The only difference real difference mechanically speaking over there 500$ option, will be there burrs (depending on when it's produced). You can buy different burrs like the ones for finer grinding for about 30$ I just bought one. Worst case scenario I install different burrs. At 230$ (after potentially changing the burrs) for a good flat Burr grinder. I think that's pretty darn good.
@@yagzcolak1648 I LOVE IT! seriously, it has been dead reliable and once i got used to the adjustments it helps me make delicious espresso. I am using it with a gagia classic with mods.
heard that they changed the burrs from espresso ones to filter specific ones sometime in 2020. Might explain why some people are having good results with it for espresso. I think I'm gonna get the crono and the espresso burr set. Still comes out cheaper than facile.
If that is the case I may have one of the newer ones without realizing it. But if you are interested in the crono I suggest you watch my most recent video where I talk it more in depth :)
@@CCCulture947 just got my crono and it definitely has the filter specific burrs. I changed the burrs on mine to the espresso ones and it's working incredibly well for espresso. Fixed my channeling problem that was persistent with my old grinders.
@@seeyouspacecowboy14 look for mignon 50mm burr set. You can only get the espresso burrs right now so pretty much all mignon 50mm burrs will be the one you would want.
I use my Crono for my Rocket machine. I have it dialed down to about .5 to 1 depending on the type of beans. Seems to be doing fine. I did add the Coffee Grinder Single Dose Hopper for Eureka Mignon Grinder 2 in 1 Function Coffee Grinder Accessories Hopper Hand Pressure Silicone. This helps to clear out the fine grinds.
I made the same assessment, enjoying my Crono! I think the only thing that makes it a "filter" grinder is that it doesn't come with a portafilter fork. They do make one (fits the Manuale) but it is OOS everywhere.
Couple months ago i bought Eureka Specialista for 519€, now looking at my local supplier, they have Crono for 179€.. such a waste of cash, since both are so similiar..damn
Judging by the timing of the video, your Crono most likely came with the filter burr. You can get the 50mm OEM espresso burr they make for the Eureka Mignon line for about 32 bucks on Amazon, and then swap out. I did exactly that and can pour beautiful shots with minimum channeling on my Gaggia Classic Pro
I have a very strong suspicion that all the Mignon grinders have the same internals. As to the fine-ness of the grind I took my Filtro down to 0.5 and ground 15g then I ran it in my Classic and it choked the portafilter completely. I'm not sure if this is Turkish but it's too fine for regular espresso (comes out like talc). A good starting point is 3 on the dial which I did 18g into 28g of water which took 22 seconds. It was bitter but the beans were supermarket 'Morning Roast' crap just to try out the grinder with. I'm waiting on some good espresso roast beans to dial in flavor. I'm going to buy a Chrono to handle my filter and French press lines but the Filtro is going to stay exclusively espresso. AS to price, I'm fairly sure that this is the usual espresso BS where as soon as you mention the E word the prices jack up by 50%. Don't be too hard of SCG, they got to make a living as well and if you want the sparkly version with chrome top and LCD doodads then good luck to you. For me I single dose and weigh in and out so a grinder timer is irrelevant. I'm now off to do some 3D printing. Why the Chrono? Because I can get a white case and the timer allows me to grind 75g of beans without holding onto the Technivorm filter basket. I'll probably end up modding the chrono for a simple toggle switch instead of the stupid basket button and timer. I might also spray the Filtro case Ferrari red eventually. At $200 to $250 these are reasonable prices for good quality grinders.
recently also made a switch from hand grinder to a powered grinder / niche zero for my bambino - love not having to wait forever to grind up a few coffees now do you always use the bottomless portafilter? is it worth it?
I like to use it because it helps me learn to stay consistent with my shots. Truthfully though there are days I would rather have a spouted one but overall i would take the bottomless
Does the Crono work in manual mode when grinding into a portafilter if the timer is set to "Min"? I mean, turning on when the portafilter presses the button and stopping when the it is put away? They show this on the video , but I never saw confirmation it is working this way ua-cam.com/video/SbZduSawl-k/v-deo.html
Hi Charles, I am looking to upgrade my grinder. The Eureka Mignon line caught my attention. I was thinking of getting the Notte. This espresso focused unit sells for about $329. Marc at WLL steered me to the Facile $399 which has the same sound treatement as the Silenzio. Without the sound treatement the Cronos and Notte are really loud. I will save up for the Facile to pair with my Gaggia Classic Pro.
Just received it in the mail and I’m going to be using my Breville Barista Express (the built in grinder was not up to par so I’m upgrading!) I wanted to know how the grind dial works? Like when turning clockwise it gets finer and harder to turn but idk how to control it? I’m trying it out rn so I’m checking how it works!
Have enjoyed your videos especially the first bottomless one. Are you still using the unpressurized basket? Have you tried any light/medium roasts? I think the concern is that for unpressurized it is really is really hard to dial in the correct grind size needed to properly extract different light/medium roasts. People like to vary the grind size with these so they can change the shot time by a couple of seconds and taste the difference. This is really what they mean when they say you need an espresso grinder. That kind of fine adjustment wouldn't be possible with the chrono. Check out James Hoffman's channel.
Thank you for the support I have tried some medium roasts with mixed results, but light roasts are a struggle since they usually would need a higher temperature which unfortunately this machine can’t do
@@CCCulture947 I bought standart burrs for my crono. It is faster grinding. However I think the taste of filtro pro burrs are better . Smoother . Standard is sharper. So I may move back to filtro pro burrs soon. By the way don't forget to do burr alignment it helps to better adjustment for espresso.
Yo me he decantado por el Eureka mignon manuale. Tb por la Sage Bambino ya que vivo en España. Y algunos accesorios brazo sin fondo, agitador circular de café, y tamper con resorte y aro para contener el casquillo a la hora de moler o introducir el café molido.
@@tkin73 If its a company saying that, than I don't trust them. Companies have been saying that even before I got my crono. It was how they were trying to upcharge me for a similar item.
@@CCCulture947 the company tell to me after I buy the chrono. I asked if is 100% compatible for espresso. And answer no "you must change the burrs" they told to me.
The "not too different" would be the gawg-awful noise of the Notte or Crono vs. the Mignon Facile. The price difference is worth it. It's hard to see how well this crono "worked" for brewing an espresso as he used a non-transparent cup. My guess was it looked solid black with a thin layer of crema on the top.
The only difference real difference mechanically speaking over there 500$ option, will be there burrs (depending on when it's produced). You can buy different burrs like the ones for finer grinding for about 30$
I just bought one. Worst case scenario I install different burrs. At 230$ (after potentially changing the burrs) for a good flat Burr grinder. I think that's pretty darn good.
Hey man, are you satisfied with your Chrono?
@@yagzcolak1648 I LOVE IT! seriously, it has been dead reliable and once i got used to the adjustments it helps me make delicious espresso. I am using it with a gagia classic with mods.
heard that they changed the burrs from espresso ones to filter specific ones sometime in 2020. Might explain why some people are having good results with it for espresso. I think I'm gonna get the crono and the espresso burr set. Still comes out cheaper than facile.
If that is the case I may have one of the newer ones without realizing it. But if you are interested in the crono I suggest you watch my most recent video where I talk it more in depth :)
@@CCCulture947 just got my crono and it definitely has the filter specific burrs. I changed the burrs on mine to the espresso ones and it's working incredibly well for espresso. Fixed my channeling problem that was persistent with my old grinders.
@@yoyomin were the replacement espresso ones the $30 ones on Amazon?
@@seeyouspacecowboy14 look for mignon 50mm burr set. You can only get the espresso burrs right now so pretty much all mignon 50mm burrs will be the one you would want.
@@yoyomindoes that mean if I buy the machine as is from the retailer I won’t have to buy separate burrs for espresso any longer?
I use my Crono for my Rocket machine. I have it dialed down to about .5 to 1 depending on the type of beans. Seems to be doing fine. I did add the Coffee Grinder Single Dose Hopper for Eureka Mignon Grinder 2 in 1 Function Coffee Grinder Accessories Hopper Hand Pressure Silicone. This helps to clear out the fine grinds.
I made the same assessment, enjoying my Crono! I think the only thing that makes it a "filter" grinder is that it doesn't come with a portafilter fork. They do make one (fits the Manuale) but it is OOS everywhere.
Total agree, especially when the first time I tried to use it. I choked my machine when I was dialing in my coffee
Couple months ago i bought Eureka Specialista for 519€, now looking at my local supplier, they have Crono for 179€.. such a waste of cash, since both are so similiar..damn
It’s not the same. Specialists motor rpm espresso much much better
Wow! I loved the POV STYLE! Do more plz
Sure thing!!! I think they are pretty cool 😛
Judging by the timing of the video, your Crono most likely came with the filter burr. You can get the 50mm OEM espresso burr they make for the Eureka Mignon line for about 32 bucks on Amazon, and then swap out.
I did exactly that and can pour beautiful shots with minimum channeling on my Gaggia Classic Pro
I actually got lucky and got one of the older models since I bought it open box. So I got a cheaper price and the better model 😝
I have a very strong suspicion that all the Mignon grinders have the same internals. As to the fine-ness of the grind I took my Filtro down to 0.5 and ground 15g then I ran it in my Classic and it choked the portafilter completely. I'm not sure if this is Turkish but it's too fine for regular espresso (comes out like talc). A good starting point is 3 on the dial which I did 18g into 28g of water which took 22 seconds. It was bitter but the beans were supermarket 'Morning Roast' crap just to try out the grinder with. I'm waiting on some good espresso roast beans to dial in flavor. I'm going to buy a Chrono to handle my filter and French press lines but the Filtro is going to stay exclusively espresso. AS to price, I'm fairly sure that this is the usual espresso BS where as soon as you mention the E word the prices jack up by 50%. Don't be too hard of SCG, they got to make a living as well and if you want the sparkly version with chrome top and LCD doodads then good luck to you. For me I single dose and weigh in and out so a grinder timer is irrelevant.
I'm now off to do some 3D printing.
Why the Chrono? Because I can get a white case and the timer allows me to grind 75g of beans without holding onto the Technivorm filter basket. I'll probably end up modding the chrono for a simple toggle switch instead of the stupid basket button and timer. I might also spray the Filtro case Ferrari red eventually. At $200 to $250 these are reasonable prices for good quality grinders.
What’s the grind setting number you used? 😅
recently also made a switch from hand grinder to a powered grinder / niche zero for my bambino - love not having to wait forever to grind up a few coffees now
do you always use the bottomless portafilter? is it worth it?
I like to use it because it helps me learn to stay consistent with my shots. Truthfully though there are days I would rather have a spouted one but overall i would take the bottomless
Does the Crono work in manual mode when grinding into a portafilter if the timer is set to "Min"? I mean, turning on when the portafilter presses the button and stopping when the it is put away?
They show this on the video , but I never saw confirmation it is working this way
ua-cam.com/video/SbZduSawl-k/v-deo.html
Hi Charles, I am looking to upgrade my grinder. The Eureka Mignon line caught my attention. I was thinking of getting the Notte. This espresso focused unit sells for about $329. Marc at WLL steered me to the Facile $399 which has the same sound treatement as the Silenzio. Without the sound treatement the Cronos and Notte are really loud.
I will save up for the Facile to pair with my Gaggia Classic Pro.
The facile is also a great choice, but personally the sound of the chrono has not been something that I have noticed
Just received it in the mail and I’m going to be using my Breville Barista Express (the built in grinder was not up to par so I’m upgrading!) I wanted to know how the grind dial works? Like when turning clockwise it gets finer and harder to turn but idk how to control it? I’m trying it out rn so I’m checking how it works!
Yes you are correct in your adjustments but ideally you wanna make it fine or course enough to get a 1:2 ratio of coffee to water
Have enjoyed your videos especially the first bottomless one. Are you still using the unpressurized basket? Have you tried any light/medium roasts? I think the concern is that for unpressurized it is really is really hard to dial in the correct grind size needed to properly extract different light/medium roasts. People like to vary the grind size with these so they can change the shot time by a couple of seconds and taste the difference. This is really what they mean when they say you need an espresso grinder. That kind of fine adjustment wouldn't be possible with the chrono. Check out James Hoffman's channel.
Thank you for the support I have tried some medium roasts with mixed results, but light roasts are a struggle since they usually would need a higher temperature which unfortunately this machine can’t do
anyone wonder if it is filter burrs Orr espresso ? 36 teeth = filter , 48 teeth = espresso
Never thought about counting the teeth, but now i'm curious lol
@@CCCulture947 I bought standart burrs for my crono. It is faster grinding. However I think the taste of filtro pro burrs are better . Smoother . Standard is sharper. So I may move back to filtro pro burrs soon. By the way don't forget to do burr alignment it helps to better adjustment for espresso.
@@lenso010 Any info how to do the burr alignment? It looks likes its just 3 screws attaching the top and bottom burrs.
@lenso010 yeah u can't fund anything related to alignment
I bought the 35$ espresso burrs.
Yo me he decantado por el Eureka mignon manuale. Tb por la Sage Bambino ya que vivo en España. Y algunos accesorios brazo sin fondo, agitador circular de café, y tamper con resorte y aro para contener el casquillo a la hora de moler o introducir el café molido.
Your grind is quit a bit too corse.. go a bit finer and you’ll have a better tasting result 😉
Yeah grind size can be tricky since it can change daily
Now chrono isn't compatible for espresso. The company has change the burrs
Let me check into that
@@CCCulture947 The Italian company inform me about that
@@tkin73 If its a company saying that, than I don't trust them. Companies have been saying that even before I got my crono. It was how they were trying to upcharge me for a similar item.
@@CCCulture947 the company tell to me after I buy the chrono. I asked if is 100% compatible for espresso. And answer no "you must change the burrs" they told to me.
Changing the burrs costs $35 dollars.
Crono now in 23 I believe filter
Sadly yes, but you can still purchase the espresso burrs for it
Cashew milk > Oat 😁
God hope that’s not crystal G from up north in New York the worse.
No no I’ve learned that little trick from the the la marzocco website 😉
@@CCCulture947 cuz I’m in NY and crystal is like off the hook in Ppm. I used the 10 gallons i bought to wash my car
FIND GRINNER!!!
The "not too different" would be the gawg-awful noise of the Notte or Crono vs. the Mignon Facile. The price difference is worth it.
It's hard to see how well this crono "worked" for brewing an espresso as he used a non-transparent cup. My guess was it looked solid black with a thin layer of crema on the top.
You bring up a valid point about the cup I’ll be sure to show the shot being pulled in a clear shot glass for a better reference 🙏🏽
@@CCCulture947 I know it's just eye-candy but it sure is pretty. Thanks.