I wish our cameras would tell us what settings are causing certain features to be greyed-out/unusable. Simply telling us that we can't use a feature because of the way the camera is set up is no help at all, you might as well just show a picture of someone giving us the finger.
Fuji especially annoyed me…. There are so many cross-incompatible settings that are also nowhere near each other nor obvious to the user. But then once in a while they DO add a note that this is greyed out for a specific reason, showing that yes, they CAN do that, its just that they gave up after adding the first few….
@@d3xmeister Canon does it as well. It won’t provide a shortcut to that setting(s), but it will tell the user which setting(s) is/are blocking what he intends to change.
What I love about this channel is the way they introduce humour into informative content. It doesn't feel forced and makes video amazingly interesting. Also, the chemistry between you guys is amazing.
As a wildlife photographer my biggest gripe with Sony are all those G series lenses that have a custom function button that you cannot use to set a focus distance recall. How hard is this? Long press to set, short press to recall... fixes 99% of the "stuck on the busy background" focusing issues.
My biggest gripe is the apps! all the camera companies advertise WIFI! and Bluetooth! etc.. but the "free" apps are so unreliable and they never update them until a new camera comes out. just make them open source or something. Do you guys read these comments? Could you do a shoot out with the camera apps and give a zero score to any camera that doesn't connect reliably 10 out of 10 times. and show average people trying to pair phone to camera for the first time etc..
It's crazy how these top of the line machines have to used like they are still in the stone age of taking out the sd card. And now smartphones are getting so good it's already killed point and shoot, dslrs might have a problem if they don't innovate more.
Agreed. I mean, atleast they have WiFi transfer. My 2014 FinePix S9400W has it, but you have to connect AFTER the pics, and then patiently wait for it to transfer.. and it can't transfer its 1080p video.. so I have to take the card out and transfer via my PC.. also, Fuji had a habit of using a unique USB/AV port..
My EOS 250D is a bit better, lets you transfer its 4K 25fps video, and also can transfer pics in the background WHILE you take them, but again, video has to happen after.. and it's basically at limitation of the WiFi speed..
@@LewyKablooe make a bigger body/battery. The cameras are too capable to not be able to see what the cameras are displaying near the quality they are being displayed on bigger screens
it's CRAZY to me how no manufacturer is doing it, and not many people gripe about it. It really would be the best shooting mode: aperture priority all the time, auto ISO, back wheel for min speed. Freeze motion as fast as you wish just like in Manual, but never blowout a photo again if there is a sudden sun streak.
It's irritating how some cameras don't completely split up settings for photo and video. Say I'd want to use wide AF area with face detect in video but in photo I'd want to use a simple pinpoint AF box. I can think of a few cameras that don't save that setting between photo/video modes so I have to switch it manually. I want every setting to be saved per mode (especially per custom setting save mode when a camera has that feature)
I think the worst quirk is when a brand launches a model with faults such as overheating or without basic things like a stabilizer, memory slot, etc. and after a few months they launch an improved version with the letter S or C. All the people who bought the first model, I bet they have that feeling of being scammed with infinite irritation
After two years of frustration with Sony cameras, it was enough to convince me to add Fujifilm X-series cameras back into my camera eco-system for certain features. 1) No in-camera focus bracketing 2) The smallest focusing point is not small enough and requires me to switch to manual focus much faster compared to the Fujifilm cameras (for my Sony system, I switched to manual focus lenses for macro) 3) Only way to have up 1/32000 second is with the stacked sensor cameras 4) Cameras cannot be metered for longer than 30 seconds (Fujifilm gives me 900 seconds)
I double this! Listen Sony! Simple things like this can make you switch brands! It's not all about more megapixels! Lack of these simple things can makes your great camera worthless in certain situations.
No, I'm sorry. But far the worse one is bulb more starting after only 30 seconds on most cameras. It annoys me to no end. How about you go to 30 minutes before you give me the f-ing bulb mode option?!
HLG does not need any real grading. You can even upload it directly to UA-cam. Sony has annoying issue with horizon level in video too. You can either see main stats or horizon level, not both. Why Japanese companies have so horrible and limited software customization? Because of their extremely outdated software testing process, even for biggest companies. Everything 15 years outdated. Everything is done manually and their main testing software is MS Excel. If they need to provide customization for every feature it will require maybe a month for development and half a year for testing.
The horizon level indicators are vastly inadaquate. It indicates green for far to broad a range. Why not have a third color, blue, to indicate a more precise leveling. And make it easier to see on the screen for people shooting from the hip or in high glare conditions. Maybe light up the corners instead of this useless thin line. And Sony, allow the level indicator on the info screens, not just the leveling screen.
THIS. TOTALLY THIS. I'm a Real Estate photographer, I rely every second on the horizon level. When I was in pentax it was a good experience, the green range was very small and a quick check to frame lines on the screen could help mitigate small imperfections. Since I moved to Sony I find myself getting the verticals wrong more often than I'd like because of the horizon's huge range
Love the vid. My "honourable mention" - on mirrorless why can't we specify our own crop ratios and at the least get more than 3:2, 1:1, 16:9. Fuji's GFX and to some extent Canon R allows this then passes on the cropping info in the raw file. Bonus crop ratio gripe - Nikon mirrorless: why tf do you throw out data in the raw file when I choose a crop other than 3:2?!
Yeah this totally! I find 3x2 an awkward ratio for most things, especially in portrait. It would be nice to be able to set up a list of custom preview ratios and get it perfect in the field instead of having to guess and crop later.
I print to A4, A3, etc paper sizes. It is an international standard (with notable exceptions, of course). I would like to see it as an option. I would love a grid display showing 16:9, 3:2, and 1:1.4142 (A4 etc) for the viewfinder on all cameras. (8.5:11 ?) maybe?
I can't figure out this desire for a lock button on the exposure mode dial. I have never even once accidentally moved that dial in decades of shooting. How can you accidentally move a flat dial sitting on top of the camera? I far prefer not having a lock.
That soooo many people ( myself included) have the desire for a lock button must mean something.....? It has only happened to me once and it messed up my shooting trying to figure what was wrong so I missed shots. If not a lock button, perhaps make a dial that is stiffer to turn thus reducing the likelihood of accidentally moving the setting?
Canon seems very reluctant to report aperture on their LCD unless in aperture priority mode. They are far less shy about reporting shutter speed; why is that?
I KNEW the GH6 punch in was soft ! I'm having a hard time focusing sometimes, and compared it to my G9 and its almost night and day, it looks waaaay better on the G9... I thought I was crazy :'( really hope Panasonic fixes that ...
Sony needs built in focus stacking mode. As a landscape photographer I envy Nikon and Canon users that have that, shouldn’t be hard to implement but they just won’t do it for whatever reason.
I shoot Canon, but an older aps-c without focus bracketing. I want to upgrade but the R5 is very very expensive and I’m not sure I need 45mp but I wish the R6 had MORE mp than 20. I’ve strongly considered switching to Fuji but I’d like to go full frame.
I agree the grammar thing on Canon bugs me. There’s other areas of Canon menus where there’s something similar. Is anyone at Canon listening? As for Sony-shocking you can’t process raws in camera. You could do this with Fujifilm from day 1 in 2012.
Here's my 5. Micro HDMI, lack of 2.5k video resolution for no technical reason, Panasonic's contrast af, lack of firmware releases that could easily add new features. Proprietary mounts (there needs to be more shared mounts like the L)
I decided the easier thing is to record a track on a phone or GPS and use a utility later to update the photo metadata from the gpx file. Then any digital camera will do, if it has the correct time stamp. But as with anything technical like this I assume there's some arcane reason that this won't work for everyone.
You're two grown men? Well you do have some nice toys. :) Thanks for a great vid and thanks to DPReview TV for hosting these grown men. That's why I'm *SUBSCRIBED!*
start at the product level. 1. cheap smartphones have 1GB/s read speeds on internal storage, why cant cameras have it and we still fumble with tiny SD cards?! 2. why can't cameras have huge ass smartphone batteries with insane charging speeds and fumble with low capacity batteries?! 3. why can't they have bright large OLED displays?! i could go on, no wonder sales are going down YoY
Fingerprint reader in the shutter button (with a pin code fallback of course) to prevent theft? And if i may, if we're talking about annoying things, am i allowed to mention the audio levels of your videos? Not all the time but dunno, every tenth. And this one for example.
Quickly adjusting minimum shutter speed for auto ISO is actually very possible on Sony cameras. I have the rear wheel configured to change ISO, and a right side press on that wheel (where it says ISO) brings up minimum shutter speed for auto ISO. It's adjustable with one button press on the back of the camera. You're welcome. ;) Sidenote: This capability (and customisability in general) is actually the number one reason why Sony has the best controls in the business in my opinion. Yes, you read that right. :D Sidenote 2: You can also adjust the colour of the autofocus box on the newer Sonys.
My gripe is a missing function - depth of field calculation. The camera has all the info available to do this, why not show it numerically in the display instead of trying to see it visually in the viewfinder/display or having to consult an external app. This would be so useful for flower/insect photos.
Fuji does this, but it's not really that useful. Depth of field is not an abrupt transition from 100% sharp to 100% soft, it's a continuous transition.
A point I'd like to see is great 1080p footage, or 1440p. As much as space is really cheap I don't really need them. A sharp, 10bit 422 1080p footage will be so good and that does not demand a lot of the sensor. Because a lot about video quality is down to colour grading not resolution, I don't need to vlog in sharp 8k anyway.
Agreed about 1080p or 1440p. Camera companies please put more effort into improving this kind of video instead of giving us 8k where there are still too few ways of then watching 8k video for the majority of the world.
I don't have one, so can you explain? Can't you tell by what you see onscreen? Most cameras have the button that moves the aperture to the actual aperture as it will be when the photo is taken. Do you not have that?
I love this video. Is there any chance you could do a viewer poll about the top five annoying things about Chris and Jordan? I'll just throw out pants selection as a possible category.
Sony: add lossless raw Canon: stop crippling video specs AND open RF mount to third parties Nikon: open Z mount to third parties Panasonic: DFD does not work. PFAF does. Fujifilm: x-Trans is just marketing. Quit pretending.
Canon and Nikon both have patents so RF mounts and Z mounts will not be licensed to 3rd party. 1. Sigma is also a Sigma branded Camera maker, is a member of L-mount Alliance and does NOT licence their sensor patents. 2. Sony owns 15% of Tamron.
Minimum shutter speed is at the top of my list. I use and adjust it *constantly*. It's a shooting setting, not a configuration setting. Even a button is too far away; I want to assign it to a command dial (on cameras with three dials).
@@burritobrosvideos8060 I do believe that option has crossed the minds of most people talking about this issue. For most photography I do, I want to use aperture priority with a minimum shutter speed I specify. If I shoot manual, I will end up with the same settings, but more time spent adjusting them. More of my focus will be on settings, distracting me from composition and timing.
@@burritobrosvideos8060 I know how to use both manual with auto ISO and full manual. I am not fast at adjusting the shutter speed as the computer chip in my camera and I never will be, nor do I want to be thinking about it for every shot.
I would love to put min shutter speed on a dial instead having a unassigned ss dial in A mode. also MyDial on sonys is a great start but there is barely anything to choose. like i wannt to change af speed, focus box size, mic level etc, with a dial
Couldn't agree more. My ideal camera would have Fuji style dedicated dials but instead of shutter speed and ISO they would be min shutter speed and exposure comp (with aperture on the lens)
10:05 - The Canon Cripple Hammer wields so much power, it's Canon's way of laughing at you for buying one of their mirrorless cameras for video. Until the scrubs boycott Canon this will keep going on and on.
10 likes for the video, if it was possible, if I may add a couple more: the removal of the panorama mode from many cameras, it's an easy one and almost a dealbreaker for me, and the removal of the built in flash from the "serious" pro cameras....
How about theft deterrent technology on expensive cameras like I have on my not-as-expensive smartphone. I don't think it would be terribly expensive to include.
Let's just say it, camera menu systems and interface haven't come very far in 20+ years. There's so much missed opportunity in these powerful imaging tools, but companies are hamstrung by trying to go this alone rather than under a unified OS (like phones consolidated under android and iOS)
Another minor annoyance, cameras should follow Panasonic when it comes to displaying the exposure value in log video recording. Correct me if I'm wrong but +0ev on a Panasonic V-log is well exposed, whereas on a Fuji or Sony, it needs to be +1.3 or more. Problem is we don't see anything past +2ev so it could well be +2.3 or way more and it's just kinda annoying.
I think the correct exposure for V-Log is to have the midtones at 42 IRE on the waveform monitor, so that can often be above +0ev. Sometimes on my GH6 the best exposure is 2/3 over exposed, or +1 etc.. depending on the scene, to get the correct midtone exposure.
I'd add: - Canon not putting the on/off switch where it should be (around the shutter button) - Sony only letting you change auto ISO min shutter speed in 1-stop increments - Cameras that require you to use the touch screen for certain autofocus functions - Sony wiping some of your custom modes when formatting your cards - Cameras that autofocus in self-timer mode when the shutter button is pressed instead of when the photo is taken
Beyond in-camera raw processing, I am extremely jealous of how much you can tweak in Fujifilm cameras compared to my Canons' basic 'Sharpness, Contrast, Saturation, Color tone"... why is clarity in a different menu??? WTF does color tone do? (it's just tint). Fuji gives you dynamic range adjustments, grain, film sims!, CURVES!!
It sounds like Olym... OM Systems is more like Fuji. So called computational photography is definitely the future, with cell phones leading the way. Flexibility, that leads to capability, as you mentioned, will win out eventually. At some point, someone will come up with a UI that ignores traditional photography terms and it will catch on, inflaming and confusing traditional photographers!
guys, you're by far my f*beep*g favourite photography channel in the YT universe. And a couple of other universes, too. May the force... oops, wrong shortcut! Always two extra photons hitting your sensors...
Very funny (especially the refrigerator notes) and great points! Also, how about camera manufacturers being more up-front in their specs about the eye-point of their viewfinders?
You forgot... How about an intuitive, easy, seamless, real time transfer of jpeg files from your camera to your smart phone. There is no camera manufacturer that has yet to get this right. Many people, like myself, prefer to just use our camera phones these days for that very reason. With the ever increasing quality of smart phone cameras and software, my camera may ultimately end up on the chopping block.
9:06 I used to have a problem with this all the time with Canon EOS M50. I'd set shutter speed to 1/1000s, shoot football for 20min, and then notice that I had accidentally changed it to 1/640s. Outcome: all of those photos are now burned because aperture and ISO were set to non-auto as well. I was really glad to see that Canon EOS R6 had a lock button but then I never ended up using it because for whatever reason I don't accidentally bump the dials anymore. Maybe M50 just taught me to constantly and neurotically check the settings every minute :).
For me it's lack of a small RAW format Sony A1 and large embedded preview jpegs for the RAWS on the A9II. I love the A1 but not every shoot requires full size RAWs. The A9II is an amazing event camera but you can't cull images and check fine focus in Photo Mechanic which is a common workflow for event and sports photographers. I realize it's not an issue for everyone but know several photographers that feel the same. Also it would be nice to have a button to format cards.
The Enable/Disable thing in the Canon menus is indeed maddening. I'm so triggered right now. How about just "ON" and "OFF"? The only thing more irritating about Canons is having to dive into a submenu and enable "High Frame Rate" to get 120 FPS. Why can't they put that on the same screen as all the other video modes?
Why can't camera manufacturers put in their software the same kind of features that we get with our cell phones?... Computational photography that allows for in camera shallow depth of field shots... digital image stabilization... The editing software that Chris mentioned. Why spend thousands of dollars on a camera and lenses when I can spend A thousand dollars on a high end smartphone and get output that will be indistinguishable from a mirrorless in most circumstances, with easier interface, more editing features, and better file transfer features. The tonedeaf nature of the camera industry will result in cameras just becoming the tools of professionals who get paid for and have the patience to deal with all these deficiencies for the sake of getting top quality shots... Which 99% of the public won't appreciate.
What has to be removed completely from any cameras is a PAL/NTSC switch. I'm so much loving the elegant way Nikon did with their Z cameras (you just set the 50/60 Hz zone settings for a flickering light and that's it) but it drives me nuts in Sony cameras. I just want to set any frame rate I want (24, 25, 50,60 etc)
Great video as usual. I thought I was missing something obvious on my Canon 6D Mk2, looking for the level & histogram switching from photo to video... How stupid is this, Canon???...
With Canon, when recording in 4k it has to go to the cf express card. Well when you go and pull the cf express card to put the video onto your computer, if you close the door to your camera before putting the card back in, the camera will revert to the SD card making it impossible to record again until you change your storage settings back to the cf express. Couldn't it just give you an warning but keep the same settings?
For the follow-up video (or the FujiFilm camera; The good and the bad) don't forget to mention the TERRIBLE camera remote app. Fujifilm can't forget that they still haven't updated this pile of garbage
1. I want to see compact professional cameras which are have not a big heawy body but give great quality аnd which you can take anywhere with you (Like LX100) with interchangeable optics. Pros can't carry a large camera with them all the time, but the phone is not interesting for them. 2. let the camera companies give a couple of models in an interesting beautiful body (like Nikon ZFc etc), not a black standard box body. 3. Customize the buttons as I want. 4. Breaketing in camera processing after shoting . 5. Give us nice preset in cameras for raw. Instead of sitting all the time correcting colors, maybe as paid update.
What you complain about in the OM-1 is also present in all Canon cameras except the R5 C - you want 10-bit, you have to switch Canon Log or HDR PQ on. OM System at least makes it clear, with Canon you find out whether your footage is 10-bit or 8-bit when you open it in your NLE at home...
You guys should think about designing your own 'ideal' camera... In the age of 3D printing, AI, turn key manufacturing It should be possible to order a camera from a company and select the options you want, like at a car dealer, or custom computer dealer. Personally I want 3 wheels to set aperture, shutter, iso. I want to camera to work without menu diving in all situations. In video mode I want a screen menu where I can adjust Ap, sh, ISO without clicking sounds. Anyway enough to make a series out of this.
EU rule states that any digital still camera with a resolution higher than 800x600 and the duration of video of 30 minutes of more (at 23 fps or higher) must now be classified as a 'video camera recorder' and hence be taxed at a higher rate. To remove the 29:59min limit, the rear display cannot record or display at higher than 800x600 (=1.04Million dots at 16:9 aspect ratio).
The problem is that fixing these issues won't affect the spec sheet or even a small percentage of buying decisions, so it's at the absolute bottom of the priority list.
I want a camera with an Alexa type voice. then all I gotta do is talk to it for settings, and it talks back to me. a SMART camera. i'm irritated the tech is there, but camera makers say NO WAY>
Panny GH6 w/ Firmware 2.0 in Sept '22 Gripes (so far): -Cannot lock shutter speed (still) -Vector Scopes display are *still* omitted from external monitor display, while the other metrics do appear. Why is this important even if you have an external display? Because you can actually *position* the vector scope on the GH screen to your liking!) - NO BATTERY GRIP OPTION WTF!!! 🤬 (A series first! Fire that birdbrain engineer who sold this port delete!!!) -Tedious Codec menu navigation when Dynamic Range Boost is on/off (certain codecs not available w/ no easy DRB turn-off option from within context menu (example fix: "Codec not available while Dynamic Range Boost is activated, would you like to it disable now?") -With Ronin S2-- Entire top row of camera metrics vanish from external display when you plug in USB-C Control Cable (for Ronin record/focus button use) while also using Atomos Shinobi (WTF!!!) Unplugging Camera Control cable while still using HDMI makes the metrics reappear on external display, but at the loss of rec/autofocus function from Ronin S2 handle 🤬 -The entire relationship between using the Atomos Shinobi on-screen video tools and the fact you *still* *cannot* custom-position the Shinobi vector scopes around the screen to your liking forces the scopes to cover up important f-stop/shutter info at the bottom of display. Why in TF can't a user arrange touch screen graphics to the precise place of their choosing for the benefit of their instruments remains a 2022 mind-blower, with the gd Shinobi eternally stuck at software V10.11. This is to say nothing of the utterly unresponsive Shinobi touch screen display-cycling ("Do you want your scope here, here, or here? Touch like mad and maybe something will switch to 1 of 3 poorly thought out screen positions!") Certainly, a vast range of quality of life bug fixes still need to roll out for the GH6, and I pray to the old gods and the new that GH6 matures quickly and tightly. Grumble.
Yes, AutoISO minimum shutterspeed not directly accessible , biggest quirk with Canon. Or, Canon, give us a Safety Shift for Manual and AutoISO that maintains correct exposure by adjusting shutterspeed when you risk overexposure because going past 100 ISO.
Hi, Chris and Jordan, I´m from Germany and first THANK´S a lot for your informative and entertaining videos. Well, that´s a funny thing with Canon´s "enable" and "disable". When you choose German language in the Menu, we in Deutschland don´t have this problem. Canon writes the verb and you have to klick, then it the action will happen. In English they write the verb, but mean the article. That´s really crazy. So I think, you better learn Deutsch and put the Menu into "German", :)). What I don´t understand: There are millions of English and American users, but you can´t make Canon to change this. My best wishes and stay healthy.
Yes very good what other things could you highlight...if camera makes don't get their act together ..the market will be so small...sony phone has the worst software and very expensive..i bought one and can't use it..the A7 r3 is good but not for daily use rx100 mk7 is good .but .the zv1 screen is crippled..dark..rx0 amazing..sold my fuji gear..tried to leave sony..kept an xt one 23mm f1 4 & zoom..gets quite dusty..if leica join one plus the cameras dead..except for pro work of course...
Purposefully not creating the perfect combination of features in a single camera, or lens, just to annoy me. Enough already, it just feels like you are bullying me now and laughing at me. One of the latest examples: “Hey guys, we’re releasing the OM Systems 20mm 1.2 Pro” OMG! Finally the perfect lens to replace the Panasonic 20mm f/1.7! “Oh, one more thing [giggles], even though it’s a Pro series lens … we didn’t put the manual focus clutch on it!” Why? Why do they always do this?
I wish our cameras would tell us what settings are causing certain features to be greyed-out/unusable. Simply telling us that we can't use a feature because of the way the camera is set up is no help at all, you might as well just show a picture of someone giving us the finger.
100 percent agreed. Would save several minutes of googling every time.
isn't that what the zebra lines show? overexposure
Fuji especially annoyed me…. There are so many cross-incompatible settings that are also nowhere near each other nor obvious to the user. But then once in a while they DO add a note that this is greyed out for a specific reason, showing that yes, they CAN do that, its just that they gave up after adding the first few….
I think Olympus does that, and some Sony’s also.
@@d3xmeister Canon does it as well. It won’t provide a shortcut to that setting(s), but it will tell the user which setting(s) is/are blocking what he intends to change.
What I love about this channel is the way they introduce humour into informative content. It doesn't feel forced and makes video amazingly interesting. Also, the chemistry between you guys is amazing.
"If I'm in the rainforest and my autofocus box goes green I'm f***ed." - 10:40
Best quote of 2022 so far 😂😂
As a wildlife photographer my biggest gripe with Sony are all those G series lenses that have a custom function button that you cannot use to set a focus distance recall. How hard is this? Long press to set, short press to recall... fixes 99% of the "stuck on the busy background" focusing issues.
I'll second this.
great idea!
Is a shame more primitive and older cameras like my Panasonic G9 have the option to program buttons for close and long distances focus
I too found this option in G9 (my son's) a great help. Mapped some buttons to do Near/Far AF focus
I spent an hour searching for this exact function that doesn't exist on Sony. It's a shame because the camera is otherwise extremely customizable.
“Selfish lover” 👀 Chris and Jordan shippers gonna have a field day with this one.
My biggest gripe is the apps! all the camera companies advertise WIFI! and Bluetooth! etc.. but the "free" apps are so unreliable and they never update them until a new camera comes out. just make them open source or something.
Do you guys read these comments? Could you do a shoot out with the camera apps and give a zero score to any camera that doesn't connect reliably 10 out of 10 times. and show average people trying to pair phone to camera for the first time etc..
It's crazy how these top of the line machines have to used like they are still in the stone age of taking out the sd card. And now smartphones are getting so good it's already killed point and shoot, dslrs might have a problem if they don't innovate more.
Agreed.
I mean, atleast they have WiFi transfer. My 2014 FinePix S9400W has it, but you have to connect AFTER the pics, and then patiently wait for it to transfer.. and it can't transfer its 1080p video.. so I have to take the card out and transfer via my PC.. also, Fuji had a habit of using a unique USB/AV port..
My EOS 250D is a bit better, lets you transfer its 4K 25fps video, and also can transfer pics in the background WHILE you take them, but again, video has to happen after.. and it's basically at limitation of the WiFi speed..
The very worst quirk is Sony making 4k TV and phone screens but putting original gameboy screens on their $2-6k cameras…..that shoot 4k🥴
screens drain battery life the most so that is probably why
@@LewyKablooe make a bigger body/battery.
The cameras are too capable to not be able to see what the cameras are displaying near the quality they are being displayed on bigger screens
@@RockyMaiviaMiami " make a bigger body/battery. "
No thanks.
I wholeheartedly vote for that quick minimum shutter speed in auto iso. I need that all the time!
On my a7iv at least you can set it to a button (but unfortunately not to one of the many dials!)
@@sjc9832 I just checked on my om-1 and couldn’t find something equivalent. Om system, if you’re listening… :)
it's CRAZY to me how no manufacturer is doing it, and not many people gripe about it. It really would be the best shooting mode: aperture priority all the time, auto ISO, back wheel for min speed. Freeze motion as fast as you wish just like in Manual, but never blowout a photo again if there is a sudden sun streak.
@@beetrootize sony does it
It's irritating how some cameras don't completely split up settings for photo and video. Say I'd want to use wide AF area with face detect in video but in photo I'd want to use a simple pinpoint AF box. I can think of a few cameras that don't save that setting between photo/video modes so I have to switch it manually. I want every setting to be saved per mode (especially per custom setting save mode when a camera has that feature)
I think the worst quirk is when a brand launches a model with faults such as overheating or without basic things like a stabilizer, memory slot, etc. and after a few months they launch an improved version with the letter S or C. All the people who bought the first model, I bet they have that feeling of being scammed with infinite irritation
After two years of frustration with Sony cameras, it was enough to convince me to add Fujifilm X-series cameras back into my camera eco-system for certain features.
1) No in-camera focus bracketing
2) The smallest focusing point is not small enough and requires me to switch to manual focus much faster compared to the Fujifilm cameras (for my Sony system, I switched to manual focus lenses for macro)
3) Only way to have up 1/32000 second is with the stacked sensor cameras
4) Cameras cannot be metered for longer than 30 seconds (Fujifilm gives me 900 seconds)
The lack of focus bracketing is a dealbreaker for me.
I double this! Listen Sony! Simple things like this can make you switch brands! It's not all about more megapixels! Lack of these simple things can makes your great camera worthless in certain situations.
Just wondering: why do you need 1/32000 sec for micro?
@@s87343jim My list is not limited to just micro. :)
No, I'm sorry. But far the worse one is bulb more starting after only 30 seconds on most cameras. It annoys me to no end. How about you go to 30 minutes before you give me the f-ing bulb mode option?!
GRAMMATICAL: CANON please learn how to use PAST TENSE!!! As in the word "enabled" and "not enabled"!!!!!
Autofocus square should automatically adjust to be the opposite of the display.
HLG does not need any real grading. You can even upload it directly to UA-cam.
Sony has annoying issue with horizon level in video too. You can either see main stats or horizon level, not both.
Why Japanese companies have so horrible and limited software customization? Because of their extremely outdated software testing process, even for biggest companies. Everything 15 years outdated. Everything is done manually and their main testing software is MS Excel. If they need to provide customization for every feature it will require maybe a month for development and half a year for testing.
The horizon level indicators are vastly inadaquate. It indicates green for far to broad a range. Why not have a third color, blue, to indicate a more precise leveling. And make it easier to see on the screen for people shooting from the hip or in high glare conditions. Maybe light up the corners instead of this useless thin line. And Sony, allow the level indicator on the info screens, not just the leveling screen.
THIS. TOTALLY THIS. I'm a Real Estate photographer, I rely every second on the horizon level. When I was in pentax it was a good experience, the green range was very small and a quick check to frame lines on the screen could help mitigate small imperfections. Since I moved to Sony I find myself getting the verticals wrong more often than I'd like because of the horizon's huge range
Also in some cameras the level is way to large and you can‘t see s#!t when it‘s enabled (looking at you Z6)
This is my adult version of Saturday morning cartoons.
I feel the same
Love the vid. My "honourable mention" - on mirrorless why can't we specify our own crop ratios and at the least get more than 3:2, 1:1, 16:9. Fuji's GFX and to some extent Canon R allows this then passes on the cropping info in the raw file. Bonus crop ratio gripe - Nikon mirrorless: why tf do you throw out data in the raw file when I choose a crop other than 3:2?!
Yes, I don't understand why we can have more crop options too.
Yeah this totally! I find 3x2 an awkward ratio for most things, especially in portrait. It would be nice to be able to set up a list of custom preview ratios and get it perfect in the field instead of having to guess and crop later.
I print to A4, A3, etc paper sizes. It is an international standard (with notable exceptions, of course). I would like to see it as an option. I would love a grid display showing 16:9, 3:2, and 1:1.4142 (A4 etc) for the viewfinder on all cameras. (8.5:11 ?) maybe?
Amen to that, that's ridiculous, that camera brands are not offering more apect ratios.
I can't figure out this desire for a lock button on the exposure mode dial. I have never even once accidentally moved that dial in decades of shooting. How can you accidentally move a flat dial sitting on top of the camera? I far prefer not having a lock.
That soooo many people ( myself included) have the desire for a lock button must mean something.....? It has only happened to me once and it messed up my shooting trying to figure what was wrong so I missed shots. If not a lock button, perhaps make a dial that is stiffer to turn thus reducing the likelihood of accidentally moving the setting?
This duo is just absolutely amazing. It doesn't get any better than this!
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Canon seems very reluctant to report aperture on their LCD unless in aperture priority mode.
They are far less shy about reporting shutter speed; why is that?
Lack of customisation in "custom" functions. Let me freakin' select ANY function to add to a button
I KNEW the GH6 punch in was soft ! I'm having a hard time focusing sometimes, and compared it to my G9 and its almost night and day, it looks waaaay better on the G9... I thought I was crazy :'( really hope Panasonic fixes that ...
Sony needs built in focus stacking mode. As a landscape photographer I envy Nikon and Canon users that have that, shouldn’t be hard to implement but they just won’t do it for whatever reason.
Yup. I will not buy a Sony camera for this reason.
Use Fuji
I shoot Canon, but an older aps-c without focus bracketing. I want to upgrade but the R5 is very very expensive and I’m not sure I need 45mp but I wish the R6 had MORE mp than 20. I’ve strongly considered switching to Fuji but I’d like to go full frame.
I agree the grammar thing on Canon bugs me. There’s other areas of Canon menus where there’s something similar. Is anyone at Canon listening?
As for Sony-shocking you can’t process raws in camera. You could do this with Fujifilm from day 1 in 2012.
amen why can I NOT see my horizon level when recording on Canon!! It's so annoying
Here's my 5. Micro HDMI, lack of 2.5k video resolution for no technical reason, Panasonic's contrast af, lack of firmware releases that could easily add new features. Proprietary mounts (there needs to be more shared mounts like the L)
I think the autofocus gripe is not "minor" enough for this topic.
I want you guys to know how much I like you guys. A lot. I like you guys and your videos a lot.
That dutch angle shot on Jordan is doing a good job of making him seem insane
Seem?
For me is the lack of built in GPS. Doing nature or travel photography I would like to know where the picture was taken without pairing my phone.
I decided the easier thing is to record a track on a phone or GPS and use a utility later to update the photo metadata from the gpx file. Then any digital camera will do, if it has the correct time stamp. But as with anything technical like this I assume there's some arcane reason that this won't work for everyone.
worst camera quirk -- they cost too much
"I just actually scratch the letter d lower case right behind where it is on the LCD screen itself problem fixed" 😂 lol
You're two grown men? Well you do have some nice toys. :) Thanks for a great vid and thanks to DPReview TV for hosting these grown men. That's why I'm *SUBSCRIBED!*
totally agree on lockable mode button, especially if the edge of the mode wheel sticks out beyond the body of the camera
start at the product level. 1. cheap smartphones have 1GB/s read speeds on internal storage, why cant cameras have it and we still fumble with tiny SD cards?! 2. why can't cameras have huge ass smartphone batteries with insane charging speeds and fumble with low capacity batteries?! 3. why can't they have bright large OLED displays?! i could go on, no wonder sales are going down YoY
Fingerprint reader in the shutter button (with a pin code fallback of course) to prevent theft?
And if i may, if we're talking about annoying things, am i allowed to mention the audio levels of your videos? Not all the time but dunno, every tenth. And this one for example.
Quickly adjusting minimum shutter speed for auto ISO is actually very possible on Sony cameras. I have the rear wheel configured to change ISO, and a right side press on that wheel (where it says ISO) brings up minimum shutter speed for auto ISO. It's adjustable with one button press on the back of the camera. You're welcome. ;)
Sidenote: This capability (and customisability in general) is actually the number one reason why Sony has the best controls in the business in my opinion. Yes, you read that right. :D
Sidenote 2: You can also adjust the colour of the autofocus box on the newer Sonys.
My gripe is a missing function - depth of field calculation. The camera has all the info available to do this, why not show it numerically in the display instead of trying to see it visually in the viewfinder/display or having to consult an external app. This would be so useful for flower/insect photos.
I think Fuji shows it in the on-screen focus scale.
Fuji does this, but it's not really that useful. Depth of field is not an abrupt transition from 100% sharp to 100% soft, it's a continuous transition.
I think old Canon P&S cameras had this.
Use an OLD model Canon DSLR or EOS M and load Magic Lantern
A point I'd like to see is great 1080p footage, or 1440p. As much as space is really cheap I don't really need them. A sharp, 10bit 422 1080p footage will be so good and that does not demand a lot of the sensor. Because a lot about video quality is down to colour grading not resolution, I don't need to vlog in sharp 8k anyway.
Agreed about 1080p or 1440p. Camera companies please put more effort into improving this kind of video instead of giving us 8k where there are still too few ways of then watching 8k video for the majority of the world.
That Canon R5 and R6 do not show realtime DOF changes when adjusting aperture....come on Canon it's a freaking mirrorless!
I don't have one, so can you explain? Can't you tell by what you see onscreen? Most cameras have the button that moves the aperture to the actual aperture as it will be when the photo is taken. Do you not have that?
Waveform monitoring in photo mode, in all cameras, now! :)
You guys are great! I've been following you since your Camera Store days and bought my D850 from Chris.Glad to see you guys doing well with DP Review!
Losing histogram and horizon after hitting REC on Canon is SO ANNOYING.
“Sometime things change in a shot, that’s the amazing thing about video” 😹
The official apps that go with most camera manufacturers are bad and need a lot of work
You guys, you complain and xxxxxx about stuff and it’s still fun to watch !!
I love this video. Is there any chance you could do a viewer poll about the top five annoying things about Chris and Jordan? I'll just throw out pants selection as a possible category.
Sony: add lossless raw
Canon: stop crippling video specs AND open RF mount to third parties
Nikon: open Z mount to third parties
Panasonic: DFD does not work. PFAF does.
Fujifilm: x-Trans is just marketing. Quit pretending.
Canon and Nikon both have patents so RF mounts and Z mounts will not be licensed to 3rd party.
1. Sigma is also a Sigma branded Camera maker, is a member of L-mount Alliance and does NOT licence their sensor patents.
2. Sony owns 15% of Tamron.
Why do I need to set subject to detect at all??? Why is my camera so dumb that I need to change a damn setting to shoot a dog and then a human???
Chris’s grin after the cold open made my day! Yall seem like great friends and It would be a lot of fun to shoot with yall!
So much fun, love these style videos!
Minimum shutter speed is at the top of my list. I use and adjust it *constantly*. It's a shooting setting, not a configuration setting. Even a button is too far away; I want to assign it to a command dial (on cameras with three dials).
Shoot manual?
@@burritobrosvideos8060 I do believe that option has crossed the minds of most people talking about this issue. For most photography I do, I want to use aperture priority with a minimum shutter speed I specify. If I shoot manual, I will end up with the same settings, but more time spent adjusting them. More of my focus will be on settings, distracting me from composition and timing.
@@ZakWilson you only need to put shutter speed on one dial and leave iso auto with parameters. Its really easy
@@burritobrosvideos8060 I know how to use both manual with auto ISO and full manual. I am not fast at adjusting the shutter speed as the computer chip in my camera and I never will be, nor do I want to be thinking about it for every shot.
@@ZakWilson we get it, you're slow. This feature isn't going to be in cameras in you're lifetime so you better get used to it grandpa.
Why do I have to go into bulk mode for long exposures? Can a camera only count to 30 seconds?
The new Nikon cameras have upto 900sec.
Same reaction here... Trips me all the time. Guess it's a legacy thing, but for folks wo that legacy they indeed should let the count go past 30.
For those confused... bulb mode, not bulk.
I just wanna use the level and histogram simultaneously while shooting stills on my a7r3 😢
I would love to put min shutter speed on a dial instead having a unassigned ss dial in A mode. also MyDial on sonys is a great start but there is barely anything to choose. like i wannt to change af speed, focus box size, mic level etc, with a dial
Couldn't agree more. My ideal camera would have Fuji style dedicated dials but instead of shutter speed and ISO they would be min shutter speed and exposure comp (with aperture on the lens)
10:05 - The Canon Cripple Hammer wields so much power, it's Canon's way of laughing at you for buying one of their mirrorless cameras for video. Until the scrubs boycott Canon this will keep going on and on.
The horizon level issue on Canon is why I don't already own a R5 or at least R6... or heck, I may have gotten a C200 even a few years back.
10 likes for the video, if it was possible, if I may add a couple more: the removal of the panorama mode from many cameras, it's an easy one and almost a dealbreaker for me, and the removal of the built in flash from the "serious" pro cameras....
How about theft deterrent technology on expensive cameras like I have on my not-as-expensive smartphone. I don't think it would be terribly expensive to include.
Exactly! An option to have to type s four digit code on screen before continuing like on a phone would go a long way!
Let's just say it, camera menu systems and interface haven't come very far in 20+ years. There's so much missed opportunity in these powerful imaging tools, but companies are hamstrung by trying to go this alone rather than under a unified OS (like phones consolidated under android and iOS)
Like I've said in my comment - those UIs feel like inbuilt car infotainments vs Apple Carplay.
You guys are fun.
I think Canon do the same thing with the R7 and R6, no 10bit in Rec709 profile
"Liked Drive My Car" lol that must've stung Jordan deeply
Dude locking the shutter would be so freaking helpful. Or just give me the option to constantly keep it at 180°.
Polite whining, must be Canadians, Eh
Another minor annoyance, cameras should follow Panasonic when it comes to displaying the exposure value in log video recording. Correct me if I'm wrong but +0ev on a Panasonic V-log is well exposed, whereas on a Fuji or Sony, it needs to be +1.3 or more. Problem is we don't see anything past +2ev so it could well be +2.3 or way more and it's just kinda annoying.
I think the correct exposure for V-Log is to have the midtones at 42 IRE on the waveform monitor, so that can often be above +0ev. Sometimes on my GH6 the best exposure is 2/3 over exposed, or +1 etc.. depending on the scene, to get the correct midtone exposure.
I'd add:
- Canon not putting the on/off switch where it should be (around the shutter button)
- Sony only letting you change auto ISO min shutter speed in 1-stop increments
- Cameras that require you to use the touch screen for certain autofocus functions
- Sony wiping some of your custom modes when formatting your cards
- Cameras that autofocus in self-timer mode when the shutter button is pressed instead of when the photo is taken
Beyond in-camera raw processing, I am extremely jealous of how much you can tweak in Fujifilm cameras compared to my Canons' basic 'Sharpness, Contrast, Saturation, Color tone"... why is clarity in a different menu??? WTF does color tone do? (it's just tint). Fuji gives you dynamic range adjustments, grain, film sims!, CURVES!!
It sounds like Olym... OM Systems is more like Fuji. So called computational photography is definitely the future, with cell phones leading the way. Flexibility, that leads to capability, as you mentioned, will win out eventually. At some point, someone will come up with a UI that ignores traditional photography terms and it will catch on, inflaming and confusing traditional photographers!
This really, really needed to open with not just Jordan but also Chris in a fetal position, lol.
guys, you're by far my f*beep*g favourite photography channel in the YT universe. And a couple of other universes, too. May the force... oops, wrong shortcut! Always two extra photons hitting your sensors...
“…this video of grown men whining…” 🤩
Well, I guess, that's why I'm happy with Panasonic. Barely any of those problems concern me. 🌻
Very funny (especially the refrigerator notes) and great points! Also, how about camera manufacturers being more up-front in their specs about the eye-point of their viewfinders?
You forgot... How about an intuitive, easy, seamless, real time transfer of jpeg files from your camera to your smart phone. There is no camera manufacturer that has yet to get this right. Many people, like myself, prefer to just use our camera phones these days for that very reason. With the ever increasing quality of smart phone cameras and software, my camera may ultimately end up on the chopping block.
9:06 I used to have a problem with this all the time with Canon EOS M50. I'd set shutter speed to 1/1000s, shoot football for 20min, and then notice that I had accidentally changed it to 1/640s. Outcome: all of those photos are now burned because aperture and ISO were set to non-auto as well. I was really glad to see that Canon EOS R6 had a lock button but then I never ended up using it because for whatever reason I don't accidentally bump the dials anymore. Maybe M50 just taught me to constantly and neurotically check the settings every minute :).
For me it's lack of a small RAW format Sony A1 and large embedded preview jpegs for the RAWS on the A9II. I love the A1 but not every shoot requires full size RAWs. The A9II is an amazing event camera but you can't cull images and check fine focus in Photo Mechanic which is a common workflow for event and sports photographers. I realize it's not an issue for everyone but know several photographers that feel the same. Also it would be nice to have a button to format cards.
The Enable/Disable thing in the Canon menus is indeed maddening. I'm so triggered right now. How about just "ON" and "OFF"? The only thing more irritating about Canons is having to dive into a submenu and enable "High Frame Rate" to get 120 FPS. Why can't they put that on the same screen as all the other video modes?
Please do more, I love it 🤣.
The lens cleaning sketch video gave me nightmares for weeks.
10:08 knew this one was coming. 😆
Why can't camera manufacturers put in their software the same kind of features that we get with our cell phones?... Computational photography that allows for in camera shallow depth of field shots... digital image stabilization... The editing software that Chris mentioned.
Why spend thousands of dollars on a camera and lenses when I can spend A thousand dollars on a high end smartphone and get output that will be indistinguishable from a mirrorless in most circumstances, with easier interface, more editing features, and better file transfer features.
The tonedeaf nature of the camera industry will result in cameras just becoming the tools of professionals who get paid for and have the patience to deal with all these deficiencies for the sake of getting top quality shots... Which 99% of the public won't appreciate.
What has to be removed completely from any cameras is a PAL/NTSC switch. I'm so much loving the elegant way Nikon did with their Z cameras (you just set the 50/60 Hz zone settings for a flickering light and that's it) but it drives me nuts in Sony cameras. I just want to set any frame rate I want (24, 25, 50,60 etc)
Great video as usual.
I thought I was missing something obvious on my Canon 6D Mk2, looking for the level & histogram switching from photo to video...
How stupid is this, Canon???...
The biggest quirk I noticed on the Q2 Monochrome when I tested it at the Leica store was the price.
With Canon, when recording in 4k it has to go to the cf express card. Well when you go and pull the cf express card to put the video onto your computer, if you close the door to your camera before putting the card back in, the camera will revert to the SD card making it impossible to record again until you change your storage settings back to the cf express. Couldn't it just give you an warning but keep the same settings?
Thanks, great video. Most annoying thing amongst all camera manufacturers: give us good anti-theft measures for our equipment!
For the follow-up video (or the FujiFilm camera; The good and the bad) don't forget to mention the TERRIBLE camera remote app. Fujifilm can't forget that they still haven't updated this pile of garbage
1. I want to see compact professional cameras which are have not a big heawy body but give great quality аnd which you can take anywhere with you (Like LX100) with interchangeable optics. Pros can't carry a large camera with them all the time, but the phone is not interesting for them.
2. let the camera companies give a couple of models in an interesting beautiful body (like Nikon ZFc etc), not a black standard box body.
3. Customize the buttons as I want.
4. Breaketing in camera processing after shoting .
5. Give us nice preset in cameras for raw. Instead of sitting all the time correcting colors, maybe as paid update.
What you complain about in the OM-1 is also present in all Canon cameras except the R5 C - you want 10-bit, you have to switch Canon Log or HDR PQ on. OM System at least makes it clear, with Canon you find out whether your footage is 10-bit or 8-bit when you open it in your NLE at home...
My gripe with the Sony a7riv is that they have 2 different lock system for the dials on top.... like whyyyyyy
You guys should think about designing your own 'ideal' camera...
In the age of 3D printing, AI, turn key manufacturing It should be possible to order a camera from a company and select the options you want, like at a car dealer, or custom computer dealer.
Personally I want 3 wheels to set aperture, shutter, iso. I want to camera to work without menu diving in all situations. In video mode I want a screen menu where I can adjust Ap, sh, ISO without clicking sounds. Anyway enough to make a series out of this.
Do you think Canon will remove the 29:59min limit from the R5/R6, now that the R7 doesn't even have that limit?
Doubt it. Just like how they abandoned us EOS R users now. Canon hates to give more value to cameras that already sold.
EU rule states that any digital still camera with a resolution higher than 800x600 and the duration of video of 30 minutes of more (at 23 fps or higher) must now be classified as a 'video camera recorder' and hence be taxed at a higher rate.
To remove the 29:59min limit, the rear display cannot record or display at higher than 800x600 (=1.04Million dots at 16:9 aspect ratio).
As an old dude with sensitive ears, I really appreciate the beeps! Thanks.
The problem is that fixing these issues won't affect the spec sheet or even a small percentage of buying decisions, so it's at the absolute bottom of the priority list.
Great and funny video. I would like to see the ability to bracket ISO in Canon cameras. Especially retro fitted to my 5D mk iv.
I want a camera with an Alexa type voice. then all I gotta do is talk to it for settings, and it talks back to me. a SMART camera. i'm irritated the tech is there, but camera makers say NO WAY>
Panny GH6 w/ Firmware 2.0 in Sept '22 Gripes (so far):
-Cannot lock shutter speed (still)
-Vector Scopes display are *still* omitted from external monitor display, while the other metrics do appear. Why is this important even if you have an external display? Because you can actually *position* the vector scope on the GH screen to your liking!)
- NO BATTERY GRIP OPTION WTF!!! 🤬 (A series first! Fire that birdbrain engineer who sold this port delete!!!)
-Tedious Codec menu navigation when Dynamic Range Boost is on/off (certain codecs not available w/ no easy DRB turn-off option from within context menu (example fix: "Codec not available while Dynamic Range Boost is activated, would you like to it disable now?")
-With Ronin S2-- Entire top row of camera metrics vanish from external display when you plug in USB-C Control Cable (for Ronin record/focus button use) while also using Atomos Shinobi (WTF!!!) Unplugging Camera Control cable while still using HDMI makes the metrics reappear on external display, but at the loss of rec/autofocus function from Ronin S2 handle 🤬
-The entire relationship between using the Atomos Shinobi on-screen video tools and the fact you *still* *cannot* custom-position the Shinobi vector scopes around the screen to your liking forces the scopes to cover up important f-stop/shutter info at the bottom of display. Why in TF can't a user arrange touch screen graphics to the precise place of their choosing for the benefit of their instruments remains a 2022 mind-blower, with the gd Shinobi eternally stuck at software V10.11. This is to say nothing of the utterly unresponsive Shinobi touch screen display-cycling ("Do you want your scope here, here, or here? Touch like mad and maybe something will switch to 1 of 3 poorly thought out screen positions!")
Certainly, a vast range of quality of life bug fixes still need to roll out for the GH6, and I pray to the old gods and the new that GH6 matures quickly and tightly. Grumble.
Yes, AutoISO minimum shutterspeed not directly accessible , biggest quirk with Canon. Or, Canon, give us a Safety Shift for Manual and AutoISO that maintains correct exposure by adjusting shutterspeed when you risk overexposure because going past 100 ISO.
Hi, Chris and Jordan, I´m from Germany and first THANK´S a lot for your informative and entertaining videos. Well, that´s a funny thing with Canon´s "enable" and "disable". When you choose German language in the Menu, we in Deutschland don´t have this problem.
Canon writes the verb and you have to klick, then it the action will happen. In English they write the verb, but mean the article. That´s really crazy. So I think, you better learn Deutsch and put the Menu into "German", :)).
What I don´t understand: There are millions of English and American users, but you can´t make Canon to change this.
My best wishes and stay healthy.
Yes very good what other things could you highlight...if camera makes don't get their act together ..the market will be so small...sony phone has the worst software and very expensive..i bought one and can't use it..the A7 r3 is good but not for daily use rx100 mk7 is good .but .the zv1 screen is crippled..dark..rx0 amazing..sold my fuji gear..tried to leave sony..kept an xt one 23mm f1 4 & zoom..gets quite dusty..if leica join one plus the cameras dead..except for pro work of course...
Purposefully not creating the perfect combination of features in a single camera, or lens, just to annoy me. Enough already, it just feels like you are bullying me now and laughing at me.
One of the latest examples: “Hey guys, we’re releasing the OM Systems 20mm 1.2 Pro”
OMG! Finally the perfect lens to replace the Panasonic 20mm f/1.7!
“Oh, one more thing [giggles], even though it’s a Pro series lens … we didn’t put the manual focus clutch on it!”
Why? Why do they always do this?