5:27 I remember being overwhelmed when seeing a close up render of Elaine and Guybrush for the the first time, didn't expect it at all! They looked awesome on my A500 and color screen!
@@andylot probably, I remmber in monkey island 1 there was a forest that you get lost in and you can find a hole that you can dig and there's a t shirt there that says that
I KNEW IT. For over a decade I've suspected that Pirates of the Caribbean was inspired by Monkey Island. George Lucas and Disney's symbiosis are undeniable at this point. So much of the humor and animation style of Guybrush in 1997's Curse of Monkey Island is ridiculously similar to 1992's Disney character, Aladdin. So happy to see this confirmed. But wait! There's more! The writer who wrote Aladdin also wrote POTC!
I dont see that. Obviously pretty much all animation anywhere will be inspired by Disney but... also the writers link is a little tenous, what would that have to do with the animation style? The writers definitely had played or knew about MI though, I bet theyll be super open about it when enough time has passed. In fact I thought they would be after Disney got the licence, but on second thought maybe thats not how it works
The death in Le Chucks Revenge is not real. It actually orrurs inside of a framed story. Much of the game happens as Gubrush tells it to Elaine while hanging on the rope after the big explosion. So if you die there the game just goes back to this scene. Guybrush then admits to having exaggerated and the torture scene starts over.
Monkey Island is Life!....Excellent video my favourite of yours so far! I grew up playing these games on an old pc with windows 95!.... I played these versions and the newer updated versions!... both brilliant
Amd the classics didn't end there. We got Fallout, Age of Empires, Dungeon Keeper, Goldeneye, Tomb Raider 2, Ultima Online, Gran Turismo, Carmageddon, XWing vs TIE Fighter, Quake 2, Castlevania: Symphony of the Night, StarFox 64, Blade Runner, & Grand Theft Auto. 1997 was a great year for gaming on consoles and PCs. Now look at how incredibly different these games were. Since then entire genres like adventure games, space combat sims, RTS games have all kind of died down.
There was a script for a Monkey Island movie. When Disney bought Lucasarts, they got the script as well, and decided to use it to make a movie about the Pirates in the Caribbean theme park ride, the script is basically unchanged. They just changed names for people and locations, and the name of the movie. That's why every charatcer in the first movie seems to be a parallel from characters in Secret of Monkey Island, and why the pirates have a pet monkey, and why in the first movie during the sword fights characters would pause, say some insult and then give a comeback, because those swordfights were based on the game.
+rigbyrib100 For sure! If they made it in the style of the special edition remakes of the first two, that'd be fantastic. We can only live in hope that one day Disney let Ron Gilbert make another.
I absolutely loved this game and soundtrack so in memory I just cast the idol of many hands in solid aluminium a few days ago on my channel , that and a heap of Melee coins 👍🏻😁
Seeing monkeys island for the first time as a kid blew my mind too, id never seen anything like it, the colors and music were amazing, unfortunately i was too young to grasp how to play the game, so i just walked around looking at things and talking to people, and it was a blast.
The only one I didn’t know was that Lucas actually had a hand in the creation of this game. I thought he was hands off for this one. Thanks for the info
About fact 2: In the beginning while the game was being designed, there was supposed to be a choice between playing as a girl or a guy as the main character. This idea was later dropped but was the reason the file got saved as 'guy'brush.
@@onaretrotip Ha! Yes, I'd just watched that before I came across this video and made the above comment. I didn't realize that 'making of' video was yours as well. And yes, that's where I got that additional fact from. Great video :)
God the nostalgia of this video… love it. The music, the comedy, Murray the demonic skull… I’ve been thinking of getting a huge tattoo, Threepwood, LeChuck, Murray, Elaine, some monkeys and palm trees… epic.
This game is just a nostalgia overload for me. You should check out my recent documentary on the making of the game, featuring some developer interviews: ua-cam.com/video/xgqEneDNQto/v-deo.html
There was an article on Cracked (not the most reliable of internet sources, I know) that mentioned that the PotC movies are so similar, because it probably WAS a Secret of Monkey Island movie script at one point, but it was cancelled, so the writer Ted Eliot went on to write the Pirates script a few years later, most likely using the first one as a foundation. Kind of a shame, and it can't really be made anymore, since everyone is going to think it's a Pirates rip-off, despite being the "older brother of the two" but other times I'm glad: Monkey Island probably wouldn't translate well to film anyway, and lose much of its charm and humor on the way, or transform into a mindless slapstick comedy in the hands of a bad director. So they are better off as awesome games. (Expect 4 & 5)
+Cubic's Rube Wow, that's interesting! I agree with you though, they probably wouldn't translate well to films. Better to leave those first two games as (in my eyes) perfect memories. It would never capture the humour well enough. Thanks for the info!
Holy crap I never thought of a parallel between Monkey Island and Pirates of the Carribean. it is clearly there! maybe Dinsey should give us a Monkey Island game since they now own Lucas.
+2-bit Jesus I know right, the similarities are crazy obvious once it's pointed out. I'd love to see a new game, if they let Ron Gilbert use the IP to do a true third game that'd be epic!
As I remember, if you wait long enough in Lechuck's torture chamber you won't die, as in the game we are telling Elaine what happened. If you wait long enough Elaine will ask "did you die" (something similar), and you will return to the torture chamber scene...I think
Great facts, learned some new things. Here's one: In Curse of Monkey Island you can at one point enter the first game although it's very brief it's a very funny moment. Also the 'secret' of Monkey Island is actually explained in the fourth game although it's pretty lame.
I was very lucky to have had a neighbour who was a fan of Monkey Island. He introduced me to the games and I haven’t looked back. I really want to pass the experience on to someone.
I still remember my dad buying me Monkey Island 2 for the PC when it was new and I initially wasn't a fan (i think i complained at the time). . . . but it grew on me and since then I became a fan (of the first 3 games of the franchise). The shop it was bought from used to have hundreds of computer games but now it sells computer products only, i watched that shop gradually reduce its computer games till zero over the years. I bought the secret of monkey island with my own pocket money about a year or 2 after owning monkey 2. For years I kept the boxes of the first 3 monkey island games but unfortunately i think they got lost or binned by early 2000s. luckily there all available from steam.
Ah, great memories. Shame they were binned. Not sure what happened to my originals, but I have since bought the big box Amiga versions of the first two.
At some point I threw out the boxes to keep the disks in a disk box and the manuals on a bookshelf, which I somewhat regret but I still have my 30 year old disks and I assume they still work though I tend to use emulators these days rather than fire up the old A600.
you can also "kind of" die in the original Monkey Island if you fall off that cliff with the boulder and the catapult thingy, you know, where you can use it to do that to the thingy and to those guys
Indeed! I have the remasters on PS3, Steam, and iOS, and they're excellent! I really enjoyed the Telltale series; I thought they did a great job on that.
You mention in tip number 3 that the disk dialogues were removed in "subsequent releases of the game", but they were still present in the "Monkey Island Special edition bundle". That shit drove me nuts! I realised that they were supposed to be jokes several years later.
3:40 There never was permadeath (which is a roguelike-specific concept) in adventure games, just death. Permadeath means that you have one life per created character and can never reload to an earlier point.
Great vid. Would love to see Ron Gilbert return & give us the sequel he was planning (even though he's likely just teasing, and would leave us with a teaser ending anyway lol)
That it would. Just playing Tales Of Monkey Island now and.....it's just not that good. It's definitely missing a bit of magic & cleverness. Keep up the good work!
Huzzah! Thanks Julian (just watched your last video). Are you still making vids? The Monkey Island games are very close to my heart, and yeah, I still nick the jokes too hahaha!
Im sure the tree stump appears as an easter egg on the Curse of Monkey Island, when Guybrushes head pops out of it when he looks into a crack in this crypt
@onaretrotrip i guess you didn't know that LucasFilm had started working on a Monkey Island movie adaption and had artwork and a script. But because it was shutdown, the screenwriter for Monkey Island: Ted Elliot, decided to take that script to Disney to have it made (with a few changes) into Pirates of the Caribbean. That is why there are so many similarities in Pirates to Monkey Island -- because Ted had already scripted/knew about all of these Monkey Island classic scenes and thought they were cool. He loved those games.
I actually didn't know that until I made this video and someone told me in the comments. Really interesting. So Monkey Island was loosely based on the Pirates of the Caribbean, then the new POTC was loosely based on Monkey Island. A weird circle of influence. Interesting! Thanks.
Not sure a game has ever been described like this before, specially a pirates game, but I've always found Monkey Island games to be 'cosy' lol. Just the whole look of the games, the music etc. The gaming equivalent of sitting in a big leather chair in front of a log fire whilst smoking a cigar and reading a good book. My current laptop can't handle games, and I don't have a games console, wish I did I'd be buying these again.
One thing I liked about the Lucasfilm games was that they didn't have that very annoying Sierra gameplay where you would die on every screen just by accidentally clicking the wrong pixel, or make a mistake at the beginning of the game and then unknowingly continue playing a game that couldn't be won. Monkey Island was idiot-proof in that sense, and that was kinda satisfying to know.
Brilliant vid Pete! Makes me want to play them again....like....right now! The comedy in Monkey Island is amazing! The characters, the story and the music. I need to get myself a copy of the soundtrack if they have it released. I knew a few of your facts as I've read up on Monkey Island a fair bit however didn't realise how many similarities there just was with Pirates of the Caribbean. Seems like they took a lot from MI. So wish Ron Gilbert would make another! Disney....grrrrr
Matropolis Thanks Mat! Making it made me want to play them too, ha-ha! Yeah, the comedy and music are amazing, and so many memorable characters. I didn't realise the similarities with POTC either until I started researching this, quite surprising. If they let Ron Gilbert make a true third game I'd be over the moon!
"Contrary to popular belief however, the original source sprite was not named "guy.brush" as the file extension used was ".bbm" and not ".brush". The file was in fact named "guybrush.bbm", the "brush" portion of the file name being included by the artist behind the character, Steve Purcell." (source: .wiki30) Also if you have ever used Deluxe Paint on Amiga, you would know it only brushes (sprites) with that extensions and not pict(ures) like you seem to show on your video. Although it doesn't take away the thing that name derived from it being a "brush" of a "guy". I just like to be anal about nitpicking.
onaretrotip Steve Purcell designed most of the visual design the package cover. Also he was involved in the design of MI3 And Tales. So calling Ron the creator is the same as calling Lucas the creator of SW. Of course they where but what would the games be without Ralph McQuarrie and Steve Purcell. Also this should put a litttle silencer who has complied about the art style post MI2. “It was nots Ron’s vision etc” well most of the visual stuff was actually not Rona vision but Purcell. That again was involved in most of the other MI titles. I mean it was a combo of Purcell, Gilbert and Grossman really. With Gilbert acting as the director.
Yeah only reason the ending brush was choosen was because well... he was saved as a brush which was what I was called in DPaint (brushes and sprites had nothing in common).
Thanks! I was looking for this comment! In addition: File extensions used to be limited to three chracters as in ".exe", ".bat", ".txt", ".bmp" and - in this case - ".bbm". So ".brush" could not work at all.
TIL Deluxe Paint was made on Amiga and the ported to MS-DOS. (To me it seemed odd that Guybrush could have been named after a DPaint-brush when the first version of the game was non-Amiga 16-color EGA).
2:24 ... Ron Gilbert never had the chance to finish the trilogy, to reveal the Secret of Monkey Island. *UNTIL NOW?!!* Monkey Island "3" coming in 2022!
Great news! If you're interested, you should also check out my Making of Monkey Island documentary (ft. interviews with Ron and Dave): ua-cam.com/video/xgqEneDNQto/v-deo.html
I am very annoyed by the fact that Guybrush and Elaine are drawn like real humans in the first game while they look like cartoon characters from the third game onwards. The graphic style of game nr. 1 is still my most favorite because it shows enough to encourage your fantasy without beeing too detailed.
Interviews subsequent to the making of this video reveal that Orson Scott Card really didn't contribute much to the dueling insults. Some of his contributions may have been the seeds for some of the jokes, but he wasn't even given enough guidance (such as the insults had to be double entendres where insults and comebacks had to fit together in multiple ways). Enders Game was released a few years before Monkey Island development began, and Card won multiple prestigious Sci-Fi awards . So they came up with a way of attaching his name to the project for publicity purposes. Card never even played Monkey Island, doesn't remember the insults he submitted, and doesn't know how much of them made it into the game.
Actually it is impossible for GuyBrush to die in Revenge. If he gets dropped in the acid, the game goes back to Elaine and Guybrush and it goes back to the acid pit again until he gets it right.
Another strange thing is that we never knew how guybrush arrives on Melêe island when he gets on the elevator in the final sequence of monkey island 2. I never saw anyone explain it.
I always thought that the secret of monkey island was having hell right under it. You know, the lava pit. It is where Lechuck hides, you enter the zone by a monkey head, it is the last new location you can find in the game before the end, and it was... well, the only secret of the island.
I heard, I don't remember where, that they originally were working on a Monkey Island movie, but It didn't go through, thus they adapted the script into what later became Pirates of the Caribbean.
Thank you! I was bitter due to a bunch of bad videos tonight but this one was GREAT! I loved Money Island! My absolute favorite game I played as a kid!
The fact that MI resembles PitC so much is the exact reason why Disney will never release MI IP. Especially since PitC franchise is (for some unexplainable reason) still alive and kicking. Disney may decide at some point in time that kicking yet another dead horse is in order, so we may yet see another Monkey Island in some form... but I seriously doubt it will be Ron's Gilbert Monkey Island 3a we all want, even if Disney decides to get him on board. Because the only people actually interested in this MI3a will at that point be at least 40-50 years old, and I just don't see Disney even considering them as lucrative target audience.. not when you could simply revamp the concept into something silly and shallow the new generation of tweens would lap up.
Apparently it's true that the writer of the first two Pirates of the Caribbean movies borrowed elements from Money Island. They talk about it in this article about the abandoned MI movie monkeyisland.wikia.com/wiki/The_Curse_of_Monkey_Island_Movie
I still play Monkey One and Two about once every year. Basically every other point and click adventure I played after these two was low key disappointing since Monkey Island is simply so good (and funny)
Hahaha! Disc 22! I forced my dad to go through all his discs and to find it. Thought until now it was just me who didn't get the joke because I was so young
Fantastic vid Pete really enjoyed it. Well put together must've been a lot of work. These games mean a lot to me as well. I didn't know that about deluxe paint and where guyrbrush got his name. Yeah love monkey island. I appeared on novabugs quiz retro mastermindless and chose monkey island as my specialist subject. Got 14/15 right. Let down by forgetting wally's surname.
Cheers John, was hoping you'd like it being a fellow Monkey Island fan. Ha-ha, I'll check that Mastermindless episode out, I have no idea what Wally's surname is to be fair. Is it even mentioned in-game?
I'm pretty sure the Ron' real final of Monkey Island is the game "Thimbleweed Park" he made later,,, of corse, he can't use the characters and the name, but the story looks like a possible story for Monkey Island 3
Since the author can't release the third actual installment with the real secret, maybe he should release a point-and-click game called "Secretion of the Ape Aisleland" where every now and then a character would ask the protagonist "Wait, aren't you G..." to which he would reply an emphatic "NO!", look at the camera and wink. The protagonist goes to the lost Ape Island inhabitted by Cannonballs where a labyrinth known as Ape Aisland guards the secret that is*not* the secret of Monkey Island (wink, wink).
Great video, something new and different from you. Looking forward to what else you do like this! :) Never tried the monkey island games though I've heard great things from many people. Maybe I should some day.
Thanks Aydan! Seems to have gone done fairly well, so may well do some more stuff along the same lines. Definitely check out the games, really good fun. The Special Edition versions are great, and available on PC/PS3 etc.
Thank you very much! The best way to play the first two is to buy the Special Editions as they include two versions (the originals, and the new ones with updated graphics and voice acting). They're available on Steam, iOS, PS3, and other platforms possibly (I have all of those three). They're awesome. I have no idea about Curse though I'm afraid.
onaretrotip Amiga days...oh wish I could go back to my childhood lol....I need to find the pc version and start playing now...you have got me started haha...I heard a tune on the radio and it sounded like the theme to monkey island and all the memories came flooding back hence how I came across your video...great 10 facts I never even knew about..."look!!!...a 3 headed monkey" haha
Yeah the Amiga days were my fondest as well. I just bought an Amiga 1200 actually with 8MB RAM and 4GB hard drive (it has every Amiga game on). It's so good! Yes, I'm the same, the Monkey Island music brings back so many good feelings every time, I love it. Glad you liked the facts and it stirred up some good memories.
Yes, the first 3 will play under scummvm. Just go to their wesite and download it. The fourth game will work under Residualvm which is made by the same people but has it's own website.
I don´t like the Special Edition versions of Monkey Island. But I really like the free VGA versions (AGD Interactive) of the King´s Quest saga (make sure that you play them on FULL screen ! I played almost all of them on a small screen which was a pain in the ass...).
Pirates of the Caribbean always had a Monkey Island vibe, but it was when they visited the Voodoo lady in the swamp that I actually shouted "Oh come on!" in the cinema, because they had so obviously stolen the idea from the game.
Ron Gilbert doesn't know any secret... it just sounded cool for the title of the game. The closest thing to the "secret" is either the meta parts, which Ron really likes (see Thimbleweed Park). There are plenty of meta jokes in the game, not to mention the ending of M2. The other possibility is the secret hideout of LeChuck on MI. Someone in the SCUMM bar even literally says "Lechuck's secret base is on Monkey Island, everyon knows that".
Yes mate this is awesome!!!.a lot of work gone into the vid and I hope you work on something similar in the near future!! you can clearly see the passion and love you have for these 2 games!..interesting to watch as I've never played these before but having having the chance to own a demo version of Simon the sorcerer on the Amiga cd32 I can see why you loved these games so much!!! Cheers :)
Thanks Luke, that's good to hear mate. I'll definitely work on some more stuff like this now, hopefully I'll get better at it as time goes on. They're cracking games mate, def check them out if you get the chance.
The music alone deserves a place in the Museum of Modern Art.
Sure does.
At one time I could play the scumm bar theme and jojos theme on the piano from memory.
5:27 I remember being overwhelmed when seeing a close up render of Elaine and Guybrush for the the first time, didn't expect it at all! They looked awesome on my A500 and color screen!
Same!
I discovered the secret of monkey island and all I got was this lousy t-shirt.
:)
Lol reference to the game right?
Congratulations. The T-Shirt IS the secret!
@@AmitYoel If I remember correctly it is from the ending of MK II.
@@andylot probably, I remmber in monkey island 1 there was a forest that you get lost in and you can find a hole that you can dig and there's a t shirt there that says that
I KNEW IT. For over a decade I've suspected that Pirates of the Caribbean was inspired by Monkey Island. George Lucas and Disney's symbiosis are undeniable at this point. So much of the humor and animation style of Guybrush in 1997's Curse of Monkey Island is ridiculously similar to 1992's Disney character, Aladdin. So happy to see this confirmed. But wait! There's more! The writer who wrote Aladdin also wrote POTC!
Ooh interesting! Didn't know that.
I dont see that. Obviously pretty much all animation anywhere will be inspired by Disney but... also the writers link is a little tenous, what would that have to do with the animation style?
The writers definitely had played or knew about MI though, I bet theyll be super open about it when enough time has passed. In fact I thought they would be after Disney got the licence, but on second thought maybe thats not how it works
Isn't it the other way around and MI was inspired by the Pirates Of The Caribbean ride?
The death in Le Chucks Revenge is not real. It actually orrurs inside of a framed story. Much of the game happens as Gubrush tells it to Elaine while hanging on the rope after the big explosion. So if you die there the game just goes back to this scene. Guybrush then admits to having exaggerated and the torture scene starts over.
Very good point, Roger!
The self-fulfilling prophecy
I'm selling these fine leather jackets.....
Hahaha.
Ask me about LOOM...
So you want to be a pirate? You look more like a flooring inspector.
I am rubber you are glue.
First you'd better stop waving it around like a feather duster!
Monkey Island is Life!....Excellent video my favourite of yours so far!
I grew up playing these games on an old pc with windows 95!....
I played these versions and the newer updated versions!... both brilliant
1997 was an awesome year for video gaming...Final Fantasy 7...Tekken 3 ...and of course, The Curse of Monkey Island
@Melanie L Curse was fantastic, come on!
Amd the classics didn't end there. We got Fallout, Age of Empires, Dungeon Keeper, Goldeneye, Tomb Raider 2, Ultima Online, Gran Turismo, Carmageddon, XWing vs TIE Fighter, Quake 2, Castlevania: Symphony of the Night, StarFox 64, Blade Runner, & Grand Theft Auto.
1997 was a great year for gaming on consoles and PCs. Now look at how incredibly different these games were. Since then entire genres like adventure games, space combat sims, RTS games have all kind of died down.
@@DamonCzanik That's all crap compared to the games before 97. Especially before the CD ROM.
And one year later.... wizardry 8 came out.
@@tornadoe13 And Half-Life.
There was a script for a Monkey Island movie. When Disney bought Lucasarts, they got the script as well, and decided to use it to make a movie about the Pirates in the Caribbean theme park ride, the script is basically unchanged. They just changed names for people and locations, and the name of the movie. That's why every charatcer in the first movie seems to be a parallel from characters in Secret of Monkey Island, and why the pirates have a pet monkey, and why in the first movie during the sword fights characters would pause, say some insult and then give a comeback, because those swordfights were based on the game.
I'm not sure I've ever watched an entire Pirates of the Caribbean film.
Good god the theme song for this game is so damn good!
Certainly is, Dillon! Still makes me smile every time after all these years.
It is pirate music! Of course it is!
Love these so much, although number 3 is my favourite!! If they make another one I would like it to have this art style
+rigbyrib100 For sure! If they made it in the style of the special edition remakes of the first two, that'd be fantastic. We can only live in hope that one day Disney let Ron Gilbert make another.
+onaretrotip I think he will, look at grim fandango and games like that, if they can make money they will let him make another.
rigbyrib100 Fingers crossed!
I absolutely loved this game and soundtrack so in memory I just cast the idol of many hands in solid aluminium a few days ago on my channel , that and a heap of Melee coins 👍🏻😁
I saw! Awesome.
onaretrotip cool buddy I’m glad you liked it 😁👍🏻🍻🍻
100.000 pieces of eight
As a lifetime Monkey Island fan... thanks for this. Thanks for this wonderful video and all the work you've done
You're very welcome!
Been a Monkey Island fan for >20 years and quite a few of these were new to me. Great research!
Thank you!
Seeing monkeys island for the first time as a kid blew my mind too, id never seen anything like it, the colors and music were amazing, unfortunately i was too young to grasp how to play the game, so i just walked around looking at things and talking to people, and it was a blast.
Yes, it blew my mind too!
5:30 wonderful life advice, Guybrush.
Words to live by!
The only one I didn’t know was that Lucas actually had a hand in the creation of this game. I thought he was hands off for this one. Thanks for the info
itsaguinness Glad you enjoyed it! :)
About fact 2: In the beginning while the game was being designed, there was supposed to be a choice between playing as a girl or a guy as the main character. This idea was later dropped but was the reason the file got saved as 'guy'brush.
Indeed. Have you watched my recent documentary The Making of Monkey Island?
@@onaretrotip Ha! Yes, I'd just watched that before I came across this video and made the above comment. I didn't realize that 'making of' video was yours as well. And yes, that's where I got that additional fact from. Great video :)
@@AmishFan Thank you!
I think more and more of us are going back to the good games from years back. A lot of present games feel more like a job!
"Like a job" - that's such an accurate way of describing a lot of modern games. Such a grind.
God the nostalgia of this video… love it. The music, the comedy, Murray the demonic skull… I’ve been thinking of getting a huge tattoo, Threepwood, LeChuck, Murray, Elaine, some monkeys and palm trees… epic.
This game is just a nostalgia overload for me. You should check out my recent documentary on the making of the game, featuring some developer interviews:
ua-cam.com/video/xgqEneDNQto/v-deo.html
There was an article on Cracked (not the most reliable of internet sources, I know) that mentioned that the PotC movies are so similar, because it probably WAS a Secret of Monkey Island movie script at one point, but it was cancelled, so the writer Ted Eliot went on to write the Pirates script a few years later, most likely using the first one as a foundation.
Kind of a shame, and it can't really be made anymore, since everyone is going to think it's a Pirates rip-off, despite being the "older brother of the two" but other times I'm glad: Monkey Island probably wouldn't translate well to film anyway, and lose much of its charm and humor on the way, or transform into a mindless slapstick comedy in the hands of a bad director.
So they are better off as awesome games. (Expect 4 & 5)
+Cubic's Rube Wow, that's interesting! I agree with you though, they probably wouldn't translate well to films. Better to leave those first two games as (in my eyes) perfect memories. It would never capture the humour well enough. Thanks for the info!
Holy crap I never thought of a parallel between Monkey Island and Pirates of the Carribean. it is clearly there! maybe Dinsey should give us a Monkey Island game since they now own Lucas.
+2-bit Jesus I know right, the similarities are crazy obvious once it's pointed out. I'd love to see a new game, if they let Ron Gilbert use the IP to do a true third game that'd be epic!
It won't happen, since they are working on the PotC franchise. :(
My 4 year old nephew cracked it immediately. I’ve just sent this video to his mum. We were arguing about it this morning!😂
I thought a lot about the first PotC was like MI, but the moment they brought in the Vodoo lady it was totally obvious.
As I remember, if you wait long enough in Lechuck's torture chamber you won't die, as in the game we are telling Elaine what happened. If you wait long enough Elaine will ask "did you die" (something similar), and you will return to the torture chamber scene...I think
Huh, that's interesting! That probably happened to me back in the day actually, as I did get stuck on that bit.
i was stuck there too for a while xD
Great facts, learned some new things. Here's one: In Curse of Monkey Island you can at one point enter the first game although it's very brief it's a very funny moment. Also the 'secret' of Monkey Island is actually explained in the fourth game although it's pretty lame.
Nice! Thanks, glad you learned something new.
I was very lucky to have had a neighbour who was a fan of Monkey Island. He introduced me to the games and I haven’t looked back. I really want to pass the experience on to someone.
That's great! Hopefully you can pass on that joy to someone else.
I still remember my dad buying me Monkey Island 2 for the PC when it was new and I initially wasn't a fan (i think i complained at the time). . . . but it grew on me and since then I became a fan (of the first 3 games of the franchise). The shop it was bought from used to have hundreds of computer games but now it sells computer products only, i watched that shop gradually reduce its computer games till zero over the years. I bought the secret of monkey island with my own pocket money about a year or 2 after owning monkey 2. For years I kept the boxes of the first 3 monkey island games but unfortunately i think they got lost or binned by early 2000s. luckily there all available from steam.
Ah, great memories. Shame they were binned. Not sure what happened to my originals, but I have since bought the big box Amiga versions of the first two.
At some point I threw out the boxes to keep the disks in a disk box and the manuals on a bookshelf, which I somewhat regret but I still have my 30 year old disks and I assume they still work though I tend to use emulators these days rather than fire up the old A600.
you can also "kind of" die in the original Monkey Island if you fall off that cliff with the boulder and the catapult thingy, you know, where you can use it to do that to the thingy and to those guys
Well, you bounce off the rubber tree so you don't die, but yes they did spoof the Sierra death screen. Great joke.
5:22 OMG where can I get that DOTT poster?!
Haha. I love that poster. I got it at an expo, but they sell them on eBay (seller is TheAtticBug).
Thank you!! This makes my whole century!! DOTT defined who I am :))
You're welcome! :)
It had such a huge influence on me too growing up, I completely understand.
These games got a remastered on the Xbox 360, also there is the Telltale Games series of Monkey Island
Indeed! I have the remasters on PS3, Steam, and iOS, and they're excellent! I really enjoyed the Telltale series; I thought they did a great job on that.
You mention in tip number 3 that the disk dialogues were removed in "subsequent releases of the game", but they were still present in the "Monkey Island Special edition bundle". That shit drove me nuts! I realised that they were supposed to be jokes several years later.
Oh yeah? maybe they added it back in for the SE release (which is really well done). Hahaha they got you!
3:40 There never was permadeath (which is a roguelike-specific concept) in adventure games, just death. Permadeath means that you have one life per created character and can never reload to an earlier point.
Just had to watch that bit back to realise I said it. Yeah, you're absolutely right!
Great vid. Would love to see Ron Gilbert return & give us the sequel he was planning (even though he's likely just teasing, and would leave us with a teaser ending anyway lol)
Thanks, Dan! Oh, me too. I know he'd love to do it, as he's said in numerous interviews. That would be a dream come true!
That it would. Just playing Tales Of Monkey Island now and.....it's just not that good. It's definitely missing a bit of magic & cleverness. Keep up the good work!
Your wish is now becoming a reality…
@@Savel29J Indeed! Just seen the trailer the other day. BOOM! :)
Well I have been a fool not subscribing to you before ! You have a new fan !
I also loved the monkey island games - still steal the jokes today !
Huzzah! Thanks Julian (just watched your last video). Are you still making vids? The Monkey Island games are very close to my heart, and yeah, I still nick the jokes too hahaha!
I do make videos - but for other channels.
But my BoxedPixels Website is updated every two weeks with a long rambling essay!
Im sure the tree stump appears as an easter egg on the Curse of Monkey Island, when Guybrushes head pops out of it when he looks into a crack in this crypt
Yes, I seem to remember that too.
HE IS COMPLETING THE TRILOGY!
YES!!!
Great video! :) I also loved Guybrush in Uncharted 4! Epic.
Thank you!
@onaretrotrip i guess you didn't know that LucasFilm had started working on a Monkey Island movie adaption and had artwork and a script. But because it was shutdown, the screenwriter for Monkey Island: Ted Elliot, decided to take that script to Disney to have it made (with a few changes) into Pirates of the Caribbean. That is why there are so many similarities in Pirates to Monkey Island -- because Ted had already scripted/knew about all of these Monkey Island classic scenes and thought they were cool. He loved those games.
I actually didn't know that until I made this video and someone told me in the comments. Really interesting. So Monkey Island was loosely based on the Pirates of the Caribbean, then the new POTC was loosely based on Monkey Island. A weird circle of influence. Interesting! Thanks.
Not sure a game has ever been described like this before, specially a pirates game, but I've always found Monkey Island games to be 'cosy' lol. Just the whole look of the games, the music etc. The gaming equivalent of sitting in a big leather chair in front of a log fire whilst smoking a cigar and reading a good book. My current laptop can't handle games, and I don't have a games console, wish I did I'd be buying these again.
Cosy is a great way to describe them. They're so comforting!
What's your favorite in the series btw? This may have been mentioned in another of your videos but I'm too tired to look lol.
The Secret of Monkey Island just edges it over Monkey Island 2. 2 looks better and is grander in scale, but the first game just feels tighter.
@@onaretrotip I thought it would have been either one or two. I found out today all the games are on Steam which is good news.
@@adamclark8994 Yes, I have them on many platforms haha.
One thing I liked about the Lucasfilm games was that they didn't have that very annoying Sierra gameplay where you would die on every screen just by accidentally clicking the wrong pixel, or make a mistake at the beginning of the game and then unknowingly continue playing a game that couldn't be won.
Monkey Island was idiot-proof in that sense, and that was kinda satisfying to know.
That was what always put me off Sierra's adventures.
Brilliant vid Pete! Makes me want to play them again....like....right now! The comedy in Monkey Island is amazing! The characters, the story and the music. I need to get myself a copy of the soundtrack if they have it released. I knew a few of your facts as I've read up on Monkey Island a fair bit however didn't realise how many similarities there just was with Pirates of the Caribbean. Seems like they took a lot from MI. So wish Ron Gilbert would make another! Disney....grrrrr
Matropolis Thanks Mat! Making it made me want to play them too, ha-ha!
Yeah, the comedy and music are amazing, and so many memorable characters. I didn't realise the similarities with POTC either until I started researching this, quite surprising.
If they let Ron Gilbert make a true third game I'd be over the moon!
That would be the best thing since sliced bread!
wow this fact makes me wonder less why I like 1 and 2 soooo much more than the others...
"Contrary to popular belief however, the original source sprite was not named "guy.brush" as the file extension used was ".bbm" and not ".brush". The file was in fact named "guybrush.bbm", the "brush" portion of the file name being included by the artist behind the character, Steve Purcell." (source: .wiki30) Also if you have ever used Deluxe Paint on Amiga, you would know it only brushes (sprites) with that extensions and not pict(ures) like you seem to show on your video. Although it doesn't take away the thing that name derived from it being a "brush" of a "guy". I just like to be anal about nitpicking.
Yes, I leaned that after making this video. Steve Purcell designed Guybrush? Did not know that!!!
onaretrotip Steve Purcell designed most of the visual design the package cover. Also he was involved in the design of MI3 And Tales. So calling Ron the creator is the same as calling Lucas the creator of SW.
Of course they where but what would the games be without Ralph McQuarrie and Steve Purcell.
Also this should put a litttle silencer who has complied about the art style post MI2. “It was nots Ron’s vision etc” well most of the visual stuff was actually not Rona vision but Purcell. That again was involved in most of the other MI titles.
I mean it was a combo of Purcell, Gilbert and Grossman really. With Gilbert acting as the director.
Yeah only reason the ending brush was choosen was because well... he was saved as a brush which was what I was called in DPaint (brushes and sprites had nothing in common).
Thanks! I was looking for this comment!
In addition: File extensions used to be limited to three chracters as in ".exe", ".bat", ".txt", ".bmp" and - in this case - ".bbm". So ".brush" could not work at all.
TIL Deluxe Paint was made on Amiga and the ported to MS-DOS. (To me it seemed odd that Guybrush could have been named after a DPaint-brush when the first version of the game was non-Amiga 16-color EGA).
2:24 ... Ron Gilbert never had the chance to finish the trilogy, to reveal the Secret of Monkey Island. *UNTIL NOW?!!* Monkey Island "3" coming in 2022!
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this game is the reason why i felt in love with pirate of the caribbean (film serie)
Full circle!
Anyone here after the new 2022 monkey island game by Ron Gilbert has been announced??
Great news! If you're interested, you should also check out my Making of Monkey Island documentary (ft. interviews with Ron and Dave):
ua-cam.com/video/xgqEneDNQto/v-deo.html
@@onaretrotip alright thanks I will do
Ready to "Return to Monkey Island"?
Even Disney couldn't resist Ron Gilbert's powers of persuasion! See you on Melee Island, guys!
See you there! 😃
I am very annoyed by the fact that Guybrush and Elaine are drawn like real humans in the first game while they look like cartoon characters from the third game onwards. The graphic style of game nr. 1 is still my most favorite because it shows enough to encourage your fantasy without beeing too detailed.
Totally agree!
Interviews subsequent to the making of this video reveal that Orson Scott Card really didn't contribute much to the dueling insults. Some of his contributions may have been the seeds for some of the jokes, but he wasn't even given enough guidance (such as the insults had to be double entendres where insults and comebacks had to fit together in multiple ways). Enders Game was released a few years before Monkey Island development began, and Card won multiple prestigious Sci-Fi awards . So they came up with a way of attaching his name to the project for publicity purposes. Card never even played Monkey Island, doesn't remember the insults he submitted, and doesn't know how much of them made it into the game.
What's your source for that information?
@@onaretrotip You! Lol. Your interviews with the creators.
@@daneast Thought so LMAO
I had both boxes of MI1 and Mi2 for my old "Girlfriend500" ,glad to see it again, thank You!
"Girlfriend500" 😂😂😂
@@onaretrotip :D ;)
Let’s all remember a time when Lucasfilm Games had a cooler logo than Lucasfilm.
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PotC should have a Monkey Island themed season, just like the Haunted Mansion during Christmas.
Oh man, I'd be all over that!
Actually it is impossible for GuyBrush to die in Revenge. If he gets dropped in the acid, the game goes back to Elaine and Guybrush and it goes back to the acid pit again until he gets it right.
Ah yes, you're absolutely right!
Love this! Thanks for posting it
You're welcome! Really glad you enjoyed it.
Great, a rubber chicken with a pulley in the middle.
What possible use could that have?
Had no idea with his name actually! Liked that!
infectedflinch Thanks Dave!
Really liked the vid man! Subbed and thumbed^^
Cheers :)
Thank you very much, glad you enjoyed it!
Another strange thing is that we never knew how guybrush arrives on Melêe island when he gets on the elevator in the final sequence of monkey island 2. I never saw anyone explain it.
Hmm 🤔
2:25 soon we will be able to play his vision
Well, it will be a different vision than the original idea, but I'm still very excited!
thanks for mentioning Pirates of the caribbean.. I didnt know or forgot abut the pirateship town but knew the rest.. also the aztec coins
You're welcome! Thanks for watching.
I always thought that the secret of monkey island was having hell right under it. You know, the lava pit. It is where Lechuck hides, you enter the zone by a monkey head, it is the last new location you can find in the game before the end, and it was... well, the only secret of the island.
We may never know what the real secret was, sadly.
I heard, I don't remember where, that they originally were working on a Monkey Island movie, but It didn't go through, thus they adapted the script into what later became Pirates of the Caribbean.
Yeah, I heard that too. Interesting! I just hope that one day we can see a true third game in the series.
I enjoyed these games back in the day and they are definitely the top classic adventure games!
They certainly are, Jon. Timeless classics.
Excellent video about an iconic game series. GJ.
Thanks you very much! The Monkey Island games are very close to my heart.
Thank you! I was bitter due to a bunch of bad videos tonight but this one was GREAT! I loved Money Island! My absolute favorite game I played as a kid!
Oh, thank you very much, that's very kind! Me too, one of my all-time favourite games, and it means so much to me.
The fact that MI resembles PitC so much is the exact reason why Disney will never release MI IP. Especially since PitC franchise is (for some unexplainable reason) still alive and kicking.
Disney may decide at some point in time that kicking yet another dead horse is in order, so we may yet see another Monkey Island in some form... but I seriously doubt it will be Ron's Gilbert Monkey Island 3a we all want, even if Disney decides to get him on board. Because the only people actually interested in this MI3a will at that point be at least 40-50 years old, and I just don't see Disney even considering them as lucrative target audience.. not when you could simply revamp the concept into something silly and shallow the new generation of tweens would lap up.
Very good points. We can only dream...
Apparently it's true that the writer of the first two Pirates of the Caribbean movies borrowed elements from Money Island. They talk about it in this article about the abandoned MI movie monkeyisland.wikia.com/wiki/The_Curse_of_Monkey_Island_Movie
Oh, wow! That's so interesting, thanks for the link. Would've been nice to include that in the video if I'd known. Thanks a lot, Brian.
2:52 I'm so glad you were wrong :)
Haha, me too.
Love the Monkey Island series (1-3 mainly) consequently I enjoyed your video :)
***** Thanks Tom, glad you enjoyed it!
Well presented and I knew NONE of the fact, so thanks for that.
+Craig Ferguson That's awesome, glad you enjoyed it! Thanks.
I still play Monkey One and Two about once every year. Basically every other point and click adventure I played after these two was low key disappointing since Monkey Island is simply so good (and funny)
Yes, no point & click quite lives up to them. My other favourite that comes close is Day of the Tentacle.
Hahaha! Disc 22! I forced my dad to go through all his discs and to find it. Thought until now it was just me who didn't get the joke because I was so young
Hahaha.
i play the soundtrack of this game while playing sea of thieves lol
Niiice.
Enjoyed this. Many fav memories playing them on the Amiga back in the day!
+Lorfarius Thanks, glad you enjoyed it! Me too, my memories of that era are among my most cherished gaming memories.
Fantastic vid Pete really enjoyed it. Well put together must've been a lot of work. These games mean a lot to me as well. I didn't know that about deluxe paint and where guyrbrush got his name. Yeah love monkey island. I appeared on novabugs quiz retro mastermindless and chose monkey island as my specialist subject. Got 14/15 right. Let down by forgetting wally's surname.
Cheers John, was hoping you'd like it being a fellow Monkey Island fan. Ha-ha, I'll check that Mastermindless episode out, I have no idea what Wally's surname is to be fair. Is it even mentioned in-game?
Yes he did it was Wally B-Feed... I think lol. Something like that anyway.
I'm pretty sure the Ron' real final of Monkey Island is the game "Thimbleweed Park" he made later,,, of corse, he can't use the characters and the name, but the story looks like a possible story for Monkey Island 3
I don't think so. Guybrush would have gone to hell in Ron's third Monkey Island game, and LeChuck would be 'The Demon Pirate LeChuck'.
5:00 that guy’s guards need more trigger discipline 😤
"That guy" 😂
Bit of a nitpick, but if you're talking about PotC1, maybe use the poster/cover art for that film, not a sequel?
Which one did I use?
@@onaretrotip On Stranger Tides.
@@redshirtveteran5688 Ah. Don't think I've ever seen any of them 😂
@@onaretrotip That's fair, I think I've only seen the first three.
Also in Pirates of caribbean there a dog with keys when Jack is in a jail cell.
Nice!
Great video, interesting stuff, and I share your love for those two games on the Amiga, great memories!
RockstarRunner7 Thanks Rob! Great memories indeed, I think the Amiga definitely brings back the best memories for me.
I don't know, given that the games and the POTC films are some of my favourites, how similar they are.
I wouldn't say they're similar, but they definitely influenced each other (the ride, Monkey Island, then the films).
lucasarts logo is an eye if you disregard the body
It is indeed! Check out my Developer Spotlight video on Lucasarts if you're interested, I absolutely love their games.
i will! loved this video and i love their games also, still playing 20 years later :D
BananasArentBlue Me too! Thanks mate.
What about the porcelain
Ugh... porcelain!
Is this Garth Marenghi narrating the video?
Not sure who that is...
Check out Garth Marenghi's Dark Place, you sound like him! It's a good thing
We gamers know Pirate of the Caribbean is the water down version of Monkey Island movie, with characters much less funnier than where it came from.
Indeed!
Since the author can't release the third actual installment with the real secret, maybe he should release a point-and-click game called "Secretion of the Ape Aisleland" where every now and then a character would ask the protagonist "Wait, aren't you G..." to which he would reply an emphatic "NO!", look at the camera and wink. The protagonist goes to the lost Ape Island inhabitted by Cannonballs where a labyrinth known as Ape Aisland guards the secret that is*not* the secret of Monkey Island (wink, wink).
LOL Good idea!
Adding a space theme to mask it and it would become "The Return of the not so secret of Space Ape Planet"
@@andylot Well, shit. There goes the planet.
Maybe Ron Gilbert will someday get the ip and we can finally have Monkey Island 3a and learn the true secret of Monkey Island
God, I hope so.
Great video, something new and different from you. Looking forward to what else you do like this! :) Never tried the monkey island games though I've heard great things from many people. Maybe I should some day.
Thanks Aydan! Seems to have gone done fairly well, so may well do some more stuff along the same lines. Definitely check out the games, really good fun. The Special Edition versions are great, and available on PC/PS3 etc.
love this video!!! is there anyway to play all games in this day and ages...well the classics 1,2 and 3?
Thank you very much! The best way to play the first two is to buy the Special Editions as they include two versions (the originals, and the new ones with updated graphics and voice acting). They're available on Steam, iOS, PS3, and other platforms possibly (I have all of those three). They're awesome. I have no idea about Curse though I'm afraid.
onaretrotip Amiga days...oh wish I could go back to my childhood lol....I need to find the pc version and start playing now...you have got me started haha...I heard a tune on the radio and it sounded like the theme to monkey island and all the memories came flooding back hence how I came across your video...great 10 facts I never even knew about..."look!!!...a 3 headed monkey" haha
Yeah the Amiga days were my fondest as well. I just bought an Amiga 1200 actually with 8MB RAM and 4GB hard drive (it has every Amiga game on). It's so good! Yes, I'm the same, the Monkey Island music brings back so many good feelings every time, I love it. Glad you liked the facts and it stirred up some good memories.
scummVM is the answer :)
Yes, the first 3 will play under scummvm. Just go to their wesite and download it. The fourth game will work under Residualvm which is made by the same people but has it's own website.
I don´t like the Special Edition versions of Monkey Island. But I really like the free VGA versions (AGD Interactive) of the King´s Quest saga (make sure that you play them on FULL screen ! I played almost all of them on a small screen which was a pain in the ass...).
Yes; I do like the Special Editions, but would take VGA every time if given the choice.
My fave point and clicks of all time
Mine too! :)
Pirates of the Caribbean always had a Monkey Island vibe, but it was when they visited the Voodoo lady in the swamp that I actually shouted "Oh come on!" in the cinema, because they had so obviously stolen the idea from the game.
Haha yup.
Ron Gilbert doesn't know any secret... it just sounded cool for the title of the game. The closest thing to the "secret" is either the meta parts, which Ron really likes (see Thimbleweed Park). There are plenty of meta jokes in the game, not to mention the ending of M2. The other possibility is the secret hideout of LeChuck on MI. Someone in the SCUMM bar even literally says "Lechuck's secret base is on Monkey Island, everyon knows that".
The secret is love.
In uncharted 4 you find thath guybrush is part of the pirat form libertalia the paradise of pirat and cand find his corpse
Yeah? wow, I missed that. That's awesome!
@@onaretrotip the director of the game is fan of monkey island
@@gonzaloperez4618 Must be!
WOW! My nostalgic juices are flowing watching this. Learnt some interesting things along the way too :-)
Ha! That's good to hear. Glad you enjoyed it, thank you.
Yes mate this is awesome!!!.a lot of work gone into the vid and I hope you work on something similar in the near future!! you can clearly see the passion and love you have for these 2 games!..interesting to watch as I've never played these before but having having the chance to own a demo version of Simon the sorcerer on the Amiga cd32 I can see why you loved these games so much!!! Cheers :)
Thanks Luke, that's good to hear mate. I'll definitely work on some more stuff like this now, hopefully I'll get better at it as time goes on. They're cracking games mate, def check them out if you get the chance.
I am rubber, you are glue.
Oh yeah? I'm shaking, I'm shaking.
Fact number 4: and yet we have return to MI coming this year so we may see that finally
Hell yes!
I had the same feeling while watching Pirates of the Caribbean!
Daniel Haarti Definitely obvious similarities!
The game is coming back!
So exciting!
I'm so pissed, that we will never learn the TRUE secret of Monkey Island.
Me too mate. Gutted. :(
Salem Saberhagen Perhaps the secret is there's no secret .
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There MUST BE one !!! @@ChainNonSmoker
A giant, mechanical monkey. Apparently.