10 Black Tie Rules To ALWAYS Follow | Black Tie Event Dress Code Guide

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  • @hespokestyle
    @hespokestyle  3 роки тому +5

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    • @8991991
      @8991991 3 роки тому

      Hey. I just wanted to know. I’m wearing a black tuxedo for an event. Should the bow tie and cummerband colour (black) match the lapel. I know it will be the same material. But even in black there are different shades. Thanks

  • @georgelush1998
    @georgelush1998 2 роки тому +51

    I agree wholeheartedly with Brian’s “don’t get creative” advice. The essence of elegance is its simplicity.

    • @1955annemarie
      @1955annemarie 2 роки тому

      George Lush, well said!!! Totally agree!!

  • @believer1028
    @believer1028 4 роки тому +44

    " When things look too perfect, they look wrong" Well said 😂

  • @ly9386
    @ly9386 3 роки тому +32

    The 1st rule is wear a black tie

  • @thomplth
    @thomplth 2 роки тому +7

    Great video. I decided not to join a black tie event.

  • @brunokooij5426
    @brunokooij5426 4 роки тому +77

    A wing collar is perfectly acceptable with a black tie ansamble I think, you saw it more often in the 1920’s and 30’s. So if you want to ad a more vintage touch go for a wing collar. And if you are st it ad a nice low-cut single-Breasted waistcoat.

    • @hespokestyle
      @hespokestyle  4 роки тому +10

      totally.

    • @edwarddell3191
      @edwarddell3191 4 роки тому +8

      I agree wing collar shirts are acceptable but make sure that the bowtie doesn't have a visable adjuster.

    • @heinzguderianbutmoreyounge9659
      @heinzguderianbutmoreyounge9659 3 роки тому +2

      Yeah,tottaly right,especialy with the marcella front,very dashing

    • @JFCotman
      @JFCotman 3 роки тому +3

      Going to disagree here.
      The wing collar exposing the bow tie band takes from the outfits formality.

    • @KaiserFranzJosefI
      @KaiserFranzJosefI 3 роки тому +11

      @@JFCotman Its actually more formal. Tuxedos were always wore with wing collars before

  • @nicegurl408
    @nicegurl408 2 роки тому +12

    Tuxedo stories!!
    1. My mom thinks that the satin strip down the pants, make them look rented. I don’t know where she got that idea…
    2. My husband bought a $600 tuxedo the day before my sister’s party. It checked all the boxes except for the lapel being notched. But worth it. More on that below.
    3. After extensive research on suits, it’s interesting to see people make fun of what they don’t know. I have a cousin that got married in a tuxedo. At my sister’s party, a formal event, my husband wore his tuxedo (I wore an evening gown with long satin gloves). My cousin was making fun of the bow tie. Like… it’s a formal event. How does he not know that a bow tie goes with a tuxedo if he got married in one…?
    4. People say it’s not worth it because you only wear it once. Not true. A friend (70?) lives on a street with a lot of older people. They do this monthly “progressive driveway” where the home owner has a dinner party for the block, and every month it’s at a different neighbor’s house. Because everyone has that “one time use tuxedo” all their dinners are now black tie. How cool is that!?!? You can always make or find a reason to wear one.
    5. Gatsby Roaring 20s theme party. He wore it to my mom’s 60th. I’ll probably use that theme more often, just to see him in his tux 😍
    6. At a company masquerade Christmas party, he wore his tux and everyone was complimenting him for it. From male co-workers to his boss’s boss’s boss. 🥰
    7. The following year, the company party was also a Gatsby Roaring 20s theme. He wore the same tuxedo and also got many compliments from everyone he spoke to. He’s MY arm candy 😊

    • @Harry-tb8yo
      @Harry-tb8yo Рік тому +1

      Funny stories and I had to smile several times since I made similar experiences.
      So here are my tuxedo stories.
      1. I bought my first tuxedo back in 2014 when I made a business trip to Shanghai. I never before wore one or had the opportunity to do so. I have been living in Shanghai some years ago and already knew the tailor where I wanted to buy the tux. Knowing the low price for it, something around 100 Euro at that time, it was kind of a calculated experiment. So why not? Here in Germany the tuxedo is called "Smoking" due to its origins as a smoking jacket. So seeing a sign stating "No smoking!" in front of the stores entrance with a dummy wearing a tuxedo (Smoking) right next to it was a bit confusing for a second.
      2. As said before I never wore a tuxedo before but when I put it on a few days later it just struck me how good I looked in it. Of course I had no idea how the details should look like and after some research on that topic I found out that some things had to be changed: silk stripes down the pants, buttons for suspenders and the pants length. At the end the alterations cost me the same as the tux itself.
      3. Having a tux in the wardrobe is useless if you don't know how to tie a bow tie. I am usually considered to have a workable brain and some decent manual skills but learning how to tie a bow tie properly was quite a hard thing to do for me. I was surprized how much I wanted to learn this skill.
      4. At a company Christmas party some years ago there was no dress code but I chose to wear my tuxedo. The location was located nearby the harbour of Hamburg, a bit fancy and I just wanted to wear my tux. Of course I was the only one and got lots of compliments for it. I also wore the tux for the following company Christmas parties and it was always the same. My boss sometimes has to wear a normal business suit but even he was not aware that this was not a normal suit but a tuxedo. He just realized that there was something different to the suits he was wearing from time to time.
      5. With that experience I realized that almost nobody knew about black tie rules so I started to break or ignore them a bit. So I left the cummerbund at home and put on my blue Omega Seamaster 300. When my colleagues told me that I looked like James Bond and asked where I got my Walther PPK it opened up another occasion to wear the tuxedo: as a costume for a masquerade party.
      6. At one occasion, again a company Christmas party, my mood was different and I chose to wear a suit instead of the tuxedo. That suit was made of a shiny gray fabric and usually draws some attention to it. When I entered the party almost everyone asked me why I didn't wear the tuxedo. It obviously took me only a few times to make the tuxedo my hallmark for that kind of occasions.

  • @Nvlutey27
    @Nvlutey27 4 роки тому +50

    Bugs the hell out of me when people think steel bracelet sport watches are acceptable as dress watches. I guess that's just a sign of my getting old because it seems to be becoming the norm.

    • @hespokestyle
      @hespokestyle  4 роки тому +25

      I think the defense of that will always be James Bond does it!

    • @caseyjonesbklyn5796
      @caseyjonesbklyn5796 4 роки тому +3

      Noodle_Ra Dive watches look bad with tuxedos. James Bond in casino Royale set off a trend. Seems like another Tom ford type trend (like him forcing peak lapels on the public) that became overused.

    • @hespokestyle
      @hespokestyle  4 роки тому +7

      @@caseyjonesbklyn5796 Your opinion! I think they look just fine if it's the right watch.

    • @caseyjonesbklyn5796
      @caseyjonesbklyn5796 4 роки тому +2

      He Spoke Style oh that’s an autocorrect. Meant to say dive watches look bad with tuxedos.
      I’m all for watches with tuxedos. Totally acceptable. A classy dress watch with a nice notch lapel tuxedo is the preferred look of the American gentleman.

    • @guitrmn007
      @guitrmn007 4 роки тому +1

      @@caseyjonesbklyn5796 actually it predates Casino Royale. Connery wore a sport Rolex (with a striped grosgrain watchband no less) with a diner jacket in Goldfinger.

  • @faridmahnad4985
    @faridmahnad4985 4 роки тому +27

    Appreciate the video, question though: does the bottom half of what you‘re wearing match the top half of what you‘re wearing?

    • @hespokestyle
      @hespokestyle  4 роки тому +4

      Excellent question!!! What do you think?

    • @faridmahnad4985
      @faridmahnad4985 4 роки тому +11

      I‘ like to think you‘re wearing boxers and beagle socks. Although more realistically I’d say sweat pants and slippers.

    • @hespokestyle
      @hespokestyle  4 роки тому +19

      @@faridmahnad4985 You'll never know...

    • @ghcheong
      @ghcheong 4 роки тому +3

      If it's a dinner jacket, then no. Otherwise, if it's a traditional tux, yes.

    • @kubastachu9860
      @kubastachu9860 3 роки тому +4

      @@ghcheong he was probably asking about the stage for the recording.

  • @loarbmhs1
    @loarbmhs1 4 роки тому +24

    Very nice review of the essential rules of the black tie uniform. Well done! My minor additions: #3a: A scooped, u-shaped vest is a more bespoke alternative to the cummerbund. #3b: Keep your jacket buttoned when standing-you're not supposed to see the vest or cummerbund. #8a: Make sure the fabric for the stripe down the side of your trousers matches the fabric of your lapel/tie-meaning, grosgrain with grosgrain lapels, not satin with grosgrain lapels. #8b: While plenty of guys wear double vents on a tux as the "modern take" you cite, the absolute classic look is ventless. #9a: Patent leather is far preferable to just a well-shined pair of ordinary dress shoes. The whole point of a black tie outfit is to be different from "regular" dressy clothes, and that literally means from top to bottom.

    • @hespokestyle
      @hespokestyle  4 роки тому

      Thanks for chiming in!

    • @jasonmull3430
      @jasonmull3430 Рік тому

      Bruce, thank you for adding your comments. This video had me a little concerned about a tuxedo I purchased from two very reputable clothiers (Balani Clothiers & Judd Frost Clothier). I wanted to take a moment to reinforce your post in case there is anyone else that may have concerns about your comments.
      My tuxedo's intended use is for my upcoming wedding, and continued use attending corporate galas in the Twin Cities. The clothier that supplies my Samuelsohn tuxedo strenuously objected to peaked and shawl lapels, and satin, stating the gross grain notched lapel is the most universal for all occasions and the emerging trend. They also strongly objected to cummerbunds, but fully support vests provided they are of the exact same fabric & style of the tuxedo coat & trousers. With regard to shoes, you described shoe selection almost exactly the way Balani Clothiers discussed shoes, which is where I purchased my shoes and studs. They supplied me with a custom version of the Magnanni Cesar which have a combination of patent leather toe and heel, and soft Napa leather on the vamp, with rounded toe cup. They are by far the most comfortable and eye-catching formal shoe I've ever found.

  • @yah3238
    @yah3238 4 роки тому +13

    Love this one. I haven't been a black tie event yet so I need to come back to this video when its time.

  • @rripley62
    @rripley62 4 роки тому +9

    Note to self after watching this video: start seeking out black tie events to attend in 2021! lol. Like you, I LOVE dressing in a tux. Well done, once again.

    • @hespokestyle
      @hespokestyle  4 роки тому +1

      Thanks so much, Ron. Really appreciate your continued engagement!

  • @aPixelcoffee
    @aPixelcoffee 4 роки тому +14

    That was the most compact yet exhaustive take on Black Tie I've ever seen. Thanks, Brian.
    I always do Black Tie wrong, but purposely so. I'm in my early 20s and really, there isn't any occasion unless I make it one. I don't even own a complete Black Tie set. But the tux blazers I do own fit me so well that I can easily work around the missing links. There's only one prerequisite: Know the rules well, so you can break them effectively. Your video certainly helps in that regard!

    • @hespokestyle
      @hespokestyle  4 роки тому +2

      There you go! Wise beyond your years!

  • @walterfoyt5985
    @walterfoyt5985 2 роки тому +1

    I like what you said but You need to add a few things. The jacket should hand no vent, the paints should have a matching galon, no belt loops, suspender buttons, and no back pockets.

  • @DemetriosLevi
    @DemetriosLevi 4 роки тому +2

    I'm quite the rule breaker, but I agree all the way. Black tie IS a uniform and to break all rules ruins the entire point. It's time for your woman to shine, not yourself or other men. Great middle ground with the watch question too, but that's no surprise coming from you, Brian!

    • @hespokestyle
      @hespokestyle  4 роки тому +1

      Thanks, as always, Demetrios! Appreciate the comment.

  • @Konsaliki
    @Konsaliki 4 роки тому +4

    Should have been "cummerbund OR black tie appropriate waistcoat OR none of the above if the jacket is double breasted" (although the last exception should go without saying).
    Apart from that minor detail: great video as always, Brian.

  • @defrancebaptiste1004
    @defrancebaptiste1004 4 роки тому +5

    considering the absence of opportunity for white tie event, I would still keep the wing collar as an option, otherwise you never really get the chance to wear it.

    • @hespokestyle
      @hespokestyle  4 роки тому +1

      Better to be overdressed than underdressed.

  • @alirizvi6297
    @alirizvi6297 3 роки тому +5

    What I love about black tie and formalwear in general is that from silhouette and overall appearance, there is a uniform look but more personal details are just that. If you wear red enamel cufflinks, that's going to be the people close to you (physically and figuratively) notice. It's not screaming out to the world.

  • @greggschofield142
    @greggschofield142 4 роки тому +8

    Getting tips on black tie event wear whilst in pyjamas is a rather strange feeling!!

  • @stevenv.surawski1178
    @stevenv.surawski1178 4 роки тому +4

    I think the idea of wearing a dress watch with a Tuxedo falls within the rules. (Must be a Dress Watch)

  • @tobyey9134
    @tobyey9134 4 роки тому +2

    OK so not quite sure what your take on shoe is, you say a black Oxford is the least one can do, but that one should abstain from patent leather and loafers or slippers, so what's the sweet spot shoe then?

    • @hespokestyle
      @hespokestyle  4 роки тому +1

      A simple black oxford well-shined. There are TONS of options and, honestly, there really aren't wrong options--just depends on the particular event. I personally like to wear my patent Belgian shoes most, and then if it's a little less formal, I'll do a velvet slipper.

  • @peppersantiago7995
    @peppersantiago7995 2 роки тому +15

    For those venturing into the realm of Black tie events for the first time, this video is a well done primer on the basics. Whilst I understand Brian's endeavor to educate and equip new wearers of formal attire with all that they need, we must take into account that in 2022, even at holiday gatherings and weddings, athleisure has become the de facto order of the day. Despite what an invitation may read, one should always expect that there will be those who want to display their originality. We now live in an Instagram / Pinterest/facebook world where most people fancy themselves internet influencers, of some kind or another. Said reality now dictates that few will follow the rules set out in this primer. It's important to note, by the way, that there is no governing board or fashion police officer that will be enforcing said rules. If someone is rude enough to attempt etiquette shaming someone , then that person deserves the tongue lashing of ones choosing. Having said that, most, if not all, of the rules that are being espoused here were put in place at the height of America's gilded age and were filtered versions of antiquated Victorian era classicism. The gilded age, by it's very definition, was designed to expressly exclude those deemed undesirable by Mrs. Astor and social ladder climber, Ward McAllister. The question becomes, then, is it time to relax the practice of passing judgment on those who choose their own sartorial path, especially in a society where fashion trends democratize and lead our social experiences?

    • @jamesrosewell9081
      @jamesrosewell9081 2 роки тому +5

      Standards and etiquette aren't classiest, its about holding yourself to a certain standard and doing what's objectively proper. E.g., mismatched lapels and bowtie materials are discordant and not aesthetically pleasing, or not observing buttoning etiquette will lead to an improper look and fit.

    • @peppersantiago7995
      @peppersantiago7995 2 роки тому +6

      @@jamesrosewell9081 standards and etiquette are, by the very definition, classicist. They are rules and standards that were put into place by the upper class, not any lawmaking or governing body of any country. Looks and fit aside, the term upper crust and cream of the crop, we're designed as a way to differentiate oneself from another class.

    • @axiomaddict
      @axiomaddict 10 місяців тому +1

      I think formal dress is it’s own sort of democracy. It simplifies things.

  • @michaelhalvorson9719
    @michaelhalvorson9719 4 роки тому +3

    Hello Mr. Sacawa, I just came upon your channel and I thought your name sounded familiar. Curious if you are still performing with the U.S. Army Field Band. Stay happy and healthy!

  • @henrylemelay5436
    @henrylemelay5436 5 місяців тому +1

    Dutch:de sjaalkraag is voor obers,presentatoren,croupiers,goochelaars en musici.
    Deze mogen dit ook overdag dragen alsook een polshorloge ⌚️

  • @rubie5394
    @rubie5394 3 роки тому +2

    You can wear a wing collar shirt with black tie its a classic and classy way to stand out and you can just do it look a pics for the 20's and 30's and more back and it was very normal back than they made the rules and you can wear it

  • @xaim7344
    @xaim7344 4 роки тому +2

    Great video. But at least here in europe, wing collar is the lord classic way to go for black tie and so its perfectly acceptable :)

  • @colinrenfrew48
    @colinrenfrew48 4 роки тому +5

    Very informative on the details. Calling for a video on how to tie a bow tie. Agree it looks better, but it takes a lot of practice.

  • @bkfabs
    @bkfabs 2 роки тому +3

    Brian, I enjoyed your video. I would add that nowadays there are high end slim fit rental tuxedos made of high quality worsted wools that are appropriate for black tie events. It’s a smart and less expensive alternative to purchasing a tuxedo for someone that rarely needs one.

  • @quadre2002
    @quadre2002 4 роки тому +5

    Dressing up in black tie for my prom (if it happens). Thanks for the insight Brian!

    • @hespokestyle
      @hespokestyle  4 роки тому +4

      That's the way to do it. I actually wore an off-white dinner jacket to my senior prom WAY back in 1995.

    • @quadre2002
      @quadre2002 4 роки тому +2

      @@hespokestyle do you have any pics that you're willing to share?

  • @paladinclothiers3628
    @paladinclothiers3628 4 роки тому +3

    Nicely done. Yes, the rules for winged collars changed seemingly in the 1950's and so now you'd be correct. However, they are not only acceptable but preferred for some period events. Wherein their usage would indicate a better grasp of the period style trends.

  • @philippmohr8113
    @philippmohr8113 4 роки тому +4

    Very informational video! I wish some of my band colleague would have seen this video ages ago, I always feel out of place playing a concert with Balck Tie dresscode and being the only person on the bandstand in a half decent tuxedo. What fabric would you recommend for a tuxedo shirt? Something plain or something with a little more texture?

    • @hespokestyle
      @hespokestyle  4 роки тому +1

      Poplin is a nice fabric for a tux shirt.

    • @sajid6027
      @sajid6027 2 роки тому

      @@hespokestyle voile is better.

  • @sukakawenkawen
    @sukakawenkawen 3 роки тому +1

    I'm going for my cousin wedding, thanks for this. Especially about the watch. You're very detail. 👍

  • @eshahn4415
    @eshahn4415 2 роки тому +1

    Hey there, stumbled upon your video in trying to figure out what to wear for my wedding. Is it frowned upon to wear a black suit with a black bowtie rather than a tux? I don't want to shell out the dough for a tux and the rentals usually can't be tailored. That was the logic behind purchasing a custom suit. My wedding isn't a black tie event and is more casual.

  • @pianomanhere
    @pianomanhere 4 роки тому +3

    Excellent video, Brian. I find it very straightforward and detailed enough so that I don't screw up my look again at a black tie event. Hopefully someday I'll get it "just right" (finally).. Many thanks.

  • @ashleyzheng2244
    @ashleyzheng2244 4 роки тому +11

    I wouldn’t consider a wing collar to not be acceptable for black tie, it’s definitely not commonly seen in the modern world, but if you want to go for a more vintage look, it’s a great choice. It’s also a good way to stand out without breaking rules

  • @nomobties
    @nomobties 4 роки тому +1

    As a self proclaimed strict rule follower what is your take on wearing midnight blue as a substitute for an actual black tuxedo? To be honest I cannot justify the purchase of a Tuxedo given I do not go to black-tie formal events.

  • @karenlehn2351
    @karenlehn2351 3 дні тому

    Recently we were invited to a Black Tie Wedding! First of all, it’s a 1:00 afternoon Wedding,that in my book,isn’t a proper time to ask quests to dress Black Tie. My husband is turning 81 years old,myself 76 years old. We will be dressed very appropriate,for the time of day and Wedding of over 400 quests. My Husband has a double breast Dark navy,sports jacket/ grey slacks,pin striped/ navy white,and a very appropriate,matched scarf and tie. Dark or ox blood shoes. I have always been up to date stylish,my whole life,so No worry what I will look like. It will NOT be evening gown wear by any means,but something very fashionable.We are only going to the Wedding ceremony,because we had prior engagement for our 53 Wedding Anniversary.

  • @nukie404
    @nukie404 4 роки тому +4

    On a roll these days Brian! A question, when in a pinch, what would be the best way to attend a black tie event if you don't own a tux? Best formal dark suit with a dark tie (and letting the host know beforehand I guess)? - Han

    • @hespokestyle
      @hespokestyle  4 роки тому +2

      I think that would be acceptable.

    • @nukie404
      @nukie404 4 роки тому

      @@hespokestyle Thanks for the feedback!

    • @nateranger783
      @nateranger783 4 роки тому +1

      I don't know about people in other countries, but as a person in a semi-rural town in England I find that most charity shops(I think this equates to a thrift store), have a rather good variety of dinner suits, varying in size, quality and style. Often they are rather good deals. Also, most towns around the size of mine tend to have about 7 of these shops, so you'll usually find an acceptable dinner suit in an afternoon; I understand that fit is very important but I haven't had my dinner suit which I bought in one such shop and I'd say it fits well enough(I would have it altered but I'm not fully grown so it'd be a bit of a waste of money).
      That was a bit of a ramble, sorry.

    • @nukie404
      @nukie404 4 роки тому

      ​@@nateranger783 Thanks for the suggestion! Admittedly I have not properly checked out my local charity/thrift stores back when I was in Korea, so I cannot comment on what the quality and variety I could have found there. I do however, believe that most Koreans would have rented one when needed, as the only time one would wear a tuxedo is for their own wedding. Tux rental is usually thrown in for free with bridal dresses (anecdotally, people around me all rented theirs for their wedding). And unless one has an interest in menswear or is involved with a classical orchestra, I don't think there's really any other time we would be required to wear one and thus spend money on one. Of course, to reiterate, this is just what I have experienced personally.
      Buying a tux isn't number 1 on my list right now, but I guess I'll keep an eye out when I visit thrift stores here in the States!

  • @hadenproductions6023
    @hadenproductions6023 4 роки тому +2

    Will you ever check out ministry of supply products. I’ve always wondered if their price tag is worth the “new technology” they claim to have made. Thanks !

  • @qarhsi
    @qarhsi 4 роки тому +2

    great video man! i think i probably won't have to wear a black-tie outfit anytime, not that i can foresee haha. but always great to know the dress code! cheers!

    • @hespokestyle
      @hespokestyle  4 роки тому +1

      There you go! Glad to deliver. Thanks for the comment.

  • @brunogiambroni1422
    @brunogiambroni1422 4 роки тому +3

    Sweet tux! I need to get a new due to losing a lot of weight, thankfully. What’s your opinion on wearing a watch with a tuxedo? I’ve heard some people say that it doesn’t fit the occasion, at least because of inception/introduction of the tuxedo in social settings. I think it looks good with a formal/dress watch, personally.
    Edit: haha, you answered my question as soon as I posted it!

    • @hespokestyle
      @hespokestyle  4 роки тому +3

      No problem, Bruno. And congrats on the weight loss! No easy task. Well done.

    • @arthurwellesley1815
      @arthurwellesley1815 2 роки тому

      Im not asked but i would advise using a pocket watch something classic a wrist watch is very informal with a tuxedo or white because its very easy to look at which implies you have better things to do

  • @Nerdhaunt
    @Nerdhaunt 4 роки тому +1

    Now all we have to do is wait for the things to get normal 😂

  • @MehdiScent
    @MehdiScent 4 роки тому +2

    Wow fantastic video mate 🤜🤛🔥🔥🔥

    • @hespokestyle
      @hespokestyle  4 роки тому +1

      Many thanks. Appreciate the comment.

  • @countalma9800
    @countalma9800 4 роки тому +2

    I am sorry, but must disagree with some of the statements, presented in this video. Matching bowtie fabric to lapel facings is hardly a rule that ought to be strictly followed. If you have a bowtie that perfectly matches the lapels -- good for you, but if you don't, there's no need to worry about it, as long as the bowtie is in black silk, and (that is, indeed, crucial), is of the "self-tie" variety.
    Notch lapels on a dinner jacket don't break any rules, but do look odd, and, considering that 90% of suit jackets and blazers out there (as well as most department store and rental tuxedos) have notch lapels, it's best to avoid them on a dinner jacket. Peaked lapels or a shawl collar make the dinner suit appear much more special.
    Cummerbunds are not required. It's funny that you chose to show a picture of James Bond, considering that James bond almost never appears in a cummerbund in the film series. If one feels that a decorative waist covering is necessary, a low-cut silk waistcoat is a great alternative to the cummerbund. However, if one chooses to wear a waistcoat, he ought to make sure his trousers have a true high-rise, so that the shirt never gets exposed between the waistcoat and the trouser waistband.
    Winged-collared shirts are considered incorrect in England, but I don't see why a high quality winged-collar shirt can't be worn, especially if the collar is detachable. However, one has to make sure that he's wearing it with studs and, either a low-cut waistcoat, or a double-breasted jacket. It's a very vintage-inspired look, which is not for everyone, but if done tastefully, and by someone who knows what he's doing, it can look great.
    Finally, matching all the metals sounds like trying too hard. Does this mean that a set of silver cufflinks and studs can't be paired with a golden wedding band? This can certainly be a personal preference, but hardly a "rule".
    All this being said, we can all have our opinions, as long as our opinions aren't based on ignorance. I find your channel to be one of the best men's wear channels! You have quite an impeccable taste and your attitude is always high class without a hint of pretentiousness. Good luck with everything!

    • @hespokestyle
      @hespokestyle  4 роки тому

      Really appreciate that comment!

    • @loarbmhs1
      @loarbmhs1 4 роки тому +1

      I'm with you-they should match. Yes, it's one of those small details (like having your formal shoes laces in the same fabric!), but that's why they say "God is in the details."

    • @countalma9800
      @countalma9800 4 роки тому

      @@loarbmhs1 Appears too contrived and superfluous to me, but again, it's all a matter of personal taste. :)

  • @gammon1183
    @gammon1183 2 роки тому

    I'm on a budget so I had to rent , I'm 6'7" and 300 pound but I went to my local gentleman's outfitters where they keep in stock my size due to me living in a strong rugby playing area .
    Shoes are tricky as I'm a 14 and I do have some black shoes I havnt worn them. for a while as I have a new beautiful brown pair but you say that's a no no , hoping my old black pair will polish up good but after watching your vid I'm worried .
    Trying to look a million dollars on a shoe string is going to be hard so wish me luck at a prestigious business awards 😓🙂

  • @hernspierre-louis7337
    @hernspierre-louis7337 2 роки тому

    I have to attend black tie event in September 2022 and I don't own a tux. I went out shopping for a tux and none fit the look I desire. My budget is only $1500 for a whole tux which includes the shoes. What would be your best recommendation?

  • @JctsUK
    @JctsUK 4 роки тому +1

    Just a couple that I thought would appear. Quite a big one I think - no clip on braces. It's the equivalent to the clip on bow tie, for children. Wearing a neck tie seems to be growing in popularity but I can't stand it personally. Seems to be very Hollywood. Oh, and don't take your jacket off! It's shocking how many men do halfway through the evening. Good video though, I agree with you

    • @hespokestyle
      @hespokestyle  4 роки тому

      Thanks! Yes, like your addition of no clip-on braces.

  • @angelicosinjian6501
    @angelicosinjian6501 4 роки тому +2

    Solid! Needed this! Thanks for the video! By the way, lovin’ the beard! 👌🏻

    • @hespokestyle
      @hespokestyle  4 роки тому

      Sweet! Glad to deliver! Thanks for the continued support.

  • @Thereisalwaysmore
    @Thereisalwaysmore 3 роки тому

    Why is it that we Americans cannot conform to the rules of black tie. When it comes to suits most Americans are very conservative, dressing outside the norm is frowned upon and many well talk behind your back. Now finally a black tie event is happening and everyone wants to break out by looking unique. I don’t get it. I am different, for black tie: I follow the rules, as for normal every day wear. I wear suits of all types of color and yes I am what you call a Dandy.

  • @MrShinobi797
    @MrShinobi797 4 роки тому +2

    The grown Mush and Beard ties in the overall look rather nicely Brian #MINT

  • @Uchiha_D._Ackerman
    @Uchiha_D._Ackerman Рік тому

    What if I reverse the colors of my tuxedo? jacket, dress pants, waistcoat, and bowtie all in ivory color matched with inner pleated shirt, pocket square, and patented leather shoes all in black.
    of course I will wear this at a formal lunch party instead of dinner.

  • @springinfialta106
    @springinfialta106 4 роки тому +1

    What bowtie goes with a Benedict Cumberbund?

    • @hespokestyle
      @hespokestyle  4 роки тому

      Is this a joke I don't know the answer to????

    • @springinfialta106
      @springinfialta106 4 роки тому

      @@hespokestyle Just a bad pun on Benedict Cumberbatch. I always thought that was a humorous name that would go well for a character in a Harry Potter novel.

  • @ronaldkonkoma4356
    @ronaldkonkoma4356 Рік тому

    Redford black tie The Sting or Legal Eagles . . . Which looks better?
    Sting has the right lapel wrong shirt. Eagles has the right shirt, wrong lapel.

  • @dhanushka5
    @dhanushka5 9 місяців тому +1

    Absolutely marvelous and to the point, thank you for not wasting viewers time.

  • @danielduggan5405
    @danielduggan5405 4 роки тому +2

    Thanks for the video as always. Very timely, actually. I prefer a formal waistcoat over a cummerbund, personally, but otherwise spot on.

  • @alexnw6050
    @alexnw6050 4 роки тому +2

    Maybe a dumb question (definitely a selfish question) I know you said no velvet or suede slippers, but what about whole cut leather slippers with a mirror shine (no bow, so not an opera pump - something like J. Fitzpatrick's laurelhurst without a medallion)?
    I ask because as of now my fiancee and I are planning a wedding for fall 2021, that's been the plan since pre-covid (yes, it's our wedding and I can wear what I want, but would appreciate your ruling on this ;) )

    • @hespokestyle
      @hespokestyle  4 роки тому +2

      I think those would look great. Very elegant.

    • @alexnw6050
      @alexnw6050 4 роки тому

      @@hespokestyle thank you! I appreciate your response on this, I think I'll go for it...the only question left is black vs dark navy (since I'll likely be wearing a midnight navy tux). Luckily I have time to decide.

    • @caseyjonesbklyn5796
      @caseyjonesbklyn5796 4 роки тому

      The J Fitzpatrick Laurelhurst without a medallion, in my opinion, is the best tuxedo shoe out there. And of course a whole cut with a nice shine is great. Certainly don't need patent leather (I would stay away from patent leather as it usually signifies rental tuxedo)

  • @tommyredgonzales9781
    @tommyredgonzales9781 4 роки тому +2

    It is my understanding that black tie events are for all the men to blend in together..and for the woman they are with to shine

  • @sludgehammerz
    @sludgehammerz 4 роки тому +3

    Nice video Brian. I love these hyper specific videos as a lot of videos on more general topics by other men’s style creators cover things I’ve already heard a million times.

    • @hespokestyle
      @hespokestyle  4 роки тому +2

      Many thanks! What, you don't want me to do a video on the 10 things women hate???!!!!

    • @sludgehammerz
      @sludgehammerz 4 роки тому +1

      He Spoke Style HAHA there’s a reason you’re my favorite men’s style creator

  • @deez6005
    @deez6005 4 роки тому +1

    What’s some good cologne for black tuxedos

    • @hespokestyle
      @hespokestyle  4 роки тому +1

      Ask and you shall receive: ua-cam.com/video/HpAEoyMz89c/v-deo.html

    • @deez6005
      @deez6005 4 роки тому

      He Spoke Style
      Thanks
      😁😁😁😁

  • @declan9601
    @declan9601 4 роки тому +3

    Love the video!! But which fragrances would you suggest for when wearing a tuxedo?

    • @hespokestyle
      @hespokestyle  4 роки тому +3

      Doing that video next week!

    • @declan9601
      @declan9601 4 роки тому +4

      He Spoke Style - Brilliant! I’ll look forward to it! 😀

    • @clintony3000
      @clintony3000 4 роки тому +3

      Of the fragrances I own, I'd probably wear Bleu de Chanel

    • @hespokestyle
      @hespokestyle  4 роки тому +1

      @@declan9601 Stay tuned!

  • @terrycullen3302
    @terrycullen3302 4 роки тому +1

    While buying a tuxedo is probably better than renting one, I'm not sure that's a realistic option for most people, particularly since so few occasions call for black tie. I think it would be tough to justify buying a tuxedo unless I knew for sure there would be black tie events I would be attending on a fairly regular basis.

    • @hespokestyle
      @hespokestyle  4 роки тому +1

      All I'm saying is that you won't ever regret having a tux.

  • @davisantos3431
    @davisantos3431 4 роки тому +2

    Great video. What are your thoughts on waistcoats for black tie?

    • @hespokestyle
      @hespokestyle  4 роки тому

      Definitely doable. Not my thing, personally, but they look great.

    • @loarbmhs1
      @loarbmhs1 4 роки тому +1

      That's what I wear. Had it made as part of my bespoke tux. A subtle way to differentiate yourself from all the cummerbunds. But it has to have a scooped, u-shaped front. Under no circumstances get one that looks remotely like the vest you'd wear with a business suit.

  • @sicktry
    @sicktry 3 роки тому

    Would you call it acceptable to go on a black-tie event in a Highland black-tie dress, aka Prince Charlie?

  • @alijahthomas5687
    @alijahthomas5687 4 роки тому +1

    Wowwwwww that’s cool. Why was I on Mr. porter looking at that brand and was contemplating on getting it. Now I’m for sure ordering it. Thank you. Your watch collection is amazing. What do you think of the Omega Seamaster 300?

    • @hespokestyle
      @hespokestyle  4 роки тому

      Cool watch. I like the older pre-Bond seamasters myself!

  • @jayallen283
    @jayallen283 2 роки тому +1

    Thank you for the great, succinct advice! Do you have a video or advice for outer wear for cold month black tie events?

  • @wpblu
    @wpblu 2 роки тому

    Ok so I’m going to a birthday party with a black tie dress code. Could I wear the slippers in that setting

  • @Blackluuvv
    @Blackluuvv 4 роки тому

    James Bond did not wear a cumberbund in casino royale. What is the purpose of the cumberbund?

  • @panman2632
    @panman2632 3 роки тому +1

    Hi I need help! I’m having my wedding in summer and the heat is deadly here in Australia, I feel like my groomsmen will want to wear sun glasses, how do I tell them not to?! Or is it possible to wear sun glasses (somehow)? Haha

    • @hespokestyle
      @hespokestyle  3 роки тому

      First, congratulations!! The thing that I find tacky about how groomsmen look sometimes is that they’re too uniform. Everyone wearing the same sunglasses would look very contrived. If they want to wear sunglasses out of necessity, that’s cool-will look better if not squinting in photos-just don’t have them match. Good luck!

  • @Agrippa31BC
    @Agrippa31BC 3 роки тому

    Tying a bow tie is literally like tying shoes. Not rocket science. Can’t understand those who aren’t willing to learn.

  • @jarradsharman5181
    @jarradsharman5181 4 роки тому +1

    just an observation on #3, a low cut waistcoat is also fine

  • @MN-sk6pj
    @MN-sk6pj 4 роки тому +1

    Wear a tux in the evening after 6 PM! That's the rule. I hate weddings where alle men wearing this during the day.

  • @jsellis421
    @jsellis421 4 роки тому +1

    I know you got a double vent on your wedding tuxedo. Did you go with a double vent or no vent on your other tuxedo jackets? What about your dinner jackets? How do you feel about those. No vent or double vent ?

    • @hespokestyle
      @hespokestyle  4 роки тому +2

      So, the tux I'm wearing here is by RL. It has a single vent. My Edward Sexton DB dinner jacket is no vent--wanted SUPER classic and old school. My burgundy dinner jacket from MAB--will be available when we launch the collection--is also a double vent.

  • @Sammy2g3
    @Sammy2g3 Рік тому

    Dang I just bought a black suit got a nice tuxedo shirt. Got a black vest and a bow tie.

  • @leontt2592
    @leontt2592 4 роки тому +1

    You can wear a wing collar if it is the shirt from white tie that is a marcela and stif fronted starched single cuff with cufflinks

  • @mrbill780
    @mrbill780 4 роки тому +1

    I like the formal vest over the cummerbund because I have a belly and the cummerbund likes to move on me, but a waist covering is non negotiable

    • @hespokestyle
      @hespokestyle  4 роки тому

      Perfectly acceptable. Thanks for the comment, William.

  • @wissamharb5684
    @wissamharb5684 7 місяців тому

    What about a silk bowtie with a satin lapel? There's a shine on both but the silk bow tie has a darker black shade

  • @tridiminished
    @tridiminished 4 роки тому +2

    I watched the GQ tux expert video a while ago. I like what he said about watches something akin to "You shouldn't wear a watch in black tie, you should have nowhere else to be other that right there at that moment."

    • @caseyjonesbklyn5796
      @caseyjonesbklyn5796 4 роки тому +1

      atomicvocabulary that’s a traditional black tie rule. But in America watches are perfectly acceptable. Watches with a tuxedo are like a notch lapel tuxedo. If you are an American then embrace your heritage. (The worst are the nerds who think watches are ok but notch lapels break the rules)

    • @hespokestyle
      @hespokestyle  4 роки тому

      That's something people like to tout as a "rule" and a reasoning for it. I recommend checking out the other video I did that specifically addresses this topic.

    • @hespokestyle
      @hespokestyle  4 роки тому +3

      I guess I'm a nerd in your expert opinion then.

    • @caseyjonesbklyn5796
      @caseyjonesbklyn5796 4 роки тому

      He Spoke Style ha, yeah you are adopting style forum nerd tendencies with that view. “Break the rule on watches with tuxedos, but don’t wear notch lapels...”. Uhhh, prince Phillip is the best dressed of the royals and he is always wearing notch lapels. And if you are going to advocate breaking of one rule (watch is ok), but then say that the lapel has to be peak (which doesn’t look good on many people, and is certainly not a “rule”), well that type of inconsistency is wrong.
      In America notch lapels are preferred and watches are acceptable. There is a reason why bergdorf, brooks brothers, Paul Stuart, Armani and other decent brands sell so many notch lapel tuxedos (they look better than the peak for many people, the peak looks like you’re trying too hard sometimes)

  • @alijahthomas5687
    @alijahthomas5687 4 роки тому +1

    Hey Brian. I was wondering what brand are you using for your watch collection. The Abe of the box

  • @NotMePlease1
    @NotMePlease1 2 місяці тому

    When is a bow tie tucked under a pin point collared shirt?

  • @nateranger783
    @nateranger783 4 роки тому +1

    I disagree with the wing collar, I think they look very good with black tie as well as white tie. I rather like the idea from the Gentlemen's Gazette of wearing the waistcoat and starched shirt from white tie with the rest of a black tie ensemble, however I wouldn't really want to do the white waistcoat myself. I'd say the problem with the starched wing collar would be that a lot of people find them uncomfortable, I don't find it uncomfortable but that's just me. I agree with the rest of the video but am slightly confused by the 'Don't be creative unless specified otherwise' sort of statement, do I have a rather strict definition of creativity or would that mean that an odd dinner jacket or midnight blue dinner suit would not be acceptable in your opinion?

    • @hespokestyle
      @hespokestyle  4 роки тому +1

      Thanks for the comment, Nate! If it's strict black tie, I would not wear an odd dinner jacket. A midnight blue tux would be okay, IMO.

    • @nateranger783
      @nateranger783 4 роки тому +1

      @@hespokestyle I would agree, also thank you for your quick response, but I don't really know how to gauge how strict an event would be. I know the general rules for velvet slipper wearing but do you have any advice on gauging the formality? Other than specifically asking the host, which would of course work.

  • @ЛукаТ-э3э
    @ЛукаТ-э3э 5 місяців тому

    Why cummerband when we can also wear dinner vest?

  • @basilmathai828
    @basilmathai828 4 роки тому +3

    please keep the beard ;D

    • @rakuskus7813
      @rakuskus7813 4 роки тому +1

      Basil Mathai he already cut the beard, if u follow his ig you can see he did it.

    • @hespokestyle
      @hespokestyle  4 роки тому

      Thanks for following on IG!

    • @hespokestyle
      @hespokestyle  4 роки тому

      Gone already, unfortunately.

  • @temprohell
    @temprohell 4 роки тому +1

    Awesome video as always Brian, what is your take on a vest with a tux? Should it match the rest of the tux or can it be made from another fabric, maybe satin? Hahaha, don't want to get too creative, just curious.

    • @hespokestyle
      @hespokestyle  4 роки тому +1

      It's not really a style I've worn myself but I think it looks nice. It should be in the same fabric as the tux.

  • @maxibaxi1350
    @maxibaxi1350 4 роки тому +1

    I'd not say that wing collars aren't acceptable and only used for white tie. They just look at bit more old fashioned and you stand out of the crowd wearing them.

    • @hespokestyle
      @hespokestyle  4 роки тому +1

      Yeah, bit of a grey area there, for sure. Anyways, better to be overdressed rather than underdressed. The gents in the Sting look just fine!

    • @maxibaxi1350
      @maxibaxi1350 4 роки тому +1

      @@hespokestyle They absolutely do

  • @consheitta3718
    @consheitta3718 Рік тому

    I make ties.
    Is there any way you can use them for any occasion.

  • @gott-dna
    @gott-dna 4 роки тому +1

    You look great - and thanks for as always valuable information!

    • @hespokestyle
      @hespokestyle  4 роки тому +1

      Many thanks! Appreciate the comment and support!

  • @thijsco5
    @thijsco5 4 роки тому +1

    Great video. Just wondering, whats your opinion on navy tuxedos?

    • @hespokestyle
      @hespokestyle  4 роки тому

      Many thanks. Midnight blue also a great option.

  • @MauricXe
    @MauricXe 3 роки тому

    is midnight navy or black preferred? Can midnight navy go anywhere a black tuxedo can go?

  • @PinacoladaMatthew
    @PinacoladaMatthew 2 роки тому

    I don't care, I love wing collar

  • @johnparnell8571
    @johnparnell8571 Рік тому

    Great content, Brian. My dinner suit is bespoke double breasted and pristine in spite of being more than 70 years old. Because of the jacket style and the fact that the suit was designed to be worn with button fastened braces, I don't wear a cummerbund with it. Right or wrong?

  • @justinlow1990
    @justinlow1990 Рік тому

    for the tuxedo studs and cufflinks, am i able to wear mother of pearl instead of the usual black onyx? i am just thinking for my upcoming wedding. or is that a purely white tie event thing? thank you

  • @stephenwilliams1269
    @stephenwilliams1269 4 роки тому +2

    Black tie dress is the absolute best look for a man. I agree no fake ties, buy a real bow tie and learn how to tie it. It is easy. A proper dress shirt , studs and cuff links. Great video as always. I wear a dress watch black strap.

    • @hespokestyle
      @hespokestyle  4 роки тому

      Thanks, Stephen. What's your go-to black tie watch?

    • @stephenwilliams1269
      @stephenwilliams1269 4 роки тому

      @@hespokestyle Hello an Cartier Tank

    • @caseyjonesbklyn5796
      @caseyjonesbklyn5796 4 роки тому

      Stephen Williams Cartier tank on a black strap is a perfect tuxedo watch. The tank has such an elegant look.

    • @hespokestyle
      @hespokestyle  4 роки тому +1

      @@caseyjonesbklyn5796 Agreed. Changed your tune?!

    • @caseyjonesbklyn5796
      @caseyjonesbklyn5796 4 роки тому

      He Spoke Style ha. No, that other post had an autocorrect. It says five watches don’t look good, was supposed to say “dive watches” don’t look good with a tuxedo. I’m all for the watch and tuxedo. I embrace my American heritage.

  • @krollic
    @krollic 4 роки тому +1

    Could I wear black Balmoral boots with a tuxedo or do they have to be shoes?

    • @hespokestyle
      @hespokestyle  4 роки тому

      I wouldn't, personally.

    • @deez6005
      @deez6005 4 роки тому

      Wouldn’t those boots go great with a suit instead?

  • @orionspero560
    @orionspero560 3 роки тому

    I think that I've seen a couple times recently in tuxedo that I lshe knows that I like is maroon or burgundy burgundy shirt with black lace ( having a blouse like maroon with black lace look) paired with a bright Royal blue jacket and pants.

  • @rakshit8454
    @rakshit8454 4 роки тому +1

    I love your videos they are very detailed but I have a question... Can I get a satin cuff on my double breasted suit or is the satin cuff mandatory and also can I get a 2inch hem on my pants like the one you get on your custom suits. I did that recently and I am loving it they provide more character and edge to the suit.

    • @hespokestyle
      @hespokestyle  4 роки тому +1

      Tux trousers should be plain bottom. What do you mean satin cuff? Like a cocktail cuff on the jacket? (I did that on my wedding tux.) If that's what you're talking about, it should match the fabric of the lapel.

    • @rakshit8454
      @rakshit8454 4 роки тому

      @@hespokestyle Yess that is what I am talking about and how thick should the cocktail cuff be? Thank you ♥️

  • @christiankrusechristiankru5558
    @christiankrusechristiankru5558 3 роки тому

    If someone wants to wear a loafer. Do a opera pump instead, more classic and very comfortable! Also wear that with white tie as well, anything else doesn’t really look good.

  • @Crow-yf2ps
    @Crow-yf2ps 4 місяці тому

    Please I don't understand anything

  • @cocoapuff9227
    @cocoapuff9227 4 місяці тому

    I loved the details and explanations of the rules. I have a black tie event in October, so this info was spot on. Especially about the watch!!

  • @toonsoffun5733
    @toonsoffun5733 3 роки тому

    The socks should be over the calf aswell.

  • @OMENAKAKKU-vr3fe
    @OMENAKAKKU-vr3fe 2 роки тому

    I WOULD LOVE TO USE TUXEDO ON RANDOM ACCATIONS