Diana Ross - love triangle with Cher! Did she GR00M Michael Jackson? What happened to the Supremes?

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  • Diana Ross - love triangle with Cher! Did she GR00M Michael Jackson? Well this is weird…
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  • @KarineAlourde
    @KarineAlourde  Рік тому +51

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    • @MrDMC11889
      @MrDMC11889 Рік тому +8

      "Dirty Diana" is about Diana Ross. I never put that together.

    • @denisebrashears1552
      @denisebrashears1552 Рік тому +1

      You need to check your facts! I do not believe that dirty Diana was written about Diana Ross. I really don't think he would have been that rude with everyone knowing that he had feelings for her. But I guess it gives you something to talk about.

    • @brizzy4932
      @brizzy4932 Рік тому +2

      Michael Jackson, the secret love child of Diana Ross and Smokey Robinson 😲

    • @RobertaWilliams-sz3ht
      @RobertaWilliams-sz3ht 4 місяці тому +2

      @@denisebrashears1552
      Dirty Diana WAS about Diana Ross. All the facts fit. Diana even sang it as her opening act n told the audience. Her bad boy wrote it for Her!!

    • @RobertaWilliams-sz3ht
      @RobertaWilliams-sz3ht 4 місяці тому +1

      @@brizzy4932
      He looks just like nearly ALL his siblings they"d ALL have to come from her!! How ridiculous! And Diana was a 13 yr old girl across the world when he was born!! LMBAO!!

  • @katara9
    @katara9 Рік тому +420

    It's sad, Michael was always being exposed to things of the adult world far too early.

    • @myrtlemoore7611
      @myrtlemoore7611 Місяць тому +1

      That's cause that's called my lesting a child there's no getting around it she ought to be ashamed of herself

    • @myrtlemoore7611
      @myrtlemoore7611 Місяць тому +1

      How can you love a woman that molests a child cause that's what she did spare me your banality that's no love as a child molester

    • @thelbd2029
      @thelbd2029 Місяць тому

      Yeah, well, blame his BLACK dad cause Joseph Jackson FORCED his children into the industry without asking them how they felt about it.

  • @jessolagunle
    @jessolagunle Рік тому +1461

    At this point Michael’s only real friends with no ulterior motive was Elizabeth Taylor and Chris Tucker. Smh

  • @angelalabauve9131
    @angelalabauve9131 8 місяців тому +56

    Diana Ross was a legendary narcissist.....so sad that child stars like Michael are not protected.

    • @rupinderh01
      @rupinderh01 Місяць тому +1

      yes I totally agree with you

    • @fertusherring3476
      @fertusherring3476 Місяць тому +2

      Diana Ross is a "legendary" narcissist? Ambitious, yes. Narcissist, I think, is not even in the ballpark. Where do people get their information from? It is far more likely that she does not "bond" with others. She doesn't demonstrate the traits of a narcissist, which is something people with no psychological knowledge throw around whenever they want to say something damning about someone. People are jumping to absurd conclusions, based on hearsay (the old "Well, I heard that..." or some other nonsense).
      We used to respect facts. Now we just voice an opinion and don't care if it is factual or not. Such as "the election was stolen." and now "Diana Ross groomed Michael Jackson." Nuts. Michael Jackson's father would never let anyone else have any control over his kids. And if you're old enough, you know this from back in the '70s, when the Jacksons left Motown.
      P.S. I am no fan of Diana Ross. I liked her when she was with the Supremes, but as soon as it turned into DR & The Supremes, I was gone. That said, if people are going to bash someone, get your facts straight and leave the innuendo/rumors out of it.

  • @noranjoku7651
    @noranjoku7651 Рік тому +173

    Poor Michael. What a messed up situation. Like imagine being groomed from a young age by someone you really look up to, then you hit puberty and start having feelings for this person who then ends up taking advantage of this, manipulates you into believing you’re ✨the one✨for like half your adulthood only to end up marrying and having a family with someone else. That must’ve crushed him 😢 I wouldn’t even call it obsession but a sort of trauma. He could hardly live without Diana because that’s all he’d known

    • @504Chosenone
      @504Chosenone 2 місяці тому +10

      He did make a song called dirty Danna

    • @wellnesscloud9887
      @wellnesscloud9887 Місяць тому

      Reportedly, Michael was also groomed by a couple of members in the Shiites, and through the hands of his own father being passed around through “illuminati type“ members when he was very young, I wonder if Diana Ross knew anything about that, and anyway offered to protect him from thesepedophiles. Perhaps Michael felt that he was safest. He was with Diana Ross.

  • @VVilla-zh5mw
    @VVilla-zh5mw Рік тому +2076

    in MJ's recorded phone call , someone asked him "How long did it take you to get over Diana?" and he said _"Years . . . A hell long of a time."_ I feel so bad for Mike 😩

    • @danavixen6274
      @danavixen6274 Рік тому +333

      I believe Michael was enamored with Diana. There is not ENOUGH empathy for Michael when it comes to what he and many child stars are exposed to. Diana is a pioneering legend yet she can be a cold opportunist. Michael was too sensitive for her. I hope he is at peace now. 😔🙏🏾🕊️❤️

    • @alinagabrial6407
      @alinagabrial6407 Рік тому +65

      So sad😭

    • @teacherspet8835
      @teacherspet8835 Рік тому +128

      actually he didn't got over her until his last breath

    • @taylorsara1237
      @taylorsara1237 Рік тому +186

      He NEVER got over her. Just tried to make ppl think he did..
      He left a dedication on last album to her, saying he loved her more than ever...

    • @sohappytogether353
      @sohappytogether353 Рік тому +24

      @@teacherspet8835 exactly 💯

  • @debrastevenson709
    @debrastevenson709 Рік тому +72

    That's why Diana Ross would not dare show up for Michael's funeral because of the embarassment in how she treated Michael! She abused his love that he had for her and was very selfcentered!

  • @mimisamone1382
    @mimisamone1382 Рік тому +42

    She should be ashamed for treating him like that selfish and controlling

  • @r.g.murray3945
    @r.g.murray3945 Рік тому +275

    I've known about Michael & Diana's relationship, she was caught on video saying, "me and my man" and you could tell she was so proud to be with him. Michael on the other hand was shy about the relationship and she wanted people to see him like she saw him. He was definitely "the man" in her eye. I never believed any of the stories about him and kids; just another smear campaign by the 1% people at the top wanting to control certain people. Michael was even heard as saying "there are very powerful people" I knew what he was talking about. Just take a look at the entertainment industry and you can guess by those with the most money and fame are connected and have sold their souls to the devil. Michael Jackson loved children but not in a negative way. I think he was always just a big kid at heart.

    • @deannalassiter2088
      @deannalassiter2088 Рік тому +18

      I totally agree 💯

    • @JaeElise
      @JaeElise 3 місяці тому +30

      Also may I add before his death, he owned 50% of Sony’s Catalog. One thing about powerful people, they don’t like to share

    • @shernandez1581
      @shernandez1581 2 місяці тому +7

      The abused often times become a perpetrator. I honestly don't blame MJ. He was such a beautiful person and soul- but i won't make excuses for a grown man either. Regardless, he was toyed with and used by Ms. Ross, definitely, and so many other adults. MJ grew up to be so handsome, with no judgment here, but she should've controlled herself. But I feel he had no normal outlet and did things darkly as well. He should've been protected like all children and child entertainers. But he tried his best. That's why we can't fight battles alone. We need Jesus. May he rest in peace 🙏

    • @shernandez1581
      @shernandez1581 2 місяці тому +1

      @JaeElise lol true 👍

    • @Carol-dq8nj
      @Carol-dq8nj 2 місяці тому +2

      Wow! So you’re one of those people? Who believe what they want to believe. Do some research real research, and you will be very enlightened. There was no Cinderella story here. And why would you want them to be a couple? She was like a mother to him he was nine when she met him. Do you really think it’s OK that later on she would be with him sexually? Everyone could see why he would love being in love with her, but that’s strange as in his book is autobiography. He says she was like a mother sister lover to him. That’s not healthy. And lastly, please understand pedophiles are in many vocations leading very functional lives. It is very likely he he did do things with YoungBoy, but he never hurt them. How many times did he say that I could never hurt a child and he probably didn’t but that doesn’t mean he didn’t have sexual things with them. You don’t sleep in a twin bed as a man with a young boy, and not have sex come on. His father used to take him out of bed somewhere at all hours of the night when they were on tour and when he got back, he would cry for days. This is according to his brother Germaine in his book. I’m sorry to tell you all this, but it’s not healthy for you to believe in fantasies.

  • @sharitad.3688
    @sharitad.3688 Рік тому +1454

    My mom has been saying Diana groomed Michael for years. As I grew older, it was disturbing to find out she met him around 9 and he even lived with her. He was in love her. He should have never been sent to live with her. Calling her both mother and girlfriend is SICK!

    • @AlkalineInsides
      @AlkalineInsides Рік тому +61

      She didn't groom him. He got older and she fell into his administration for her by the time he was in his early 20s. She began to feel attracted to him by the time Off The Wall was coming out

    • @sharitad.3688
      @sharitad.3688 Рік тому +310

      @@AlkalineInsides it's grooming. They met when he was 9. A child. And after living with her he became "obsessed" with her and later started referring to her as he gf/mom. It's inappropriate and disgusting administration or not.

    • @AlkalineInsides
      @AlkalineInsides Рік тому +91

      @@sharitad.3688 he was obsessed with her before he even lived with her. MJ and his brothers lived with her because Berry Gordy asked her if she'd take them in. She said yes. MJ adored her the most- he had a crush on her and she treated him like a sister/mother. He got older (21) and she started to see him differently. It's easy to vilify her due to her other unsavory behaviors in her younger years, but "grooming" is such a stretch of a definition. It's kind of like people calling MJ a pedophile because he had such a beautiful genuine love for children. I guess he was grooming those kids too?

    • @theodorajackson6233
      @theodorajackson6233 Рік тому +142

      @@AlkalineInsides it's grooming look it up it's called grooming an underage child who can't defend themselves from serious situations like that

    • @elisageorge2261
      @elisageorge2261 Рік тому +123

      @@AlkalineInsides I agree with your entire comment.. However It's just that for me,a grown woman, and if a young man been around me since a kid.. I just wouldn't desire him even though he's grown into a man.. He's like family to me..

  • @globalcitizenn
    @globalcitizenn Рік тому +280

    I feel like the two people who did the most emotional/psychological damage to Michael Jackson were Joe Jackson and Diana Ross. And both were Narcissists. It set the empathic Michael up to be exploited by Narcissists all his life.

    • @ebonymoore525
      @ebonymoore525 Рік тому +22

      I agree. 💯

    • @granny58
      @granny58 Рік тому +6

      And he became an exploiter himself.

    • @kathleenroulston5437
      @kathleenroulston5437 9 місяців тому +12

      Well on MJ'S private tape recordings 2000, MJ actually says "it took me a long time to get over her, a hell of a long time."
      He also says something like "the relationship between her & him was mainly all in his mind"

    • @marcusscarterr33
      @marcusscarterr33 3 місяці тому +1

      ​@@kathleenroulston5437 not 2000s, it was the 90s.

    • @globalcitizenn
      @globalcitizenn 3 місяці тому +7

      @@granny58 You are parroting people who are exploiting him even in death.

  • @Genevieve4260
    @Genevieve4260 Рік тому +71

    I loved Diana Ross in "Mahogany" and "Lady Sings the Blues", but I have never really liked her "persona". She photographs beautifully as a model and is definitely talented, but you confirmed my aversion to her because she clearly is not a very nice person. To be so unfaithful and hurtful to people throughout her life is not a good character trait. She was mean to the Supremes, she played with Michael Jackson and she backstabbed Cher - yeah, that is not a good person. And for what? She was already super wealthy and well-known when she met Michael Jackson. I wish her no harm, but I have never really liked her and now I know why. I could see it in her face...something I could not quite put my finger on. This is an excellent video. Great job at bringing out the truth!

    • @trenastewart2599
      @trenastewart2599 2 місяці тому +10

      I totally agree with this statement. You nailed it and left nothing out.

    • @Carol-dq8nj
      @Carol-dq8nj Місяць тому +5

      Well said. I totally agree with you! And I hate people who say they wished they were a couple.

    • @uniqueunique3836
      @uniqueunique3836 Місяць тому +2

      Yep

  • @jaywilliams1942
    @jaywilliams1942 27 днів тому +5

    Allegedly, MJ’s solo version of the song “The Girl Is Mine” was a direct shot at Gene Simmons about Diana Ross.

  • @angelascharmedlife
    @angelascharmedlife Рік тому +1646

    I feel bad for Michael. You can be kind, beautiful, and talented and ppl will still treat you like trash. And I can't imagine knowing a child at nine and then sleeping with them as an adult. Gross.

    • @nonofyourbusiness8651
      @nonofyourbusiness8651 Рік тому +155

      LITERALLY... A whole 14 year age gap😭

    • @novacorps2468
      @novacorps2468 Рік тому +1

      She was a child predator
      Let's just call it for what it is.

    • @sheliabattle1129
      @sheliabattle1129 Рік тому +1

      Mike got robbed and used. THE INDUSTRY EVENTUALLY GETS THEM ALL. DIRTY DIANA, CLIVE, RECORD COMPANIES, BRITISH, AMERICAN GOVT. ..ITS ALL ABOUT DEBT AND DEBTORS.

    • @shennine7044
      @shennine7044 Рік тому +89

      That is truly sick! She was extremely talented though.. wish she also had the heart to go along with the talent.

    • @taylorsara1237
      @taylorsara1237 Рік тому +92

      What's sick a/b it? He was grown!
      Priscilla was only 14 when Elvis started 'doing her' That's my definition of sick!

  • @ladyhotep5189
    @ladyhotep5189 Рік тому +1527

    Juicy.
    **poor Michael. I really did not realize how deep that relationship with Diana Ross was.

    • @KarineAlourde
      @KarineAlourde  Рік тому +315

      I genuinely was sad watching all the documentaries and seeing his mom talk about it. The media made his mom sound like a hater and bitter but she was just keeping real 😭

    • @faizahassan8167
      @faizahassan8167 Рік тому +70

      @@KarineAlourde Hey I remember seeing the michael jackson breakdown on your channel, are you going to make another one? thank you, i love your videos!

    • @KarineAlourde
      @KarineAlourde  Рік тому +77

      @@faizahassan8167 yes very very soon. A more in depth one 💖

    • @falanajerido875
      @falanajerido875 Рік тому +29

      Don't believe everything you hear

    • @birdielee6718
      @birdielee6718 Рік тому +66

      @@falanajerido875 anything you hear in hollyweird is TRUE...

  • @lisal29
    @lisal29 11 місяців тому +47

    My sister's mom was one of the supreme before it was 3 , there was 4.
    2. My nephew's mom' grandmother is Diana's cousin.
    3. My best friend that I grew up, great uncle is Greg Gordy' Berry older brother and use to tell us story about Michael Jackson, which I love. He always talks about how he helped with the business of Motown. I really miss those days. I have seen pictures of Michael and my friend. Michael was so kind and sweet.

    • @kavericornett6748
      @kavericornett6748 21 день тому

      I always loved MJ & feel he was demonized because he started to rail against the agenda & the spell acts were kept under

  • @renegadetherapper
    @renegadetherapper 8 місяців тому +41

    I’ve been thinking this for a long time. She had him on his show when he was like 8 or 9, and doing a skit with him where she pretend she’s his wife. That little boy was smitten from the start. Then he gets older and she calls him sexy, gets real flirty……… then marries someone else. She made him fall for her since he was a child, groomed him into staying in love as an adult, breaks his heart after leading him on for most of his young life and then he has to just get over that? Sheesh. Man. Heart breaking.
    I don’t hate Diana Ross, I wish her a good rest in peace, and I have immense respect for her legacy especially since she’s part of my favorite singer’s favorite band (Amy Winehouse loved the supremes). But we gotta admit that was dirty.
    Dirty Diana

    • @nicholasgreen339
      @nicholasgreen339 2 місяці тому

      That show was in 1969
      Mj was 11 he was born in
      1958

    • @mireilleboeli4099
      @mireilleboeli4099 2 місяці тому +2

      Yeah,I saw that skit.Although Michael is his acting was toppie ,it was weird.Diana always knew that he was madly in love with her ,but she on the other hand wasn't.I think she found him very attractive and sexy when he got older.She began flirting(Diana always was very flirty with men)with him and giving all the wrong signs.Nah miss Ross!👎

    • @tamara_diamonds422
      @tamara_diamonds422 12 днів тому +1

      @@nicholasgreen339we don’t need to be technical with his age. The whole point. He was still young.

  • @ladybird491
    @ladybird491 Рік тому +382

    She was a narcissist. Thirsting for someone as soon as they got attention yet you kept dismissing them before is definitely a narc trait.

    • @msatutude17
      @msatutude17 Рік тому +14

      Then yo keep reeling Mike back in wvrytine he moved on just bc she didn't want to see him with anyone else

    • @truthbetold6011
      @truthbetold6011 Рік тому +11

      Was?

    • @j.decole5372
      @j.decole5372 Рік тому +14

      My thoughts exactly hearing about when he tried to move on she’d pop back up acting jealous smh

    • @NavySharkz
      @NavySharkz Рік тому +1

      ​@@truthbetold6011 😂

    • @Ezarhia
      @Ezarhia 3 місяці тому +11

      Definitely a narcissist

  • @julierobinson8173
    @julierobinson8173 Рік тому +164

    How could she sleep with a man she knew as a child?!🤦🏽‍♀️ all famous people are crazy 🤪

    • @AlkalineInsides
      @AlkalineInsides Рік тому +16

      He was becoming powerful and she saw it (Off The Wall/ Wiz era) It becomes a turn on after a while. Especially once he was of proper legal age. He was also obsessed with her...and perhaps she felt she could finally give him what he wanted. Then it got complicated, because she didn't care too much for how shy he was off stage.

    • @globalcitizenn
      @globalcitizenn Рік тому

      @@AlkalineInsides you’re right. Power turns her on. MJ got powerful.

    • @jillybe1873
      @jillybe1873 Рік тому +19

      You would be surprised how common this is

    • @granny58
      @granny58 Рік тому +10

      They become famous because they have what it takes to use and walk all over people without remorse. Narcissists.

    • @TheSoulfulScorpio-cp8ry
      @TheSoulfulScorpio-cp8ry 2 місяці тому +5

      Who knows, she could've had him before that. You never know until you know..

  • @1Spunky
    @1Spunky Рік тому +113

    I didn’t understand the fascination with Diana Ross; I didn’t think she was as good as the hype.

    • @greenlybeanly2839
      @greenlybeanly2839 2 місяці тому +16

      Yeah I personally don’t like the way she sings, I never have

    • @kimoraanderson-
      @kimoraanderson- 2 місяці тому +2

      Fr

    • @dchild
      @dchild 2 місяці тому +3

      During the supremes, it was the glamour and elegance but I agree it’s just that. To appeal and crossover because of greedy berry. A few hits after but definitely not a singer

    • @miranduri
      @miranduri 2 місяці тому

      Awful singer.

    • @juliavandermeer2740
      @juliavandermeer2740 2 місяці тому +4

      True, I liked some of her songs, but I never really liked her voice.

  • @JeannieMitchellMyers
    @JeannieMitchellMyers Рік тому +219

    May MJ rest in peace, my goodness, he went through so much!

  • @JustTodaysDay
    @JustTodaysDay Рік тому +428

    I spoke on this before about women taking advantage of children and it being glorified especially within our community. As if it doesn’t cause psychological damage.

    • @Alchewand
      @Alchewand Рік тому +40

      This happens in all communities btw not jus our community but regardless it needs to be addressed.

    • @skip031890
      @skip031890 Рік тому +7

      @@Alchewand It happens MORE in your community. That's the point. 🙄

    • @reasy1978
      @reasy1978 Рік тому

      Thank you! Even now, these female entertainers are perverts and no different from the men. Thats why Lizzy could comfortably be around children at a ball game with her whole prune shaped ass out.

    • @Alchewand
      @Alchewand Рік тому

      @@skip031890 it actually doesn’t and I can tell you’re speaking from a non statistical perspective so stop being dense.

    • @skip031890
      @skip031890 Рік тому +4

      @@Alchewand keep telling yourself that.

  • @missknight1787
    @missknight1787 Рік тому +24

    Awesome video! As a kid, my Mom always told me MJ was in love with Diana, but I never knew to this extent. Dirty Diana... She did MJ terribly wrong, poor kid. Broke his heart too, wow. I'm a new subscriber and I'm loving these videos. Keep'em coming! Great Work!!!!!!

  • @Lonniepsangel
    @Lonniepsangel Рік тому +1

    Just wonderful as always! Thank you!

  • @vernavillanueva5457
    @vernavillanueva5457 Рік тому +1224

    "Dirty Diana", "Remember the Time" , "I just can't stop Loving you" and "Who is it" I heard that all this songs MJ wrote for Diana , I don't know if we should thank Diana for song inspiration or not 💀 all this songs are banger and hits 😣

    • @roshellegouldbourne787
      @roshellegouldbourne787 Рік тому +112

      Thank you for mentioning these songs, I never knew any of this, my mouth was open for the entire video. I wish a Man loved me so much he wrote songs about me but I wouldn't break his heart.

    • @harperproduction3935
      @harperproduction3935 Рік тому +50

      OMG! Those songs? My jaw is on the floor

    • @taylorsara1237
      @taylorsara1237 Рік тому +155

      Wayyyy more than that.
      Im so blue
      Dangerous
      Dont walk away
      I cant let her get away
      Super fly Sis
      Even Blue gangster- where he blows her cover n says:
      Said you'd be my wife!
      - Nothin but big LIES!!
      Now I can never fall in love _ ( meaning w/ s'one else )
      He was hopelessly in love w/ her. That's why his mom said he was TOO in love with her n it was unhealthy...

    • @audreacosme8777
      @audreacosme8777 Рік тому +28

      @@taylorsara1237 Thank you for this! I had no idea!!!

    • @afelton
      @afelton Рік тому +40

      According to Teddy Riley, Remember the time was written by him. Teddy Riley was writing about a girlfriend of his

  • @starrpeoples7195
    @starrpeoples7195 Рік тому +429

    MJ can never be cancelled

    • @shanejive6292
      @shanejive6292 Рік тому +16

      Not cancelled cause the music is good, but people are aware of what he did with children.

    • @blondie7389
      @blondie7389 Рік тому +3

      🗣🔥👏🏽💪🏾🙏🏽🪩

    • @blondie7389
      @blondie7389 Рік тому +72

      @@shanejive6292 false allegations he was acquitted of 😢

    • @Monstergaming-qm2tm
      @Monstergaming-qm2tm Рік тому +26

      @@shanejive6292 evidence????

    • @granny58
      @granny58 Рік тому +3

      @@Monstergaming-qm2tm open your eyes

  • @mariefray7014
    @mariefray7014 Місяць тому +1

    I appreciate you for sharing this video.❤

  • @andiestewart7423
    @andiestewart7423 2 місяці тому +4

    Dayummm! I knew none of that tea! Good job👍

  • @Kanatshi
    @Kanatshi Рік тому +180

    She led MJ on

    • @Hi.Shadow
      @Hi.Shadow Рік тому +24

      Big time!

    • @faizahassan8167
      @faizahassan8167 Рік тому +37

      Yeah he said in a recorded phone call that she started to make a game out of things

    • @Hi.Shadow
      @Hi.Shadow Рік тому +19

      @@faizahassan8167 yes!!!! I hope Karine can do a review of the Glenda Tapes, it will reveal so much!

    • @faizahassan8167
      @faizahassan8167 Рік тому +6

      @@Hi.Shadow omg right!! they reveal so much about what was going on in his mind

    • @amorelockster1023
      @amorelockster1023 Рік тому +1

      She was a predator a groomer just disgusting

  • @AJ-uc8ow
    @AJ-uc8ow Рік тому +231

    I cannot wait for your deep dive on Michael! His obsession w/Dianna Ross explains a lot, so sad the industry took so much advantage of him.

    • @daryltracy7949
      @daryltracy7949 Рік тому +1

      She already did one

    • @SpiceyKy
      @SpiceyKy Рік тому +7

      @@daryltracy7949 Well, she stated in THIS video that one is coming.

    • @teacherspet8835
      @teacherspet8835 Рік тому +10

      Michael also had a huge poster of Diana in his bathroom. And in one interview with Oprah (after the divorce) Lisa Marie Presley said she has no advantage to Diana when it comes to Michael's attention. And also Tatum O'Neil in an interview, their relationship didn't last because Michael Jackson was in love with Diana Ross.

    • @daryltracy7949
      @daryltracy7949 Рік тому +1

      @@teacherspet8835 Please give me the link of where Lisa said that

    • @aarondigby5054
      @aarondigby5054 Рік тому

      @@SpiceyKy MJ married Elvis Pressley's daughter Maria. So what was that all about. Yeah, Dianna was a project cock blocking where, very manipulative, like your typical trap ho.

  • @melissasweeting-percentie6679
    @melissasweeting-percentie6679 Рік тому +1

    You are doing an incredible job with your videos!! Thank you.

  • @hellooutthere8956
    @hellooutthere8956 Рік тому +10

    I love the way she explained tht positive/negative mindset.

  • @linnettemcneal8788
    @linnettemcneal8788 Рік тому +114

    Never was a fan of Diana. Florence had the best voice of the Supremes. I love Cher. I loved MJ he passed on my birthday😓😓. Diana is all about herself.

    • @piscesempress1978
      @piscesempress1978 Рік тому +12

      @@happydrunkmeansober Diana had the look and the voice that was "White" enough. thats why...

    • @AlkalineInsides
      @AlkalineInsides Рік тому +2

      I love me some Flo. But she just didn't have this great "voice" people claim. And it didn't have the appeal to rise the supremes to the top

    • @AlkalineInsides
      @AlkalineInsides Рік тому +3

      @@happydrunkmeansober Faaaacts... people were always so mean about Diana just because Berry appointed her to lead the group. She went with it and took it serious and did a fantastic job. She was a hard worker. And knew she had a different art to offer. It's those eyes for me and that swag

    • @AlkalineInsides
      @AlkalineInsides Рік тому

      @@happydrunkmeansober and it's so annoying. Not many know; toward the end of The Supremes...Diana personally asked Mary "what do you want to do after this?"...and Mary's response was "I don't know...maybe to get Married" lol. I mean.. Diana had a complete vision for HERSELF. NOTHING wrong with that. She was YOUNG during a PIONEERING era.. from the "HOOD"... it IS a rags to riches and ambitious story.

  • @gypsygirl9
    @gypsygirl9 Рік тому +99

    Doesn't seem she was very nice. Rather self absorbed.

    • @baddiezone
      @baddiezone Рік тому +15

      I’ve always got real self-absorbed vibes from her I can’t explain it

    • @faa1412
      @faa1412 Рік тому

      Probably someone high on the narcissistic spectrum without actually having NPD.

    • @MyName-pl7zn
      @MyName-pl7zn Рік тому +1

      One of the original divas

    • @Lucy-iy9ni
      @Lucy-iy9ni 22 дні тому

      Diana was a class act and very intelligent woman, we all make mistakes.

  • @blakebrown84
    @blakebrown84 Рік тому +92

    Diana Ross is a legend in the music business. She goes from being in the group called The Supremes in the 60s to leave the group to go solo. She did well as a solo artist selling millions of records and still making music and touring til this day. Berry Gordy did messed up the Supremes by playing favoritism toward her over Florence Ballard and Mary Wilson. Also, she didn’t have a lot of friends because there were a lot of people that didn’t like her personality. She also failed to make peace with The Supremes.

    • @raycarter8070
      @raycarter8070 Рік тому +3

      I love all three ladies so much! Have ten vinyls. But wrong is wrong. I liked it that Diana talked about this in interviews and her last studio album.

    • @blakebrown84
      @blakebrown84 Рік тому +6

      All of the original Supremes are dead and gone except Ross. We would have loved the reunion, but it never happen. Ross made peace with Mary Wilson before she died.

    • @bmwjourdandunngoddess6024
      @bmwjourdandunngoddess6024 Рік тому +3

      FLO and Mary didn’t have the voice. NEXT.

    • @blakebrown84
      @blakebrown84 9 місяців тому +4

      Yeah that was the case. They started feeling some resentment towards her. I don’t think Florence liked Diana.

  • @IshtheStomach
    @IshtheStomach Рік тому +1

    The intro to this video, specifically the Quote from the legend herself is the first UA-cam clip I ever pulled out and shared. You picked a perfect one!

  • @BrendaB86
    @BrendaB86 Рік тому +1364

    I love her music, but Ms. Ross was very very toxic. She did MJ wrong and it saddens me because he really and truly loved her to the point of obsession. His songs “Who Is It”, “Heartbreaker”, “Give In To Me”, and many more, are said to also be about her. She caused that man a lot of pain.

    • @CodyCole80
      @CodyCole80 Рік тому +167

      And she reaped her seeds when her husband Arne “allegedly” dumped her for his younger, pregnant girlfriend. That man sent her into spells of depression and alcoholism till the day he died, and it doesn’t seem like she’s had a significant relationship since.

    • @pheephee1712
      @pheephee1712 Рік тому +72

      The way I feel about celebrities I separate their art form from what they are at any other time-

    • @CodyCole80
      @CodyCole80 Рік тому +47

      @@pheephee1712 It depends on what they do in their personal lives.

    • @faa1412
      @faa1412 Рік тому +57

      @@CodyCole80 Meanwhile Michael wanted to give her the world!

    • @annmariebusu9924
      @annmariebusu9924 Рік тому +10

      @@CodyCole80 on national tv 😲. I need to find that video 😏

  • @loveboxing1994
    @loveboxing1994 Рік тому +576

    Have you done Janet Jackson? I really like her transition from tomboy to WOMAN but keeping both elements of masculine and feminine balanced throughout her career/life. Latoya Jackson would also be an interesting breakdown. She was highly sought out by famous men but was just as shy as Michael lol

    • @natalie8105
      @natalie8105 Рік тому +84

      Glad you mentioned how she had the perfect balance of tomboy and woman . One article I read described her song “ if “ as the perfect balance of masculine and feminine

    • @cressapellom4205
      @cressapellom4205 Рік тому

      You mean how she went from tomboy to being slutty...

    • @yahsway777
      @yahsway777 Рік тому +8

      Janet tells her own story on hulu

    • @lindairvine993
      @lindairvine993 Рік тому

      ​@@natalie8105 6 y

    • @AmericanMayan
      @AmericanMayan Рік тому +1

      possibly because Janet may have been born a boy

  • @gerrettafisher4758
    @gerrettafisher4758 9 місяців тому +17

    Diana is a legend and trifling with my boy MJ….like WTH?!! Good ol Hollywood…

  • @princesskristan
    @princesskristan 11 місяців тому +8

    I started listening to Diana's music after watching The Wiz for the first time when I was 8 or 10. My favorite songs were Upside down and Love Hangover but after hearing Muscles because of MJ writing it for her and did background vocals, that became my number one favorite. I knew that Michael and some of his brothers lived with her, but I never knew about the other stuff. My jaw is on the floor, and I truly believe MJ never got over Diana

  • @lmerryS
    @lmerryS Рік тому +234

    I still listen to Michael Jackson. He is one of a kind, the one and only! I love his music forever!

    • @user-cr3py6py6j
      @user-cr3py6py6j 2 місяці тому

      I do as well. Born a year apart from Michael so he had been my favourite person even beyond his tragic passing. Miss him but listen and watch him daily.

  • @colemelendez8966
    @colemelendez8966 Рік тому +347

    I AM HERE FOR MICHAEL THE KING OF POP✨

  • @maisondusuave
    @maisondusuave 2 місяці тому

    Thank you. Love your stuff.

  • @stephfmidwest9331
    @stephfmidwest9331 2 місяці тому +4

    i was literally in the middle of typing to speak on how much he looked like her after he began getting plastic surgery, when you mentioned it yourself in the video.

  • @preciousone9377
    @preciousone9377 Рік тому +184

    If you recall Michael named Diana as the person he wanted to take care of his kids, but she respectfully declined to raise the kids and said she would be there for them whenever they need her.

    • @globalcitizenn
      @globalcitizenn Рік тому

      Michael had wisened up to what Diana was like. And he’d have Elizabeth Taylor raise his kids before Diana. All his children had Godfathers and Godmothers and none of them was Diana. He was responsible about his children. He wouldn’t give them to someone even he couldn’t trust. It’s just more evidence the will is fake.

    • @louisepalm4792
      @louisepalm4792 Рік тому +44

      If you recall she didn't attend his funeral.

    • @festiverosebud3923
      @festiverosebud3923 Рік тому +37

      @@louisepalm4792 that was always weird to me she didn’t attend his funeral

    • @EuqinimodArt
      @EuqinimodArt Рік тому +20

      @@louisepalm4792 She didn’t?? That’s terrible. Ironically his daughter is friends with Diana’s young son.

    • @Jhmmmy
      @Jhmmmy Рік тому +4

      @@EuqinimodArt she went to the private one.

  • @charjay3318
    @charjay3318 Рік тому +230

    I remember Michael Jackson and Diana Ross; yet thought he had a "crush" on her. I didn't know that he lived with her or proposed to her!
    Diana Ross and the Supremes were one of my Dad's favorite groups. Sometimes I cannot bear to listen to her songs because they make me feel melancholy. When my dad was in hospice, he and I listened to "Someday we'll be together" and he just nodded his head and smiled. My dad passed in 2006 and I still have difficulty listening to Diana Ross. Great Video! Enjoy your commentary!

    • @rvegas81
      @rvegas81 Рік тому +2

      For me, her work is with the Supremes stands out compared to every one else!

    • @taylorsara1237
      @taylorsara1237 Рік тому +9

      Im sorry for ur loss. My dad is gone too. But its comforting to know he's not suffering anymore. Just know that one day we WiLL see them again...

    • @handsome-brute2666
      @handsome-brute2666 Рік тому +4

      A 9 -10 year old MJ lived with Di..a boys first female impression is his mom of course...then she came along

    • @Arienhn
      @Arienhn Рік тому +4

      Actually, Michael and his brothers never lived with Diana. Michael sort of mentions as such in a set of tapes, and Jermaine Jackson, his brother, said the same in his book. This as well as the idea of her discovering them were things just for show.

    • @handsome-brute2666
      @handsome-brute2666 Рік тому +3

      Most boys👦first impressions ARE on older females because of their mom's😉😁

  • @lolatruitt1441
    @lolatruitt1441 Рік тому +2

    Girl you’re spilling tea for real I had no idea that that was even a situation I thought she was more of a mentor to Micheal

  • @afmcmurray27
    @afmcmurray27 Рік тому +1

    I absolutely love all you're stuff

  • @LynnT39
    @LynnT39 Рік тому +161

    When I was young, I heard that Michael was obsessed with Diana Ross and wanted to marry her, but I heard she stayed away from him because of his obsession with her. I never knew the two actually had a relationship and was engaged. Wow!

    • @leslivingston7791
      @leslivingston7791 Рік тому +7

      Me too...I remember...

    • @taylorsara1237
      @taylorsara1237 Рік тому +38

      Yes they were. He planned a big wedding in 🇨🇭
      Switzerland. That was his dream
      But his mom told Di off and ran her away. MJ was always in love with her n never gave up... Sadly

    • @ernst9100
      @ernst9100 Рік тому +1

      At least from this now we know MJ was not gay and actually had sex with Diana.That should shut off the rumours that have been peddled during his life that he was gay and a weirdo who had a thing for small boys

    • @SimplyBeingTT
      @SimplyBeingTT Рік тому +5

      She didn't stay away from him.

    • @taylorsara1237
      @taylorsara1237 Рік тому +17

      @@SimplyBeingTT
      Right. She didn't. She just let ppl THINK she did...

  • @jinxk.7611
    @jinxk.7611 Рік тому +423

    She lost an entire nation of supporters when she came to Jamaica for our Jazz & Blues Festival in the mid 2000s and refused to be shown on screen for patrons with "general" tickets to see her perform live. One audience member went as far as to say "she is ugly anyway". Apparently it was her vanity and insecurity of her appearance at the time.

    • @annmariebusu9924
      @annmariebusu9924 Рік тому +23

      I don’t even remember 😂. I remember Celine Dion coming and it being a big deal amongst the men. Didn’t know she came to Jamaica

    • @leslivingston7791
      @leslivingston7791 Рік тому +37

      Not the first...Detroit been not fooling with Diana...I was surprised, but learned why...

    • @taylorsara1237
      @taylorsara1237 Рік тому +41

      Im sure that was NOT the reason. And she's quite beautiful...
      Ppl just looking for a reason to hate on s'one..

    • @midorithemogul
      @midorithemogul Рік тому +2

      @@taylorsara1237 they didn't like her because she is an evil bitch. Simple.

    • @jomene1125
      @jomene1125 Рік тому +12

      @@taylorsara1237 thank you

  • @rozellamoss3482
    @rozellamoss3482 Рік тому +1

    GREAT JOB !!!!

  • @valrice817
    @valrice817 9 місяців тому +11

    She lived her life by her own terms! I remember watching her concert in Central Park when it started to rain. She asked someone to bring her a coat that was fur and then kept singing in the rain! I loved every minute of it! Thanks for the video! 😊

  • @mariarivera5354
    @mariarivera5354 Рік тому +149

    I always felt sad for MJ. He endured so much physical mental and emotional abuse from his father hile his mother stood by and did nothing. She was also abused as well. Then as an adult it continued , yet his talents and resilience took him to the top and there will never be anyone that can even compare to him. He is thhe King. ❤😢

    • @aarondigby5054
      @aarondigby5054 Рік тому +2

      MJ=King of pop.

    • @aarondigby5054
      @aarondigby5054 Рік тому +9

      They are overstating Diana's beauty, too pop eyed and skinny. It was makeup and costumes that gave her a semblance of beauty.

    • @gracegreen1859
      @gracegreen1859 4 місяці тому

      @@aarondigby5054just say you hate Black women and move on

    • @primesspct2
      @primesspct2 3 місяці тому +1

      Much of what you said is very true. I think he wanted to be resilient, and he tried to get past his problems. But very obviously he wasn't resilient enough. She could have said F it all, I am going to marry him . I love him, I don't care what people think! Maybe if they had, he would still be alive. At the same time everyone looked at her as a predator, and maybe she was.
      I think hooking up so fast with so many other men, would have been extremely hurtful.

    • @UlrichW-mm8yz
      @UlrichW-mm8yz 3 місяці тому +1

      @@aarondigby5054 That can be said of about every so-called beauty. Nope, sorry--that black woman was gorgeous! And not everyone likes thick big booty women my man! In many cultures, large eyes are a very coveted trait, and some just don't know what to do with large eyes--just as many believe Bette Davis to be beautiful as believe her to be plain.

  • @cocoaorange1
    @cocoaorange1 Рік тому +88

    I recall when Michael was in Monaco to receive an award, it was rumored he was dating Princess Stephanie, I recall Diana sat on his lap serenading him. He blushed. My mom stated "I know he is not that hard for a woman". LOL!

    • @SpongeMPCGirl
      @SpongeMPCGirl Рік тому +22

      She kissed him during that performace too, Diana was wild lmao

    • @jihangamal5823
      @jihangamal5823 Рік тому +11

      She gave her back to Stephanie too lol

    • @globalcitizenn
      @globalcitizenn Рік тому

      She was jealous of Princess Stephanie. Just like she sat on his lap when was out with Madonna. And when she inserted herself between Michael & Elizabeth on stage. Or jumped Michael’s bones (seduced him/slept with him) when he was dating Stephanie Mills & Tatum O’Neill. She wanted to show off to these women & mark him as her territory

    • @valencia9981
      @valencia9981 Рік тому +4

      @@jihangamal5823 she did😂

    • @taylorsara1237
      @taylorsara1237 Рік тому +10

      He was NOT dating Steph at all. She was there with her hubby!!
      And MJ pulled Diana into his lap and held her tight like he"d never let go.. Remember how mesmerized he was? Diana was the LOHL, Steph knew she had no chance...

  • @reginacummings1736
    @reginacummings1736 Рік тому

    You did a good job on this one Karine. I am going to listen to the rest of your videos.

  • @terinunes604
    @terinunes604 Рік тому +1

    Thank you this was interesting 😊

  • @Lindamorena
    @Lindamorena Рік тому +246

    I love her music and public persona, but my grandmother was a hotel clearing in the 70s and she said Ms. Ross was very mean and nasty to her. This broke my heart. 💔
    It's weird because I love how she seems on TV.

    • @ElisiasEvolution
      @ElisiasEvolution Рік тому +56

      They act on tv

    • @AlkalineInsides
      @AlkalineInsides Рік тому +27

      Diana has admit she's been testy and rude and that she's worked on getting better. She's human. On other accounts...many have also had great experiences with Diana Ross. Unfortunately your grandmother didn't. Sorry to hear.

    • @Lindamorena
      @Lindamorena Рік тому +25

      @@AlkalineInsides thank you for saying. It does help to know she acknowledged her past flaws and improved her personality.

    • @megang1712
      @megang1712 Рік тому +20

      @@AlkalineInsides I met Diana a few years ago and she was sweet and omg an undeniable presence that I’ve never experienced before. I bet she’s grown a lot since the 80 & 90’s

    • @Sanmijil
      @Sanmijil Рік тому +17

      That honestly is not that surprising look at her eyes

  • @queenreg7
    @queenreg7 Рік тому +141

    Diana Ross is something else! Totally focused on what she wants out of life and doesn’t let anyone or anything stand in her way. A whole lot of drama in her wake.

    • @larryanderson7956
      @larryanderson7956 Рік тому +29

      She is an egoist

    • @SoldierOfLoveForNow
      @SoldierOfLoveForNow Рік тому +24

      It's not something else its narcissism

    • @taylorsara253
      @taylorsara253 Рік тому +8

      Weird _ how if she was a man, that trait would be called focus and Ambition!!
      Only on a woman does it seem to become a negative...

    • @queenreg7
      @queenreg7 Рік тому +14

      @@taylorsara253 That is so true. I don’t find it an attractive trait in anyone, regardless of gender.

    • @bmwjourdandunngoddess6024
      @bmwjourdandunngoddess6024 Рік тому

      Y’all hate Black women who want to succeed in life.

  • @sharonalexa
    @sharonalexa Рік тому

    Upside Down song is my fav 👑. You do such an amazing job on every vid! Ty for your hard work. Love your sense of humour too.

  • @user-sr7sg5vo8t
    @user-sr7sg5vo8t Рік тому +3

    Wow, I didn't know anything about that! Why there wasn't more exposure of this? I often saw tributes to Michael from children of Diana on IG and it always make me feel like he was a really closed friend but the reality seems so different now that I watch your video Karine! I'm shocked. The world of celebrities is a really a dark place.

    • @jaywilliams1942
      @jaywilliams1942 Місяць тому

      This was well known in the early eighties, and some people even applauded it. However, when Diana started receiving negative press about it, her people and Michael’s camp did a great job of making the story go away.

  • @jazzymoni7750
    @jazzymoni7750 Рік тому +456

    She is the purest form of "Blind Ambition" I've ever seen. When I read "Call Her Miss Ross" several years ago, it shed light on why Mary Wilson had so much animosity towards her, along with so many other Motown stars. Regardless of her controversial rise to the top, no one can deny her dominance and sheer work ethic. The dynamic between her and MJ was always a little strange but no one ever spoke of it because it was spun as a big sister/little brother relationship. To hear all this now as a GenX is really sad.

    • @taylorsara1237
      @taylorsara1237 Рік тому +1

      That book was discredited by everyone who knew her!! Randy Tamborelli has been declared one of the biggest/ most vicious/ lying/ unmitigated Gossips in hollywood!! No one in their right mind would believe what he says! He ✍ whatever U PAY HIM TO SAY!- Are u kidding? He's the Enquirer of the Literary Sect. I can't believe u quoted that gossip rag as if it had ANY credibility!! BTW, he was sued for that book- and LOST!!

    • @taylorsara253
      @taylorsara253 Рік тому +9

      That book was lies and garbage just like all of Randy's books..

    • @erossinema8797
      @erossinema8797 Рік тому +9

      Apparently that is what it takes to get to the top. You don't get to the top by being nice. Remember she came from nothing...Her family was kind of poor. She couldnt write songs or music like Madonna and Taylor Swift can

    • @taylorsara1237
      @taylorsara1237 Рік тому +13

      @@erossinema8797 She COULD have written and DID write a few songs. And Ev'thg Tamborello said in that 📖 is false. ALL of his 📚 are full of lies. Even The Jackson's said that...

    • @erossinema8797
      @erossinema8797 Рік тому +7

      @@taylorsara253 , If it was lies, Randy must be one talented writer obsessed with black entertainers. I couldn't put "Call Her Miss Ross" down until I finished reading it.

  • @Lu31ishLu
    @Lu31ishLu Рік тому +31

    As a child I always felt like something didn’t add up between them.. this confirms it all

  • @amb7412
    @amb7412 Рік тому

    Thank you I enjoyed this video. Big fans of both.

  • @wasabiginger6993
    @wasabiginger6993 Рік тому +4

    Thank you for this enlightening video. I have been doing deep dives on Michael Jackson wanting to fully understand the truth of ALL he endured, as well as about his death. So I did come across things said about Ross and MJ … but there are so many lies out there I held back believing them … until hearing your findings. So again, thank you. Between getting beaten by his dad and then the way Ross treated him … any wonder another great reason for his fantasy estate to escape it all?!? Given all I have learned, not sure he would want to come back to do it again. Tina Turner stated towards the end of her life about her life that the negative outweighed the positive. May she rest in deep peace & love.

  • @tiffani5353
    @tiffani5353 Рік тому +157

    That's not cool what she did to Michael. Completely toxic and it should have been called out.

    • @AlkalineInsides
      @AlkalineInsides Рік тому +3

      I'm sure there are some things about you that need to be called out. But I hear you.

    • @tiffani5353
      @tiffani5353 Рік тому +5

      @@AlkalineInsides I'm sure the same goes for you too.

    • @AlkalineInsides
      @AlkalineInsides Рік тому +3

      @@tiffani5353 absolutely. So no need to cast stones as if you're such a perfect person.

    • @tiffani5353
      @tiffani5353 Рік тому +4

      @@AlkalineInsides I never casted a stone, I just simply stated the truth. As I did in my original comment. You tried it by bringing me in it. So you got the same energy that you came at me with.

    • @tiffani5353
      @tiffani5353 Рік тому +1

      @@AlkalineInsides No need to get defensive

  • @shenyae4143
    @shenyae4143 Рік тому +99

    Diana Ross didn’t even have the decency to attend his funeral. I have no respect for that thing.

    • @AlkalineInsides
      @AlkalineInsides Рік тому +10

      She couldn't accept the truth and didn't want to see him that way in that casket

    • @globalcitizenn
      @globalcitizenn Рік тому +29

      @@AlkalineInsides his casket was closed.

    • @MomoKanjaki
      @MomoKanjaki Рік тому +28

      "that thing" 😭

    • @jojosurrayyah
      @jojosurrayyah 3 місяці тому +5

      😂😂😂😂😂​@@MomoKanjaki

    • @dennisjacks7923
      @dennisjacks7923 3 місяці тому +3

      That wasn't his funeral, what was held at the Staples Centre, that was a service memorial for his fans. The proceeds were donated to charity.

  • @mychelesunflower116
    @mychelesunflower116 Рік тому +1

    Karine great video ! I love both of them and they both are legends. All of these artists are flawed ….lol w/controversy but I still love them same.

  • @ofajim1
    @ofajim1 Рік тому +6

    Not sure why Diana is being villainized. She seemed to genuinely care about Michael, but the agist, misogynistic media tore her apart, as they do women who are older in age gap relationships. Diana is a legend.

  • @jlcii
    @jlcii Рік тому +696

    I am not a Diana Ross fan at all, because she has been very shady, and I've never thought she was that good of a singer. But I will say that there are a couple of songs by her that I like (missing you is a favorite), she definitely is a fashion icon, and her movies were actually pretty good. But it just seems like she had a lot of drama with a lot of people. She disrespected her fellow ladies in the supremes, she disrespected other artists including Patti labelle, she had the baby with Berry Gordy while he was married-and lied about it until that child was a preteen, and she should have never played the role of Dorothy in The Wiz; that should have been Stephanie Mills all day long (who, by the way, kissing Diana's ass under a table any day). The part that bothers me the most is she has never apologized about any of the stuff she has done, or at least not publicly. Mary Wilson and Florence Ballard both are gone now, and Diana never made peace with those women. Diana Ross has her legacy for what it is, because yes she is talented and she did make her mark. But she ain't my cup of tea personally

    • @cheriedaniels7965
      @cheriedaniels7965 Рік тому +73

      My sentiments exactly 💯

    • @marissawilson4644
      @marissawilson4644 Рік тому +91

      Not to mention that Stephanie had a thing for MJ. Oooh chile!

    • @storiking650
      @storiking650 Рік тому +2

      THANK YOU, SHE'S PURE-T TRASH, she was a disgusting mean girl, who would do any & everything to tear down & compromise other female artists like Gladys Knight, Mary Reeves, Mary Wilson & Florence Ballard. She's a shark & that's why the fates made it so that the very thing happened to her that she didn't want to & that was, growing old alone & that's precisely what happened to her!!!!!!!

    • @falanajerido875
      @falanajerido875 Рік тому +31

      And you telling the truth

    • @andya1744
      @andya1744 Рік тому +41

      Hit the nail on the head!

  • @merricat3025
    @merricat3025 Рік тому +142

    I really don't like Diana ross. How she treated the other Supremes is disgusting.. She's just another user

    • @sexythicknj
      @sexythicknj Рік тому +16

      When one of the members died, you’d think Diana would’ve helped with the funeral. O girl didn’t even have a tomb stone that’s how poor she was living in the projects. Shame on Diana. SMH

    • @taylorsara1237
      @taylorsara1237 Рік тому +16

      @@sexythicknj That's a damn lie! She not only paid for Flo's whole funeral, but she gave her daughters money and paid off Mary's house!!
      WTF! Yall just make shyt up about ppl! Its ridiculous...

    • @AlkalineInsides
      @AlkalineInsides Рік тому +10

      @@sexythicknj you don't even know what you're talking about. She set up an entire trust frund for flos kids. She let Mary borrow money not once but twice. And even helped out Cindy. Flo had her own demons she was dealing with. They weren't angels either. Idk why people think Diana supposed to be responsible for everyone else life. In the late 70's she barely even had any money. You literally had to go to Motown to ask for it. She was set up on a bad deal. But because she was a Motown darling..of course she was granted a little more access. You need to do your research

    • @veronicapodolig6806
      @veronicapodolig6806 Рік тому

      @@AlkalineInsides who is Flo?

    • @AlkalineInsides
      @AlkalineInsides Рік тому +3

      @@veronicapodolig6806 Florence Ballard, a founding member of The Supremes.

  • @JJNotEvans
    @JJNotEvans Рік тому +2

    I saw her perform at Essence festival a few years ago and her aura filled the super dome. I’ve never felt anything like it.

  • @KingSeer
    @KingSeer Рік тому +6

    Ten out of Ten. Thoroughly well produced work. Thoroughly researched and put together. Which made true MJ fans proud - I’m SURE ❤

  • @erinl1265
    @erinl1265 Рік тому +109

    I knew she and Michael were friends but I had no idea that she groomed him and had an improper relationship with him. I never liked her because she seemed like such a princess and now I really don't like her. I always had compassion for Michael despite all his issues because he had a horrible upbringing and now this. It explains so much!

  • @yummycheesecke
    @yummycheesecke Рік тому +459

    Omg! Things are starting to make sense now. MJ is a great singer/ song writer and there was an interview talking about how mj sang love/ break up songs with the passion of a 40 year old but coming from an 8 year old boy. Like how is he able to convey those emotions at such a young age? Idk just a thought.

    • @cheesyDELISH48
      @cheesyDELISH48 Рік тому +106

      Quincy talks about how during the recording of She's Out of My Life Michael would sob at the end of the song every time...

    • @blyt5046
      @blyt5046 Рік тому +45

      He was good at mimicking the stars back then, like Jackie Wilson and all the people that were back then. You have to remember a lot of those people. Were like huge To A boy who lived at home didn't have anything. He wanted to be a singer. So he copied them. Their look their way. He said he used to watch their feet.He would talk about this over the years.

    • @TyeArtisik
      @TyeArtisik Рік тому +25

      Because he's simply talented...

    • @TyeArtisik
      @TyeArtisik Рік тому +11

      @@cheesyDELISH48 fake crying, it's just a part of the act for that song. Maybe he did cry for real once or twice tho

    • @allthingscreative1631
      @allthingscreative1631 Рік тому +22

      @@TyeArtisik it wasnt fake crying lol.. Quincy said he did it everytime while recording until he eventually had to keep it in there..

  • @priestmedina973
    @priestmedina973 26 днів тому

    Enjoyed this

  • @patriciawarmoth661
    @patriciawarmoth661 Рік тому +11

    Diana Ross is certainly one of my idols. Though she didn't have the greatest voice, but certainly has stage presence, and a sweetness that enthralled all different people of the world.

    • @sarahjones190
      @sarahjones190 10 місяців тому +1

      You shouldn’t have idols…..

  • @armenthamurphy4606
    @armenthamurphy4606 Рік тому +499

    I don't find her behaviour shocking, regular every day people do some of these same things and the only reason it is not known is because they aren't famous so the things they do don't necessarily come into the open unless it is truly horrific; but nothing really surprises me about what people do.

    • @ericdavis6261
      @ericdavis6261 Рік тому +14

      exactly! 😆👍

    • @hellobye7697
      @hellobye7697 Рік тому +54

      EXACTLY. This is the case for most of these celebrity scandals. The public love to call out celebs for things we’re ALL guilty for

    • @CodyCole80
      @CodyCole80 Рік тому +37

      Even though regular people behave that way to get to the top doesn’t mean they should. It’s still not okay.

    • @yamei2531
      @yamei2531 Рік тому +8

      @@hellobye7697 I totally agree💯 We all fall short of the glory at the end of the day .

    • @rutherosado4111
      @rutherosado4111 Рік тому +9

      I agree every female group has a diva the supremes had Diana and destiny child Had “queen bee “ Beyoncé.

  • @goodnplenty1873
    @goodnplenty1873 Рік тому +232

    My mom was a huge Jackson fan, she used to talk about Diana and MJ all of the time, she was the first one I ever heard say that MJ was emulating Diana, that was over 30 years ago. My mom knew what was up, I really wonder what details people around at the time in real time had that we don't know today.

    • @yamei2531
      @yamei2531 Рік тому +16

      Facts 💯 God bless & rest my mom's soul, she passed 23 yrs ago from breast cancer she would be 68 now but when I was growing up she use to say the same thing lol

    • @noproblems3192
      @noproblems3192 Рік тому +8

      Explain how he was “emulating” Diana?

    • @taylorsara1237
      @taylorsara1237 Рік тому +38

      He wasn't emulating her. He was deeply IN LOVE with her. Ppl in love naturally start to look and act alike. That's a well known fact...

    • @MissCellanious1
      @MissCellanious1 Рік тому +10

      Soon as I read "emulating" it became so clear 🤯

    • @noproblems3192
      @noproblems3192 Рік тому +6

      @@MissCellanious1 no it’s actually false

  • @Lili11765
    @Lili11765 3 місяці тому +1

    Wow I never knew any of this thanks for the 411 still love Diana

  • @JaeSwift10JamellaSwift
    @JaeSwift10JamellaSwift Рік тому +12

    You need snacks for this video. JUICY!

  • @shinaerazo6070
    @shinaerazo6070 Рік тому +26

    I had noooooo idea the deepness of Diana and Michael’s relationship. 😮

  • @plantsoverpills1643
    @plantsoverpills1643 Рік тому +106

    Sounds like DR is a narcissist who looked far and wide for supply, love bombed and discarded her relationships, returning to use them when it served her. She’s so iconic and glamorous because that’s what was most important to her. As she aged and became less relevant, she fell into substance abuse. Clearly she couldn’t love anyone but her own ambitions. But…..she’ll always have Mahogany.

    • @globalcitizenn
      @globalcitizenn Рік тому +14

      I see her mirrored in JLo, even Madonna to an extent. Being relevant & still getting attention is the most important to them. Which is why they’ll never stop working, they need the limelight like oxygen. Miss Ross is performing again.

    • @thebryanoquinnshow7207
      @thebryanoquinnshow7207 Рік тому +2

      She's a pretty great mom ... she loves them and adore her!

  • @dianamuringo3998
    @dianamuringo3998 Рік тому

    Your videos are just amazing.

  • @shenyae4143
    @shenyae4143 Рік тому +28

    Michael deserved better. He should have been walked away from her.

  • @tips_and_tricks_for_life100
    @tips_and_tricks_for_life100 Рік тому +42

    People seldom reach this level of fame without being self obsessed, and once that level the rules change for them. Its hardly unique. I love her.

    • @mwilde7521
      @mwilde7521 9 днів тому +1

      Underrated comment, I agree with you 100%.

  • @pati55ish
    @pati55ish Рік тому +5

    I have loved Diana since I was 9 years old and it was the thrill of my life in the 80s when she held my hand at a concert while singing Reach out and touch Somebody’s hand. I loved your video. Learned things I didn’t know but I still love her! Turning 68 soon and still cry when I hear her voice. Thanks again!

  • @mindofzena8447
    @mindofzena8447 Рік тому +2

    Wow I never knew about ANY of this! 😳

  • @motheroats
    @motheroats Рік тому +181

    Diana Ross low key makes Oprah seem like a saint

    • @marcy23147
      @marcy23147 Рік тому

      Oprah is by no means a saint…even with this about Diana Ross, Oprah is still evil

    • @conclavecabal.h0rriphic
      @conclavecabal.h0rriphic Рік тому +73

      well...i dont know ab that. I dont think Diana could begin to touch O's level of evil.

    • @turquoisepurple7sky151
      @turquoisepurple7sky151 Рік тому

      Sounds like a lot of jealous women who are mad because these women are not Mammies. Tired, run down, fat in size, big booty, weaved out, sweating, eating fried chicken, living in the ghetto with bad men, out proclaiming BLM, or getting shot...this is why you all are jealous of Oprah and Diana Ross.

    • @alluringbliss4165
      @alluringbliss4165 Рік тому +3

      @@conclavecabal.h0rriphic LOL, I feel like I am from another planet. Oprah too..

    • @storiking650
      @storiking650 Рік тому

      @@conclavecabal.h0rriphic YOU haven't read about all the awful, atrocious things Ross has done to countless people. I've read 3 books about her & 2 or 3 about Motown & all of Mary Wilson's books. Not to mention countless interviews w/people like Mary Reeves, Patti LaBelle, Gladys Knight, etc., all of whom have attested to just how vicious & calculating she was, even to her very own group members. Her only interest was HERSELF. She slept with Smokie Robinson, who was married & had been with his wife Claudette, a fellow member of The Miracles, for quite some time, better yet, they had been together as long as she had been coming up to Hitsville as a High School student. She slept with Brian Holland of Holland-Dozier-Holland, Motown's mega producers & he was in a longterm, serious, relationship with his girl at that time, but Ross of course could care less about that & his girl jumped on her boney ass 1 night at the club. Thankfully for her, her Supreme sisters were in the spot that night 2 save her by jumping in between the 2 & dragging Ross out the club.
      DIANE ROSS IS THE DEVIL INCARNATE!!!!!!

  • @sunshinethirteen
    @sunshinethirteen Рік тому +28

    im still in awe realizing that "leave me alone" might be for Diana too and not the paparazzi. or both. Michael's good with trying to hide real meanings of his songs lmaooo

    • @jaywilliams1942
      @jaywilliams1942 7 місяців тому +4

      Leave Me Alone was definitely about her:
      “Time after time I gave you all of my money/ No excuses to make/
      AIN’T NO MOUNTAIN THAT I CAN’T CLIMB, baby/ All is going my way…

  • @venganzamujer354
    @venganzamujer354 2 місяці тому

    great job....thanks

  • @Charles-qm3mo
    @Charles-qm3mo Рік тому +1

    WoW, never knew this !

  • @sydneykelly5387
    @sydneykelly5387 Рік тому +91

    I saw an interview not to long ago where Gene Simmons talked about how much he loved her, and she was the great love of his life. Thank you for this video. A lot of this information, I did not know

    • @timmy841212
      @timmy841212 Рік тому +8

      Interesting

    • @ntuan9360
      @ntuan9360 Рік тому +32

      Men love mean women

    • @tshidi129
      @tshidi129 Рік тому +8

      @@ntuan9360 Evidently

    • @Hi.Shadow
      @Hi.Shadow Рік тому +2

      Can you tell us which interview this was please?

    • @turquoisepurple7sky151
      @turquoisepurple7sky151 Рік тому +4

      @@ntuan9360 Men love beautiful women, not ugly fat ones. Men are about looks

  • @conclavecabal.h0rriphic
    @conclavecabal.h0rriphic Рік тому +129

    I never knew all this happened btwn D & M. My heart breaks for the children that grow up in the entertainment industry. Theyre used and abused like nothing else.

  • @Neema825
    @Neema825 Рік тому +3

    She performed her in July in London at the Queen's jubilee. She also released a new album. She also sang 1 of her new tracks.

  • @jessebriee3918
    @jessebriee3918 Рік тому +8

    Diana read Michael, his dysfunctional family concerns, etc. She befriended him, he was a muse to her. How very disturbing. I always wondered about the song, Dirty Diana. I knew there was more to it, thew what we the public was lead to believe. Also, I knew about her love triangle with Cher and Gene Simmons. I read somewhere Cher was crushed, she meet Gene after breaking up with David Geffen. Thank you for sharing the bigger picture about Diana.

  • @DreamingEdmond
    @DreamingEdmond Рік тому +201

    I’ve known about this for a couple years. I am a deep dive MJ fan. So I truly don’t like her. She was a social climber. She did anything and anyone to become who she is. She wanted everyone to be a playing piece in her world in order to not get played herself.
    She rather be at the top alone than share with others. She knew how he felt and took advantage of that. MJ adoring her was an ego boost. That’s why she would sabotage his relationships and show him love to keep him in order.
    It was sick.
    I think it’s weird to parent someone only to date them when the child grows older.
    I truly don’t like her. Even though she made all that backstabbing worth it.
    Moonwalker4Life💕✨

    • @globalcitizenn
      @globalcitizenn Рік тому +27

      The lyric in MJ’s song Human Nature goes “She’s keeping him by keeping him around”. That’s exactly what she did. Kept him hanging. What she did is no different than Woody Allen who married a girl he once parented.

    • @connicia
      @connicia Рік тому +13

      Damn I had no idea...she truly fucked MJ up

    • @DreamingEdmond
      @DreamingEdmond Рік тому +21

      @@connicia She did and she knew it. That’s why she won’t ever talk about it or him for that matter. She wasn’t there when he was at his lowest.

    • @micronotsoft6891
      @micronotsoft6891 Рік тому +6

      She didn't like MJ although he was a big guy int the industry she likes white men anyway

    • @mdavis3610
      @mdavis3610 Рік тому +5

      Coming in the guise of parent, but really a lover.

  • @nicolesherman8974
    @nicolesherman8974 Рік тому +465

    Diana Ross is a living legend and has inspired some of the greatest talents like Janet Jackson, but she did have her mean girl tendencies. Not her specifically but the way Florence Ballard from the Supremes was treated and how she benefited from that (she and Berry Gordy dated and ended up having a child). Also, how Stephanie Mills was suppose to be in the film adaption of the Wiz but she persistent on getting the role even though producers and filmmakers thought she was too old to play Dorothy. Still a fashion and pop music icon nonetheless.

    • @bigolebot
      @bigolebot Рік тому +1

      She's not a legend... Sleeping with Berry Gordy helped her fraudulent career

    • @pamelapadath6308
      @pamelapadath6308 Рік тому +52

      Michael ended up dating Stephanie Mills anyway and Stephanie Mills said Michael definitely wasn't gay because there were rumors swirling at the time

    • @pheephee1712
      @pheephee1712 Рік тому +1

      @@pamelapadath6308 Michael Jackson liked little boys-

    • @danavixen6274
      @danavixen6274 Рік тому +60

      @@pamelapadath6308 Stephanie is a REAL one. She consistently DEFENDS MJ.

    • @shawnlittle73
      @shawnlittle73 Рік тому +45

      I’m have to say No! That Diana Ross inspired Janet Jackson!!
      When it comes to Michael & Janet Jackson’s, I can tell who inspired Janet!!
      Janet had respect for Diana Ross.. but, that wasn’t the person she looked up to.
      Dorothy Dandridge, Eartha kit, Cab Calloway, Mae West… OMG!! I can go on & on…

  • @jetset3crystal217
    @jetset3crystal217 20 годин тому

    Missing You is my favorite, I can listen to it over & over & over 😩🔥….INCREDIBLY nostalgic

  • @oinkoink4407
    @oinkoink4407 Рік тому

    i love this channel

  • @shawnlittle73
    @shawnlittle73 Рік тому +69

    Michael Jackson was my IDOL.. and yes Michael Jackson fan’s didn’t care too much Diana Ross! She used him and turned her back on him leading to his death.
    When you do a video of King of Pop! Stay in chronological order with his career’s or I will critique your video.
    I still tear up or cry, when people speaks about him!! I came sooo close of working with him as a dancer!!!

    • @rvegas81
      @rvegas81 Рік тому +4

      I always thought it was weird how it was shown that he and Diana were close friends. But in the 90s-you never saw her stand by him, neither did Sheryl Crow, or Madonna. I think that everyone was too cautious over the child allegations. But I never knew they were romatically involved. That's the craziest part to me, but MJ and Diana's dance skills on the Wiz are something that can never really be emulated.

    • @Milkers777
      @Milkers777 Рік тому +9

      @@rvegas81 *False Allegations