Eco India: What ails Corbusier's Chandigarh?
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- Опубліковано 10 жов 2024
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Chandigarh is a rare example of a city planned and built to be sustainable. But its growing reputation as a smart city appears to have come at the expense of its ecological heritage. What’s the best way forward and what lessons can be learned?
Credits:
Supervising Producer: Nooshin Mowla
Field Producer & Script: Juhi Chaudhary
Video Editor: Richard Kujur
Producer: Ipsita Basu
Director of Photography: Richard Kujur
Production Assistant: Aakriti Thatal
Voiceover: Chandy Thomas
Executive Producer: Sannuta Raghu
![स्मार्ट सिटी चंडीगढ़ भी इतना स्मार्ट नहीं बचा [Chandigarh- Smart city replaces green oasis?]](/img/n.gif)
As a Chandigarhian, this video hits hard while giving a vibe of nostalgia. Chandigarh was and is famous for being different to the other metros while providing the same amenities. If we allow sky scrapers and flyovers to be built out here, it will be akin to destroying the soul of this city. Huge respect to all the activists involved in stopping such activities.
What will you do with the exploding population? After 10 years there will be no space for cars left.
Chandigarh is a soulless city. Period.
Lol. Nostalgia.
@@MaTara01 Yeah, I have seen the soul of Delhi and Mumbai. The most disgusting places I have seen in my life. Trash is everywhere, smell everywhere, no cleanliness awareness, no planning of anything, crowded streets, traffic jams, can't even cycle there safely. The people can't even walk in Old Delhi without being hit why cars here and there.
Thik hai Bro Chandigarh being soul less, Kaam chla lenge.
@@rahulj.005 clearly you don't understand the meaning of the word "soul". Please look it up in the dictionary, before spouting venom about other cities. Chandigarhites/Punjabis cannot take any criticism whatsoever & when that's accompanied by a delusional stubborn mindset & mindless worship of Mammon, it's game over really for their own individual souls & their collective soul as a community; sadly, its reflected in their self-proclaimed "City Beautiful".
Civil Servants should be ashamed of themselves for justifying their nonsense, and apathy. Thanks for sharing this, Scroll. Brilliant presentation.
You are just on hate & propaganda trip through your nonsense remarks for civil servants! 🤦♂️
yes they love to grandstand
Salute to these conscientious citizens! Its because of such people that the city remains an oasis amongst squalor. Hope we all realise our collective responsibility and take ownership of what ails our surroundings.
what language is this ?
Better than yours
@@ramesh.kkrishna5852
Kindly, be a little more understanding. Have some empathy for everyone, including yourself. Thanks 😐
Does Chandigarh has clean Environment ?
Good
Skyscrapers, flyovers are not meant for Chandigarh.
Some bans on its own Vehicles are badly required like that of Barcelona's square blocks model wherein traffic is banned in internal roads.
Now they want Barcelona in Chandigarh. Oh gawd. 😂
Completely agree on banning cars. But they should be replaced with Bus/tram/metro services.
Building more roads and flyovers is not a solution, the solution is to develop and expand 24 hour public transport. Once a robust public transport system is in place cars would gradually start declining in number.
Incorrect
@@boomerang0101 elaborate please ... because I think public tranportation is the only solution ... look at the nordic countries as an example.
@@hemantsarthakjinke pass car ha wo Kabhi public transport use nahi karenge.
Clearly you don't understand the mindset of the average Chandigarhite resident, which this documentary didn't cover. They will buy cars for their hamsters if they can. And as for the likes of Sareen & Bali, they are stuck in their ivory towers and what they don't want is a crash in the house prices, which is abnormally high & kept so. I would like Ms. Bali to take Chandigarh /Haryana /Mohali public transport via Tribune Chowk on a daily basis for work, and see if she changes her mind about the flyover. Chandigarh is not the personal "jaagir" of Le Corbusier (and he got a lot of things wrong too - since he never factored in the population increase & the inflexibility of his Master plan is what will kill the city ultimately) or of old time, ultra - rich Chandigarh elites like Max Sareen.
@@hemantsarthakwhile having better public transport system will help but I don’t think it will quite solve the problem for that you have to understand the psychic behind people here because cars are just not modes of transport here they are much more than that so while better public transportation might help a bit it won’t solve the issue completely
wow I live in mohali but had no idea about all these activists and their work, feel proud and would like to join them in their quest to preserve the best city of India.
Best city in India?! 😂 You mean in showing off what bad taste & dirty money can really do!! 🤣
😂😂 these comments are knee slappers
With God's blessing I have been to many cities in my journey, where I stayed and lived the life.
And I most say this is the city I fell in love with❤ because it made me feel like home like peace and calm at the same time vibrant and full of life. ❤❤❤❤
The lake, the gardens the malls the near by hills.
I most favorite is space about the road for vehicle for cycle for walking the parking. And the smart choice of planting the same plants at each sector. Like 1 area is full of organge flowers, another are full of yellow flowers. ❤❤
And the food. ❤
Night canteen 💞
And police at each check post no matter what isthe time. ❤
Instead of building more roads we have to promote bicycling just like some European countries where people bicycle through 3-4km distance.
Here in Chandigarh each person individually is carrying a SUV and irony is time to reach destination is same in both cases
They can create an underground pass thru. They need a visionary planner. Most of India's development is blindingly following mostly US 60s and 80s models. It is sad to see as most people are short-sighted as they look for immediate comforts. Also to blame city and state planners sleeping while Chandigarh continues to grow.
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Our dvelopment projects are always stalled and modified by local merchant community.Because they did not want their market location to lose importance.
Other lobby which influence the projects is of Real Estate agents.Usually all small local politicians have stake in real estate.
@@UPSCExam-x1othis gets funnier with each comment. Corbisier built a city with unnatural flow and restrictions on scale. Hr wanted businesses in each block to prevent centralisation. It creates hegemonic and oligopolic business that have vested interest in not allowing in competition/change. 😂
Today people drop his name with pride while suffering his design choices. 😂
Corbusier is the one name that brings the American and European schools of urban design together in Hatred. 😂
the Chandigarh Metro has been approved and will serve as an underground system to traverse Tricity
Despite living in Norway’s I still miss this gorgeous city, and it’s night life. I wanna spend my later life in Chandigarh
Having been a citizen of Chandigarh, involved with its architecture, planning and landscape then, and even decades later, I am happy you have brought out the weaknesses of poor governance and the anger/ disgust/ love for city by some ecologically conscious citizens and about our close associates which gives me a lot of confidence about its future ….. God bless the right thinking future envisioning citizens and May the legacy of Le Corbusier live on forever. Many aren’t aware he was one of the 10 best architects of the last century
Manmohan sareen is not an activist, he is a rich NIMBY(not in my back yard) hampering city’s growth, who wants the city for himself and his rich old friends
100% true.
Are rich young yuppies better? Go build your own city instead of turning every place into a slum without adequate drinking water.
Dear Chandigarh, if you appoint a kid as a director don't be surprised when the movie is a cartoon.
@@thewhatorwhy you are just hampering your own city's growth, good luck with it.
@@goku9401 The city is grown.
Thank you so much for taking up this project, hope this opens up some brains and let the reality sink-in. Appreciated the hard work of all the activist involved.
Salute to great environment conservation activists!!🙏👍👏👏👏👏big applause for our judiciary to set the law right and maintaining the right balance of man and nature 👍
The right balance of man & nature is pretty much screwed for the forthcoming future for all humanity & saving the trees of Chandigarh isn't going to solve the problem. The justice system in India isn't that great either - it's gamed as hell & the SC itself is an undemocratic institution because of its collegium system of appointment for the judges.
A better solution would be if every house in Chandigarh is legally allowed to have only 2 vehicles & all school kids have to take school buses or cycle or walk to school. Let's see how many Chandigarh environmental activists support that.
undoubtedly Chandigarh is beautiful City. I was used to Live in sector 37c . i Miss those beautiful days when I used to roam park daily in late nights. but will say it's not only tree's who make City beautiful but people who treats outsiders with warmth, treat them well. unfortunately everyone in Chandigarh want to exploit outsiders. Tenant exploit students Main reasons such as high demand for student accommodations, lack of regulatory oversight, and unscrupulous landlords taking advantage of vulnerable students. same with medical treatment they charge exceptionally higher from outsiders.
Ouch, and I thought of visiting from the South
@@deepasampathkumar you should buddy. my bad experience with people do not reflection of Chandigarh as a whole.if you want to travel as a tourist it's good place to visit. but if you want accommodation, hotels pgs here please do proper reserch try to shift with like minded people.
Excellent reporting, by considering every stakeholder's viewpoint- citizens, activists, and administrators.
Why not farmers and army? Are they lesser citizens?
Old markets should be compressed into a mall and the recovered area from such shops / markets should be used to develop more parks and plant more trees
Planting more trees is not going to solve the problem of either Chandigarh's congestion or pollution. Tell Sareen & Bali & every tree hugger in Chandigarh to own just one car or better still use Uber & Ola.
Disgusting capitalist suggestion that our prophet Corbusier denounces from his grave. 😂
I have lived in Chandigarh for 4 years. And I love this city. I miss you the 'City beautiful'. See you soon.
Clearly you have no idea what a "city beautiful" really is.
Chd. Is now under a lot of stress. Previous CMs have done bad by allowing satellite towns to flourish.
Green area everywhere.. so many trees in Chandigarh ❤
And yet pollution levels in Chandigarh are rising, rather than falling. Guess why?
@@MaTara01 I think its still far good then hundreds of cities around the country having same population. I think there should be daily restrictions for entry of vehicles in city and ownership of not more than one car and one 2-wheeler or just only two 2-wheelers in a house.
@@rahulj.005 Please STOP comparing Chandigarh with other Indian cities; it has no parallel in India. Apples & watermelons might be fruit, but they are not born the same way, so comparisons between them isn't fair. Compare Chandigarh with Chandigarh itself. What it used to be & what it has & is becoming & that's happened because of Chandigarhites, no one else. It's problems will not be solved by protecting a few trees & waxing eloquent about its green spaces.
@@MaTara01 I will compare because not a single area in these cities is a good as Chandigarh. If Chandigarh can do this on a large scale, why not these cities even in their small areas. I am ashamed as an Indian when I go to these cities.
@@rahulj.005 Clearly you are proving yourself to be a veritable genius, in persisting with your irrelevant comparisons. You haven't been fortunate enough to see the posh areas of many of the metro cities or of quaint towns of India. I am deeply ashamed of Chandigarh & Chandigarhites.
happy to see such aware people about our environment
The video points out various problems being faced by Chandigarh. We residents are also responsible for many of them. The original settlers were predominantly lower middle class to upper middle class people who were looking for a place of their own. Now that the city has come up, people coming don’t bother much about environment. They don’t have any compunction in damaging in green cover or creating pollution. There are so many things which cannot be put in a few words.
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I 4:40 I concur. The rapid concreting is really concerning with gardens giving way to parking spaces
How shamefully that city commissioner lady is lying....😂
Such an interesting documentary .. I live in Bangalore and it’s sad to see what the city has become ..
Yes Namma Bengaluru is going down!
What makes Chandigarh special is its architecture & it’s people. In chd you will find three types of people punjabi, Haryanvi & Himachali. CHD is true gem of north India.
Made from villages of punjab
Chandigarh was part of Ambala District which is in Haryana .Even Shah commission has given Kharar tehsil including Chandigarh to Haryana
Too many Himachalis are coming to Chandigarh and buying properties. Please don't come here as we Punjabis are not allowed to buy land in Himachal. These himachalis/haryanvis have destroyed our city that once was a peaceful place in 80s-90s
@@factspk373 Exactly
@@factspk373 lawhore was made over deaf bodies of punjab.
Beautiful city of Punjab ♥
punjabs city
It's of Haryana too. It's capital of both Punjab and Haryana.
If the trees are cut, there will be no Chandigarh, it will only be grassland deserted picnic spot then, people come for the trees not for the flyovers
Pavila ji...devta apkey ki roop mei aatey hain. Big fan of yours. Thanks for saving the gentle giants.
Great video 🙏
Chandigarh is my childhood home town. My observations-
(1) Any solution to combat increased pollution and climate impacts without fixing the underlying issue of over population would be bandaging without treating the wound.
(2) Chandigarh is one of those cities that can easily be made walkable or manual bike or manual rickshaw commute intensive. Public transportation can be made more effective. However, we are going in opposite direction besides increased cars and other fossil/EV dependent commute; we also replaced manual rickshaw with smoke emitter or EV autos that create emissions or toxic battery waste.
(3) Constructed Home density obviously increased due to population but also noticed that even the rich people who constructed new home made massive structures leaving very little space for front yard, side yard and backyards. Since most homes use cement, marble and bricks- heat radiating effect increases. This can easily be handled by provide regulations inline with green building and green cover requirements.
(4) Outdoor side small green patches of land next to every house are now all replaced by concrete- again adding to heat radiated during summers.
(5) Agree poor business practices aka capitalist mindset that focuses on short term gains over sustainable practices is one of the major reason after over-population issue. Have walked the high end and the low end markets and even with the explosion in population seems difficult to comprehend how ever all that stuff would find buyers? Would not be surprised if a major chunk ends in landfills - an issue even with rich countries. Degrowth is necessary (details available - can google or on UA-cam)
(6) Bring to forefront the climate activists and subject matter experts like certified permaculture designers to provide solutions.
(7) Creating communities where people living in Chandigarh participate in solution, clean up efforts is essential. If there is such communities- would help if more and more people are made aware of it.
(8) Kudos to Pavila Bali. Anandita Mitra ji stated that sum total on green cover is being maintained (if not improved I guess). But knowing due to increased population density, more and more construction on land is being done - how is her statement feasible. Guessing it is reforestation at relatively far off places/outskirts - that is definitely a great initiative and much needed; however I do not understand how does that help stop eco-degradation of the city? More construction in the city means city loosing more green cover. This further pushes people indoors, increase dependence on energy for cooling and for commute.
(9) I personally can say with 💯 certainty that the city, called “the city beautiful” is degrading fast. I have memories of the city from 1980s onwards and can compare. Calling it one of the best smart cities only makes sense because most of the other cities and human dwellings are degrading as well. But otherwise it’s a false victory statement if you know city does not even live up to its own previous glory of being a beautiful planned green city.
(10) Agree that ebike is not right because of the battery waste handling challenges. Agree manual cycling is good for public health- mental and physical both. Agree vandalism is an issue but only cameras won’t do it. Having efficient police force at work is necessary- Kiran Bedi’s work strategies can be looked at because she is one of the most effective and honest personality known who has a record of controlling crime in every area of operation assigned to her. Her input /insight on increased gang fights in jail in recent times even with high tech surveillance is testimony to the fact that tools alone cannot go far unless backed by human efficiency.
(11) It would help to know how can we connect with the activists. I will google but any email of the social activists group would be a nice to have.
What about Himachalis and other North Indians destroying culture of city? They have destroyed the peaceful city that was in the 80s-90s I grew up in.
You forgot the Punjabi mindset - that's what needs changing and that's what is ailing Chandigarh. The average kid in Chandigarh can't iron his/her clothes, polish his/her shoes, clean their rooms and pick up their pedigree pooches' poos - and you expect them to clean up the city!! 😅
@@MaTara01Agree but assuming that social responsibility cannot trigger by making youth look at ground realities outside of their home periphery is also not right. Have you ever noticed instances where even we as kids heard our teachers better than parents just because parents also happen to be the extra cushion of over care for kids out of love.
Point is - community formation and normalizing discussion with all age groups will help. We all know kids and adults both can act stubborn but human nature is also motivated by work; helping each other walk the mile to that state of mind is what needs to be done.
@@swatisharma9006 What a lovely airy fairy world you live in, my dear! Hardly surprising because born & bred Punjabi Chandigarhites are some of the most delusional people I have met on the planet. Chandigarh is damned because of its irredeemable residents - the rest is irrelevant.
One of the mos important things chandigarh needs is a better public transport network - bus service is good but it gets stuck in the same traffic that cars get stuck in. We need a dedicated bus rapid transport network with its own lanes.
Inspiration should be taken from European cities rather than the American ones. A good tram network like in European cities can work wonders in connecting the sectors, thus, reducing various short trips made using cars.
These alone will reduce car traffic & dependency to a big level.
4:04 it's a blunder mistake the map you are showing is Ludhiana
The belief that building more roads or flyovers will help in reducing the traffic has to be the stupidest yet.
It doesn't work like that. Messing up Chandigarh just for some flyovers is a really stupid idea.
What do you suggest be the solution? Chandigarh is the administrative capital of Punjab & Haryana & a UT, therefore, either the capitals have to be moved out of Chandigarh or the people who work for Punjab, Haryana & UT be given accommodation within Chandigarh with a dedicated public transport network & a total ban on the use of cars. Not happening, is it?
This belief in building roads itself is wrong. Humans existed thousands of years without roads. Even if needed a 6 foot single lane for buses is all we need.
@@MaTara01please convert the gardens to farms. You can earn in crores. Use that money to buy cyclesm
Farming doesn't pay much & hence, the Punjabi farmers are protesting. And I am all for regression to cave man times - most local residents, already have a head start on it! 😂
Being in Chandigarh from 1965 can say changes in building bye laws allowing floor area to increase has led to population explosion
Floor wise sale of property should not be allowed . In each and every second floor no kitchen was allowed as it was general use .Rapid urbanisation in periphery is killing this beautiful city
There is a tendency in Chandigarhites to blame others for their problems. Chandigarh is being killed by Chandigarhites.
Chandigarh is full of government employees and most government employees are well trained to shift their responsibility 😂😂 .. So as most Chandigarh residents
I lived in 16 and 22.
The city's quiet and serene.
Top choice to settle down if you're a silent and discipline loving soul.
Also, you need to be rich.
I hope the concept of town planning evolves in India soon. We are looking to build smart cities nowdays. But rather we should build eco smart cities
Why not caves?
at leat in this part of country ,official respond to the problems and acknowledge them
I lived in ludhiana during childhood days. In 90's it was exciting to visit chandigarh. I visited recently. It is little polluted and congested now. Needs upgrade.. My view
I like paveela's thoughts 💐.
Also, I would like efforts by all to keep greenery in Chandigarh.
I also appreciate this channel too.
Thnks for this information and documentary.
Love You Chandigarh !
You are pride and joy of all Punjabis. We shall do whatever it takes to add a million adornments to you and give grace of jewels to your two arms of Mohali and Panchkula. Save your greens meanwhile.
Great video .very informative. Hopefully the new government will take care of these issues
I love my city beautiful
I call it the City Dreadful! 😂
The city that was never designed to be a city.
@@rutvikrs Exactly!
@@MaTara01 it's not that complicated to learn about it. Just search for corbusier on YT. The guy was all about wacky aesthetics not serious city planning. He was laughed out of most European and American boardrooms, but India loves the goray.
As for Chandigarh, each block was designed to be self sufficient, no wonder it turned into a hundred pinds with cross city hierarchical elites who are scared of competition and change.
Say what you will about the American car dependency, I reluctantly concede they got the anti commercial zoning right. You can never compete with a business on rents.
Every SEA and Subcontinent city has a mix use zoning and in 10 years the main road becomes a commercial area, the rich get pushed into cross roads, middles and poor have to go across the city to afford a life. Gardens/Parks/grounds become commercially unviable even when supplemented with annual fees, renting, ads and commercial activities.
Such a beautiful city.
Why this was not replicated in all Indian cities 😢
Oh god no. This is horrendous.
Love this city
Village collective* not city
Thank you scroll ❤
Man these people are obsessed with trees.
There are so many things needed for a good city, garbage disposal, public transportation, good sidewalks so people can walk around, bike lanes so people can bike short distances and so many more things.
Cities evolve with time, you can’t complain about increasing population because it is your failure to tackle it properly.
Also you can’t manage traffic, you can only reduce it by giving people other options.
Totally agree! They think trees only can solve the pollution problem. In developed countries, you will not see as many trees planted in the cities as in Chandigarh and Delhi. Yet they are not so polluted. The pollution comes from multiple sources. They don't work to fix the root of the problem. But they think only trees can solve the pollution.
You saw in this very video they have more bike lanes than anywhere else in India.
Plant 🪴 more aloe Vera on the road sides and the circles
Share this to save the city beautiful
It is very sad ::: they are very old tress
Actually the title and content of this video illustrates a very important thing..."good luck is wasted on the lucky". Seriously..do the people of the most beautiful city in the country actually think that something "ails" their city?
What a beautiful and green city, I am from Islamabad 🇵🇰 Pakistan and Chandigarh looks so familiar, green but facing similar issues as urbanisation expands. We love our trees and green belts in Islamabad and do not want high rises so we can view the mountains around us. Wishing Chandigarh all the best and the residents a great sustainable future 🙏🏼🤲🏻❤
Here is drone shot of Islamabad, its very similar to Chandigarh ua-cam.com/users/live3yI-yRaz8EA?si=Ax5i_kBgcvhxCd9x
I am doing a uni project about Chandigarh and Islamabad. I would love to talk to you about your city!
Omg ! How can they cut trees to make a fly over. That’s crazy .
OMG How did Corbusier cut trees down in the first place to build Chandigarh?! So shocking!!
Dear fellow citizens, please be responsible. This city is beautiful. Maintain the greenery 🌲🌳🌴🎄
There's a misspelling in the title, it's Le Corbusier not Courbusier
What can you expect? It’s scroll bruh
Why accord him so much respect?
why? What wrong has he done? Design a beautiful city?@@rutvikrs
@@boomerang0101 Chandigarh isn't a beautiful city by any measure. Planned and even, yes. That isn't beautiful.
As for corbusier, he is universally detested by the American vs European, classicists and neomodern design for exactly the kind of trdesign both Chandigarh and Brasialia have. You can look up several videos here on YT itself.
@@rutvikrs lol so just bcz Americans and europeans detest him you do too? Get over your “seeking validation from gora chamdi” mindset.
Want to visit Chandigarh now
You’re welcome.
Proud ❤
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When citizens of other Indian cities look at Chandigarh, it looks like heaven! Obviously even citizens of heaven will have things to complain :)
It doesn't really. It's a boring, gaudy & soulless city, without any cultural DNA whatsoever.
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We need more people like sarin sir.
Clearly you don't know the guy! If he was as naive as you, he wouldn't be rolling in money.
Another ailing point to be added - garbage spread almost everywhere!
Chandigarh was made in 1960 after destroying villages of Punjab (Puadh Area) (Most won't even know what Puadh area is). The city was made entirely out of tax money of people of Punjab and Haryana and no compensation was given to the people who became homeless and landless. The city was named after some temple named nearby of a Hindu goddess named chandi. Many local sources say a gurdwara named "Paua Sahib" was destroyed and a mandir was made there after 1947. Slowly, it was grabbed by Centre and made Union Territory by Indira gandhi.
If you would have heard Puadhi, than you would know it is a creole language of Haryanvi and Punjabi. Many of the Puadhis identify as Haryanvi and many as Punjabi. Also, majority of the villages were that of Puadhi Jatts, who converted to Sikhism only in the late 1800s and early 1900s; as per the 1901 census , the majority of Jatts of this area, which was part of Kharar tehsil were Hindu, but by 1931 they became Sikh majority and started identifying as Punjabis. The main gotra of this area was Baidwan, and Hindu Baidwans in neighbouring villages in Panchkula and Ambala call themselves Haryanvi while Sikh Baidwan call themselves Punjabi. This is the reason Chandigarh should belong to both states because its people were always in between.
Propaganda wale bhaishab rukjao
Koi gurudwara nhi toota
@@Playerone1287 How can you be sure? Are you indigenous punjabi? You're speaking hindi
@@technophiliac2282 because i am a haryanvi
@@Playerone1287 Haryana came out of Punjab.
Degradation of ecosystem is similar in most cities. We hardly care about recycling, eco restoration program, afforestation program.
17:53 That is not Chandigarh
"the traffic coming to the tribune chowk is 90% outsider traffic" 7:33 so we don't care about the rest of the citizens other than our own. These same chandigarh people will then cry about that when they visit other cities "yaha pe flyover kyu ni hai, kitna rush hai yahan" hypocrites
Are bhai itna hi nhi,
This chandigarh people live in their 5000 square feet singal family houses Kothi banglas.. And talking about environment and trees.. Pehle khud 500sq.ft ke gharo me raho aur remaining plot me ped lagao..
Chandigarh people are worst level selfish people present in india.. Matlab khud 5k square feet gharo me reh rahe hai, high rise buildings ko apposed kar rahe hai. Aur iski wajah se udhar city panchkula, mohali side se Spread hogi wo chalega, uss city expansion me trees katenge chalega, lekin chandigarh me high rise buildings nhi banne denge.. Lekin apna confort, greenary which appease us, wo nhi jaane denge..
This lady in video apposed for 1.5km flyover just to save 4-5 trees. And suggest alternate ki chandigarh ke bahar se ringroad bypass bana lo, jo nhi nhi tab bhi 10km ka banega.. Tab uss bypass road ko bana ne me ped nhi katenge.. Are bhai jyada ped katenge.. But we are selfish na, bahar kitne ped kade, jo ped hume surve kar raha he wo nhi jaane chahiye.. Waah
We are following the same neoliberal economics that has rocked the bus station in more developed countries both ecological and social. Shopkeepers don't want trees because they want their shops to be seen car owners don't want trees because they want parking or leaves and birds dropping on their cars they're literally killing ourselves under future with this system but we can't seem to stop it because we are still blinded
Phones and UA-cam are Neo liberal
Please save trees. Only trees can save our existence on earth.
How come this government lady lies so well? You are showing the reality!
4:10 thats ludhiana not Chandigarh
Please treat cycles as one of the means of transportation.
😂 dude are you for real?
Wow you have incredibly beautiful treas! Hang on to them :) 💗... and keep investing in bike infrastructure its worth it 10 fold.
No one in Chandigarh uses or will ever use the bike infrastructure. Chandigarhites would not be seen dead using those bikes! This is a stupid show off Punjabi city where having a car for your dog is de rigueur. Cycle lanes in Chandigarh are used by the servants & manual labourers, not by anyone else.
@@MaTara01That's sad - maybe it just needs more investment.
@@MaTara01Correct!
I am interested to visit this city. I wonder if it has clean environment and better air quality than many other cities
Yes, despite being so much traffic now, its still clean with so much greenery and much much better air quality. Even water tastes good than what you get in Punjab and Delhi.
Arguments against development are going to fail when whole country is going forward. Democracy means you cannot view our fellow citizens from satellite towns or anywhere in India as "outsiders".
At this juncture it's important to ask how mass rapid transport system for the city got delayed and who are to blame for that. Great number of people commute to Chandigarh daily. Inflow of traffic is only going to increase. Conventional fixes to the traffic problem will lead to felling of trees. Mass rapid transport system, had it not been thwarted 6 years ago, could've presented an alternative.
Agree with you totally. Ultra rich elites of Chandigarh think that it's their personal "jaagir" and no one points out the glaring mistakes that Corbusier made. What needs to happen really is flyovers & rapid transport metro systems need to be built asap or shift the capital of Punjab to Mohali & the capital of Haryana to Panchkula - both will be fought tooth & nail, so I am not holding my breath. Given that Chandigarh is a base for the army & the airforce, it's a sitting duck in case the balloon goes up. No bunkers anywhere, just big kothis full of junk & junkies!
Chandigarh today is congested, noisy , full with people and labourers , beggers, traffic jams, 😮😮...
City is destroyed
Cannot agree more! Sad but true!
it hurts to know 700 trees might be cut for a flyover, all our govts should think of smart alternates rather than brute force easiest ways
Please cry for the 1000s of trees, 100s of years old, which were cut down by Corbusier & Chandigarh city planners to make the city in the first place.
No town in Bihar will never be developed like chandigarh 😢😢
One of the most corrupt and inept bureaucracy reigns supreme in Chandigarh ... Very poor quality cycles have been procured, and the street lights and lights on cycle tracks rarely work, and the quality of wires and fixtures are of poor standard while it appears senior officials pocket the kickbacks from contractors ... Every part of the city, main roads, swrvice roads, markets, etc are littered with garbage and public toilets are poorly designed and constructed with sub-standard materials and worse is their day to day maintenence... Sad commentary on our civil service in the most well planned city of the country ... Imagine, how terrible are other parts of urban India ... Mera Bharat Mahaan, particularly in Ram Rajya of a 1000 years🙏🏻
Kirom Kher is the reason for such a maniac, land grabber and corrupt to the core
It's true, I live here, and I'm always amazed by the definition of "beautiful." I’m not sure from which angle it’s considered the city beautiful!
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2:08 disgusting modern architecture from Corbusier
At the beginning I was in awe of activists and as video progressed I understood the propaganda..
😂😂😂 so Chandigarh is not the first planned city but a religious scripture where no development project can happen if it doesn't go with initial design....
The activists are behaving like some religious fanatics and using ecology just as cover....
And the courts are just behaving like judicial activists...
These decisions are unsustainable legally.
No law can prevent development if it doesn't violates saftey or environmental law..
A master plan for certain style of buildings can't be held as argument.😂😂😂
Unless the vehicular traffic is not regulated in Chandigarh, the city will die in due course of time. Corbusiers master plan was flawed to start with. How did he not factor in the population growth? Corbusiers master plan is not the holy scripture that it cannot be altered. Other cities in Latin America which Corbusier designed changed infrastructure according to need. If a flyover can decongest a part of the city it should be welcomed. All the elite shown in this video have no idea about the discomfort commuters face. Trees are not the end all of a city there are other facets. Chandigarhs green cover has increased in past 10 years so what's this obsession with trees?
Compensatory forestation should be minimum 3x of the deforestation and each and every trees growth and development should be trackable.
Why not 17x?
If this city would have been allowed to be a Capital city of Punjab, things could have been better.
People driving through should be charged a substantial toll payment. This will reduce influx of people passing through but not living in Chandigarh. This toll can help reduce traffic and help build roads on the outskirts.
You don't know the farmers here, do you? You think they'll pay the toll? They shut down the toll plaza on the national highway during their ongoing Dilli Chalo march for days, giving a free run to all vehicles, vandalised public property, hurt police personnel by pelting stones for their unreasonable demands that 85% of other Indian farmers do not support - ultimately all this is paid by the Indian taxpayers - the poorest of them are paying for the unlawful behaviour of these landed farmers, while the administration looks the other way! You think such things are allowed to happen in the West?
@@MaTara01 I believe there are illegal and corrupt entities encouraging such behaviour of the 15% bad elements of society. You are right about this.
Or you can hand them free bicycles
All of this is fine punjab was awlays modern an progressive in their thinking if i can be their first girl child😊 still child😊 pilot till CPL so many of my papers are lost in transitions neverthless all of this need to be formed with new social welfare support systems and seeing that almost all social civil responsibilities along witmunicipal civic systems are given to people
Ludhiana has one of the best agricultural University in entire asia.
I’m still trying to make sense of your comment and its relevance from the last 6 months. This is in addition to your other comment on this video. Wish me luck 🙏
700 trees for a 1.5 km flyover is a tragedy!!!!
what is this going on in the CIty Beautiful?!
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The bikes are not working any more
Stop cutting trees in Chandigarh, we don't want more concrete in the city.
Flyovers are a curse to greenery and city life.
Likhma Ram ji...aaap bhi dev hain dharti par.
Most dead and lifeless city
It's Le Corbusier. You should at least have looked up the spelling of the name before publishing your video.
Wahe Corbusier da Chandigarh.
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Beautiful City Of Punjab State ❤
Why couldn't an Indian design the city ????
City sleeping since 1960
If that lady had to travel everyday via tribune chowk she would be cutting those trees herself.
Why don't you focus on the issue? Vehicles that are merely transiting the city.
@@thewhatorwhy The point of a city is urbanisation and pulling people out of poverty. A car is far more safe than public transport and 2-wheelers. I am all in for people willing to walk to work and what not. But in actuality, people want all the amenities of a city without accepting what it takes to make it run like a city.
Small towns exist go there if u want a slow life. The point of a city is something diff all together.
I don't believe there is absolutely NOTHING that can be done to manage traffic WHILE preserving the trees.
Tbh this was inevitable. Chandigarh is terribly car dependant because of the way it's planned. Ckar create traffic
Oh pani wali bus sukhe di. A😂
The satellite cities are growing because Chandigarh administration is sleeping and is not able to harness the growth in Chandigarh itself.
17:20 I thought Corbusier was architect, but no seems like he is Prophet of any symmetric religion where you cant change word of prophet if its written on paper 😄
Whats wrong if we change in his original planning.. Does your Corbusier know in 20th century what will happen in 21st century? No, right!
People habbits change, purchasing power change, working style change, does corbusier know there will be co-working places kind of thing emerge in 21th centuries, so we can't build it?
So how and why people in 21th centuries act like he know everything back then and made plan for eternity 😄..
Why indian not understand Cities are constant changing process, and emerge as new things come out.. Old get destroyed, old policy get dump.. And new policies, new buildings once come out.. Go and do google - New York, London, tokyo, Singapore, mumbai then vs now" and then you understand what I'm talking about.. This all cities are not build in one go,(like people of Chandigarh think it was build in one go) todays New York is 300years process. Todays Singapore is 60years process. Todays Mumbai is 150 years process..
But Chandigarh want to stuck with time, as it was planned in 1960. And this why todays Chandigarh can't become metro city like pune, Bangalore, Chennai, Hyderabad, gurugram.. There no job opportunities for youngsters present in Chandigarh, Chandigarh keep gates shut for poor rural migrants, no multiculturalism present there because of Chandigarh "Gated community" approch planning.. And so many more flaws..
Chandigarh is one of the worst planning city, period.. Its so worst planned, that it not even count in categories of "City". But it just "Extended residential area" and thats it..
Chandigarh is Chandigarh because it is Chandigarh. Simple answer. Period.
@@gurdeepsingh2837 shit is shit because it is shit period..