Yamaha P-95 Keyboard/Piano - How to repair rattling/loud keys, sagging keys, and stuck keys
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- Опубліковано 16 вер 2020
- In this video I will talk you through how I repaired some problems on my keyboard including: loud/clattering keys, a sagging key, and some completely stuck keys (stuck in the up position, unplayable.)
I was able to repair all of these problems by taking a look at the mechanism and patiently diagnosing and fixing the problems! Fortunately the problems I had were all mechanical; nothing was compromised in the electronics. I don't understand the 1s and 0s and little metal mazes on silicon. I would like to maybe take a computer science class at a community college or something though someday... See below links to other videos that helped me disassemble and fix the instrument.
The video that got me through most of the disassembly up to the point of repairing the keys:
• Yamaha P95/P85 piano p...
The video that tipped me off about the humidity concerns:
• Yamaha Digital Piano P...
**This keyboard is a Yamaha P-95 Digital piano, from sometime around 2010-ish, give or take a few years (although not positive on the date.) I am not sure if this would apply to other similar models, but I assume some of the techniques could carry over, and of course you can always tinker. Patience and an analytical approach will help you solve just about any repair problem. Oh, those two things and UA-cam! Seriously UA-cam is amazing for figuring out repairs and such. I'm excited to make my first contribution.
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I just wanted to say thanks! I've always wanted to learn piano, and was able to get a P71 relatively cheap but with stuck keys. Because of your video I can start learning!
hey, thank you! I braved the 60 screws it took to get the back open on my P-115; but you were absolutely right about how easy to get the stuck keys fixed. I pulled those back bars and it is all fixed! Thanks again for posting this video.
Great video man! Super helpful!
ThNks for watching this video, i really love this kind of video its very helpful for weighted keys keyboard owner
Hi Will, Thanks, I have the rattling/loud keys problem, I am going to try to solve it. I am going to take a look to your music. Greetings from Costa Rica.
Thank you for the sub, good luck and welcome to my channel!
Thanks for the video , its especially helpful for those having yamaha p series like me. I like to add some more thing from my experience (I have p-35) addition to the reasons of external noise you mentioned. From 05:55, you can see that every white key has a thin channel (or cavity, sorry for my english) front inside of the key. This channel hold a rail (extension, toe whatever) on the front of the keypad board so white key moves straight up and down. A gap that occurred over time between the channel and the rail causes an extra click. Using extra grease on them maybe works at the begining but its temporary . Noise comes back when grease runs aside. Only solution is to change keys or fill the gap with a permanent stuff. I think changing keys will not be a permanent solution because of those are just plastic moving parts and not produced with perfect materials so in a short time the gap would occur again. So I tried to paint the rail with nail polish (7 layers in my case, more layer caused the keys to be tighten , had to use acetone to get thinner ) to get thicker its both sides to fill the gap and this worked at the begining very well for all the keys having problem. But in folowing days, for some keys (not all) noise came back. Im not sure nail polish is a right solution. Or another stuff may be considered as a thicker. Anyways i will try gummed tape next time , when i feel myself less lazy. Maybe Its more safe than using chemicals on the board . And hope works better if it suits for gaps. Better ideas will be welcomed and appreciated. Thanks for reading and be safe.
Thank you for sharing about this. Check out his advice for quieting loud clicking keys by filling the gap between the key cavity and the rail. If others have ideas for materials, please share here.
Remember to put glossy tape over gum tape, so it slides well without much noise.
you are a king!!
Thank you so much for the video. That is very helpful!!
Thank you for watching :)
@@WillEnglandComposer By the way, I was going to ask you. Do you feel like the clunky/rattling keys tend to be looser than normal? Because that's how I feel with my Yamaha P45. I feel like they have lost their weightedness, and thus feel like weightedless plastic key. Veery uncomfortable to play. I wonder if you had that too, or this is another problem?
Looking forward to your response. God bless you ❤️
Hi--I noticed maybe a small degree of that. I think that maybe the p45 has a different mechanism than mine. I think there is something up with the weight mechanism in your keyboard?
Thank you for the video!!
Glad to know I'm not the only one who has taken one of these damn things apart haha. Don't play when angry, I had to fix a black key recently and it was at that point I realized how cheaply these P series are built. The keys being on PLASTIC hingese? One piece plastic pieces? We deserve better from Yamaha.
Again, if you own a P series, never ever ever practice or play when you're already mad. It is not going to work out in your favor.
I saw what you mentioned regarding the vertical plastic hinge. Its so cheesy it's not really a hinge.
Yamaha must have tested for how many strikes the plastic hinge TAB can take before it snaps forcing us to take the 58 screws out and replace. Guess we should not play this Piano all the time.
Midi in a p95 is a necessity for many of us.
Good luck detoxing if purchased used or repairing.
It's really a fantastic design for the money but hopefully we see better design
Thanks... fixed my stuck key
Glad to hear it :)
Nice tutorial man
. I have a video also on my repairs on my Yamaha and roland board..
Nice video. 6:35 ----- disappointing in that those pads can fall off. Maybe back to the drawing board for Yamaha - to have pads that don't fall off. And 8:22 ----- nice fix! The moral of that particular second story - is to not allow the keyboard to fall --- avoid impact. Very helpful video.
Glad to see you enjoy this!
I had 2 clacking black keys right out of the box.
Any tips on if the key gets stuck in the down position? Thanks.
Thank you!
You can use hot glue and put a little blob where that rubber fell off for a quick fix that works just as good.
Hi,
Thank you very much for your video and it was very impressive. I have got a Yamaha PSR-300 keyboard which has damaged silicon rubber sections (carbon tip). Could you please let me know if I could buy this silicon sections? Thanks
I don't have experience with this, sorry
Hi Will!!! Congrats for the video!! How about the sagging key (low D)? I guess you did not show how you solved that problem in the video. How did you fix it?
Guilherme Ruppert Hi Guilherme thank you! For a a key that is sagging, like 1/8 inch or so, there is a small rubber bumper piece underneath the key which has fallen off or moved out of place. It’s a little black piece. You need to find it if it has fallen off inside the keyboard, and put it back on the spot where it goes. At some point in the video I show you this black piece-sorry I don’t know the time stamp now!
5:49 is where I start talking about this piece
Hello, I greased my Yamaha p125 but the noise still persists, what is the reason? How to solve? Thanks🥰
Thank you very much
You’re welcome :)
Alway welcome to help human kind
Thanks
can the speakers of a keyboard be replaced with after market speakers??'
Hey great video! A few of my keys are making a very loud cloinky noise and playing 2 notes (at times) when I play. Have any tips?
From what I have seen I think the two notes at once might be something to do with humidity in the room!
@@WillEnglandComposer Better turn down my central heating then...LOL.. Thanks ever so much Will.
Hello, Will! Can you give me a tip on how to fix a buzzing speaker whenever I max out the volume? It is prominent whenever I hit bass notes.
Hi Czarina, thanks for watching and for your comment. I do not know about that problem for keyboards. All I can say is, usually in my small experience with speakers, buzzing at high volumes means it is blown. I think the speaker(s) either needs to be removed replace. I have also heard of people replacing the foam surrounds of speakers (just the soft material that created the membrane around the middle.) Wish I could be of more help. Good luck!
Make sure you're not putting your phone on top at full volume, because your electric device will emit radio waves and the electrical components and the phone well make it buzz as well
Hi, thanks for the video. My keys make a really annoying click when they come up from being pressed. This is the design, but wondering if there is a way to quiet that clacky clicking that takes away from the joy of playing the piano?!
Hi Kevin thank you for your question. This sounds like it may be a little bit different from the problems I had. My clicking sound was because of a little black plastic/rubber bumper had fallen off underneath the key. I would suggest taking it apart (carefully, and do not lose screws and be careful with ribbon cables) and checking to see if that little black bumper piece is out of position or fallen off. If it is a different problem, you may be on your own, or check out other videos... sorry I don't have a better answer for you! Happy new year.
My keys, all of them, make a terribly loud click when released. I call it kickback sound but not sure what it is. Drives me nuts. Sounds like what you were experiencing. Did you find out how to stop that from happening?
@@bengalrose I think it is related to the hammer immitation mechanism. I'd say it seems like a decent idea to carefully experiment with adding felts if wanted, in order to find out how to quieten the action...
Some chords (1 or 2) sound our loud, on some keys on my Yamaha P 115-not individually but as chord.Any solution or explanation?I live close to the sea in a humid place,and it is winter, now.
It sounds like you already know about some of the effects of humidity on the keyboards. I actually had this problem once and it was when I was living in a dormitory room and keeping the window open. On my keyboard some keys were creating 2 or 3 pitches at once. It was a very annoying problem-I feel your pain! When I looked it up online I figured out from someone on youtube that it’s because of humidity. Seems like it should be better for you now that it is winter... 🤔 I’d recommend trying putting the keyboard in a more dry room and running a dehumidifier maybe. Maybe you could also try putting the keyboard near an air vent in your house-but be careful with extreme temperatures. That’s my advice... good luck!
@@WillEnglandComposer Thank you,sir.
Hi i have a Yamaha p45 and one of the keys is starting to feel a little loose what should i do??
Maybe ---- to avoid making the key condition get worse, somebody needs to open up the keyboard --- and see if they can determine the cause of it, and hopefully fix it.
My MODX8 keyboard is garbage. What happened, Yamaha?!
After disassembling, I can’t disconnect ribbon cables, does someone have any advice?
This is the person who got me up to the point I start at in my video--he goes over the ribbon cables! www.youtube.com/watch?v=X-KUs...
On my piano (Suzuki SD-10 digital upright) my middle C key sometimes is very very loud when pressed, regardless of how soft or loud I play it. I’ve looked online but no one else seems to have the same problem. It makes playing a lot less enjoyable, and I finally got sick of it. any ideas of how to fix it?
Sadly I don’t have expertise other than just taking my keyboard apart that time. So all I can do is speculate. But maybe something is wrong with the place where the key creates an electronic pulse? Sorry I can’t help more 🙁
@@WillEnglandComposer thank you for responding. should I just find a repair person? I don’t want to end up breaking my piano when I try to fix it :(
@@theperson5205 Yes, sounds like that is best!
@@theperson5205 Probably a piece got under the part that presses on the two buttons for timing. I think it presses them at different positions, and measures timing for key velocity, so if a piece got stuck under that part of the plastic key, it might press both buttons simultaneously, making the timing short and the sound loud.
@@fatitankeris6327 we found out that one of the contacts were worn out and was torn a little. We were able to solve the problem by purchasing the closest looking contact strip we could find and replacing it. It only took a lot of time, a lot of puzzles, and um somehow we broke part of the cover when disassembling it. but the important part is we finally fixed it and it’s so nice not to have the c note drive me crazy lol
And at the end of the video when you were pressing the keys there was major loud clicking at the release of every key. That's horrible!!!
If I understand which spot you are talking about, I think that is because of the keyboard being open and thus all of those panels of keys are not secured down as they would normally be, so they are shifting a bit and making noise when pressed. That does not persist when the keyboard is reassembled.
Hi Will,
I also have P-95 model, and some of my keys make scratching sound like this:
ua-cam.com/video/44xH-bNTL2E/v-deo.html
Last week I have opened the piano and added some grease on all plastic holes which works with other parts and can make a friction.
But after a few days that unpleasant sounds have appeared again. Did You have similar sounds as mine in Your P-95?
Greetings from Poland :-)
Hi Inne, I think I may know what that is. So inside the keyboard the black plastic case that the keys fit into has divisions in it that are part of the structure. I think it is around the metal weights that are attached to the back of each key, if I remember right. I think these weights can get out of place and move to the side so that they are rubbing against these divisions. I think that may be what it is-the metal piece of the key rubbing against the black plastic division in the keyboard support structure. When I opened my keyboard, I found I could just move the metal piece back into position pretty easily. But I also think I read online that someone created a little guard piece inside the keyboard to keep a key from drifting its position.
I think it is only some keys that have the risk of this problem because there are not very many of those divisions.
Hope this helps-I think this may be the culprit but I’m not certain. Thanks for watching and your comment. Dziękuję 🎄 🎹
@@WillEnglandComposer Thank You, Will. I'll check it soon.
@@WillEnglandComposer Hello Will. I've managed with theese scratching sounds. Some vertical black guiding-rails had irregular surface, so when I've polished it with sandpaper - these sounds almost gone away:
ua-cam.com/video/uCzVtuILH7o/v-deo.html
@@inne1163 That is great, and I didn’t know about that solution. Congrats 🙂