Thomas & Friends: Season 11 & The Great Discovery (2007-8) in Retrospect - The Thomas Retrospective

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  • @LimpBizkitMix
    @LimpBizkitMix 3 місяці тому +658

    The fact that the kids get a day off school to look for Thomas in TGD is enough for me to call em lucky bastards

  • @iammaybeabro4598
    @iammaybeabro4598 3 місяці тому +965

    I can’t believe they filmed an entire season in Mexico

    • @MannyHeffley077
      @MannyHeffley077 3 місяці тому +47

      Should be yellow tho

    • @Nic_2751
      @Nic_2751 3 місяці тому +13

      HA

    • @observingnerd
      @observingnerd 3 місяці тому +126

      "Jesse, we must pick up the special!"

    • @Nic_2751
      @Nic_2751 3 місяці тому +12

      @@observingnerd El Camino…..

    • @Flyingdurito
      @Flyingdurito 3 місяці тому +34

      @@observingnerdbut Mr White, I think I’ll look silly doing it
      God I was cringing as I wrote that, I really hate the majority of seasons 9-16

  • @MadHymek323
    @MadHymek323 3 місяці тому +629

    * I believe the point of Whiff's basis being Aerolite is the juxtaposition of a private passenger engine doing really menial dirty work, it was probably funny to the concept artists deciding character basises to make such a glamorous engine be so opposite to that in character

    • @r41lway329
      @r41lway329 3 місяці тому +42

      i always headcanoned that whiff was the prototype of the design, but aerolite was more famous

    • @scotturry7165
      @scotturry7165 3 місяці тому +6

      It is

    • @williamhumes7332
      @williamhumes7332 3 місяці тому +18

      No wonder why he is a beloved character in the fandom, which considering when he debuted in, is pretty damn impressive.

    • @herochris1221
      @herochris1221 3 місяці тому +17

      It’s interesting how Whiff was loved by fans and fun fact he is the only steam engine that wears a pair of glasses.

    • @Thad4002
      @Thad4002 3 місяці тому +3

      this isnt undertale, dont put an asterisk at the beginning of your comment

  • @Calebtrain
    @Calebtrain 3 місяці тому +133

    It really is a shame how uninspired sets were in this era, they are serviceable but not memorable (though like you say, those BG hills do help). That said, I think TGD did catch a second wind with Great Waterton, the Bridge, and the mine. You could tell there was ambition there, and that matters!

  • @IsleofPigsStudios
    @IsleofPigsStudios 3 місяці тому +570

    Hector the Horrid was honestly one of Brandon’s best performances. He makes Hector sound so intimidating.

    • @Koopalingfan
      @Koopalingfan 3 місяці тому +17

      He sure does.

    • @lilnike2
      @lilnike2 3 місяці тому +20

      He scared me when I was a kid that’s how yk that was good acting

    • @champ2stay920
      @champ2stay920 3 місяці тому +14

      it did scare me when I I first saw the episode back in the day.

    • @rantroller1662
      @rantroller1662 3 місяці тому +22

      Agreed, even as a kid, Hector the Horrid was always an episode that stuck out to me not just because of Brandon's performance but the character and design of Hector himself

    • @joshuaW5621
      @joshuaW5621 3 місяці тому +2

      Even Dalek44/Simon's Cartoon Studio agrees with this.

  • @hudsontrainguy1217
    @hudsontrainguy1217 3 місяці тому +431

    Fun fact: Tom Hanks visited the studio room where Season 11 was still in production while production of the film “The Da Vinci Code”. He in fact loved Thomas and had a good time seeing all the models and sets in action. Imagine if he was the narrator for The US dub of The Great Discovery?

    • @thesudriana016
      @thesudriana016 3 місяці тому +56

      That would be a genuine surprise! Despite not being an actor of the show, it's great to see him as a Thomas fan of it all.

    • @emersoninfinitystone5785
      @emersoninfinitystone5785 3 місяці тому +69

      Tom Hanks as US narrator and Pierce Brosnan as UK narrator after Season 11..... goddamn it how i want that timeline now!.

    • @ryanfuller912
      @ryanfuller912 3 місяці тому +5

      SAY WHAT?!

    • @cinnamonmantrainsareawesom7224
      @cinnamonmantrainsareawesom7224 3 місяці тому +14

      @@thesudriana016yeah that was nice imagine sheriff woody met Thomas

    • @LimpBizkitMix
      @LimpBizkitMix 3 місяці тому +4

      That explains the photo I saw of him holding Topham’s prop

  • @inaciosthirdstudio
    @inaciosthirdstudio 3 місяці тому +279

    Honestly, seeing season 11 of Thomas being it’s final season for all models just feels like saying goodbye to an old friend because you remember all the fun times you’ve had before hand.

    • @GothRailfan
      @GothRailfan 3 місяці тому +17

      Project Tiger Moth was that "it's good to see you again old friend" moment after so many years.

    • @raulreyes5141
      @raulreyes5141 3 місяці тому +6

      Well , I have watched season 11, but not all of it, the movie is the only thing of media that I enjoy the most watching, and Hector the horrid

    • @NintendoGamer2600
      @NintendoGamer2600 3 місяці тому

      ​@@raulreyes5141I personally think the hit era as a whole is a bit over-hated. Like there a lot more great episodes than people give credit for. I highly recommend everyone watch: "In Defense of the Hit Era: the debate revisited" by The Thomas Cynic. It is a very well put together video. It is 2 years old now, and the Thomas Cynic himself retired from making Thomas videos like last year, but I personally feel that the video still holds up very well today.

    • @fanofeverything30465
      @fanofeverything30465 3 місяці тому +5

      And The Great Discovery is like that final hug

    • @minecraftpr00
      @minecraftpr00 5 днів тому

      not necessarily season 12 is-int FULL model but its mostly model and its not very good either :( in my opinion a bad way to end the model era

  • @thelonelylocomotive92
    @thelonelylocomotive92 3 місяці тому +105

    There is actually an explanation for the yellow tint in season 11. During an event in Birmingham (the same place the season 10 bloopers came from) Simon Spencer talked about the show using the aforementioned yellow tint to give off the effect as if Thomas was still being recorded using film stock. Whether or not it did so successfully is up for debate but it is a neat little fact.

    • @thebatterymill
      @thebatterymill 3 місяці тому +17

      Yeah it does reflect Season 4/5 slightly. Although they did get rid of it in S12 so I believe even they thought it was a failure

    • @lukegoldstonofficial1614
      @lukegoldstonofficial1614 2 місяці тому +15

      It’s a neat idea but the execution wasn’t good. They could have done things like adding a film scratch filter, or you know, go back to shooting on film.

    • @jordon1141
      @jordon1141 Місяць тому

      the lighting still looks like ass anyway. idc if anyone likes it it feels like someone pissed on it.

  • @Jtmissile
    @Jtmissile 3 місяці тому +109

    "And his character was never meant to go far"
    (Billy runs out of water)
    That got a chuckle out of me 😂

    • @QJ89
      @QJ89 3 місяці тому +1

      If HiT were more concerned about making characters instead of peddling out colourful toys, they could have made Billy and Stanley the same engine; the name and livery of Stanley, with the brash stubborness and eagerness to please of Billy. Maybe also the quirky sense of humour from Charlie (Another Manning Wardle saddle-tank engine).
      But we wouldn't get an orange tank engine to sell and be quickly forgotten about, would we?

    • @fanofeverything30465
      @fanofeverything30465 3 місяці тому

      ​@@QJ89Charlie was originally supposed to be Billy

    • @dylanlyles9453
      @dylanlyles9453 2 місяці тому +4

      I think Billy is fine and the episode Don't Be Silly, Billy is pretty good in my opinion because it shows a mature Thomas trying to look after an engine who was just like the Thomas we know in Season 1.

    • @fanofeverything30465
      @fanofeverything30465 2 місяці тому +2

      @@dylanlyles9453 I agree with you 💯

    • @dylanlyles9453
      @dylanlyles9453 2 місяці тому +2

      @@fanofeverything30465 Thank you

  • @CaptainCat101
    @CaptainCat101 3 місяці тому +179

    The Great Discovery is easily one of the best specials from the Star Wars franchise

  • @FyreFoxYT
    @FyreFoxYT 3 місяці тому +80

    I'm surprised he didn't mention how 'Thomas and the stinky cheese' got partially remade into a CGI animation test, before the show went full CGI!

    • @shivamkamil1581
      @shivamkamil1581 3 місяці тому +20

      Maybe he will mention that in the next one

    • @Thomasmemoryscentral
      @Thomasmemoryscentral 3 місяці тому +2

      Or how the UK titles for a few episodes were reused. Glad he mentioned the ugly yellow filter but how can he forget the fact the UK run has 2 stories called Thomas In Trouble and Dirty Work. At least call the James one Dirty Jobs to differentiate itself from s2

    • @fanofeverything30465
      @fanofeverything30465 3 місяці тому +8

      ​@@shivamkamil1581Or maybe he'll mention it in Season 13's Retrospective

    • @WillCWilson
      @WillCWilson 3 місяці тому +5

      ​@@fanofeverything30465It would make more sense for him to mention it for Season 13; that was the first season to go full CGI, whereas Season 12 was only partially CGI

    • @fanofeverything30465
      @fanofeverything30465 3 місяці тому +1

      @@WillCWilson That's what I was thinking

  • @Dudus366
    @Dudus366 3 місяці тому +93

    And thus, we're ending with the full model era. Everyone has a piece of it in our hearts, whenever it's from great writing, beautiful scenography, or impresive modelwork.

  • @anthonywoodard7200
    @anthonywoodard7200 3 місяці тому +130

    I like that Thomas and Gordon’s alliance was resurfaced this year, and I like Henry, Gordon, and James making fun of Emily with Wiff in “Emily and the Rubbish.”

    • @joshuaW5621
      @joshuaW5621 3 місяці тому +7

      I’ve seen a few people criticising Sodor’s Legend of the Lost Treasure recently for braking their alliance and I’m just sitting here thinking “they’ve already been braking it since season 5”.

    • @AppalachianRailfan99
      @AppalachianRailfan99 3 місяці тому +12

      @@joshuaW5621if you think about it, the moment The railway series adaptions stop, Thomas and Gordon’s alliance is broken. I also love how Gordon helps Thomas out here. Love Gordon and Thomas’s dynamic

    • @anthonywoodard7200
      @anthonywoodard7200 3 місяці тому +5

      I really wish the Thomas and Gordon dynamic was used more often in the Hit era Thomas and Gordon is such a good character pairing and makes for some good stories.

    • @LegendaryCaptain
      @LegendaryCaptain 3 місяці тому +6

      ​@TrainsRKool1999 I'm sure he'll point out their dynamic when he gets to hero of the rails

    • @AppalachianRailfan99
      @AppalachianRailfan99 3 місяці тому

      @@LegendaryCaptain hope so

  • @shivamkamil1581
    @shivamkamil1581 3 місяці тому +58

    Season 11 feels like the season where they're the most comfortable writing "HiT era". All the newbies have personalities that feel like they matter, S11 makes better use of S10's newbies than 10 did of 9's, most episodes want to remind you that there's a whole world outside of the Steam Team, a good chunk of Thomas-centered episodes feels like "Thomas" episodes, the three strikes is put to better use than in S10 (and not as often)and it feels like they've gotten the hang of world-building and bringing things back. Not to mention, The Great Discovery is, well, great! And honestly S11 and TGD are fun. They're just fun!
    21:29 I feel like that's because they deleted a scene of Gordon passing by just as James did. There is an unused "disgusted" Gordon face that supports this.
    38:26 I think that's the point and it makes him more admirable. The joke is completed by having Emily and Spencer in the episodes. Each basis for all three are at the National Railway Museum. And I think it does inform his character. The CGI series makes him an older character, with a similar voice to Edward. We see in O the Indignity and Whiff's Wish that he actually does jump at the chance to be admired deep down, even though he is perfectly happy working with garbage. This contrasts with Scruff, who never cares about being admired, never did prestigious work in the past, and would avoid the spotlight entirely. After all, one runs away from being washed, while another accepts it. The contrast between Whiff and Scruff is a lot like the contrast between Skarloey and Rheneas when you think about it.
    To repost what I once said on Twitter, while Skarloey/Whiff are the more developed characters, I think I like the general personalities of Rheneas/Scruff more. Whiff and Skarloey are both really old and wise, gentle and easy-going but stern when need be, and quite knowledgeable about history. They're both a lot more mature than the louder engines but ultimately can still have fun. Neither are fussed about appearances, despite having once been the grandest thing ever back in the day, they literally don't care. They're just good workers above all else, no matter how dirty or smelly the job, and neither care about the opinions of others.
    Scruff and Rheneas are both tough, scrappy workers who value function most of all and not even the least bit about form. While Whiff/Skarloey will accept a polish or wash if they have the time, Scruff/Rheneas will flatly reject it. They don't care about being recognized for their work, and neither is good with being the center of attention and are rather awkward and uncomfortable when being put on the spot, often just fading into the background willingly. They have zero other aspirations other than to do their work and get it done, never giving up, and offering assistance to those who are struggling with it (see The Switch and O the Indignity)

    • @NintendoGamer2600
      @NintendoGamer2600 3 місяці тому +3

      I think you should watch: "In Defense of the Hit Era: the debate revisited" by the Thomas Cynic. Very well put together video

    • @robertrowley4929
      @robertrowley4929 3 місяці тому +2

      @@NintendoGamer2600I love that video; it’s such a pleasure to watch.

  • @sonickreekgamer7625
    @sonickreekgamer7625 3 місяці тому +122

    The great discovery is the best Thomas movie ngl🎉

    • @cybertroniccustomz998
      @cybertroniccustomz998 3 місяці тому +5

      Absolutely

    • @sonickreekgamer7625
      @sonickreekgamer7625 3 місяці тому +4

      @@cybertroniccustomz998 thanks!

    • @txlmu
      @txlmu 3 місяці тому +6

      I think it would be Legend of the Lost Treasure, but that’s my CGI nostalgia possibly.

    • @Wildcatt1999
      @Wildcatt1999 3 місяці тому +3

      I got actually got to it this theaters when it first came out!

    • @mastermaker352
      @mastermaker352 3 місяці тому +3

      My thoughts exactly.

  • @TomatrontheOne
    @TomatrontheOne 3 місяці тому +34

    I personally have never minded the yellow tint S11 has. It gives the season its own unique look against the rest of the HIT era. The yellow tint gives it sort of a warm, cozy look that’s less corporate and plain than S8-10 and especially S12. I get why people don’t like it, but I can look at the season just fine.
    The shot direction this season was also much more interesting to me compared to the rest of the hit era, especially in Thomas and the spaceship. Some really interesting angles in that one
    S11 pales in comparison to the classic seasons, but I can’t help but enjoy this season more than the rest of the hit era. The pace isn’t as dull as the rest of the era

  • @Myeongkee9
    @Myeongkee9 3 місяці тому +90

    I want to give a special shoutout to Thomas and the Storyteller from this season for how it sort of subverts both the 3 strikes formula and the "special special" tropes.
    None of the "strikes" Thomas makes in this episode are really actual mistakes. They all involve him interrupting his special plans in order to help his friends get their jobs done. James' and Emily's incidents that Thomas helps with involve legitimate safety concerns (a broken side rod and a broken whistle), and each time, Thomas immediately decides to help all of them instead of rushing off to get his own "special" work done and leaving them stranded, which we've seen in other HiT episodes.
    In doing all of this, Thomas runs out of time to actually show the storyteller the "special" places on Sodor, and he is thus worried that the storyteller won't have a grand story to tell at the library's opening. But she reassures him that the day they did have helping others will make a wonderful story of its own. And the episode itself proves her right.
    The episode isn't very flashy, but it purposefully isn't trying to be. Any opportunities for special locations or fancy gimmicks that we typically expect from this era are all constantly subverted by Thomas choosing to help his friends out first and foremost. It instead shows a rather mature, considerate Thomas selflessly helping others and still being rewarded for it. A very underrated episode IMO.
    I also like how in "Dream On", Thomas comes to the realization of being content with who he is on his own without getting into some big accident. And in the end, he is still able to help the Duke of Botsford by simply being there to help when he is needed.

    • @e-122psi3
      @e-122psi3 3 місяці тому +15

      I also like 'Thomas In Trouble" as Thomas does screw up, but it's out of wanting to take responsibility for a job, and the state Thomas is in shows all the empathy his friends have for him. Liked the detail of Henry taking Thomas to the works, given Thomas' increased awareness with Henry's sickness over the previous seasons.
      Having James take Annie and Clarabel fits nicely with later CGI lore as well.

    • @Thomasmemoryscentral
      @Thomasmemoryscentral 3 місяці тому +2

      @@e-122psi3 how about Edward And The Mail? Channel ASodorLife made me really appreciate the episode more as it allows Edward to have a flaw that isn’t him worrying to an all time low and isn’t a jerk at a high. Henry and Emily even praise him at the start at Edward to cover the mail during Percy’s absence because they think he knows everything and Edward is just a little unsure of how to ask help because of that high status the engines put him on

    • @fanofeverything30465
      @fanofeverything30465 3 місяці тому +1

      ​@@ThomasmemoryscentralI agree

    • @fanofeverything30465
      @fanofeverything30465 3 місяці тому +2

      Season 11 kind of continued the trend of subversive stories from Season 10

    • @joshuaW5621
      @joshuaW5621 3 місяці тому +5

      This might be one of the few episodes in this season where they try to do something different with the 3 strike formula, which makes it all the more appreciative.

  • @AndriuV2
    @AndriuV2 3 місяці тому +106

    Season 11 is *UNDOUBTEDLY* a Season of last's...

    • @kevin-2.1
      @kevin-2.1 3 місяці тому +4

      A routine season

    • @marleyrios1573
      @marleyrios1573 Місяць тому +1

      2007 was a blast because of a new British show of a little red race car. And Hasbro joined up with Cartoon Network for a new show for transformers releasing on 26/12/07

  • @David_Mattox
    @David_Mattox 3 місяці тому +38

    Congrats on beating Usual Bloke Luke to Season 11.
    Wasn’t expecting Thomas to win MVP this year, my guess was his trophy coming from S19, between TAB and Lost Treasure, though I could be wrong in connecting both films to the season.

    • @ToadisKing
      @ToadisKing 3 місяці тому +2

      It takes time ya know

    • @fanofeverything30465
      @fanofeverything30465 3 місяці тому +2

      TAB will be connected to Season 19 Lost Treasure will be connected to Season 20

  • @BigLightning4360
    @BigLightning4360 3 місяці тому +117

    "Thomas, You're the Leader of the Tracks!"

  • @andysokal1564
    @andysokal1564 3 місяці тому +37

    Season 1: complete
    Season 2: innovative
    Season 3: big
    Season 4: comfy
    Season 5: peak
    Season 6: cute
    Season 7: eye of the storm
    Season 8: milquetoast
    Season 9: peaks and valleys
    Season 10: drawn out
    Season 11: routine.

  • @spicypeppers7773
    @spicypeppers7773 3 місяці тому +52

    I'm still impressed at how the Tug manages to make these individual retrospectives for these later seasons so long yet not be dragged out, despite it seeming at first that there's nothing really special to talk about with these seasons of the show

    • @Woodenfan
      @Woodenfan 2 місяці тому

      I'm really curious to see what he thinks of the Nitrogen era episodes in that same vein.
      Seasons 13-15 especially are going to be _tough_ to talk about.

    • @karseniberra
      @karseniberra 2 місяці тому +2

      i think for the Nitrogen seasons hes gonna mostly focus on the specials because let’s be honest, those were the things the production team really cared about
      the quality difference of HOTR and BMM to their seasons is astonishing

    • @NitroIndigo
      @NitroIndigo Місяць тому

      @@Woodenfan I think he'll need plenty of alcohol to get through the Nitrogen seasons.

  • @andydoms2001
    @andydoms2001 3 місяці тому +25

    I think it’s a shame that Pierce Brosnan didn’t continue narrating the show after TGD, he’s great. Given the poor quality of S12-16 though, maybe it was for the better.

    • @Swag_K1RBY
      @Swag_K1RBY 3 місяці тому +3

      Imagine him narrarting wonky whistle or up up and away

  • @sandrahwu
    @sandrahwu 3 місяці тому +49

    In Tug’s opinion, the MVP awards for each season of the Model era rightfully go to… :
    Season 1: Henry
    Season 2: Edward
    Season 3: Duck
    Season 4: Peter Sam
    Season 5: Sir Topham Hatt
    Season 6: Percy
    Season 7: Arthur
    Jack and the Pack: Oliver (the excavator)
    Season 8: Emily
    Season 9: Percy (again)
    Season 10: James
    Season 11: Thomas (tho based on Tug’s analysis, I’d argue that Gordon deserves the status more)
    I wonder which character will end the series with the most MVP awards to their name?

    • @PCMan8922
      @PCMan8922 3 місяці тому +5

      Percy deserves those two awards.

    • @fanofeverything30465
      @fanofeverything30465 3 місяці тому

      I think it will be either Percy or Edward

    • @fanofeverything30465
      @fanofeverything30465 3 місяці тому +2

      Who do you think it will be for Season 12 personally my money's on Gordon

    • @robertrowley4929
      @robertrowley4929 3 місяці тому +1

      @@fanofeverything30465I’ll take a piece of that action.

    • @fanofeverything30465
      @fanofeverything30465 3 місяці тому

      @@robertrowley4929 What does that mean

  • @comicfan1324
    @comicfan1324 3 місяці тому +5

    Honestly, it’s a shame that Madge was relegated to only the seasons. With a little bit of re-tooling I’m sure she could’ve worked in CGI. You can keep her motherly side when she interacts with less mature characters like Duncan or Luke, but you could also lean into that free spirited side that we see in cool truckings as she comes across his the type to “get her hands dirty to get the job done”

  • @quack360
    @quack360 3 місяці тому +41

    The great discovery is low key, a favorite of mine

  • @Altoclarinets
    @Altoclarinets 3 місяці тому +38

    "Thomas' lamp lens is more clear in the original shots and more grey and muddy in the Great Discovery and the reshoots" How is the autism going, TTTE fandom? Is it fun? It looks fun

    • @iratepirate3896
      @iratepirate3896 3 місяці тому +5

      There's a hilarious amount of academic research on the links between TTTE and autism

    • @Altoclarinets
      @Altoclarinets 3 місяці тому +11

      ​@@iratepirate3896 oh to be fully clear I am aware and also 100% autistic myself it just tickles me to see it making itself known lol

    • @NitroIndigo
      @NitroIndigo 3 місяці тому +8

      @@iratepirate3896 Seriously?
      I also have a pet hypothesis that Thomas is responsible for the stereotype that autistic people like trains. After all, the reasons why it appeals to autistic people - it's calm, the characters have clear expressions, etc. - have nothing to do with trains, but I don't know what attitudes towards autism were like in the 80s.

    • @specialtrees237
      @specialtrees237 3 місяці тому +3

      As someone who does have autism and researched those reshoots this back in April, I'm doing well. I love the part of realizing behind the scenes information, and afterward wondering why the hell such weird things happened lol.
      The more comedically subtle changes I noticed aren't highlighted due to just how many happened. Like, how mostly every shot of Wellsworth in Series 11 was replaced by a reshoot, and the only notable sign of this being the tree looking different. Or one shot from Thomas and the Stinky Cheese, where the gravel around the tracks changes compared to the rest of the scene, as well as the changed trees. The clouds, trees and background dressing are the usual giveaways for reshoots If you look for 'em.
      So, yes, it is fun noticing and documenting such stupidly little details that no one else cares about. Been thinking if I wanna do videos talking about those little details and other lesser known Thomas stuff (ex. Series 3's connection to Shining Time Stations' 2nd season, other Thomas reshoots, the gold mine of small details that is TUGS)

    • @romacechina
      @romacechina 3 місяці тому +6

      @@NitroIndigo Not very good overall, at least in the UK as Autism wasn't an official diagnosis until 1994. so a lot of autistic people didn't get help in school, autistic adults, who had no idea of their autism diagnosis were often written off, struggled or were put into homes, places where they were often, ill-treated, forgotten, etc.
      Being autistic myself, Thomas was the first work of fiction to appeal to me, not so much because it was about trains (I'm not into trains at all outside of Thomas). But because of the way the models brought the characters, story to life with the visuals being static, smooth that was very calming and allowed me to relax, the facials helped me to learn about different emotions, states. The narrator voiceover made it easy to follow what was happening, and to laugh at many of the comedy bits.
      Along with also because compared to other kid series at the time, it felt more in-depth, and had a lot going on that I picked up even as a young kid.
      Plus the music by Mike and Junior brought a real sense of wonder, passion that has stuck with me since in how music can and does play a vital role in helping a work stand out, whether it be in serious moments, setting the mood, carrying the emotions or lightening up the scene with comedy etc.
      Least that's my own experience and views.

  • @thesudriana016
    @thesudriana016 3 місяці тому +25

    Thomas and the Magic Railroad is actually the first time they used actual performers (okay, w/ the exception of Really Useful Engine for they reused the kids' chorus, but they had an actual performer w/ them), so The Great Discovery marks the second time from this point onwards in the show they used this trend.

  • @AppalachianRailfan99
    @AppalachianRailfan99 3 місяці тому +32

    Gordon and Thomas’s alliance appearing here is really nice to see again. Helps me remember the old days. I LOVE Gordon feeling upset for Thomas when he breaks down

  • @justfreakingdye
    @justfreakingdye 3 місяці тому +24

    "I spent all night looking for Percy's space ship, and the airport is only half finished!" It's like those edits putting Carlin stand up over his narration in the first four seasons

  • @karenfan010
    @karenfan010 3 місяці тому +55

    31:15 honestly I like how unlike lost treasure thomas doesn’t try to deny fault and blame others like the jerkass he usually is, he knows he screwed up and there was no way out of it.

    • @joshuaW5621
      @joshuaW5621 3 місяці тому +3

      I find it weird that people give out about Topham reprimanding Thomas for his mistakes in Lost Treasure yet they have no problem with that happening in the Great Discovery despite seeming equally as bad.

    • @cinnamonmantrainsareawesom7224
      @cinnamonmantrainsareawesom7224 3 місяці тому +3

      @@joshuaW5621yeah but at least we saw Thomas have remorse for his actions that time round and try to fix his mistakes though he got distracted in the mine but you still get my point

    • @vanessasandoval96
      @vanessasandoval96 3 місяці тому

      Yeah I wish Thomas could’ve made a lie about the accident at the tower by saying Thomas : I tried to stop Stanley he wouldn’t listen I told him not to pull the trucks up the hill it’s Stanley fault it’s his idea

    • @karenfan010
      @karenfan010 3 місяці тому +5

      ⁠@@vanessasandoval96I disagree honestly because I find lying thomas to be too unlikable.
      especially this late in the season when he should know better then to tell lies to his own boss.
      the cgi series is an acceptation because it’s a different time line at least most people believe meaning cgi thomas hasn’t aged as much as model thomas.

    • @e-122psi3
      @e-122psi3 3 місяці тому +1

      Yeah, Thomas' pettiness felt kept on a leech in The Great Discovery, like it was a moment of weakness he shortly realised was an awful thing to do. Truth be told, I think The Great Discovery's direction works better after several seasons of development. He still has some ego but he's at least self aware about it.

  • @Headbanger142
    @Headbanger142 3 місяці тому +29

    Michael Brandon's KEEP AWAY!!!!! was the scariest thing I've seen in the show since James's EEEEEEEEEEE from Buzz Buzz. That was impressive. Oh boy, season 12 is next. Strap yourself in, folks.

    • @vanessasandoval96
      @vanessasandoval96 3 місяці тому +3

      Yeah for Angelis well too quiet by saying keep away
      But for Brandon on the other hand well I love the US version when he says
      Hector : 🤬KEEP AWAY

    • @tad7441
      @tad7441 3 місяці тому

      Thankfully it’ll be the shortest, right?

    • @Mattcai2004
      @Mattcai2004 3 місяці тому

      We're going to dive in the season that gave me nightmares as a child

    • @fanofeverything30465
      @fanofeverything30465 3 місяці тому

      @@tad7441 Not necessarily

    • @kevin-2.1
      @kevin-2.1 2 місяці тому +2

      How does James scaring after he got stung by a bee scary?

  • @edwinatie3198
    @edwinatie3198 2 місяці тому +6

    Seasons 12 retrospective will have a bunch of bad episodes

  • @steam-powered-cyborg
    @steam-powered-cyborg 3 місяці тому +24

    Your Aerolite based pitch on Whiff getting a riches to rags story is, funnily enough, exactly what I did in my 'Emily's Rubbish' rewrite. That's just amazing.

  • @ek9509
    @ek9509 3 місяці тому +16

    5:51: Don’t forget Season 6’s weird method of handling 16X9. The first 6 episodes are 4X3, with some shots in them being 16X9. And, then, the remaining 20 episodes are ALL widescreen.

  • @guyk768
    @guyk768 3 місяці тому +44

    I loved how The Great Discovery expanded on the lore of Sodor with Great Waterton.

  • @TheRedStinger82
    @TheRedStinger82 3 місяці тому +26

    This is the best season to come out of the HiT era in my opinion.
    I also have a soft spot for the great discovery. I remember seeing it when it came out

  • @Ryder-a-Blaze
    @Ryder-a-Blaze 3 місяці тому +33

    “All the narrow gauge engines appear here” except Duke

    • @joshuaW5621
      @joshuaW5621 3 місяці тому +4

      Also some of the Pack are absent too.

    • @spyfan62591
      @spyfan62591 3 місяці тому +2

      Good thing I'd say.

    • @stinkyroadhog1347
      @stinkyroadhog1347 3 місяці тому +13

      @@spyfan62591 Duke being ruined in the Hit era would never suit his Grace!

    • @dabluepittoo-aqua4213
      @dabluepittoo-aqua4213 3 місяці тому +4

      & Bertrum. . .and Smudger.

    • @vanessasandoval96
      @vanessasandoval96 3 місяці тому +1

      Yeah I wish Duke could’ve been in the HiT era he could’ve been in the narrow gauge engines songs

  • @razvandobos9759
    @razvandobos9759 3 місяці тому +11

    Series 1: Complete
    Series 2: Innovative
    Series 3: Big
    Series 4: Comfy
    Series 5: Peak
    Series 6: Cute
    Series 7: Eye of the Storm
    Series 8: Milqetoast
    Series 9: Peaks and Valleys
    Series 10: Drawn Out
    Series 11: Routine
    Now what would be the word to define The Great Discovery?

    • @Avery_Productions
      @Avery_Productions Місяць тому +1

      Wonderful is the word I would describe the great discovery but Breath Of Fresh air would be good as a phrase

  • @oliverjroebuck
    @oliverjroebuck 3 місяці тому +10

    Isn't the purpose of Thomas and James are racing to end with Thomas being second, and then as a result finding Great Waterton?

    • @joshuaW5621
      @joshuaW5621 3 місяці тому

      It doesn’t feel like it.

  • @GothRailfan
    @GothRailfan 3 місяці тому +5

    37:08 "I have nothing to say about Billy really. I don't think his character is interesting at all, and he was clearly never meant to go far."
    *Billy S T O P S*

  • @jeremykrane4855
    @jeremykrane4855 3 місяці тому +5

    *STOP TELLING ME WHAT TO DO THOMAS*
    *YOU ARE A VERY B O S S Y ENGINE*

  • @TobyOliverHenryFan
    @TobyOliverHenryFan 3 місяці тому +19

    29:52 Idk, Thomas blowing that boot off his smokebox is quite funny. Especially how you can see it falling into the void in the background.

    • @vincentsowell2314
      @vincentsowell2314 3 місяці тому +4

      He's like: *F#**#k** off! You're ruining my career!*

    • @fanofeverything30465
      @fanofeverything30465 2 місяці тому

      ​@@vincentsowell2314Thomas: Fuck off HiT! You're ruining my career! Do I really have to do these learning statements again?
      Edward: At least they're only a bonus feature this time
      Thomas: I know but I still don't like them
      Edward: Neither do I but we'll just have to make the best of a bad situation

  • @AvatarAidan
    @AvatarAidan 3 місяці тому +20

    Lowkey, kind of expected Gordon to get the MVP Award, since he alongside James are the more consistint characters in the Hit Era. They're Episodes really are the standout.

    • @shivamkamil1581
      @shivamkamil1581 3 місяці тому +2

      I expect Gordon to get it in S12. Because really, who else could it be?

    • @robertrowley4929
      @robertrowley4929 3 місяці тому +2

      @@shivamkamil1581you’ve got a point there.

  • @Remnant09
    @Remnant09 3 місяці тому +11

    I think the Thomas and Stanley Rivalry was inspired by Toy Story.

  • @herochris1221
    @herochris1221 3 місяці тому +27

    Season 11 has some classic in terms of a handful of good episodes and it felt like a significant improvement than 9 and 10. The Great Discovery will always my favorite Thomas movie and it was like the last hurrah of the model series which brings me back to love nostalgia!

    • @herochris1221
      @herochris1221 3 місяці тому

      @@CelticRailwayTraveller not really, it just should’ve been better if many of the the episodes centered around jobs, then messes up things, and everything was fine would’ve been removed. 9 has good stuff with slight improvements of production, but it got fallen apart when character flanderization started (looking at you narrow guage engine childs…)

    • @herochris1221
      @herochris1221 3 місяці тому

      @@CelticRailwayTraveller 8 was a pretty good start of the hit era and it felt like more potential of classic in terms of writing and the characters. Only problems is the mediocre production where almost all locations were always grass and trees

    • @herochris1221
      @herochris1221 3 місяці тому +1

      ⁠@@CelticRailwayTraveller If I were to make 11 better than 8, then I would’ve give two spotlight episodes to Molly and Mighty Mac to pretty much expand their characterization since their first debut from Season 9 even though it’s unfortunate that they got written out of the show and also removing Thomas and the Big Bang (even though it had good crashes), Percy and the Left Luggage, Smoke and Mirrors, Don’t be Silly Billy, Thomas and the Stinky Cheese, Thomas and the Lighthouse, Sir Handel in Charge, Ding-a-ling, and Skarloey Storms Through which all of these ones I don’t tend to watch are bad.

    • @fanofeverything30465
      @fanofeverything30465 3 місяці тому

      The Great Discovery is my Thomas film too

    • @herochris1221
      @herochris1221 3 місяці тому +1

      @@fanofeverything30465 same

  • @Iron_Blood_Enjoyer1933
    @Iron_Blood_Enjoyer1933 3 місяці тому +9

    40:28 Which I find rather odd, as Billy (And Charlie later on) are based on the Manning Wardle L class. Meanwhile, Stanley is of Hudswell Clarke origin.
    If they had made Stanley onto a larger tank engine, like a SR Z class 0-8-0 tank engine or a GCR 9N/LNER A5 class 4-6-2 tank engine, then all the larger and stronger than Thomas talk would be justified.

    • @liladoodle
      @liladoodle 3 місяці тому +2

      Even better, an LNER Thompson L1 2-6-4 tank.

    • @Avery_Productions
      @Avery_Productions Місяць тому +1

      I personally headcannon Stanley as the SR Z Class

  • @IsleofPigsStudios
    @IsleofPigsStudios 3 місяці тому +5

    48:46 I feel like the US DVD of Engines and Escapades is worse. Sure the cover is better, but the menus are terrible. Only three menus, none are the episode selection, and one is dedicated to a completely different show. They dedicated a menu to the bonus episode but not the Thomas ones?

  • @vanguardRailgun924
    @vanguardRailgun924 3 місяці тому +19

    Getting Pierce to narrate was honestly the best thing Hit ever did and it’s a shame it didn’t stick.

  • @BlueTheCharredGuy22
    @BlueTheCharredGuy22 3 місяці тому +13

    the great discovery was truly a great thing that the hit era made tbh. almost everything else is crap. the great discovery and season 11 was the true finale for the model series. season 12 used cgi. very amazing send off

  • @IsleofPigsStudios
    @IsleofPigsStudios 3 місяці тому +5

    Oh dear. We all know that Series 12 is next. Brace yourselves, we’re gonna be hitting a lot of crap.

  • @drstain09
    @drstain09 3 місяці тому +22

    The great discovery is genuinely one of my favorite movies if not THE favorite thomas for me :D

  • @GoofyCharizard
    @GoofyCharizard 3 місяці тому +9

    Well looks like he passed Usual Bloke Luke

  • @JamestheParodyMaker7446
    @JamestheParodyMaker7446 2 місяці тому +8

    1:42 One notable thing about the new version of the Roll Call. in the S8-10 version, Edward was pulling the breakdown train. In the S11 version, hes now pulling Rocky.

  • @callum110597
    @callum110597 3 місяці тому +10

    I have wonderful memories of The Great Discovery, so I'm glad I watched that a lot more than series 11, which I didn't see all of. And I have to say Pierce Brosnan is a pretty good narrator! 🙂 I've really gotta watch the good episodes, but wow, they were re-shot? I never knew that! Nor the yellow tint on the screen.😮 Great work explaining it all, Nic. I appreciate it, even crediting everybody else going into concept and footage of Pierce Brosnan reading Thomas to his children. 👍

  • @iceeblueburst03
    @iceeblueburst03 2 місяці тому +6

    Oh boy, here comes the Season 12 retrospective coming soon.....

  • @frogmouth2
    @frogmouth2 3 місяці тому +10

    I think Stanley never got an episode focused on him because he was always built to be this Ned Flanders type.
    Typically a Simpsons episode with Ned would be about homer realizing he’s fine not being where Ned is or how he shouldn’t hate Ned because he’s more successful in every aspect of his life.

  • @Steamenginesunited3456
    @Steamenginesunited3456 3 місяці тому +19

    PBS Retro has honestly made me appreciate many season 11 episodes a lot more.

  • @TheNumbersGuy-bm6bt
    @TheNumbersGuy-bm6bt 3 місяці тому +12

    Nick's Favorite episode of each season:
    Season 1: The Flying Kipper
    Season 2: Edward's Exploit
    Season 3: Escape
    Season 4: Special Funnel
    Season 5: Duncan Gets Spooked
    Season 6: No Sleep for Cranky
    Season 7: Gordon and Spencer
    JATP: Thomas' Trusty Friends
    Season 8: Squeak, Rattle, and Roll
    Season 9: Respect for Gordon
    Season 10: James the Second Best
    Season 11: Gordon and the Engineer

    • @Avery_Productions
      @Avery_Productions Місяць тому +1

      Notice that Season 10 is the only season in the hit era to not be a Gordon Epsidoe

  • @NitroIndigo
    @NitroIndigo 3 місяці тому +19

    Pierce Brosnan sounds like he's doing ASMR.

    • @robbycastelli6486
      @robbycastelli6486 3 місяці тому +1

      Pierce Brosnan is the best narrator in the entire wide world

    • @Mattcai2004
      @Mattcai2004 Місяць тому

      @NitroIndigo your comment was mentioned on TV Tropes

    • @NitroIndigo
      @NitroIndigo Місяць тому

      @@Mattcai2004 I saw.

  • @caboose.20
    @caboose.20 3 місяці тому +11

    Actually the reason for the yellow tint was HiT wanted to appeal to Mexican viewers, so they edited it in so the show would feel more familiar to them.

    • @sfan-sx1ub
      @sfan-sx1ub 3 місяці тому +1

      They should’ve removed the yellow tint in the night scenes or fog and the Winter Episodes because it makes the snow look warm

    • @pcb1175
      @pcb1175 3 місяці тому +1

      Ah, the breaking bad method of being in Mexico

    • @fanofeverything30465
      @fanofeverything30465 2 місяці тому +2

      @@caboose.20 You're making that up

  • @jaredpower1019
    @jaredpower1019 2 місяці тому +5

    I swear as a kid back in the 2000s when I saw season 11 on pbs kids and the yellow tint they added it almost look like it was an early morning on sodor

  • @lilr117nascar
    @lilr117nascar 3 місяці тому +3

    can't wait till season 14 says and misty island where he is going to curse at the screen for 10 minutes

  • @scp-zilla5303
    @scp-zilla5303 3 місяці тому +10

    Gordon got snubbed of an MVP
    That’s all I’m saying

  • @thegermanofsodor
    @thegermanofsodor 3 місяці тому +6

    Engines and Escapades was actually one of my favourite DVDs as a kid.
    Granted i didn't know what true quality was as a kid sooooooooo.
    Also kinda ironic how they went to the whole effort of switching to HD for filming yet to date, the HD masters of S11 haven't been released.

  • @matheusproductions.
    @matheusproductions. 3 місяці тому +13

    Gordon and the engineer is a peak episode from season 11, no cap.

  • @tanyax5827
    @tanyax5827 3 місяці тому +6

    For the rest of the model series snd the Brenner era, I’m going to make predictions on what the episodes, the mvp, and word(s) are. (I’m avoiding the miller era and BWBA because I don’t have the energy to watch them) Anyways, here we go.
    Standout: Hector the Horrid
    Worst: Edward and the Mail
    Sum-up: Thomas and the Runaway Car
    Favorite: Gordon and the Engineer
    MVP: Thomas (I know he’s overused in this era, but he has some good moments this season)
    Word: Bittersweet

  • @margogoralski6294
    @margogoralski6294 3 місяці тому +12

    The Unlucky Tug never disappoints, even when the season he's covering does. Farewell to the all-model era. I have been really anticipating this episode, and how perfect that it came out just in time for when I'm about to embark on a long-awaited family road trip to the west. Can't wait for what's to come, especially for Season 12 with those terrifying faces, both digital and off-camera. Eek.

  • @NickelNation5190
    @NickelNation5190 3 місяці тому +11

    Did anyone catch, that Tug changed his opinion on Stanley, he actually said he didn’t care for Stanley in the every movie ranking vid! I guess opinions do change

  • @Louie-WanKenobi-og4rk
    @Louie-WanKenobi-og4rk 3 місяці тому +6

    46:46 I wonder if someone's going to remake Cool Truckings into a Season 4 or 5 episode, because since you said that Madge is like a mother character in the HiT era, maybe she can work in Season 4 to mentor Sir Handel or Duncan alongside Skarloey.
    53:34 New Sodor's Finest? WOOOOOOOO YEAH BABY THAT'S WHAT I'VE BEEN WAITING FOR, THAT'S WHAT IT'S ALL ABOUT!

    • @Avery_Productions
      @Avery_Productions Місяць тому +1

      In my rewritten version of wash behind your buffers I have sir Handel and Peter Sam instead of Skarloey and Rheneas

  • @doctorwhosit3896
    @doctorwhosit3896 3 місяці тому +8

    48:10 I respectfully disagree, Sir Handel is pretty in character in this episode. This is basically Classic Sir Handel. I argue this episodes also basically a relaxing slice of life episode. This episode basically takes a break from all the crashes. I also loved the Engines and Escapades DVD, I’m a person of loves the DVD.

    • @joshuaW5621
      @joshuaW5621 3 місяці тому +1

      Plus it follows his character growth from the last season (which is rare in this era).

    • @fanofeverything30465
      @fanofeverything30465 2 місяці тому +1

      ​@@joshuaW5621Kind of a mixture of both episodes

    • @Avery_Productions
      @Avery_Productions Місяць тому +1

      I think unlucky tug is talking out how the narrator describes sir Handel at the begging of the Episode

    • @doctorwhosit3896
      @doctorwhosit3896 Місяць тому

      @@Avery_Productions No, he’s saying nothing happens when something does.

    • @Avery_Productions
      @Avery_Productions Місяць тому

      @@doctorwhosit3896 I personally think the episode is too repetitive

  • @ThomasSirHandel
    @ThomasSirHandel 3 місяці тому +9

    Emily's Rubbish is like that episode where karma finally reaches her bad deeds from the Hit era and in the CGI series she gets better.

  • @robertmugno927
    @robertmugno927 3 місяці тому +4

    I will bet Season 12 will be a mess to talk about.

  • @Vince_No.-54
    @Vince_No.-54 3 місяці тому +17

    The Great Discovery is one of the best movies.
    Change my mind

    • @IsleofPigsStudios
      @IsleofPigsStudios 3 місяці тому +2

      I can’t. I love it too. Top 3 for me personally.

    • @joshuaW5621
      @joshuaW5621 3 місяці тому +2

      I think it’s hilarious how some manchildren on the internet complain that Topham is too mean to Thomas in Sodor’s Legend of the Lost Treasure, yet they praise the Great Discovery despite Topham also getting upset with him in this movie when he does something similar to what made Topham get mad at him in SLOTLT. I swear this fandom can be so hypocritical sometimes.

    • @dylanlyles9453
      @dylanlyles9453 2 місяці тому +1

      @@joshuaW5621 That's kind of a few problems I have with both, I think Topham was fine in Lost Treasure, but it was kinda stupid of him to think Rocky was the one who found the pirate ship even though Thomas was the one who fell into the cavern. And I think Thomas' crew should have more significance to the stories.

    • @fanofeverything30465
      @fanofeverything30465 2 місяці тому +1

      ​@@joshuaW5621What do you mean sometimes

    • @fanofeverything30465
      @fanofeverything30465 2 місяці тому

      I can't It's my favourite Thomas film

  • @rapidice70
    @rapidice70 3 місяці тому +7

    Every season's MVP so far,
    Season 1: Henry
    Season 2: Edward
    Season 3: Duck
    Season 4: Peter Sam
    Season 5: Sir Topham Hatt
    Season 6: Percy
    Season 7: Arthur
    Jack and the Pack: Oliver(digger)
    Season 8: Emily
    Season 9: Percy
    Season 10: James
    Season 11: THOMAS
    I was wondering if he was ever gonna get an MVP, and here it is.😊
    Any predictions for Season 12? Probably the hardest to predict since many characters that were forgotten did return and most episodes were (to my memory) terrible.

    • @shivamkamil1581
      @shivamkamil1581 3 місяці тому

      Gordon. Who else could it be?

    • @rapidice70
      @rapidice70 3 місяці тому

      @shivamkamil1581 How come? All I can think of is Gordon takes a shortcut.

    • @shivamkamil1581
      @shivamkamil1581 3 місяці тому

      @@rapidice70 The only others who could get it in S12 may be James and Emily, but he's already given it to them in S8 and 10, and I think he'd want Gordon to have it at some point.

    • @Wildcatt1999
      @Wildcatt1999 3 місяці тому

      My guess is Fearless Freddie. Cuz he has some kind of important role in three episodes, ig? He plans a surprise party for Colin in, well, Party Surprise (I think what it's called), he helped Thomas find the "Man in The Hill", and he takes the Proteus statue to the ceremony.

    • @fanofeverything30465
      @fanofeverything30465 2 місяці тому

      @@Wildcatt1999 It's called The Party Surprise

  • @JamestheParodyMaker7446
    @JamestheParodyMaker7446 3 місяці тому +15

    The End of The Great Discovery was perfect, it felt like a true goodbye to the full model Thomas, with all the engines together, celebrating a joyful occasion. The absolute perfect sendoff the models before CGI was incorporated into the show

    • @vanessasandoval96
      @vanessasandoval96 3 місяці тому +2

      Yeah after season 12 best friends the last model/CGI animation the new Movie Hiro Rails was the first cgi animation of Thomas

    • @kcore1427
      @kcore1427 3 місяці тому +3

      If only the show could have ended there.

    • @DavidBContentExtravaganza3967
      @DavidBContentExtravaganza3967 3 місяці тому +4

      @@kcore1427 Then we wouldn't have gotten Thomas in CGI which looks so good and the Brenner era bringing back better character portrayals for the most part and good writing in the show once again from 2013 to 2017 which we were very happy for back then. It was too popular to end at that time in 2008 so good thing it continues.

    • @battletrainer2495
      @battletrainer2495 2 місяці тому +2

      Season 12 is very forgettable you can pretty much just skip that season and it would be like you’re not missing anything?

  • @GuyKnowles
    @GuyKnowles 3 місяці тому +3

    I'll never Understand why Stanley never got a lead role after the Great Discovery. He (more or less) served his purpose in that Special yet they kept him in the show and in the CGI era where is voice was inconsistant. Almost every main male voice actor from Keith Wickham, Matt Wilkinson, Rob Rackstraw, David Menkin and so on voiced him.

    • @LimpBizkitMix
      @LimpBizkitMix 2 місяці тому

      It’s like whenever Sharon Miller got the script and saw Stanley in it she just went to whichever VA was closest to her in the recording studio

  • @SonicJrandSarah
    @SonicJrandSarah 3 місяці тому +6

    Fun fact, when I first saw the title of the Season 7 episode, The Runaway Elephant, I was expecting it to be an actual elephant that was running away. But then when I watched the episode and we found out it was a statue, the plot of Thomas and the Runaway Car was what I thought we'd be getting for that one.

  • @cloudyscotts8470
    @cloudyscotts8470 3 місяці тому +6

    The great discovery has always been my favorite film as it's the only good thomas film I got on dvd

  • @CakeKingYT
    @CakeKingYT 3 місяці тому +24

    *SPOILERS!!!!!*
    OMG THOMAS GOT THE MVP WHAAAAAAAT?!?!?!?! Congrats Mr. Blue Choo Choo you’ve done it!

  • @jmredguppy2799
    @jmredguppy2799 3 місяці тому +6

    Congratulations for Thomas to finally get the MVP Award✨
    Season 11: it was an okay season, not quite the best for a final all model season in my opinion, but it still has its moments:)
    The Great Discovery: ABSOLUTELY ENJOYABLE!!!!
    It can’t be an understatement how the production team went *ALL OUT* with this special! You have a great story and nice characterization of Thomas, but the fact Almost all the Standard Gauge engines appear, Narrow Gauge engines, Jack and the Pack Appears, so many new sets and props, even something as simple as having cameo appearances of characters we haven’t seen a lot of, to think they could’ve just cobble together something half ass and just call it a day but NOPE, they made a celebratory special to mark the end of a Era that had begun in 1984!
    Answer for the Thomas and James Racing song: I think the point of the song is to show just HOW FAR the 2 raced across the Island to reach the Narrow Gauge Railway up in the mountains. This isn’t like how in episodes where they get there in like a couple of seconds of screen time, No, they had to travel a great distance at high speed to get there, and it clearly shows seeing how when they finally reach it, James’ cheeks were blushing red from exhaustion.

  • @leonardobarbosatelles2779
    @leonardobarbosatelles2779 3 місяці тому +11

    Whiff gives me a serious Kyle’s causing Kyle vibe. Every time Emily tries to loose him he comes back to her annoyance, much like Kyle’s cousin Kyle in South Park

    • @joshuaW5621
      @joshuaW5621 3 місяці тому +1

      By Kyle’s causing Kyle do you mean Kyle’s cousin Kyle?

    • @leonardobarbosatelles2779
      @leonardobarbosatelles2779 3 місяці тому +1

      @@joshuaW5621 yes, Kyle’s cousin Kyle himself

  • @robbycastelli6486
    @robbycastelli6486 2 місяці тому +5

    Madge spraying the police man in snow is so funny. I can’t stop laughing at all.

  • @emersoninfinitystone5785
    @emersoninfinitystone5785 3 місяці тому +9

    9:05 *"Sodor looks more post-apocalyptic."* That is such a hard hitting line to hear after just coming off reading the absolutely emotional fan-fiction "The Island's Swansong" written by The Knight Train on Wattpad.
    One of the best things about The Great Discovery for me was in the marketing. I still remember the joy on my face in 2008 when i first got the DVD on Christmas, not just because i was excited about owning the new movie, but the case itself was in a special "Gold" plastic with metallic finish. I still have it mint condition. It just made this movie feel all the more magical, and i think what makes it so special is that i believe it's the only DVD release anywhere to ever come with such a unique case. Really it was a great move... what better way to symbolise the end of the model series then by having the all final production literally gift wrapped to us in gold, because HIT knew that's what they'd struck.
    Season 11 while meh for the most part is defiantly a noticeable upgrade from Season 10, not only do i like how it retains Thomas & Gordon's alliance, most the episodes i honestly can't bring myself to hate for just how silly they are in concept, i really love that Micheal Angelis gave Billy a scouse accent; much like himself being Liverpudlian it's rather fitting. Plus this season has unquestionably Thomas' best smiling face mask since Season 4, something about just screams Awdry perfect. If i had to nitpick anything minor though it'd be in *Emily's Rubbish* how Emily can't move 6 trucks on her own?, granted she was trying to reverse on top a set of points which would've added to the slipping, combine that with the fact the Stirling Singles actually had traction issues in real life, it gives a pretty logical reason for her struggling, a nice hidden detail you might say.

  • @cz.gazz.
    @cz.gazz. 3 місяці тому +8

    Watching this retrospective whilst on holiday to the UK, having just taken a ride on Dolgoch at Talyllyn the other day for the first time. The vibes are real

    • @joshuaW5621
      @joshuaW5621 3 місяці тому +1

      Ooh, I hope you’re having a fun trip on the Talyllyn.

  • @ryanfuller912
    @ryanfuller912 3 місяці тому +2

    The last good to okay season, until Season 17, cause I can tell you that we are not going to enjoy the Season 12-16 retrospectives.

  • @thomasfan0123
    @thomasfan0123 3 місяці тому +4

    The reason Gwneth Paltrow didnt do the movie ia because she needed some work whilst they were getting things ready for Iron Man and so she was going to take the job. Allefedly she didnt get it due to her accent, i do not have a solid source on my claim however Iron Man is the reason she didnt narrate and honnestly thats a good thing.

  • @funnyhappystudios
    @funnyhappystudios 3 місяці тому +7

    Michael Brandon Henry wants to be Mr. DNA from Jurassic Park so badly 😂

  • @SodorEnginesFanatic
    @SodorEnginesFanatic 3 місяці тому +17

    Yeah!!! Thomas got MVP finally. I honestly have a feeling that Thomas will also get the MVP award in season 12 since he still maintains his same personality as this season

    • @samsea0489
      @samsea0489 Місяць тому

      Unlikely

    • @SodorEnginesFanatic
      @SodorEnginesFanatic Місяць тому

      @@samsea0489 why do you say that?

    • @samsea0489
      @samsea0489 Місяць тому

      @@SodorEnginesFanatic Because Thomas is depicted the same way he was in S8-S11

  • @TDRyan
    @TDRyan 3 місяці тому +9

    I screamed lol when this notification appeared.
    You're videos are amazing keep up the AMAZING work!

  • @Krafty_Official
    @Krafty_Official 3 місяці тому +13

    Me personally I love how they made Stanley in Hit era

  • @primrosevale1995
    @primrosevale1995 3 місяці тому +8

    Great Waterton is so fun to headcanon for, especially for fitting it into a Railway Series world. I’ve created an entire railway for it in my headcanon that lasted between the S&M and the NWR, and made that quarry near Rheneas into a version of the Blue Mountain Quarry.

  • @stuartbarclay7940
    @stuartbarclay7940 3 місяці тому +4

    Just like Season 8 and Season 9 (And the whole of the HiT-Era in general), Season 11 is really underrated.
    This season, along with the Great Discovery, feels like a series finale in a way.
    My favourite episode of Season 11 would be Hector the Horrid. It has a great message to teach. Hector is also an interesting character, he wasn't trying to be a bully or anything, he was only acting Horrid because he was scared of being filled with coal (Since he was a brand new truck and had no experience of it). Not to mention, the scene where Thomas stood up to Hector was really badass! I wished that he did that again to a certain controller in SLOTLT....
    For my least favourite episode, it would be Skarloey Storms Through. Although, there are two ways the episode could have worked better. The first idea would have been to have it set during Skarloey and Rheneas' younger years. The second idea would have Ivo Hugh in Skarloey's role. Either way, it could have made the episode.
    Unpopular opinion: I actually like the episode Don't Be Silly Billy (But I respect other people's opinions). I understand why many people have problems with it, however I think that there's a lot more to the episode.
    First, remember how Thomas was handled in Season 1? He was fussy, hot-headed and impatient. Now, he's more mature despise still being cheeky and fussy.
    Now, have a look at Billy. He's hot-headed, fussy and impatient. Basically, Billy is the new Thomas!
    Also, my guess as to why Billy is so stubborn is maybe he was pushed around one too many times by other engines on his old railway, which could explain as to why he refuses Thomas' help until the end.
    Billy has so much great potential, they could have made more episodes involving him. For example, they could have had an episode with Billy paired with James, or an episode of Billy dealing with the diesels or maybe an adaption of the RWS story Cab Over Wheels with Billy in the role of Sixteen.
    Personally, I think that Billy (Along with Duck, Donald, Douglas, Oliver, Stanley, Rosie, Murdoch, Neville, Molly and Lady) should have joined the Steam Team. Say what you will about him, but at least they give him flaws, unlike... *Cough-Cough* Nia and Rebecca...
    Mind you, I will admit that perhaps the episode could have worked a LITTLE better if they swapped Thomas' role with Fergus. Now, that would have been interesting to see how he and Billy would have interacted. Too bad Fergus' model was damaged after the episode Bill, Ben and Fergus...
    Also, I think that James should have Thomas' role in Thomas and the Stinky Cheese (Given his distaste for diesels).
    As for The Great Discovery, it is a fantastic send-off to the models (Or a nice Series Finale movie if you're not a fan of CGI)!
    Pierce Brosnan's narration is amazing!
    Great Waterton is also a very interesting location! Pity we never get to see it again after Season 12...
    Plus, the songs are so memorable! I really like how they included Stanley in the Engine Roll Call, which, in my opinion, is a lot than better the Engine Roll Call in S22-24.

  • @Avery_Productions
    @Avery_Productions 3 місяці тому +4

    I do agree about the side characters getting more focus, I honestly think they should ditch the steam team and the narrow gauge engines and give all of these characters lead roles

  • @Ryder-a-Blaze
    @Ryder-a-Blaze 3 місяці тому +24

    I honestly wouldn’t of minded if Thomas had ended after The Great Discovery, it definitely felt like a grand finally.

    • @DavidBContentExtravaganza3967
      @DavidBContentExtravaganza3967 3 місяці тому +2

      Then we wouldn't have the CGI series which Thomas looks good at as well as the Brenner era returning good writing and proper character portrayals in the show after so long. It was too popular to end at the time so they continue it to begin a new start til Season 24.

  • @SrMechaGojira93
    @SrMechaGojira93 3 місяці тому +6

    And thus concludes ‘All-Model’ Thomas. What a train ride (pun intended).
    I don’t think I mentioned this until now, but here goes - Steve Asquith and Michael Angelis weren’t the only veterans from ‘Classic’ Thomas to stick around after season 7, *David Eves* (character model maker) and *Terence Permane* (director of photography) also stuck around until the end of the model series.
    I can’t believe you overlooked Angelis’ best James line from this season (“Ugh! No, thank you!”).
    Top 10
    1. Hector the Horrid
    2. Gordon and the Engineer
    3. Cool Truckings
    4. Dirty Work
    5. Emily’s Rubbish
    6. The Runaway Car
    7. Thomas in Trouble
    8. Duncan Does it All
    9. Ding-A-Ling
    10. Wash Behind Your Buffers
    Guilty pleasures:
    * Thomas Sets Sail (yes, it’s a pretty mundane episode, but I can’t help having a soft spot for it. The sailboat prop alone is amazing.)
    * Hide & Peep (at least it’s nice to see Cranky be involved in some capacity)
    Newbie medalists:
    🥇 Hector
    🥈 Madge
    🥉 Whiff - he (and Rocky) ironically had it better in later seasons and even appears in the *dumpster fire* reboot; Rosie was robbed *(twice)* and Stanley … well, read below
    ua-cam.com/video/Uwt_JrAVA64/v-deo.htmlsi=sk40tGNwlgc0PqBu - wish granted
    TGD was a satisfying conclusion to the beloved model series. And for what it’s worth, it was an experience that I’ll never forget. It was the last thing my grandmother ever saw with me and my brother (before she passed away).
    Really enjoyed Pierce Brosnan’s narration as well. While I wish he did a little more, his role was solid 👍🏻.
    Despite appearing for 11 years (and is due for a Bachmann model soon), *I* still believe Stanley deserves so much more, so much better *and* a starring role!!! Ryan’s fine and all, but they should’ve beef up Stanley *just a little more!*
    Season 8 - Milquetoast
    Season 9 - Peaks & Valleys
    Season 10 - Drawn Out
    Season 11 - Routine

  • @whitelionstudios1786
    @whitelionstudios1786 3 місяці тому +10

    "I've spent all night looking for Percy's Spaceship and the Airport is only half finished" is probably one of the best transitions I have seen between two completely different episodes or such

  • @EngineShedStudios
    @EngineShedStudios 3 місяці тому +7

    The Great Discovery was THE Thomas movie as a kid. A lot of my fondness for it is probably childhood nostalgia, but they really went all out with it. The Rolling River Bridge collapse, and the mine chase, and of course the Sodor Day celebration at the end, are just so damn wonderful. I actually rewatched the season in full a few months back, and I agree with the better episodes being grouped at the start. Reality set in really quick afterwards lol. Another banger retrospective tug! Definitely excited for the next one!

  • @RJ-Makes-Things
    @RJ-Makes-Things 3 місяці тому +6

    BRO! This is my day! My bachmann Edward just came in and now this! I am living good

  • @themistakeisintentional-dn5df
    @themistakeisintentional-dn5df 3 місяці тому +3

    The infamous "piss filter" was used in literally everything in and around the early, mid, and late 2000's it seems. I don't know why it was such a trend in every movie, tv show, and video game to make everything yellow around this time period. I guess it was like a cheap method of making scenes look more """realistic""" I suppose??