I really hope the Walt Disney Company hasn't thrown these old programs in the trash. I would love to see a Vault Disney Channel, because it's pretty obvious that the teeny bopper culture isn't going away.
Yes, Hayley Mills played Miss Bliss in an older version of Saved by the Bell. Originally it was going to be about a teacher and her students, Hayley being that teacher. The characters became popular enough that the show was retooled so it would be based around them, and the rest is 80's sitcom history
Thank you so much for sharing this! I especially loved that little bit in the end where they show concept art for "Black Cauldron" I'd never seen before.
One fact that's kept secret is this came out when the studio fell on hard times. Sept. 1979 Don Bluth lead 11 eleven staff member off the lot delaying The Fox & the Hound's release followed by a strike by the remaining staff and the resigning of producer Ron Miller and it would take a decade for the company to recoop it loss.
I'm sure they were kicking themselves after his success. These types of stories happen all the time. Walt Disney himself was at one point told he lacked imagination. Life is not fair. And don't ever think you're not good enough at drawing. No one is born with the so called, gift. Drawing is a skill which can only be acquired like any other skill - through constant practice. You will get better if you keep at it.
ME ME ME ME ME!!! I DO I DO I DO!!! I spend all my free time working on animation cels of my favorite scenes of all my favorite disney movies and making backgrounds for it. also workin on animated short...sort of tribute to the great walt disney and disney heritage.... so i guess you can say...yes, i want to be a disney artist like you :D
Actually you can. We do that in gesture drawings. If artists are sitting at the park or airport or any public place, there's a style called gesture drawing. The aim is not to make beautifully rendered drawings but to capture the energy in the object's moving around you (birds, people, cars etc)
@TheArtistAddict I do so much. Drawing has been my passion for my entire life. Ive always loved Disney and the wonderful animation they do. Its my dream
You know one thing that the animators admit Walt could do better than any of them? Pitch the story! He was an awesome story man and worked really well in front of a storyboard, watch the video of him acting like the wicked hag from Snow White! Incredible!
OMG!!! They "no no" movie got a TV special!!! Why oh why did Disney forsake you Black Cauldron? Oh that slump era... I certainly hope the one that's going on now doesn't kill their animation... hoping Princess and the Frog will get the magic ball rolling again...
Did you know Walt couldn't draw good? That is why he started his own studio. he went around America hiring animators to work on his films. then he would direct them. he never drew anything on his films. I never got why people would want to work for Disney or any other company instead of creating your own legacy that matches or surpasses the company you desire to work in. But i guess you explained it to me clearly.
They really didn't do the Black Cauldron right. There's nothing distinct about it, Gurgi the only memorable character is laid to waste as an after thought only to reappear at the end of the movie.
Yes there are many i guss. Who dingily want to work in disney. Or be a great animator. N I am one of then i want it so badly since i was 17. but it's only now from last year i acutely doing something to follow my dream. I have joined an animation institute last year only. ANd every thing in this felled is so exited as i have dreamed of. but it's heard to get the right path all the time.
I think "The Black Cauldron" would have been so much better if Hayley Mills had actually voiced Eilonwy instead of Susan Sheridan! Who else thinks that?
That was a rumor. I found an article discussing that it traced back to some trial where a lady said he was a cross dresser, (Hoover.) Then they put in a movie and everybody believes. No way of knowing, but as I say, typical of the media to believe everything it hears. It may or may not be true.
@TheArtistAddict i dont really want to work for disney per say, but i do want to be a great animator someday, disney just doesnt seem like tha way for me. Still.. i hope it works out for you and ill be praying that it does
I want to be a voice artist for Disney, voice acting look so fun, I have watched enough Disney movies ever since I can remember, and I think I could do it, I am 26 years old, so I have a rich developed voice, I am a singer I started voice lessons age age 5 so, I can speak clearly and sing clearly as well, my teacher was from Juliard so I had the best! WHERE DO I SIGN! By the way, I love Hayley Mills, so is so cute, what a beautfiul woman, I love her voice!
he didn't draw in movies for the reason the gentleman above you mentioned! He was too busy! Walt knew how to get the best out of artists more talented than he. Yes he could draw and animate; he had, but at Walt Disney studios during that golden age of animation where everything was raw and they were still trying to figure out how to do "this amazing thing that is bringing drawings to life", he had to be more focused with the sum of all the parts and not any one particular section.
Well the doc had real employees that worked with Walt himself who bad mouthed him. Its not really that surprising. I mean there were a LOT of racists back then. It was a different time
@TheArtistAddict i do! since i was 2! literally! but it will be a lot harder for me since i live...."farther than you've travelled, I'm sure..." but i do have the skill...just needs a loooot more hard work and learning!
He never drew any drawings in his movies. There are hundreds of people needed to complete a feature movie in the high quality that Disney movies have. He also never directed the movies but he was the visionary who was like the Captain of the ship. That's why Disney movies were so go until he died. After that they were more or less formula productions. Bambi, Snow White, Pinocchio, Jungle Book are still better than the modern ones.
i respect your comment i can draw but maybe im not good enough to do that i just think the disney company isnt all that they didnt take the creator of the charlie brown he applied to work for them and turned him down i dont like the disney corperation
That's what I meant when I said he was the visionary. Disney himself didn't have to be the great craftsman. It was enough that he had the ability to know what he tried to achieve and had a vision that most people lack. I have worked for and with some of the best animators in the business. They are superb artists but they lack the vision and storytelling ability that Disney had. That's why all the modern animated features are all very bland. They have terrific artwork but they lack originality.
I'm sure Disney could draw and animate to some extent and worked on the really early stuff but I don't think he was that great of a craftsman like Ub Iwerks was or later artists like Milt Kahl or Freddy Moore. Like I said, Disney was more the visionary and the Captain of the ship, and he clearly is responsible for the high standard the company has produced. I used to be an animator at Disney too but of course in more recent times long after his death.
From the research I've done, it appears a lot of marxists, (and I mean real Marxists,) were upset the Walt was angry at the Communist Party, and it looks like they spread a lot of rumors about him.
I wonder why Hayley Mills didn't get to do the voice of Eilonwy. She kind of sounded like the character. It must have been disappointing for her to go through all that excitement for nothing.
From what I can tell it has more to do with the stereotypical Republican, which whichever side you are on it is wrong to stereotype the other side as ALL racist. From what I can tell it is mainly the strike people that said Walt was racist, and everybody else didn't. Edgar Hoover is another example, a right wing, often assumed racist, assumed to have been anti-King, but there is some reason to believe that fake letters were made between Hoover and his associates.
I could not imagine anyone else as big mama....... thanks to this movie I know who Pearl Bailey was and she was a beautiful talented lady
Maybe Joe Pesci
I really hope the Walt Disney Company hasn't thrown these old programs in the trash. I would love to see a Vault Disney Channel, because it's pretty obvious that the teeny bopper culture isn't going away.
She was great, rest peacefully Pearl 🙏🏽
The Fox and the Hound makes me cry!! But I still love it.
loved Halley Mills and the beautiful Pearl Bailey. my mom owned all of her records.
R.I.P. Pearl Bailey
Pearl Bailey died the same year I was born!
Yes, Hayley Mills played Miss Bliss in an older version of Saved by the Bell. Originally it was going to be about a teacher and her students, Hayley being that teacher. The characters became popular enough that the show was retooled so it would be based around them, and the rest is 80's sitcom history
Thank you so much for sharing this! I especially loved that little bit in the end where they show concept art for "Black Cauldron" I'd never seen before.
One fact that's kept secret is this came out when the studio fell on hard times. Sept. 1979 Don Bluth lead 11 eleven staff member off the lot delaying The Fox & the Hound's release followed by a strike by the remaining staff and the resigning of producer Ron Miller and it would take a decade for the company to recoop it loss.
I love this!! I'm so glad they did a behind the scenes for Fox and the Hound
I'm sure they were kicking themselves after his success. These types of stories happen all the time. Walt Disney himself was at one point told he lacked imagination. Life is not fair. And don't ever think you're not good enough at drawing. No one is born with the so called, gift. Drawing is a skill which can only be acquired like any other skill - through constant practice. You will get better if you keep at it.
Hayley Mills!?! Wow!😮
I believe that was before she did Good Morning, Miss Bliss before it was changed to Saved By The Bell
Pearl Bailey reminds me of Queen Latifah; shame they didn't get to play mother/daughter grandma/granddaughter...
1981. Black Cauldron had been in production that long? It would later come out in 1985.
Thank Eisner and Katzenburg for that. They ruined it from becoming the gem it coulda been in that Decade.
disney used to be all magical and enchanting
THIS WAS Disney!!!!!!!!!
great!
ME ME ME ME ME!!! I DO I DO I DO!!!
I spend all my free time working on animation cels of my favorite scenes of all my favorite disney movies and making backgrounds for it. also workin on animated short...sort of tribute to the great walt disney and disney heritage....
so i guess you can say...yes, i want to be a disney artist like you :D
OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO GOD i remember that, i whatch this 30 years ago and decide to be an animator
Absolutley, I want to be a Disney Animator
Actually you can. We do that in gesture drawings. If artists are sitting at the park or airport or any public place, there's a style called gesture drawing. The aim is not to make beautifully rendered drawings but to capture the energy in the object's moving around you (birds, people, cars etc)
yeah you're right.
@TheArtistAddict Right back at you!
@TheArtistAddict I do so much. Drawing has been my passion for my entire life. Ive always loved Disney and the wonderful animation they do. Its my dream
You know one thing that the animators admit Walt could do better than any of them? Pitch the story!
He was an awesome story man and worked really well in front of a storyboard, watch the video of him acting like the wicked hag from Snow White! Incredible!
Me Too :D
thank you and i do keep at it not as much as i should though
OMG!!! They "no no" movie got a TV special!!! Why oh why did Disney forsake you Black Cauldron? Oh that slump era... I certainly hope the one that's going on now doesn't kill their animation... hoping Princess and the Frog will get the magic ball rolling again...
Do u have part 2?
Did you know Walt couldn't draw good? That is why he started his own studio. he went around America hiring animators to work on his films. then he would direct them. he never drew anything on his films. I never got why people would want to work for Disney or any other company instead of creating your own legacy that matches or surpasses the company you desire to work in. But i guess you explained it to me clearly.
They really didn't do the Black Cauldron right.
There's nothing distinct about it, Gurgi the only memorable character is laid to waste as an after thought only to reappear at the end of the movie.
Yes there are many i guss. Who dingily want to work in disney. Or be a great animator. N I am one of then i want it so badly since i was 17. but it's only now from last year i acutely doing something to follow my dream. I have joined an animation institute last year only.
ANd every thing in this felled is so exited as i have dreamed of. but it's heard to get the right path all the time.
I’m my heart, Halley Mills will always be sweet, cute, Pollyanna to me.
A wooden boy? A talking fox that acts human is just as strange.
I think "The Black Cauldron" would have been so much better if Hayley Mills had actually voiced Eilonwy instead of Susan Sheridan! Who else thinks that?
That was a rumor. I found an article discussing that it traced back to some trial where a lady said he was a cross dresser, (Hoover.) Then they put in a movie and everybody believes. No way of knowing, but as I say, typical of the media to believe everything it hears. It may or may not be true.
Too bad Hayley Mills didn't voice Eilonwy, I'm sure she would have made a great voice.
what disney strike?
@TheArtistAddict i dont really want to work for disney per say, but i do want to be a great animator someday, disney just doesnt seem like tha way for me. Still.. i hope it works out for you and ill be praying that it does
I want to be a voice artist for Disney, voice acting look so fun, I have watched enough Disney movies ever since I can remember, and I think I could do it, I am 26 years old, so I have a rich developed voice, I am a singer I started voice lessons age age 5 so, I can speak clearly and sing clearly as well, my teacher was from Juliard so I had the best! WHERE DO I SIGN!
By the way, I love Hayley Mills, so is so cute, what a beautfiul woman, I love her voice!
@TheArtistAddict
Me! I so want to be an artist for them. Thats my dream.
@disneyinuyamon She couldn't have beat Susan Sheridan's charming voice?
i hope you got to work for disney
he didn't draw in movies for the reason the gentleman above you mentioned! He was too busy! Walt knew how to get the best out of artists more talented than he. Yes he could draw and animate; he had, but at Walt Disney studios during that golden age of animation where everything was raw and they were still trying to figure out how to do "this amazing thing that is bringing drawings to life", he had to be more focused with the sum of all the parts and not any one particular section.
Isn't this Once Upon A Mouse?
Isn't this One Upon A Mouse?
AYElanwee? Or EiLONwy?
nothing like queen latifah.
Well then, I find it coincidental that many of them also sided with the seemingly meaningless Disney strike.
Well the doc had real employees that worked with Walt himself who bad mouthed him. Its not really that surprising. I mean there were a LOT of racists back then. It was a different time
@TheArtistAddict i do! since i was 2! literally! but it will be a lot harder for me since i live...."farther than you've travelled, I'm sure..." but i do have the skill...just needs a loooot more hard work and learning!
actually 34-35
He never drew any drawings in his movies. There are hundreds of people needed to complete a feature movie in the high quality that Disney movies have. He also never directed the movies but he was the visionary who was like the Captain of the ship. That's why Disney movies were so go until he died. After that they were more or less formula productions. Bambi, Snow White, Pinocchio, Jungle Book are still better than the modern ones.
i respect your comment i can draw but maybe im not good enough to do that i just think the disney company isnt all that they didnt take the creator of the charlie brown he applied to work for them and turned him down i dont like the disney corperation
you want to be better than walt disney and create your own studio.
That's what I meant when I said he was the visionary. Disney himself didn't have to be the great craftsman. It was enough that he had the ability to know what he tried to achieve and had a vision that most people lack. I have worked for and with some of the best animators in the business. They are superb artists but they lack the vision and storytelling ability that Disney had. That's why all the modern animated features are all very bland. They have terrific artwork but they lack originality.
I'm sure Disney could draw and animate to some extent and worked on the really early stuff but I don't think he was that great of a craftsman like Ub Iwerks was or later artists like Milt Kahl or Freddy Moore. Like I said, Disney was more the visionary and the Captain of the ship, and he clearly is responsible for the high standard the company has produced. I used to be an animator at Disney too but of course in more recent times long after his death.
@realar One word: RATINGS
@TheArtistAddict I did but the trash that supported bush and was depicted in Mine Fuerer has destroyed America and its dreams.
Why don't they air this stuff on Disney anymore, teen junk replaced Vault Disney how stupid.
yeah i saw the doc about Walt that said he couldnt draw and was a racist. oh well
Yeah talk about generic.
They REALLY did a boo boo with that film.
I'd be interested in any evidence you have of Walt's racism or anti-racism, outside of those few employees.
Hard to read history without bias.
From the research I've done, it appears a lot of marxists, (and I mean real Marxists,) were upset the Walt was angry at the Communist Party, and it looks like they spread a lot of rumors about him.
i just cant see someone draw when the other person is jumping around like that that is a disney fake
What if Queen Latifa was Big Mamma?
It would be worse. The role is made for Pearl Bailey.
Sorry so many replies.
I wonder why Hayley Mills didn't get to do the voice of Eilonwy. She kind of sounded like the character. It must have been disappointing for her to go through all that excitement for nothing.
He was a cross dresser though :3
From what I can tell it has more to do with the stereotypical Republican, which whichever side you are on it is wrong to stereotype the other side as ALL racist. From what I can tell it is mainly the strike people that said Walt was racist, and everybody else didn't.
Edgar Hoover is another example, a right wing, often assumed racist, assumed to have been anti-King, but there is some reason to believe that fake letters were made between Hoover and his associates.
i think it was the only film jeff katzenberg made before the transition out of disney. That just shows how much he sucks!