made better pacing.
@@matthewjuarbe5826i agree, but I really struggle to find the fat to trim. Because even if the pace was ever so slightly off the movie was just so damn beautifully made
that is true I find myself having the same issue when I'm editing my movies. i can watch it i have watched it multiple times and it doesn't feel like 3hrs. but maybe it's because I'm just a fan of Batman so all things batman I can watch it and not care how long it is. @@shottyjonny3972
What some people don't get about Robert is that he's not a bad actor, Edward Cullen is a bad character, and he portrayed him marvelously. He was so good that everyone thought it was him and his acting, but he was actually living the boring cardboard character he had to play for that film. But he wanted more, he wanted to grow and learn, and he has done it in an amazing way.
The funny thing is, even with the terrible character, terrible writing, and terrible direction, he’s still the best actor in the franchise. Now that’s something.
Um, the character is what the actor, writer, and director bring to it. To imply the actor has no responsibility in the character's portrayal is to not understanding the process of bringing a character to life on the screen.
Robert Pattinson played the part of Edward Cullen very well. An emotionally stunted vampire who’s stuck in a purgatory like state of being permanently 17, full of self loathing but at the same time has to exercise a lot self control to not drink his human girlfriends blood doesn’t fit the definition of boring.
As someone who read the books (I loved them as a teenager, don’t judge😂), Pattinson literally played Edward EXACTLY as he was written. His character was awkward and super corny. He wasn’t even acting badly in twilight, he was just portraying what was given to him.
I read all the books too! It was light entertainment for teenagers, nothing to be ashamed of. Boys get to like their "teenage entertainment" well into their 40's, so... 🙄 And yes, Edward was a bad character all around 😂 even then, the fact he watched a girl sleep entering her room every night, even BEFORE they were a thing, gave me goosebumps. And he was so damn boring, dear lord lol exactly the w3t dream of a 45ish yo christian woman, go figure 👀
I also think because we also grew up with Harry Potter and Lord of the Rings we seen alot of fantasy. Maby we where to young to understand the sexual dynamics
One of the greatest reinventions of an actor in Hollywood history. He started taking some weird and risky roles, all of which paid off greatly because he truly is one of the best actors of his generation.
Brings to mind Daniel Radcliffe as well, just with a differentish generation. Both are doing what they wanted in the first place, and I'm here for the weirdness.
I think that's a little hyperbole but actually might be pretty close to the truth. But it's like literally one of the worst generations for movies since it really took off in the 90s.
I still think along with Willem Dafoe they did two of the greatest performances of 2019 and of the decade with The lighthouse. They were absolutely robbed at the oscars at least for a nomination
I wouldn’t even say it was putting in the work because some actors/actresses destroy their careers with a role and never get out of that pit. He’s definitely one of a kind
I like this assessment because I think it does say something about his respect for his craft. He didn't expect notoriety to lead to a successful career, he invested in smaller projects to build his experience and resume so when the twilight franchise finished he could come out swinging with a lot more range and acclaim.
Robert Pattinson really is a quintessential example of an extremely talented actor getting a tough break with a casting that would make pretty much anyone a bit of a cultural outcast. He went from starring in one of the most ridiculed film franchises of all time to what I honestly think is the best live-action portrayal of Batman yet (though I understand that is debatable). I truly regret mocking him for the Twilight movies in hindsight.
As a dark knight lover, I went into the new Batman with super low expectations. I don’t think it quite matched up to the dark knight, but I was amazed at how much better it was than I was anticipating.
@@crukih7527 oh I’m with you 100%. The Dark Knight has better pacing, a more interesting story, a far better villain, and still an excellent version of Batman. It’s a superior film in almost every way, as well as the greatest live action Batman movie ever. But I honestly think “The Batman” is the second best, and it was the edgy and subversive superhero movie that we needed at the time.
I think Andrew Garfield's career is evolving in a somewhat similar way to Pattinson's. Going from feeling trapped in the movie making "machine" after Amazing Spider-Man 2, using theatre as a back door in the same way Pattinson used indie films, and finally making a comeback in blockbusters with Indie sensibilities. Tik Tik Boom was his Lighthouse Edit: I know Garfield and Pattinson have not had totally identical careers which is why I said "Somewhat similar". The biggest difference being Pattinson had a far deeper hole to dig himself out of while Garfield had a lot of success before and after TASM 2. I mainly just thought they had interesting parallels in that they both got road blocked by really bad Hollywood blockbusters and had to do substantial work to get back on track
Would you say No Way Home was his The Batman, then? A big budget franchise movie that showed the issues with his previous franchise was the writing and not the acting?
It's weird that I always felt that Andrew's Spider-man was the most real Spider-man we could have ever got. I never hated the movies even. The cinematography, the score, the fight sequences and his chemistry with Emma Stone was just perfect. His portrayal of the Spider-man was actually what I expected Spidey to be.
He'll be voice acting in a new Studio Ghibli movie as well, The Boy and the Heron. I was dumbfounded when I found out which character he was since he sounded unrecognizable in the trailer. Gotta give him a lot of respect for stepping out and taking on such creative roles
I'd like to see him and Radcliffe reunite in something now. I've never been a fan of the Potter movies but have become a fan of his from everything I've seen him in since playing Harry and also because he's a really nice guy in real life.
yes yes i have been thinking this!! daniel has done the work to distance himself from harry, the same way robert did with edward. it would be perfect harmony to see them in a weird indie film together, since thats the genre they have in common these days
Which Batman rogues gallery do you guys see Daniel Radcliffe playing? I see him doing a really good Mad Hatter or Scarecrow. That would be a killer opportunity for Pattinson and Radcliffe to be on screen together again.
Credic's death was heartbreaking, but obviously not because of Pattinson - during the whole movie wasn't a great character nor performance - but because of the scream of Amos' actor (don't know his name, sorry).
That's what people never understood. He took Twilight for the money, pure and simple, so that later on he could afford to pick the roles that HE actually wanted to so
Well it would be a bold move to cry about being a multimillionaire cause the franchise exploded. He just did what was right for him. Using his money to do what he likes, which resulted at him getting not only arthouse roles.
It was a financial decision but he didn't take into account his reputation. His conversion truly is a miracle. When I watched lighthouse and when my friend told me that this was the twilight dude, I was shocked.
I feel like Kristen Stewart deserves a video like this too. Like Robert, she also reinvented herself by choosing a better career path and doing smaller, critically acclaimed indies and dramas after Twilight. From being a punchline to a respected Oscar nominated actress for playing Princess Diana was no easy feat and should be talked about more.
Almost everything I've seen her in she's been awful even after Twilight... >__> I just never bought her in roles or found her believable, and her facial expressions often come off as distractingly overacted. But then again, I haven't seen her in anything for a long time.
I actually dismissed Kristen Stewart after Twilight (I actually liked the other characters including Robert Pattinson) but Kristen was really bad. Until I started watching some of the movies post-Twilight and realized she wasn’t as bad as I thought she was. So, Twilight was good but Twilight was also unfair to characters who played their roles splendidly. Err… did I say Twilight was good? Redaction, please.
Her performance as Princess Diana was so fucking real and haunting, like I had a hard time connecting that with the mouth always open girl who would vibrate for no reason from Twilight.
I only saw _Twilight_ because it starred Kristen Stewart who moved me to tears from her performance in _Speak._ Having Cedric Diggory from Harry Potter and the director of _Thirteen_ were also convincing. I ended up really mad at my friends for dragging me along to the theater and for thinking the resumes of the director and stars were proof the movie would be good.
One of my buddies paid close attention to his career after Twilight and showed me how good of an actor he was in those indie films. And I am genuinely pleased to see him break into relevancy again, because he really is a good actor. He deserves his success.
Good time and lighthouse really showed me that Pattinson has evolved beyond Twilight. After I saw him in tenant, his casting as Batman just made sense. I feel like Batman has brought everything together for him as an actor. Batman is such a complex character and Pattinson is one of the few actors that can capture that complexity. Can’t wait for The Batman 2
Jake gyllenhal needs an episode… he was always famous… but I don’t feel like he’s ever really gotten the recognition for his dedication and passion in so many roles.
I can honestly say Jake Gyllenhaal is probably my favorite actor of this era .. from movies like the good girl , Donnie Darko, his range is incredible . He's been acting for a long time and his characters like the night stalker are an obvious statement of the talent he has. Pattinson surprised me with batman and I started to like him and then after watching the Lighthouse I knew the dude had that special skill as an artist that he's able to bring the viewers attention in and make his character interesting and hold the imagination. His acting in the lighthouse is on another level . But yeah Gyllenhaal is set a a part as an actor
I think Jake for me is this gens Robert. Jake has phenomenal range, and I feel like it's not appreciated enough. His performance in Nightcrawler scared tf out of me. As did Prisoners.
A couple actors that definitely would be cool to look into if you guys haven't covered them already are Jack Black going from the not so family friendly to vary family friendly. And Robert Downey Jr. Who triumphed not only is an actor but also turning around his life completely.
Hard to believe where Downey once was considering where he is now. He was absolute pure trash at once point who belonged in jail. And now? DAMN. I can understand him not wanting his past to define him, but for those who need an example of turning their lives around, he’s a poster boy.
@@NoelleTakestheSky lol pretty harsh criticism. he is a former drug addict who lived his whole life in hollywood, probably the epicenter of vices in america.
I don’t think that the main problem was his bad acting in the first place, it’s simply just the material and cooperative stuff they give him to work with.
The Robert Pattinson (batman) and Kristen Stewart (Spencer) renaissance is among us and I could not be more thrilled. They've both been acting in fantastic stuff (Harry Potter for Pattinson, Adventureland for Stewart) before twilight but people hate the movie so much that they overlooked them entirely.
He escaped what many actors/actresses couldn't. A typecast. I loved his interpretation of Bruce Wayne/Batman I am interested to see where he takes the character in future films.
For reasons personal to me, The Lighthouse and its weird insane energy changed my life and gave me the strength to get myself out of a bad situation. It’s an incredibly powerful movie and my favorite Robert Eggers film.
Both Robert Pattinson and Daniel Radcliffe became famous for playing the main character of a beloved fantasy series. Both tried to shed their mainstream image by working in usually unusual, usually indie films. Pattinson got his next big break when he was casted as Batman. So if Radcliffe becomes Wolverine, then their journeys would really mirror each others. But if not, then Weird Al can be his Batman.
He knew what was up. Even during the filming of Twilight he was poking fun at his performance. Then he did some arthouse films to prove he was serious about acting and here we are now, he's on the mainstream as a respected actor.
People need to realize that just because someone may have been fitted with a less than popular role, it doesn't mean they have no talent. A lot of the time, a poor performance could be linked back to the direction they were given. You could have one of the best actors in the world playing Edward, but without good direction they wouldn't fare much better. And when it came to the announcement that he was playing Batman, I waited to reserve my judgement, and I'm glad I did.
It blew my mind that most only saw him as Twilight boy when he was announcdd for Batman. The indies he did after Twilight showed me immediately he was going to be an epic Batman.
Robert Pattinson and Daniel Radcliffe are both living the dream. Find financial success at a young age and spend the rest of your life chasing your passions. I suppose you could also say that pursuing their passion for acting is what lead them to financial success.
My mom, who had a very sharp intuition when it came to people, always said that she had a good feeling about Robert Pattinson. And this was when she'd first seen him as Edward from Twilight. She was right. Robert's not just talented but also hard-working and disciplined enough to learn about the characters he's playing. He's not taking his unique looks, connections, and fans for granted. And he knows how to play the long game, especially in an industry where your candle could burn out as quickly as it was lit.
Robert Pattinson played the part of Edward Cullen very well. Expertly playing him as a soulful, loving guy but also balancing the idea that he’s emotionally stunted and is full of self loathing that he might just snap at any moment.
I watched The Lighthouse for the first time a couple of months ago and is absolutely my film of the year. It was so beautiful I could have paused it at any frame and put it as a print on my wall, (maybe except for the scenes of Robert in the shed.) Anyhoo I loved it, they were both brilliant and Robert just keeps doing these unexpected but brilliant things. Like Dan Radcliffe actually.
I honestly don't think he was bad in Twilight. Yeah the movies are dumb but I don't think Robert's acting is that bad. It's more the script's fault than his. I knew from Goblet of Fire that he's a great actor. Most people just underestimated him and he proved them all wrong.
Same. I thought he was Edward come alive - now whether that's good or bad is its own question 😂 I saw some behind the scenes back then, and recall that most if not all, the cringe moments were inserted by the director and Stephanie Meyer. They literally made him catch that apple to emulate the book cover dozens of times 🙄
Great video!! Pattinson is one of my favorite actors these days. I loved his take on this version of Batman. He was incredible in GoodTime!! I also thought he was amazing as the pastor in The Devil all the Time a couple years ago. This guy really does have range that is near the top
A top actor must not only be good at acting. He/She must also be good at picking projects. I 100% trust Pattinson intuition at joining valuable and interesting projects. Watching a good performance is a bonus.
This! Some actors are good at what they do but they have bad agents and they suck at choosing roles. I feel a Mark Wahlberg is one of these. Half of his movies are good the other half are very questionable.
I think Logan Lerman took the same path. He navigates pretty well between mainstream and indie movies and he didn't let Percy Jackson franchise defined his career. He even worked as a producer in some really good independent movies.
I think his willingness to do the low budget, art focused, films, really helped him gain just an overall high level respect. He could have just ran with the super stardom, grab his heartthrob dollar, and dip out before he washed out.
You didn't mention his role in The King (Netflix) which in my opinion cemented the studios opinion on Pattinson as a true 'name'. His presence in that movie, which is basically reduced to a cameo, steals every scene.
Him and Daniel Radcliffe really dug themselves out of the stereotypes people knew them for and rebranded themselves as passionate artists in their field. Jacob Elordi is also one of those people on a journey of becoming a major player in Hollywood and moving away from romcoms.
Thank you for this video. I never saw Twilight, and always knew Pattinson as “the guy from the vampire movies for tween girls.” Then I saw the Lighthouse and I was blown away. Because of that, I didn’t hesitate to see The Batman. But ever since I’d been wondering how he had managed to pivot like that. Like you said, it’s a feat rarely seen. I have tremendous respect for the guy and I’m glad you’re sharing a bit of his history so audiences can better understand how dedicated and hardworking Pattinson really is. He deserves the accolades he’s getting. Great video!
One of his latest performances that really baffles you is The King starred by Timothee Chalamet. That scene where they first meet he eats right up. Man has dimensions for days.
As someone who knows twilight the movies, and have watched the lighthouse and the Batman, I had no clue that the main actor was the same. It’s crazy what he’s done with his career a complete 180.
I think he was very smart to go into indie movies instead of taking blockbuster films. But I feel he did something that many actors in his spot don’t do. Many want to be taken seriously but don’t strived to become better. Rob did, he put in the time and hard work to become a better actor and it payed off.
Willem Dafoe is as good as any other living actor, he performed to the peak of his abilities in The Lighthouse, and Pattinson perfectly kept up with him. That should say everything you need to know.
I missed most lf the movies you mentioned with him. But his role in tenet. Really made me see him differently. Then i saw he was going to be Batman and I thought he could do it. Glad hes going places
As I see it, I think he portrayed the best Batman, much like Heath portrayed the best Joker. Talent, respect for his craft, & it's source material. As the decades pass, Pattinson just may be the UK's young iteration of our (Yanks) Tom Cruise. Both are literal "acting multi-tools!"
Pattinson's case is the perfect example of diamond staying brilliant even in the dirtiest mud. He was born to act. He got that talent. Thus he's not afraid to explore. The exciting thing is that he's still relatively young as an actor. When he hits 40 and beyond, we will see more of him.
I really liked this take, the tone this analysis was written in was a refreshing mix of empathetic and really well researched /informed. This quality of youtubing kind of parallels the redeemed artistic integrity the video was talking about, of finding great analytical content the platform can provide for me after sometimes finding it difficult to wade through droves of film analysis videos relying on controversy or gossip and regurgitative "top ten yadda yadda" formats. Cheers! Just thought I'd shout you out since you did such a great job of highlighting the triumph of a guy who rose through the rough.
I have been happy for him since seeing him hit mainstream success again this time with respect. I had little doubt he would be great in The Batman when it was announced, for years I have seen decent and great actors have their reputation diminished by their roles and (usually) the writing behind them, not by the talent of the actors themselves - comes with the territory of being a Star Wars fan LOL. Plus, while I haven't seen it, I heard The Lighthouse was a good film too.
When people said sparkle boy was not a good fit for Batman, I reminded them Beetlejuice became Batman too. Acting capability is far more important than a role they once did
After LightHouse I went totally the opposite with my opinion on Pattinson than how I seen him before. It was absolutely mindblowing, and loved his Batman movie too. So yup. After twilight, I managed to accept Pattinson's talent. Stewart on the other hand, couldnt do anything to have the same. 😅
@@The_RedVIII sure. And we all know oscar is actually the most prominent, most honest rewarding ever... On paper only. Dont be silly. Also, why should I care about oscars again when it comes to PERSONAL opinions?!
Yeah, I don't understand. She is made of wood, is expressionless and is one of those people that always basically play themselves. She is not very different from character to character and we she tries to emote a little bit, it comes as unnatural and cringy. How some people not only get to be actors but even become that big while being terrible, is beyond me. At least Nic Cage is crazy and kind of hilarious in his own special way. But this woman has nothing (at least imo).
I loved Robert Pattinson in "The Devil all the Time". That movie gave me a respect for both him and Tom Holland. He is truly opposite of the plank of wood Kristen Stewart
I watched The Devil all the Time and 99 Homes, back to back and by happenstance, so I saw two spidermans Tom Holland and Andrew Garfield put on great performances.
Never saw Twilight, remember the memes though. After seeing him in other films recently, I'm glad he escaped that. He's passionate about his craft and delivers some great performances.
it is insane what he pulled off and its in large part because of safdie brothers, he has some of the greatest performances ever in the batman, the lighthouse and good time its insane
Also, we can tell his career is going to continue in this good streak as he is in The Boy and the Heron (dir. Hayao Miyazaki) and the lead in Mickey 17 (dir. Bong Joon-ho). And of course The Batman: Part II
I find Robert Pattinson to be really respectable. I don't know if this is a weird interpretation, but I find his journey of hard work and dedication to the craft to be taken seriously is what I find as the epitome of stoicism and what a man should be. I don't know how to describe it, but I respect the hell out of it. If there's one thing I want to be, is to have the same amount of drive as this man
I know it’s super cool and hip to hate on things like Twilight with the hurr hurr “tWiLiGhT sux” routine but tbh most of the acting was exactly as it was intended to be. Robert and Stewart played these characters spot on; it’s just a cheesy, teen romance that isn’t nearly as awful or bad as people like to dogpile with their internet + Nickelback takes. Not every performance needs to come with the baggage of 3 years of getting into character. Sometimes the story is the point, and sometimes that story is simple. Has absolutely no problem with the first 3 Twilight films. Last two weren’t great though.
I'm so glad he did so well as Batman. The lighthouse changed my whole opinion of him. And so I spent two years defending his casting to anyone who questioned it until The Batman came out. Tenet only reinforced my argument.
Best Batman to date. I really like Reeves and Pattison's take on the universe. It's not perfect but either was Nolan's go. With Nolan's 3rd movie I can't get past Bale's voice. It has not aged well.
It really annoyed the hell out of me that people were against Robert being because of Twilight despite him and Kristen Stewart putting that series behind them to star in better films. It was the stupidly of the Ben Affleck cast as Batman internet "controversy" repeating itself.
I always knew Robert was a fantastic actor and had done some really great films, I think because a lot of them were indie films people were not really interested in them as much as others. I remember when he was cast as Batman and everyone was doubting him, but I knew that he was going to do a phenomenal job
The biggest reimagining of a leading actor in the last 20 years is, Bryan Cranston. Bryan will always be Hal from Malcom, but his performance in BB is probably the greatest performance of a Villain in a protagonist lead.
Yeah. He was so good in A Time to Kill and Lincoln Lawyer but got stuck in a bunch of romcoms. I'm sure they were fun and a nice paycheck but nothing award worthy.
i loved the twilight books and all the actors in the movies portrayed the characters immaculately. the "bad acting" was bad writing, not bad acting. i loved the movies so much because unlike many adaptations of books, they were flawless. it was as if i was reading the books again watching them. robert pattinson was always one of my favorite actors because of this franchise.
How come people forgot about Cosmopolis? To me, that movie is so underrated and served as pivot point for Pattinson. Also, Kristen Stewart took the same path but kinda more mixed in the results.
@@navidhudson7065I knew Kristen Stewart will get Oscar nomination since it's film about Princess Diana. And her acting has improved a lot since Diana is one of the badass character. Kristen is an awkward person herself and somehow when acting, she plays badass more better than awkward
I love his story with him calling his agent and saying that he wanted to try out for Batman. His agent was surprised and said that she thought all he wanted to play was total freaks, and Pattinson responded with "Well he is a freak, he's like a different kind of freak."
he took the batman role seriously. he got into shape. I know people were like he is too skinny no he wasn't skinny he was lean muscle there is a difference. he was 176lbs of lean muscle. to compare Christian bale was 189lbs. only a 13lbs difference. Michael Keaton was only 160lbs and no one complained. for me personally i bought the 4K UHD version. and the only negative for me was the film was a little too long. for me putting it at 2h 30mins plus credits would have made better pacing.
@@matthewjuarbe5826i agree, but I really struggle to find the fat to trim. Because even if the pace was ever so slightly off the movie was just so damn beautifully made
that is true I find myself having the same issue when I'm editing my movies. i can watch it i have watched it multiple times and it doesn't feel like 3hrs. but maybe it's because I'm just a fan of Batman so all things batman I can watch it and not care how long it is. @@shottyjonny3972
@@matthewjuarbe5826 it is a long ass film but those 3 hours felt like the fastest 3 hours in my life lol
Tbh I don’t understand people saying The Batman was a slow burn the pacing is incredibly quick in terms of plot revelations.
What some people don't get about Robert is that he's not a bad actor, Edward Cullen is a bad character, and he portrayed him marvelously. He was so good that everyone thought it was him and his acting, but he was actually living the boring cardboard character he had to play for that film. But he wanted more, he wanted to grow and learn, and he has done it in an amazing way.
The funny thing is, even with the terrible character, terrible writing, and terrible direction, he’s still the best actor in the franchise. Now that’s something.
This applies verily to Kristen Stewart as well (but not Lautner I'm afraid)
@@valentinabell4263It’s depressing how many people think Bella IS Kristen Stewart. Like they can’t fathom that’s the character, not bad acting
Um, the character is what the actor, writer, and director bring to it. To imply the actor has no responsibility in the character's portrayal is to not understanding the process of bringing a character to life on the screen.
Robert Pattinson played the part of Edward Cullen very well. An emotionally stunted vampire who’s stuck in a purgatory like state of being permanently 17, full of self loathing but at the same time has to exercise a lot self control to not drink his human girlfriends blood doesn’t fit the definition of boring.
As someone who read the books (I loved them as a teenager, don’t judge😂), Pattinson literally played Edward EXACTLY as he was written. His character was awkward and super corny. He wasn’t even acting badly in twilight, he was just portraying what was given to him.
I didn't even read the books or watch the movies and even I think that people are way too "shocked" by his good acting just bc he was in twilight
I read all the books too! It was light entertainment for teenagers, nothing to be ashamed of. Boys get to like their "teenage entertainment" well into their 40's, so... 🙄
And yes, Edward was a bad character all around 😂 even then, the fact he watched a girl sleep entering her room every night, even BEFORE they were a thing, gave me goosebumps. And he was so damn boring, dear lord lol exactly the w3t dream of a 45ish yo christian woman, go figure 👀
The books and the movies are a pedo disgrace a 200 year old vamp crushing on a teen girl
He knew that Edward was badly written at that time.
I also think because we also grew up with Harry Potter and Lord of the Rings we seen alot of fantasy.
Maby we where to young to understand the sexual dynamics
One of the greatest reinventions of an actor in Hollywood history. He started taking some weird and risky roles, all of which paid off greatly because he truly is one of the best actors of his generation.
Brings to mind Daniel Radcliffe as well, just with a differentish generation. Both are doing what they wanted in the first place, and I'm here for the weirdness.
I think that's a little hyperbole but actually might be pretty close to the truth. But it's like literally one of the worst generations for movies since it really took off in the 90s.
Yes, that is a summary of the video we're all watching
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Weird roles becoming legendary memes paid off, I'd say 😅
He didn't reinvent himself, he reinvented people's perception of him.
exactly
Same thing.
I still think along with Willem Dafoe they did two of the greatest performances of 2019 and of the decade with The lighthouse. They were absolutely robbed at the oscars at least for a nomination
Once again the Oscars proved how commercially driven they really are ...
It was in limited release in my town and when it was available, I saw it that weekend. Lighthouse was amazing!
I agree. That movie should have won atleast two academy awards
Absolutely! That and good time
Saw, a trailer and was quite impressed but it look too intense.
Robert Pattinson and Daniel Radcliff made the perfect career decisions after their big breakout.
I love actors that love indie films. They always have such a fascinating filmography. Love the comedic route Dan Radcliffe has gone as well
Now I want to see Daniel Radcliffe star in the MCU
@@ruleroftheredzone haven't watched mcu in a long time
right! the lighthouse and swiss army man are my two favorite movies
@@JOHNNY_LECTER I love swiss army man so much. I still have yet to see the lighthouse. Trying to get into the right mindspace for it
He simply just did the work. Expanded his range through a variety of films that led to incredible roles
There are people who are known for one role who aren't given the chance to expand
I wouldn’t even say it was putting in the work because some actors/actresses destroy their careers with a role and never get out of that pit. He’s definitely one of a kind
I like this assessment because I think it does say something about his respect for his craft. He didn't expect notoriety to lead to a successful career, he invested in smaller projects to build his experience and resume so when the twilight franchise finished he could come out swinging with a lot more range and acclaim.
Robert Pattinson really is a quintessential example of an extremely talented actor getting a tough break with a casting that would make pretty much anyone a bit of a cultural outcast. He went from starring in one of the most ridiculed film franchises of all time to what I honestly think is the best live-action portrayal of Batman yet (though I understand that is debatable). I truly regret mocking him for the Twilight movies in hindsight.
It was such a bad break getting cast in twilight and making millions and being a heartthrob. I don't know how he got through those dark times.
@@godpilled9077 well then, I guess it wasn’t all bad 😂
@@BrendanPappas 🤣
As a dark knight lover, I went into the new Batman with super low expectations. I don’t think it quite matched up to the dark knight, but I was amazed at how much better it was than I was anticipating.
@@crukih7527 oh I’m with you 100%. The Dark Knight has better pacing, a more interesting story, a far better villain, and still an excellent version of Batman. It’s a superior film in almost every way, as well as the greatest live action Batman movie ever. But I honestly think “The Batman” is the second best, and it was the edgy and subversive superhero movie that we needed at the time.
I think Andrew Garfield's career is evolving in a somewhat similar way to Pattinson's. Going from feeling trapped in the movie making "machine" after Amazing Spider-Man 2, using theatre as a back door in the same way Pattinson used indie films, and finally making a comeback in blockbusters with Indie sensibilities. Tik Tik Boom was his Lighthouse
Edit: I know Garfield and Pattinson have not had totally identical careers which is why I said "Somewhat similar". The biggest difference being Pattinson had a far deeper hole to dig himself out of while Garfield had a lot of success before and after TASM 2. I mainly just thought they had interesting parallels in that they both got road blocked by really bad Hollywood blockbusters and had to do substantial work to get back on track
Would you say No Way Home was his The Batman, then? A big budget franchise movie that showed the issues with his previous franchise was the writing and not the acting?
It's weird that I always felt that Andrew's Spider-man was the most real Spider-man we could have ever got. I never hated the movies even. The cinematography, the score, the fight sequences and his chemistry with Emma Stone was just perfect. His portrayal of the Spider-man was actually what I expected Spidey to be.
@@Professor-id4jh he was too good looking to be spiderman. It seemed like he was the one picking on his "bullies" because he was so tall and handsome.
Fun fact-They both were roommates back in the early 2000s!
I still think the social network is Andrew's best role
He'll be voice acting in a new Studio Ghibli movie as well, The Boy and the Heron.
I was dumbfounded when I found out which character he was since he sounded unrecognizable in the trailer.
Gotta give him a lot of respect for stepping out and taking on such creative roles
YEES!!! His voice acting was amazing for the Grey Heron. Full Goblin mode voice.
Haven't even seen the movie but I heard his voice for that role. It's insane how he did that.
I'd like to see him and Radcliffe reunite in something now. I've never been a fan of the Potter movies but have become a fan of his from everything I've seen him in since playing Harry and also because he's a really nice guy in real life.
yes yes i have been thinking this!! daniel has done the work to distance himself from harry, the same way robert did with edward. it would be perfect harmony to see them in a weird indie film together, since thats the genre they have in common these days
Maybe we can have Radcliffe as Logan and pattinson as Cyclops...?
Which Batman rogues gallery do you guys see Daniel Radcliffe playing? I see him doing a really good Mad Hatter or Scarecrow. That would be a killer opportunity for Pattinson and Radcliffe to be on screen together again.
I am very in favor of a gritty X-Men reboot.
@@maxd1541I agree. Dan Rad would make an excellent Scare-crow.
Much respect to Robert. He didn't sit down and cry about his circumstances. He picked himself up and put in the effort to change it.
His death in Harry Potter still make me cry to this day and also think he was one of the best parts of Tenet
Credic's death was heartbreaking, but obviously not because of Pattinson - during the whole movie wasn't a great character nor performance - but because of the scream of Amos' actor (don't know his name, sorry).
I misread your comment as if his death in harry potter was the best part of tenet
...I decided that that's very in line with the rest of tenet plot
@zsoltbartus169 Amos screaming "my boy" still haunts me to this day. It was so heartbreaking.
That's what people never understood. He took Twilight for the money, pure and simple, so that later on he could afford to pick the roles that HE actually wanted to so
Well it would be a bold move to cry about being a multimillionaire cause the franchise exploded. He just did what was right for him. Using his money to do what he likes, which resulted at him getting not only arthouse roles.
It was a financial decision but he didn't take into account his reputation. His conversion truly is a miracle. When I watched lighthouse and when my friend told me that this was the twilight dude, I was shocked.
Before Batman, I could only see Robert Pattinson as Edward. Now I can mostly see him as Batman.
What about Cedric Diggory
Teen Emo Batman is cringe
Tenet, Lighthouse and Batman
Guy is a fucking legend
I mostly see him as the Tenet companion. The best companion.
Young Batman if you watched that one scene in the flash ben Affleck was unfairly robbed from Bruce Wayne
I feel like Kristen Stewart deserves a video like this too. Like Robert, she also reinvented herself by choosing a better career path and doing smaller, critically acclaimed indies and dramas after Twilight. From being a punchline to a respected Oscar nominated actress for playing Princess Diana was no easy feat and should be talked about more.
Almost everything I've seen her in she's been awful even after Twilight... >__>
I just never bought her in roles or found her believable, and her facial expressions often come off as distractingly overacted. But then again, I haven't seen her in anything for a long time.
I actually dismissed Kristen Stewart after Twilight (I actually liked the other characters including Robert Pattinson) but Kristen was really bad. Until I started watching some of the movies post-Twilight and realized she wasn’t as bad as I thought she was.
So, Twilight was good but Twilight was also unfair to characters who played their roles splendidly.
Err… did I say Twilight was good? Redaction, please.
Her performance as Princess Diana was so fucking real and haunting, like I had a hard time connecting that with the mouth always open girl who would vibrate for no reason from Twilight.
I only saw _Twilight_ because it starred Kristen Stewart who moved me to tears from her performance in _Speak._ Having Cedric Diggory from Harry Potter and the director of _Thirteen_ were also convincing.
I ended up really mad at my friends for dragging me along to the theater and for thinking the resumes of the director and stars were proof the movie would be good.
I also watched it because of Kristen Stewart, because I liked her in Panic Room with Jodi Foster. Also, Rachel Lefevre due to Big Wolf on Campus
One of my buddies paid close attention to his career after Twilight and showed me how good of an actor he was in those indie films. And I am genuinely pleased to see him break into relevancy again, because he really is a good actor. He deserves his success.
Good time and lighthouse really showed me that Pattinson has evolved beyond Twilight. After I saw him in tenant, his casting as Batman just made sense. I feel like Batman has brought everything together for him as an actor. Batman is such a complex character and Pattinson is one of the few actors that can capture that complexity. Can’t wait for The Batman 2
He's got even more to do in the next film. I'm really looking forward to seeing the mask of Bruce Wayne that Pattinson will put on.
Jake gyllenhal needs an episode… he was always famous… but I don’t feel like he’s ever really gotten the recognition for his dedication and passion in so many roles.
I wouldn't exactly call Brokeback Mountain underrated. That was Gyllenhaal's star turn for me.
I can honestly say Jake Gyllenhaal is probably my favorite actor of this era .. from movies like the good girl , Donnie Darko, his range is incredible . He's been acting for a long time and his characters like the night stalker are an obvious statement of the talent he has. Pattinson surprised me with batman and I started to like him and then after watching the Lighthouse I knew the dude had that special skill as an artist that he's able to bring the viewers attention in and make his character interesting and hold the imagination. His acting in the lighthouse is on another level . But yeah Gyllenhaal is set a a part as an actor
I think Jake for me is this gens Robert. Jake has phenomenal range, and I feel like it's not appreciated enough. His performance in Nightcrawler scared tf out of me. As did Prisoners.
A couple actors that definitely would be cool to look into if you guys haven't covered them already are Jack Black going from the not so family friendly to vary family friendly. And Robert Downey Jr. Who triumphed not only is an actor but also turning around his life completely.
i'm pretty sure they covered rdj, but i would be interested in something about jack black, for sure.
They have already did a video on both. Maybe a video on Brendan Fraser
Hard to believe where Downey once was considering where he is now. He was absolute pure trash at once point who belonged in jail. And now? DAMN. I can understand him not wanting his past to define him, but for those who need an example of turning their lives around, he’s a poster boy.
@@NoelleTakestheSky lol pretty harsh criticism. he is a former drug addict who lived his whole life in hollywood, probably the epicenter of vices in america.
@@NoelleTakestheSky More dehumanizing language. Great.
I don’t think that the main problem was his bad acting in the first place, it’s simply just the material and cooperative stuff they give him to work with.
The Robert Pattinson (batman) and Kristen Stewart (Spencer) renaissance is among us and I could not be more thrilled. They've both been acting in fantastic stuff (Harry Potter for Pattinson, Adventureland for Stewart) before twilight but people hate the movie so much that they overlooked them entirely.
He escaped what many actors/actresses couldn't. A typecast. I loved his interpretation of Bruce Wayne/Batman I am interested to see where he takes the character in future films.
And thr fact he is doing voice acting in The Boy and the Heron is also a sign of his range. He was fantastic in that movie
For reasons personal to me, The Lighthouse and its weird insane energy changed my life and gave me the strength to get myself out of a bad situation. It’s an incredibly powerful movie and my favorite Robert Eggers film.
Both Robert Pattinson and Daniel Radcliffe became famous for playing the main character of a beloved fantasy series. Both tried to shed their mainstream image by working in usually unusual, usually indie films. Pattinson got his next big break when he was casted as Batman. So if Radcliffe becomes Wolverine, then their journeys would really mirror each others. But if not, then Weird Al can be his Batman.
He knew what was up. Even during the filming of Twilight he was poking fun at his performance. Then he did some arthouse films to prove he was serious about acting and here we are now, he's on the mainstream as a respected actor.
People need to realize that just because someone may have been fitted with a less than popular role, it doesn't mean they have no talent. A lot of the time, a poor performance could be linked back to the direction they were given. You could have one of the best actors in the world playing Edward, but without good direction they wouldn't fare much better. And when it came to the announcement that he was playing Batman, I waited to reserve my judgement, and I'm glad I did.
It blew my mind that most only saw him as Twilight boy when he was announcdd for Batman. The indies he did after Twilight showed me immediately he was going to be an epic Batman.
Robert Pattinson and Daniel Radcliffe are both living the dream. Find financial success at a young age and spend the rest of your life chasing your passions. I suppose you could also say that pursuing their passion for acting is what lead them to financial success.
My mom, who had a very sharp intuition when it came to people, always said that she had a good feeling about Robert Pattinson. And this was when she'd first seen him as Edward from Twilight.
She was right. Robert's not just talented but also hard-working and disciplined enough to learn about the characters he's playing. He's not taking his unique looks, connections, and fans for granted. And he knows how to play the long game, especially in an industry where your candle could burn out as quickly as it was lit.
Been a fan of his since Twilight. He's such an amazing actor.
same as i didn't love his performance in twilight but really enjoyed his interviews. was kind of rooting for the guy since then
Robert Pattinson played the part of Edward Cullen very well. Expertly playing him as a soulful, loving guy but also balancing the idea that he’s emotionally stunted and is full of self loathing that he might just snap at any moment.
I watched The Lighthouse for the first time a couple of months ago and is absolutely my film of the year. It was so beautiful I could have paused it at any frame and put it as a print on my wall, (maybe except for the scenes of Robert in the shed.) Anyhoo I loved it, they were both brilliant and Robert just keeps doing these unexpected but brilliant things. Like Dan Radcliffe actually.
I honestly don't think he was bad in Twilight. Yeah the movies are dumb but I don't think Robert's acting is that bad. It's more the script's fault than his.
I knew from Goblet of Fire that he's a great actor. Most people just underestimated him and he proved them all wrong.
Same. I thought he was Edward come alive - now whether that's good or bad is its own question 😂
I saw some behind the scenes back then, and recall that most if not all, the cringe moments were inserted by the director and Stephanie Meyer. They literally made him catch that apple to emulate the book cover dozens of times 🙄
Best and most interesting Batman so far. Also love him in Good Time.
Great video!! Pattinson is one of my favorite actors these days. I loved his take on this version of Batman. He was incredible in GoodTime!! I also thought he was amazing as the pastor in The Devil all the Time a couple years ago. This guy really does have range that is near the top
A top actor must not only be good at acting. He/She must also be good at picking projects.
I 100% trust Pattinson intuition at joining valuable and interesting projects. Watching a good performance is a bonus.
This! Some actors are good at what they do but they have bad agents and they suck at choosing roles. I feel a Mark Wahlberg is one of these. Half of his movies are good the other half are very questionable.
His movie Remember Me is one of my all time favorites. His scene with the dad at the end was phenomenal
YES
I think Logan Lerman took the same path. He navigates pretty well between mainstream and indie movies and he didn't let Percy Jackson franchise defined his career.
He even worked as a producer in some really good independent movies.
I love Robert, he’s a great actor. I fell in love with his acting in Lost City of Z, and I can’t get enough of him ever since
He is one of the best active actors in Hollywood right now.
I think his willingness to do the low budget, art focused, films, really helped him gain just an overall high level respect. He could have just ran with the super stardom, grab his heartthrob dollar, and dip out before he washed out.
He's currently one of the best actors working. From a certein time he never misses
You didn't mention his role in The King (Netflix) which in my opinion cemented the studios opinion on Pattinson as a true 'name'. His presence in that movie, which is basically reduced to a cameo, steals every scene.
Matthew McConaughey is really the only actor I can think of who reimagined their image more successfully
He had one of the best indie runs in the last decade
Him and Daniel Radcliffe really dug themselves out of the stereotypes people knew them for and rebranded themselves as passionate artists in their field. Jacob Elordi is also one of those people on a journey of becoming a major player in Hollywood and moving away from romcoms.
His role in The King as the prince of France was also good. After I watched it i was excited to see him as the Batman.
Thank you for this video. I never saw Twilight, and always knew Pattinson as “the guy from the vampire movies for tween girls.” Then I saw the Lighthouse and I was blown away. Because of that, I didn’t hesitate to see The Batman. But ever since I’d been wondering how he had managed to pivot like that. Like you said, it’s a feat rarely seen. I have tremendous respect for the guy and I’m glad you’re sharing a bit of his history so audiences can better understand how dedicated and hardworking Pattinson really is. He deserves the accolades he’s getting. Great video!
One of his latest performances that really baffles you is The King starred by Timothee Chalamet. That scene where they first meet he eats right up. Man has dimensions for days.
He made huge money early on Twilight. It gave him a safe net to experiment artistically. He wanted to show his talent, not to make money
As someone who knows twilight the movies, and have watched the lighthouse and the Batman, I had no clue that the main actor was the same. It’s crazy what he’s done with his career a complete 180.
By trusting in himself and being brave enough to face challenges with every role. Inspirational guy, really.
It was Radcliffe a few videos ago, and now Pattinson. It just showed how good those Brits are when delving in the craft of acting
Really liked Pattinson in Batman, hope to see more of that.
I think he was very smart to go into indie movies instead of taking blockbuster films. But I feel he did something that many actors in his spot don’t do. Many want to be taken seriously but don’t strived to become better. Rob did, he put in the time and hard work to become a better actor and it payed off.
great video! I have so much respect for Pattinson. Hard work and dedication really pay off in the long run
The first Pattinson movie I watched was Good Time. It is a great movie and eminently rewatchable.
Robert Pattinson is incredible. He is his own Lighthouse
Willem Dafoe is as good as any other living actor, he performed to the peak of his abilities in The Lighthouse, and Pattinson perfectly kept up with him. That should say everything you need to know.
The Lighthouse is one of the best films I have seen in a long time. Absolutely brilliant.
I missed most lf the movies you mentioned with him. But his role in tenet. Really made me see him differently. Then i saw he was going to be Batman and I thought he could do it. Glad hes going places
As I see it, I think he portrayed the best Batman, much like Heath portrayed the best Joker. Talent, respect for his craft, & it's source material.
As the decades pass, Pattinson just may be the UK's young iteration of our (Yanks) Tom Cruise. Both are literal "acting multi-tools!"
Robert was always slept on, glad he’s being recognized
What a lovely take on him as an actor. I’d be interested in watching some of his indie work, especially Good Time.
Pattinson's case is the perfect example of diamond staying brilliant even in the dirtiest mud.
He was born to act. He got that talent. Thus he's not afraid to explore.
The exciting thing is that he's still relatively young as an actor. When he hits 40 and beyond, we will see more of him.
I really liked this take, the tone this analysis was written in was a refreshing mix of empathetic and really well researched /informed. This quality of youtubing kind of parallels the redeemed artistic integrity the video was talking about, of finding great analytical content the platform can provide for me after sometimes finding it difficult to wade through droves of film analysis videos relying on controversy or gossip and regurgitative "top ten yadda yadda" formats. Cheers! Just thought I'd shout you out since you did such a great job of highlighting the triumph of a guy who rose through the rough.
I have been happy for him since seeing him hit mainstream success again this time with respect. I had little doubt he would be great in The Batman when it was announced, for years I have seen decent and great actors have their reputation diminished by their roles and (usually) the writing behind them, not by the talent of the actors themselves - comes with the territory of being a Star Wars fan LOL. Plus, while I haven't seen it, I heard The Lighthouse was a good film too.
The Lighthouse is a great movie indeed.
Pattinson should have been at least nominated for an Oscar by now. It will happen one day soon.
When people said sparkle boy was not a good fit for Batman, I reminded them Beetlejuice became Batman too. Acting capability is far more important than a role they once did
Good time one of the best character portrayals ever by Robert Pattinson. The man can ACT. He’s for real, very very good.
Matt Reeves saw Goodtime and loved Robs performance and after seeing it he thought there’s my Batman
7:39 - this line about extreme and unusual fits perfectly to Dan Radcliffe too.
After LightHouse I went totally the opposite with my opinion on Pattinson than how I seen him before. It was absolutely mindblowing, and loved his Batman movie too.
So yup. After twilight, I managed to accept Pattinson's talent.
Stewart on the other hand, couldnt do anything to have the same. 😅
Kristen Stewart literally was just Oscar nominated. She has put in some work too.
@@The_RedVIII sure. And we all know oscar is actually the most prominent, most honest rewarding ever...
On paper only. Dont be silly. Also, why should I care about oscars again when it comes to PERSONAL opinions?!
Yeah, I don't understand. She is made of wood, is expressionless and is one of those people that always basically play themselves. She is not very different from character to character and we she tries to emote a little bit, it comes as unnatural and cringy.
How some people not only get to be actors but even become that big while being terrible, is beyond me.
At least Nic Cage is crazy and kind of hilarious in his own special way. But this woman has nothing (at least imo).
Man, do I love Robert Pattinson. Dude's a phenomenal actor.
I loved Robert Pattinson in "The Devil all the Time". That movie gave me a respect for both him and Tom Holland. He is truly opposite of the plank of wood Kristen Stewart
that movie has so many flaws but tom and rob's performances were just enough to carry it into being a good film. They did awesome
I watched The Devil all the Time and 99 Homes, back to back and by happenstance, so I saw two spidermans Tom Holland and Andrew Garfield put on great performances.
@@chriscrowe11 I couldn't find that many holes, the movie pulled me in to their reality
@@chriscrowe11what flaws?
That plank of wood Stewart took the same career path just as him and has thrived very well too
I must leave a comment to ensure UA-cam graces me with more of such fine content. Excellent work, I thoroughly enjoyed it!
Never saw Twilight, remember the memes though. After seeing him in other films recently, I'm glad he escaped that. He's passionate about his craft and delivers some great performances.
robert pattinson found a formula: pick projects with talented directors n cinematographer in it
The Rover is such an underrated movie
it is insane what he pulled off and its in large part because of safdie brothers, he has some of the greatest performances ever in the batman, the lighthouse and good time its insane
Also, we can tell his career is going to continue in this good streak as he is in The Boy and the Heron (dir. Hayao Miyazaki) and the lead in Mickey 17 (dir. Bong Joon-ho). And of course The Batman: Part II
I find Robert Pattinson to be really respectable. I don't know if this is a weird interpretation, but I find his journey of hard work and dedication to the craft to be taken seriously is what I find as the epitome of stoicism and what a man should be. I don't know how to describe it, but I respect the hell out of it. If there's one thing I want to be, is to have the same amount of drive as this man
I know it’s super cool and hip to hate on things like Twilight with the hurr hurr “tWiLiGhT sux” routine but tbh most of the acting was exactly as it was intended to be. Robert and Stewart played these characters spot on; it’s just a cheesy, teen romance that isn’t nearly as awful or bad as people like to dogpile with their internet + Nickelback takes.
Not every performance needs to come with the baggage of 3 years of getting into character. Sometimes the story is the point, and sometimes that story is simple. Has absolutely no problem with the first 3 Twilight films. Last two weren’t great though.
Best video yet mate masterclass in modern success stories of the 21st century
well done Robert.
I'm so glad he did so well as Batman. The lighthouse changed my whole opinion of him. And so I spent two years defending his casting to anyone who questioned it until The Batman came out. Tenet only reinforced my argument.
Best Batman to date. I really like Reeves and Pattison's take on the universe. It's not perfect but either was Nolan's go. With Nolan's 3rd movie I can't get past Bale's voice. It has not aged well.
I saw him in “Water for Elephants” and realized he wasn’t a bad actor. By the time “The Batman” came around, I knew he was right for it.
It really annoyed the hell out of me that people were against Robert being because of Twilight despite him and Kristen Stewart putting that series behind them to star in better films.
It was the stupidly of the Ben Affleck cast as Batman internet "controversy" repeating itself.
I always knew Robert was a fantastic actor and had done some really great films, I think because a lot of them were indie films people were not really interested in them as much as others. I remember when he was cast as Batman and everyone was doubting him, but I knew that he was going to do a phenomenal job
i never thought he'd end up doing shakespeare, let alone that i'd actually enjoy it, but overall i thought he did pretty well
The biggest reimagining of a leading actor in the last 20 years is, Bryan Cranston. Bryan will always be Hal from Malcom, but his performance in BB is probably the greatest performance of a Villain in a protagonist lead.
Matthew Mcconaughey is the other obvious one that springs to mind
Yeah. He was so good in A Time to Kill and Lincoln Lawyer but got stuck in a bunch of romcoms. I'm sure they were fun and a nice paycheck but nothing award worthy.
i loved the twilight books and all the actors in the movies portrayed the characters immaculately. the "bad acting" was bad writing, not bad acting. i loved the movies so much because unlike many adaptations of books, they were flawless. it was as if i was reading the books again watching them. robert pattinson was always one of my favorite actors because of this franchise.
8:17 well matthew mcconaughey 😅
I was gonna say the same thing.
"The Boy and the Heron" showed that he can not only just act, he can voice act FLAWLESSLY!
How come people forgot about Cosmopolis? To me, that movie is so underrated and served as pivot point for Pattinson.
Also, Kristen Stewart took the same path but kinda more mixed in the results.
I think she did a pretty good job herself 😅
It's hardly mixed for Kristen coming off her Oscar nomination and other acclaimed projects since Twilight.
@@navidhudson7065I knew Kristen Stewart will get Oscar nomination since it's film about Princess Diana. And her acting has improved a lot since Diana is one of the badass character. Kristen is an awkward person herself and somehow when acting, she plays badass more better than awkward
wish you had talked about "the lighhouse" more. it made me respect pattingson again. i feel in love w that movie.