I agree with you Patricia and I respect this perspective greatly! One thing I would like to add is that often (in my experience) the pathologising comes from the patients and not from us. I have a patient who I'd been working with for a year (thinking I was helping) who told me one day that her GP told her she had BPD and this explained all her struggles, she seemed disappointed with me that I hadn't diagnosed her as such, and from then on really framed herself as "BPD"... and it just seemed to me that it made her weaker. I was thrown by this experience. Also I have so many clients tell me they have ADHD or autism and these are the reasons they can't do things (I'm sure you experience this too) and I'm the one trying to focus on their potential and strengths, while they argue for pathology... This seems like an epidemic not just caused by mental health professionals and institutions, but something in the zeitgeist where diagnoses are seductive, and every human variation is a "disorder". I think it's complex, because ironically these disorders create identities which lead to pseudo-communities (mostly online) where people connect through their shared "disorders". Which I think can alleviate loneliness in a time of extreme social disconnection! I'm sure you're aware of all this - just wanted to add it to the conversation :) Love your work. - Beccy.
While I have not had this experience myself, I don't doubt it's happening all the time. There are many influences combining to create these identities through diagnoses. Carolyn Myss calls it woundology. I would suggest reading Bad Therapy, which lays some of the responsibility on. the mental health profession.
It is amazing and so sad that so many learn therapy from the pathologic stance or the general and unspecific stance, there is so much resistance from therapists to meet the person rather than the defenses and label people with Ptsd or other labels. Thank you for hanging in there for so long and bringing the istdp potential therapy so hopefully this will be the norm!
I listened to a talk on depression and started to feel depressed. Then I turned to talks on Buddhism instead and felt supported and got strong again. Your talk is excellent.
Hi Patricia. Thank you for another amazing video. You mentioned you are following some Journals regularly and was wondering which ones you would recommed for us ISTDP therapists. Thank you
You are a therapist first so keeping abreast of the literature on psychotherapy process and outcome is essential. I am a Psychologist so I get The American Psychology, Monitor on Psychology and subscribe to the journal Psychotherapy and Journal of Consulting and Clinical Psychology. Peruse a number of them and determine which seems best for your own needs.
This important distinction between deficit based lens vs strength based lens is great. It reminds me of a Buddhist psychoanalyst named Dr. Edward Podvall. He introduced and talked about “Islands of Clarity”, a term to describe 5 signs, or “markers of sanity” of a client (opposed to the typical markers of insanity/pathology that are often found in documents such as the DSM). He noted the 5 are: 1. Repulsion 2. Transcendence of the self 3. Discipline 4. Compassion 5. Courage (See Dr. Danielle Knafo’s beautiful explanation of each of these in greater detail - ua-cam.com/video/TitLmvY6tis/v-deo.html , and here ua-cam.com/video/i26yCP0GL2M/v-deo.html )
I am not quite sure what you are asking here. He often spoke to the patient of their potential and was ambitious and trying to achieve full resolution of the patient's core neurotic conflict, freeing him to live an authentic life.
@@patriciacoughlinphd1852 thank you, that’s actually answered my question. The full resolution of the core neurotic conflict so that they are free to live an authentic life.
Thanks a lot for your Videos! Which psychological Journals you recommend to read? I live in Germany und I look always hier, but I can't find that good one. Thanks again.
I read the American Psychologist, Psychotherapy: Theory, Research and Practice, and Journal of Consulting and Clinical Psychology. All can be purchased through apa.org
Of course, it varies person to person but, in my experience, many master's level clinicians have not been trained to conduct and understand research. Good on you for keeping up with the literature.
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I agree with you Patricia and I respect this perspective greatly! One thing I would like to add is that often (in my experience) the pathologising comes from the patients and not from us. I have a patient who I'd been working with for a year (thinking I was helping) who told me one day that her GP told her she had BPD and this explained all her struggles, she seemed disappointed with me that I hadn't diagnosed her as such, and from then on really framed herself as "BPD"... and it just seemed to me that it made her weaker. I was thrown by this experience. Also I have so many clients tell me they have ADHD or autism and these are the reasons they can't do things (I'm sure you experience this too) and I'm the one trying to focus on their potential and strengths, while they argue for pathology...
This seems like an epidemic not just caused by mental health professionals and institutions, but something in the zeitgeist where diagnoses are seductive, and every human variation is a "disorder". I think it's complex, because ironically these disorders create identities which lead to pseudo-communities (mostly online) where people connect through their shared "disorders". Which I think can alleviate loneliness in a time of extreme social disconnection! I'm sure you're aware of all this - just wanted to add it to the conversation :) Love your work. - Beccy.
While I have not had this experience myself, I don't doubt it's happening all the time. There are many influences combining to create these identities through diagnoses. Carolyn Myss calls it woundology. I would suggest reading Bad Therapy, which lays some of the responsibility on. the mental health profession.
It is amazing and so sad that so many learn therapy from the pathologic stance or the general and unspecific stance, there is so much resistance from therapists to meet the person rather than the defenses and label people with Ptsd or other labels. Thank you for hanging in there for so long and bringing the istdp potential therapy so hopefully this will be the norm!
I listened to a talk on depression and started to feel depressed. Then I turned to talks on Buddhism instead and felt supported and got strong again. Your talk is excellent.
Hi Patricia. Thank you for another amazing video. You mentioned you are following some Journals regularly and was wondering which ones you would recommed for us ISTDP therapists. Thank you
You are a therapist first so keeping abreast of the literature on psychotherapy process and outcome is essential. I am a Psychologist so I get The American Psychology, Monitor on Psychology and subscribe to the journal Psychotherapy and Journal of Consulting and Clinical Psychology. Peruse a number of them and determine which seems best for your own needs.
This important distinction between deficit based lens vs strength based lens is great. It reminds me of a Buddhist psychoanalyst named Dr. Edward Podvall. He introduced and talked about “Islands of Clarity”, a term to describe 5 signs, or “markers of sanity” of a client (opposed to the typical markers of insanity/pathology that are often found in documents such as the DSM). He noted the 5 are: 1. Repulsion 2. Transcendence of the self 3. Discipline 4. Compassion 5. Courage (See Dr. Danielle Knafo’s beautiful explanation of each of these in greater detail - ua-cam.com/video/TitLmvY6tis/v-deo.html , and here ua-cam.com/video/i26yCP0GL2M/v-deo.html )
You are so persuasive and compelling. I love the clear way you explain things. Thank you.
Thanks so much. I appreciate it.
Thanks for reminding us about this important point. I’m going to include it in my practice moving forward! 💐
It's vital. Glad this was a helpful reminder.
Great job!
Hi Patricia, Did Davanloo talk further about the concept of wholeness or define it?
I am not quite sure what you are asking here. He often spoke to the patient of their potential and was ambitious and trying to achieve full resolution of the patient's core neurotic conflict, freeing him to live an authentic life.
@@patriciacoughlinphd1852 thank you, that’s actually answered my question. The full resolution of the core neurotic conflict so that they are free to live an authentic life.
Thanks a lot for your Videos! Which psychological Journals you recommend to read? I live in Germany und I look always hier, but I can't find that good one. Thanks again.
I read the American Psychologist, Psychotherapy: Theory, Research and Practice, and Journal of Consulting and Clinical Psychology. All can be purchased through apa.org
@@patriciacoughlinphd1852 Thank you very much!
Great video Patricia! Thank you so much for this😊 It really contributs to my supervision with psychiatrists
Great Job. I do istdp in Italy
You are incorrect to say masters level clinicians are not up on the research. All licensed clinicians are required to do so.
Of course, it varies person to person but, in my experience, many master's level clinicians have not been trained to conduct and understand research. Good on you for keeping up with the literature.
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