How Toxic 2 Speedrunners Turned Walls into Liquid

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  • @Maximum
    @Maximum  Рік тому +166

    Get Surfshark VPN at surfshark.deals/maximum - Enter promo code MAXIMUM for 83% off and 3 extra months for free!
    (Spoilers Below)
    Update (4/26/23): All bounties have been claimed!
    - The *20* people who got a *sub 10* minute Any% run received *$50* each.
    - The *10* people who got a *sub 9* minute Any% run received *$100* each.
    - Vertic set a world record in Toxic 2 Any% and recieved *$1,000.*
    Bounty / Competition Tracker - docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1jdjAhgIY4V5GBnG5hkqwNimyT9TbOMBz8FL6oHbvTSU/edit?usp=sharing
    Toxic 2 speedrun.com Page - www.speedrun.com/toxic2 (Game download is in the Resources tab)
    Beginner Speedrun Tutorial - ua-cam.com/video/6vfChZYvEN0/v-deo.html
    Nitrome Speedrunning Discord Server - discord.gg/92hjP7PXRH
    Current Any% World Record - ua-cam.com/video/ood9h7FPtkw/v-deo.html

    • @Md5offical
      @Md5offical Рік тому +3

      Yes sir!

    • @tacopinky
      @tacopinky Рік тому +2

      congrats on first sponsor!!

    • @ShadowBulb
      @ShadowBulb Рік тому +3

      Where is the resources tab so I can play the game

    • @lukecoleman3643
      @lukecoleman3643 Рік тому +3

      not your fault but just so you know VPNs don't actually encrypt your or anything anymore than a browser with a lock in the upper left. look up VPN Tom Scott.

    • @tacopinky
      @tacopinky Рік тому +6

      @@lukecoleman3643 yea, but is Tom Scott a speedrunning legend??

  • @ariamentio
    @ariamentio Рік тому +658

    misread this as “2 toxic speed runners” and I thought it would be two dudes just constantly doxxing eachother

  • @monchete9934
    @monchete9934 Рік тому +1597

    Nitrome games were a huge part of my childhood, i didn't expect to see them again after so many years

    • @JamesTDG
      @JamesTDG Рік тому +31

      Indeed, it was like being punched with nostalgia

    • @jplveiga
      @jplveiga Рік тому +21

      Yess, the hours Ive put into these, and the hype I had when a new one dropped in the site! I checked it frequently. My favorite was the ice vikings

    • @gdstar6917
      @gdstar6917 Рік тому +2

      the only one i played was nitrome must die

    • @cyberz55
      @cyberz55 Рік тому +9

      the one I played was bad ice cream on friv

    • @RadikAlice
      @RadikAlice Рік тому

      Same

  • @astrofish6163
    @astrofish6163 Рік тому +843

    Love how the sponsor money goes towards incentivizing the speedrunning of undervalued games. It even makes sense from a business perspective, allowing for potential new videos to be made on the same game later on.

  • @Taikamuna
    @Taikamuna Рік тому +214

    My dream has come true. My childhood games being speedran and narrated by Maximum

    • @mikIay
      @mikIay 3 місяці тому

      ah yes the domino guy

  • @Neefew
    @Neefew Рік тому +577

    I absolutely loved Nitrome growing up. I'd watch a speedrun history of practically any nitrome game

    • @JamesTDG
      @JamesTDG Рік тому +13

      It definitely has reinvigorated my interest in trying to speedrun the Viking ice breaking games they had. I tended to either play that or the demolition one they had a lot back then.
      I guess I should probably refresh myself on all of the solutions so I can speedrun it properly. (Oooh, I need to check in on sticky ninja)

    • @thatoneguy9582
      @thatoneguy9582 Рік тому +12

      -better see a nitrome must die speedrunning video soon-

    • @adumbfurry7036
      @adumbfurry7036 Рік тому

      We should

    • @razorblaze4522
      @razorblaze4522 Рік тому

      Nitrome was my entire childhood. Ironic that one of my favorite games on the site was Nitrome Must Die

  • @sonicmeerkat
    @sonicmeerkat Рік тому +393

    honestly sad to hear they got taken down off of flashpoint.
    i get it they wanna monotise the games themselves still, but it is a huge hit to preservation and let's be real, web ads don't even pay like they used to.

    • @critarc
      @critarc Рік тому +33

      they're probably going to rerelease them at some point with all these flash -> steam rereleases doing numbers

    • @gamejitzu
      @gamejitzu 10 місяців тому +5

      it is what it is, but at the same time I've always hoped we could one day get every single game rereleased on all platforms (maybe consoles would need to remove some). With something like DDLC+ where the entire website is recreated, and you can play the icon games, or even collect profile pictures. But a simple collection would also work though

  • @porglezomp7235
    @porglezomp7235 Рік тому +130

    As you got towards the 11 minute speed runs I was thinking “this would have finally been able to be uploaded to UA-cam back at the beginning”

    • @davidoiltonante8875
      @davidoiltonante8875 Рік тому +2

      me too lol

    • @zackbuildit88
      @zackbuildit88 Рік тому +1

      Ayyy Kanaya pfp? If i recall my horns right, I'm a bit rusty (this is a pun all my OCs are rustbloods or close)

  • @bobdrooples
    @bobdrooples Рік тому +116

    So the graphic designer with no coding spec, did the coding, while the two coding brothers did the art direction?

  • @emericus4649
    @emericus4649 Рік тому +267

    Absolutely phenomenal video, you've covered the history of this game perfectly and have done a tremendous job explaining all the cool tricks that were discovered along the way. It blows me away how much further you and Conor were able to push the game after I stopped running it. Seeing the entire history put into a video, especially with the comments at the end about Nitrome games as a whole, was really touching. I hope these games are forever remembered and get all the love they deserve. :3

  • @fyroe
    @fyroe Рік тому +90

    I grew up on Nitrome games. I remember my dad showing me the first Frost Bite game one day. Toxic is a certified hood classic and I remember being so excited for Toxic 2 to come out.
    I probably haven't seen this game in over a decade. Thanks for the massive nostalgia hit.

  • @leftysheppey
    @leftysheppey Рік тому +60

    I didn't realise nitrome did so many iconic games, nor that it was a team of, like, 4. Truly amazing. Honestly, they just didn't miss

  • @boldblazervids
    @boldblazervids Рік тому +9

    12:30 Nitrome wasn't blocked at the computers at my elementary, so I used to play it often and try to "speedrun" Skywire 2 during any indoor lunch hours, before knowing what speedrunning was.

  • @WinnerBit
    @WinnerBit Рік тому +14

    I am SO HAPPY to see Nitrome get the love and attention they deserve all these years later. Their games were my childhood (heck, I even started a Nitrome library completion project last year, which is still going strong!). I hope this video prompts others to discover the amazing games that Nitrome made in the golden years of Flash. 🧡

  • @sircamquat
    @sircamquat Рік тому +25

    I love nitrome so much, I'm so happy to learn about the people behind those games and to hear you acknowledge their unified aesthetic and focus on design. Their style was such a draw for me and I think their catalog as a whole is still a world class lesson in creative design

    • @ccaagg
      @ccaagg Рік тому +2

      The writing was also an absolute treasure.

  • @TLTheLegend
    @TLTheLegend Рік тому +5

    maximum during school: finding new strategies for world records
    me during school: dying inside

  • @bulb9970
    @bulb9970 Рік тому +17

    I loved this game as a kid and played it countless times when waiting for school. It's incredible how speedrunning can revive so many hidden gems, I wonder what other Nitrome games have similar scenes.

  • @tegxi
    @tegxi Рік тому +10

    Woah, I wasn't expecting that ending! Honestly a really cool idea, encourages folks to take up speedrunning which gives them potentially a new hobby and gives the communities new life.

  • @babythorgaming2166
    @babythorgaming2166 Рік тому +7

    Hadn't considered Nitrome speedruns before. Makes me wonder if Final Ninja has a speedrun community. If I remember it had really fun movement

  • @R4UL1028
    @R4UL1028 Рік тому +3

    Finally! This game got the recognition it deserved! It was a huge part of my childhood along with other nitrome games, i was surprised to see it again

  • @JamesTDG
    @JamesTDG Рік тому +5

    45:21 can confirm. It's made it hard to play for sure. I did like the pop-out player newgrounds had that played most, if not all flash games smoothly. (Unlike ruffle...)

  • @tyruslawhorn
    @tyruslawhorn Рік тому +4

    I wasn't even aware of the existence of Nitrome before watching this video and yet I was still captivated from start to finish. I couldn't imagine myself being the person who innovates some game breaking strategy in any game in the same manner that you were able to do several times in Toxic 2. That kind of outside the box thinking which essentially pushes a game right to its limit takes a blend of patience, dedication and creativity along with an intricate knowledge of the game mechanics that very few people possess. And on occasion maybe just a tiny bit of luck. Very well done, young man. I look forward to witnessing your future accomplishments

  • @vesselunknown7961
    @vesselunknown7961 Рік тому +4

    shoutouts to max for not making a single among us joke for the entire video.

  • @Ddddddddddd381
    @Ddddddddddd381 Рік тому +6

    Oh wow nitrome games is a hit of nostalgia I didn’t know I needed. I’d watch an entire video on that studio

  • @BevinEG
    @BevinEG Рік тому +31

    I love so many Nitrome games! Literally a 1/4 of my childhood.

  • @sophiegrey9576
    @sophiegrey9576 Рік тому +7

    Toxic's movement tech looks like it'd make for a pretty cool Metroidvania...

  • @shstv-vw1fj
    @shstv-vw1fj Рік тому +6

    nitrome was me and my brothers childhood, I don't know how I never found out about speedruns for their games. ALso love the use of so many nitrome tracks in this, its like a nostalgia pickaxe to the brain lol.

  • @ThompYT
    @ThompYT Рік тому +2

    Playing bad ice cream is like a staple of childhood in the 2010s in my country. But I've been on a search for a flash game I only played once for FIVE YEARS. Having it constantly be in the back of my mind and obsessing over finding it on/off for F I V E years... This video helped me find it because it was made by nitrome. So thank you...

  • @An1mat0rz
    @An1mat0rz Рік тому +19

    Somebody should make a TAS for a hypothetical maximum, it'd be pretty cool to see how much it blows sub 8 out of the water.

    • @Maximum
      @Maximum  Рік тому +20

      There unfortunately isn’t a way to tas the game yet, but once it starts fully functioning in Ruffle, I really hope that someone puts one together

  • @4Yahoo
    @4Yahoo Рік тому +15

    I'm already curious about the next Flash game speedrun video.
    Your videos really good, keep it up!

  • @schrodingerskitten7206
    @schrodingerskitten7206 9 місяців тому +1

    I just wanna talk a bit abt how _musical_ your editing is! maybe it hits me harder bc I'm a musician, but whenever there's a montage with music over it in _any_ of these videos, it's just so _nice_ how there's always something that matches with the pace of the music, from cuts on the first beat of a bar to the rhythm of the melody falling perfectly with in-game actions. I've been binging your videos and this is easily the best part for me quite frankly :D you're awesome mr maximum carry on!

  • @hoodieninja_7203
    @hoodieninja_7203 Рік тому +7

    Admittedly a little surprised this is one of the most popular nitrome speed games, rather than one of the Final Ninja games, considering they're rather fast-paced by default and have some fairly interesting high-skill mechanics. Or at least, that's how I remember them. Maybe I should look into the series again.

  • @Yum0987654321
    @Yum0987654321 Рік тому +3

    Can't go wrong with the choice of Nitrome music in the background. Good choices too.
    At first I was kind of unimpressed with the video, realizing that the record would just be swapped back and forth between two people (one of which is also the author of the video), but you managed to present the discoveries and exploits in a manner that kept it interesting. It must have been a little difficult to present the records without coming off as flaunting; I think I still get a bit of that sense in the video, but when the majority of the work is only between two people, it seems unavoidable.
    Great video nonetheless.

  • @SUPER7X
    @SUPER7X Рік тому +9

    I wonder if Nitrome will ever finish Flightless. They pivoted to focus on mobile, but we've seen a few Steam releases in the last few years. I think it could happen. God, that was such a fun demo.

    • @melly20xx
      @melly20xx Рік тому

      I'm still waiting for Super Feed Me 💀

  • @mariahs6
    @mariahs6 Рік тому +6

    This video was an absolute nostalgia rush! I love Nitrome, it's one of my biggest inspirations when it comes to drawing! Recognizing each song in the background made me so excited, as did the overview of the company's history!
    All the speedrun strats were a lot of fun to learn about too!

  • @LiamSCL
    @LiamSCL Рік тому +6

    Surprised you haven't talked about fireboy and watergirl speedrunning before, it's pretty fun and very precise. Also the world record is currently a tie between two players, which is pretty wild. Anyways, I get it if you don't actually make a video about it but it would be cool to see and fits with your channels flash game speedrunning theme

  • @lukecwolf
    @lukecwolf Рік тому +2

    I always so those massive toxic containers and speedrun times growing up as a kid, never knowing how either was possible. thanks for the detailed video!

  • @BubGames
    @BubGames Рік тому +1

    i had completely forgotten about this game until now

  • @cheapgorillas
    @cheapgorillas Рік тому +5

    First time Max got a sponsor! Ur channel is growing so fast

  • @robertzaucha1853
    @robertzaucha1853 Рік тому +6

    "turn walls into liquid"
    Nah dude you straight up turned the whole game into liquid

  • @redscyther7725
    @redscyther7725 Рік тому +1

    When I was a kid, I managed to discover that Bigfoot skip on my own, because I was so scared of fighting him. I used it for years, never actually defeating Bigfoot until well into my teens. Seeing that there was a skip for Mother as well warms my heart, because my young self struggled with her fight for a while and lamented that I couldn't skip her like I could Bigfoot (I never thought of the exploit until I saw speedruns doing it)

  • @Vertic03
    @Vertic03 Рік тому +12

    Rewatching and looking at all the details, the production quality here is crazy. You're getting really good at this youtube thing heh?

  • @kapoofca
    @kapoofca Рік тому +9

    I love Nitrome games so much. They've been a big part of my life that I always come back to, sad not every one is ported to HTML yet but there's always work arounds if you can find them.

  • @epicstar86
    @epicstar86 Рік тому +2

    didn't know nitrome games (a part of my childhood) were this known to be speedran

  • @Corpah
    @Corpah Рік тому +3

    I remember in Kindergarten seeing a video about this. I drew a picture of a floor, a man in a space/rad suit and a spiked bomb with the number 5 on it. I finally found it now!

  • @krenzer7
    @krenzer7 7 місяців тому +1

    I love watching long videos about games I’ve never played before

  • @MINECRAFTLOVER4000
    @MINECRAFTLOVER4000 Рік тому +3

    havent even started the video yet but nitrome is like the absolute best game studio, i used to play mutiny all the time with my dad when i was like 10

  • @midnamidnightwhisper7529
    @midnamidnightwhisper7529 Рік тому

    Nitrome and Super Mario 63 brings back eons of nostalgia, the Test Subject series on Nitrome was one of the games i'll remember fondly for such a simple game, and how its story developed

  • @identitytheft3353
    @identitytheft3353 Рік тому +2

    26:02
    "THE BIGFOOT SKIP..."
    "THE BIGFOOT SKIP IS REAL!!!"

  • @elricconry5589
    @elricconry5589 Рік тому +1

    I knew about Nitrome games because of the amount of time I spent playing Moshi Monsters as a kid, but I've never heard of Toxic. This was a really cool video!

  • @SaltpeterTaffy
    @SaltpeterTaffy Рік тому +1

    That moment where you showed Bowman was a nostalgia nuke for me. I played that game a bunch.

  • @mpjp2587
    @mpjp2587 Рік тому +2

    12:30 damn you, GoGuardian

  • @krumblemumble8628
    @krumblemumble8628 Рік тому +26

    Your videos are amazing, Maximum! Can't wait to watch through this one 😊

  • @moomoocowmaster8427
    @moomoocowmaster8427 Рік тому +3

    Agh I miss this game!!! The music is so good too. Never thought I’d see it again, but omg I loved playing this one

  • @ZimoNitrome
    @ZimoNitrome 4 місяці тому +2

    What? People speedrun this game? And you made a video so interesting it got 200k+ views! Nitrome fans eating good today.

  • @Dark_Slayer3000
    @Dark_Slayer3000 Рік тому +2

    Nitrome was my childhood, I'm happy to finally see videos about their games :)

  • @benjbenj1
    @benjbenj1 Рік тому +3

    9:43 nutral wall jump

  • @Meichrob7
    @Meichrob7 Рік тому +1

    This channel is not longer filed under “the red ball guy” in my brain, it has now changed to “Summoning Salt for flash games.”

  • @joseaca1010
    @joseaca1010 Рік тому +1

    I remember Nitrome games always blew my mind due to how high quality they were
    If i remember correctly, you could paint your own Ballon in Hot Air 2, they even had a function to share your designs online, so cool

  • @ccaagg
    @ccaagg Рік тому +1

    Nice to see Nitrome getting some attention. Recognising which of their games each music track is from was wild.

  • @invertedmind8937
    @invertedmind8937 Рік тому +2

    this music is hitting me with levels of flash game nostalgia i didn't know i had

  • @xaius4348
    @xaius4348 Рік тому

    Seeing this brings me immesurable joy to know that there is still a community playing old Nitrome games.

  • @Emerald29
    @Emerald29 Рік тому +4

    Nitrome is like the nintendo of flash games back then

  • @Dark-6678
    @Dark-6678 Рік тому +2

    I had never heard of toxic or even nitrome before watching this but I legit got invested around the sub-9 milestone.

  • @KremBotop
    @KremBotop Рік тому

    My eyes glowed when I found this in my feed. Played this duology and Nitrome games in general a lot in my youth...

  • @msp654
    @msp654 Рік тому +3

    At first my brain went "wtf does he mean he was doing this stuff IN CLASS" and then I checked the clip dates and realized ah yes I was also in class back then lmao. Still getting used to the idea that the content creators I watch aren't like, a decade older than me, minimum

  • @nekoettechan5433
    @nekoettechan5433 Рік тому +1

    the revelation that this game isn't on flashpoint is devastating because as i was watching i was thinking i should boot flashpoint back up to play it :(

  • @nikostsigos4998
    @nikostsigos4998 Рік тому +1

    I played that game nonstop when I was a kid, thanks for the nostalgia

  • @noneofyourbusiness4133
    @noneofyourbusiness4133 Рік тому +1

    37:36 i was NOT prepared for “high school it’s maximum” today. Straight up jump scared.

    • @Maximum
      @Maximum  Рік тому

      That was actually me in middle school lol

  • @daydodoodle1279
    @daydodoodle1279 Рік тому +1

    Omg my dyslexia made me read the title as " how 2 toxic speedrunners turned walls into liquid "

  • @SirLampsALot
    @SirLampsALot Рік тому

    When you played the Icebreakers theme, you sent me on a confused nostalgia trip. Well done sire.

  • @PretzelBS
    @PretzelBS Рік тому +3

    Mans gonna become a full time flash speedrunner

  • @tritonwe8937
    @tritonwe8937 Рік тому

    oooh this game is so much nostalgy. i remember finding it when i was super young, like 7 or so, and i was scared of those wheel robots. i'm so happy to learn that this game was made by Nitrome, a company which I love

  • @AlmostNamedOne
    @AlmostNamedOne Рік тому +1

    I love when youre actually apart of these history videos

  • @arco5916
    @arco5916 Рік тому +1

    I completely forgot about final ninja until i saw it in the background of this video, so much from my child hood I had completely forgotten about

  • @theeeldeal8470
    @theeeldeal8470 7 місяців тому

    Sandman was such a weird core memory that i did NOT expect to be unlocked in this video

  • @ryanbruch206
    @ryanbruch206 Рік тому +2

    12:30 Hey, it’s the same blocker my school uses

  • @hydroxide7372
    @hydroxide7372 Рік тому +1

    I love Nitrome games, and this was one I never played. I was happily surprised to see a brief history of their games company along with this epic video.

  • @MrdDoge1
    @MrdDoge1 9 місяців тому

    thank you for getting me back into nitrome games as bad ice cream was my childhood game

  • @somelurker6115
    @somelurker6115 Рік тому

    I didn't know people speedrun nitrome games! I played these so much when I was younger. I remember playing Square Meal on an old Mac that could barely manage 20 FPS. The art and music are just so good!

  • @cringeSpeedrunner
    @cringeSpeedrunner Рік тому

    Wall scaling is also an easy trick in Appel. Wall jump up, and tap right to initiate the falling sequence and the coyote jump sensor. In 0.1 seconds, you have to tap up and then left.

  • @z_lock1701
    @z_lock1701 Рік тому +2

    OMFG! I'VE been looking for this game for the idk how many years I remember playing it as a kid, didn't remember the name. Finally! I'm gana be able to enjoy this game again, Thank you sooo much!!!!!

  • @drazzie22
    @drazzie22 Рік тому +1

    i had no idea people were speedrunning nitrome games! i loved them as a kid

  • @patrickshanahan6795
    @patrickshanahan6795 Рік тому

    Oh Max, the real game you're speedrunning is making youtube love you 100%.

  • @Dark_Slayer3000
    @Dark_Slayer3000 Рік тому +1

    Your brand is a 3 minute drawing, that's just awesome xD

  • @shentt.
    @shentt. Рік тому

    This sort of speedrunning stuff is my favorite thing. Ever. Thank you for this video and this story

  • @RodrigoTheHappyDog
    @RodrigoTheHappyDog Рік тому +2

    Misread the title and thought there were two speedrunners who were really unpleasant people

  • @benjamincoco8602
    @benjamincoco8602 Рік тому +2

    Exceptional coverage of the history of this game and Nitrome as a whole. I'm for sure tempted to try to claim one of those bounties, but unfortunately, I have a thesis due in a week and a half so I have negative for anything. Best of luck to all of you who go for it.

  • @oceanbeans8546
    @oceanbeans8546 Рік тому +1

    I loved Nitrome games so much. That was my favorite Game Dev as a kid

  • @woopyboi
    @woopyboi Рік тому +1

    "will receive *$1,000*." Whoops, messed that up in the description.😅

  • @x8c8r
    @x8c8r Рік тому +3

    Ah yes a hood classic, turning walls into liquid

  • @jayisasalad
    @jayisasalad Рік тому

    Brings me back to when I would stay the night at my friends house as a child and we would play Nitrome Must Die for hours on end. Great video as always Maximum!

  • @10EightyPlays
    @10EightyPlays Рік тому +3

    I feel Deja Vu in the title.

  • @averyraresnom2451
    @averyraresnom2451 Рік тому +1

    Most the time others are doing the speed runs but this time your the main focus nice work :)

  • @transam33o
    @transam33o Рік тому

    I remember nitrome! Mainly from "Nitrome must Die" which I played with a cousin in like 2014 on a laptop. The last time we played it, the laptop broke. I also played Bad Ice Cream 2 ~2014

  • @gigachadtoad8738
    @gigachadtoad8738 Рік тому

    im loving that you just casually found the biggest skips in this game because you were bored in class

  • @oxk_gaming
    @oxk_gaming Рік тому +1

    Bro the Nitrome history portion of this video is awesome :))

  • @Bebeu4300
    @Bebeu4300 Рік тому

    I remember watching my brother play this game and absolutely loving it, so it has a special place in my heart.

  • @banquote4253
    @banquote4253 Рік тому +3

    My fav Speedrun historian. great vid as always, I love how much of these speedrun strats were found while bored in class

  • @RadikAlice
    @RadikAlice Рік тому +2

    You know, it's a shame you missed out on Nitrome games. But ironically, now's a better time than any
    But this speaks to me as Toxic was one of their games that stuck to me, history lesson was great too
    Hadn't looked it up, and it was a serious throwback. Also, Lee's music for both games is baller