Malcolm & tymna vs The master multiple vs Dargo Tymna vs Winota cEDH gameplay

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  • Опубліковано 6 лис 2024

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  • @TheTakkatakka
    @TheTakkatakka 11 місяців тому +16

    This is probably the most entertaining and information heavy pod. I really enjoyed Snuskes in-depth analysis this time. :D

    • @cedhtvgameplay3974
      @cedhtvgameplay3974  11 місяців тому +2

      Yeah he has been getting good at winota.

    • @TheTakkatakka
      @TheTakkatakka 11 місяців тому

      @@cedhtvgameplay3974 Snuske on "aggro" is just a wonderful thing. He is way more into detailing his thoughtprocess than in the RokSi games, which I personally find to be more enjoyable.
      I would really love to see him go ham with a Najeela list or some BloodPod variation :D

  • @智也-p7k
    @智也-p7k 11 місяців тому +13

    In the past two months, I have frequently played the Dargo Tymna deck and encountered similar situations several times. I greatly admire Pontus's emotional management

    • @HebrewHercules
      @HebrewHercules 11 місяців тому

      Honestly i think the meta is very bad for dardu right now. Maybe time to shelf it for a little bit bring it back when the meta shifts again

    • @thomasnoonan2039
      @thomasnoonan2039 11 місяців тому +1

      Yeah I also admire Pontus as a player and have learned a lot from watching him. I also feel like, while I still learn "magic" lessons, most of what I've been learning playing this game recently are human lessons.

    • @jamoikamal
      @jamoikamal 11 місяців тому

      Naw Dargo is still really good. Personally i think sidar is a better partner. He doesnt do anything for the deck but the colors are great ​@HebrewHercules

    • @HebrewHercules
      @HebrewHercules 11 місяців тому

      @@jamoikamal green is better than black?

    • @jamoikamal
      @jamoikamal 11 місяців тому

      @HebrewHercules never did I say that. But being able to get a Greater good in to play for free in a dargo deck is better than anything tymna does with dargo

  • @kstandish42
    @kstandish42 11 місяців тому +6

    Snuske did a wonderful job describing the angle at which you have to approach board state evaluation as a Winota player which heavily determines how you play the deck, which I think is in large part, the reason it carries such poor results in a tournament setting. Being fairly linear means newer players pick it up, think they understand it and fail when not being able to assess the gamestate which in turn perpetuates this cycle of thinking Winota is outdated for the current meta. Definitely not the case. Sorry for the long comment, I'm a passionate Winota player and have had the same thoughts Snuske has had and it was very validating to hear it from someone else.

    • @Snuske10006
      @Snuske10006 11 місяців тому +2

      Thank you for the kind words (:
      And i do agree ^^
      Winota is so much harder to pilot well then people think.
      I never recommend the deck to newer players since you need an understanding of the meta and what your opponents decks are bringing to the table to even have a chance to stay on top (:

  • @martinobispo8724
    @martinobispo8724 11 місяців тому +12

    Just change the name of the channel to "bullying Pontus TV" xD

  • @mizzlchieizzl
    @mizzlchieizzl 10 місяців тому +1

    Great winota gameplay : ) So many rough hands in CEDH!

  • @thomasnoonan2039
    @thomasnoonan2039 11 місяців тому +8

    Seeing as how TWO sisays top 4'd mox masters yesterday and you've played it a lot, could we please see a similar list on the channel soon?

    • @cedhtvgameplay3974
      @cedhtvgameplay3974  11 місяців тому +3

      We have scheduled a deck interjuv with the sisay winner. Don't know when I will have it finished edited tho. First we need to sit down and record. But a video about will come on the other channel. Really happy about this btw SISAY!!!

    • @thomasnoonan2039
      @thomasnoonan2039 11 місяців тому +1

      @@cedhtvgameplay3974 that's awesome, thanks! :D

  • @VeilofDeathMTG
    @VeilofDeathMTG 11 місяців тому +5

    I like these new speech bubbles hahaha

  • @TripsAhoy
    @TripsAhoy 11 місяців тому +1

    Nice game. And good to see an older commander still win games!

  • @HebrewHercules
    @HebrewHercules 11 місяців тому

    This game. Pontus, I empathize my guy. We dargo tymna players have it rough these days

  • @BisyBackson365
    @BisyBackson365 11 місяців тому +2

    pregame shout: GET DARGO!!

  • @jamoikamal
    @jamoikamal 11 місяців тому +1

    Oh man, pontus got hosed. I hate that feeling lol

  • @ggangulo
    @ggangulo 11 місяців тому +2

    Rhetoric with all the hate pieces. Great game fellas. Keep up the content. Thanks!

    • @cedhtvgameplay3974
      @cedhtvgameplay3974  11 місяців тому

      I really thought he would win that one. But he didn't get to draw anything from notion thife and that archon really stopped him.

  • @tristownsproductions7472
    @tristownsproductions7472 11 місяців тому

    Maybe should have played the oath in main phase 1! But good try Mons!

  • @sirsiggy748
    @sirsiggy748 11 місяців тому +2

    Feels like the Master would be better in the 99 of prismatic bridge as the only creature with a lot of counter and real extra turns!?

    • @cedhtvgameplay3974
      @cedhtvgameplay3974  11 місяців тому +2

      I could see it in the 99 actually. It feels like a good beatdown creature for cEDH kinda actually.

  • @nebDDa
    @nebDDa 11 місяців тому +7

    Can we have a special episode where everyone lets pontus win

    • @cedhtvgameplay3974
      @cedhtvgameplay3974  11 місяців тому +4

      He really used to win alot before.

    • @sPontus
      @sPontus 11 місяців тому +3

      @@cedhtvgameplay3974 #Washed

    • @Snuske10006
      @Snuske10006 11 місяців тому +2

      not if im there ^^

  • @Deimos32167
    @Deimos32167 10 місяців тому

    21:43 - playing enlighted tutor by Tymna guy - but the Winota guy forgot to draw a card and get 1hp more from the hafling on the table under hes control and enlighted tutor cost 1 grey mana more from that human cleric that slower the nonecreatures spells. Yout oponnents should tell you that there is a trigger on stack but they remain silent ^^ What is a cedh game without fairplay? :)

  • @samc4351
    @samc4351 11 місяців тому +1

    I would really like to hear more from pontus on why he opted for the sacrifice on tymma line, resolving the altar with no Mana as opposed to floating 4 black seems so much worse, is having d swat online really that strong?

    • @cedhtvgameplay3974
      @cedhtvgameplay3974  11 місяців тому +2

      He was planning on drawing 7 cards with that artifact but notion thief happened.

    • @samc4351
      @samc4351 11 місяців тому +1

      @@cedhtvgameplay3974 yes I mean why does he prefer draw 7 with no Mana but having d swat instead of drawing 7 floating 4 black by sacing tymma to dargo and using sacrifice on dargo for more mana. Im learning the deck right now and it seems like a bad move to me so I'd love to hear his thoughts on why he prefers d swat protection to floating 4

    • @cedhtvgameplay3974
      @cedhtvgameplay3974  11 місяців тому

      I don't remeber but I think he coulden't do that for some mana reasons.

    • @TheTakkatakka
      @TheTakkatakka 11 місяців тому +2

      @@samc4351 One of the reasons would probably be the density of fast mana. Tymna+Dargo is very fast. If he can use the Swat to protect Dargo, his next move will be decreased in options but more resilient to potential answers. A fresh grip with almost no downsides compared to trading his entire board to uncertainty and perhaps useless floating mana - pick what you might rather want. My guess would be a setup for later turns as the Oppo hurt his turn 2 wheel plan quite badly. The board was staxed out pretty decently, moving into a slightly longer game.
      Curious to hear Pontus on this though, since he is a longtime pilot of the deck and this instance could pop up more than once.

    • @samc4351
      @samc4351 11 місяців тому

      @@TheTakkatakka that makes sense, I also am playing a rakdos version with tevesh so I am much more all in on my play patterns, thanks for the input!

  • @pokemonidea8871
    @pokemonidea8871 11 місяців тому +1

    I feel like dargo was wrong in attacking the master multiplier, i wouldve force the other two opponents to kill him while sneaking damage with dargo at the winota player, i think people really downplay dargos ability to take players off the board in the grindy games

  • @Matabuff
    @Matabuff 11 місяців тому +4

    Should have played gorilla and signal pest on turn1 then winota on turn2

    • @Snuske10006
      @Snuske10006 11 місяців тому

      it was an option but i guess im still a blue player at heart. gotta have interaction ready (:

  • @LetsgamewithMiguel
    @LetsgamewithMiguel 11 місяців тому

    Why couldn’t he search for a creature when Ranger Captain of Eps entered?

    • @pokemonidea8871
      @pokemonidea8871 11 місяців тому

      Opposition agent controls his search

  • @MasterDecoy1W
    @MasterDecoy1W 11 місяців тому

    Where are you, spite play lookouts? Where is your shrieking in the comments section? An objectively useless block that kills a game-winning piece? The very _definition_ of a spite play? Crickets. Nothing to see here. But risky Hail Mary plays in which the player directly explains to you his strategy, whether based on card probability or psychological manipulation, and you're foaming at the mouth. "Spite play! Spite play! Grab your torch and pitchfork!"
    Is this how the gentry feel about peasants? Because I'm beginning to understand their position.

    • @sPontus
      @sPontus 11 місяців тому +1

      The whole term spite play is just very outdated and mostly used to bully poeple out of making legal plays.
      Killing poeple has to have a cost "I have lethal you can't block" is just absurd logic

    • @MasterDecoy1W
      @MasterDecoy1W 11 місяців тому

      @@sPontus I mostly concur. My anger comes from the commenters who seem to be constantly jumping on anything questionable to call spite.

    • @pokemonidea8871
      @pokemonidea8871 11 місяців тому

      See man I totally agree, like if I can still affect the board I sure as hell am going to. Cedh has interaction why cry about it?

  • @aR0ttenBANANA
    @aR0ttenBANANA 11 місяців тому +1

    Winota's in this? Welp, I know for sure she ain't winning... 🥲 NVM SHE DID!!! SHE FINALLY GOT ONE OF HER 12% wins!